just keep it but also put it at the service of the swiss economy, but it wasn’t their money, they took advantage of this situation, it doesn’t look very nice, the porter knows very well that it wasn’t simplified very well. yes, you didn’t start any payments there, looking for relatives, some payments from the state of israel, but this is the feeling of it that this is not exactly neutrality, the aftertaste has remained and the swiss, who are proud of their democracy and their traditions, do not want to be such a nation, that's why, say, the president of switzerland said in his current term there ends due to the content of the cassis sign, when the war started, it was a clear form, but neutrality does not mean indifference, this is a revolutionary formula for switzerland, that is why they introduced all the sanctions introduced by the european union, they do not supply weapons, but sanctions against russia, which of course, are the sanctions introduced by switzerland - sometimes more a disaster for many serious people, so-called between all the sanctions of the european union and great britain, because

all the money is there, because you hope that this money is in switzerland they will definitely be untouchable, but here it turns out that switzerland is not ready to play this game with you, so there is nothing left but to keep the money somewhere, relatively speaking, in turkey or the united arab emirates. the risk is not the swiss bankers , that is, at some point they will issue a decree and goodbye. therefore, the russians are very angry with the swiss, so they clearly told them that you are no longer a neutral country, so by the way, this is the problem of the red cross and it somehow tries to maneuver like that, but this the problems are precisely related to the other role of switzerland. i think it is correct, it is said again. it is this phrase that neutrality is not indifference. it was 880 years ago that when the concept of evil became more obvious and comprehensible that is why there are still

countries in which they cannot take their own democratic traditions so seriously, for which the question of reputation looks different turkey is such a country you said that the vatican can no longer be a place negotiations, let's remember that this week there was a scandal with the pope, who said that the cruelty of the russian army is not inherent, they say that it is the mercenaries who remain cruel to the russian people, he said yes, you understand here again, there are many different components, first of all, i again, just as i am not fascinated by president erdogan, i am not fascinated by the french pope. i keep reminding you that these are not european popes. we think that this is the pope who has always been the pope. well , there have not been any other popes and this is the same pope. like the previous pope benedict or like pope john paul ii from the same group not from the same here he is of

course he is a person of ethnic italian origin there but you understand that it is not ethnic origin that determines i would say a person's options and positions development is not a question of origin this is a question places where civilization is found, the pope is really argentinian well, of course, he speaks italian very well, his native language is always spanish , he speaks better, not worse, but he was born in argentina, grew up in argentina, this is a different civilization, this is not europe, if we look at how the latin american countries are reacting to this war, their politicians, their public figures, many people will reveal to him some kind of scumbag, i am. by the way, just when i started thinking about it, i started reading the chain from time to time. well, it is absolutely obvious that it looks different there than in europe, they treat it more neutrally for them, russia remains to some extent allies in the fight against imperialism

, especially when it comes to some livingston american government, they do not really understand the differences these civilizational boundaries between russia and ukraine, if many europeans understand them for argentina. in general, it is a very distant world for the argentinian elite, in general, it is all a struggle in this old europe. where are some players who are not very interesting and not very close to them playing? for him, this conflict is not a conflict of his own essence, he looks at it precisely as a latin american of latin americans, he is absolutely sure that he should at least maintain neutrality when it comes to the conflict, the people may deserve the pontiff is still such a dove of peace, the pope of rome has always been considered, but now you are breaking the peace, the russian federation is not ukraine, and he continued his phrase by saying that he is a supporter of both peoples, the pontiff can not blame any nation at all, because there

are both evil people and good people in the people in general, the norm of christianity is that the pope can accuse the state of aggression, he can call the head of this state a pillar of evil, by the way, what the pope still won't do, and it's more surprising than what surprises me more, this is what we were complaining about during during the second world war, you should not think that the pope blamed the german people for some reason, he did not do this, and the allies also say exactly what you are telling me now, and why does he not say that the germans have a broken heart because the germans are evil. the people can not be like that, so called father and there should be a claim because i believe that when we say uh tell the pope that the russians are evil and they mean uh terrible and so on as a nation they don't understand me, that's what we appeal to, he won't say that even

under torture russia like dad states and putin as the head of an aggressive state. this is what he should condemn, and i have a question for him not only as a pontiff, but as a head of state, this is his direct duty, so the fact that he does not do this is the number one question, but he does not does it again, i repeat, because, strangely enough, he is the head of a european latin american state, this is not done, and the president of ukraine of latin america this year is not a european pope, and he does not do it because the vatican is on one side in rome and on the other because it is a theocracy. how strange it is in latin america, and if we knew that the vatican was in a riotous service or in caracas, we would not be surprised. he is not a young person, this is a very old person who has already formed as he is. and

this is correct. you and i have basically formulated the thesis that our diplomacy should, in principle, strive for. the fallen pope can calmly and neutrally treat the russian people as a shepherd is generally his right to heal lost souls, otherwise if he is a priest, the pope can love russian culture and read dostoyevsky , it is not our absolute business to be interested in what he reads at night, but this has absolutely nothing to do with the aggressive policy of the russian federation and the actions and vladimir putin's statement, because what president putin says and what, by the way , patriarch kirill says, it does not correspond to the christian catechism, it is essentially a direct appeal to evil. and if a person who is the head of the christians of the world from the point of view of one's own perception of one's role, these statements about evil are not noticed, then this raises the question what

is important to you, because i say fathers again today, the current statements of the pope did not confuse me, i do not think that he should stand with christ and curse the russian people, this is again after all, this is not his task, it is no one's task at all, i generally believe that the depopulation of the nation is what the stalinist regime did in relation to the german people during the second world war, it leads to blatant consequences for the people themselves, which is an instrument such a policy, although it is absolutely obvious that the germans are people of german origin, they are on the territory of the soviet union, in particular, on the territory of ukraine, they commit terrible crimes that can be compared with the russian ones. but again, the question always arises whether, as a result, they should have been responsible for these crimes with the murdered violent german women who were raped by soviet soldiers, and they were representatives, when these people entered the territory of germany, they definitely remembered that this whole people is evil, we can do anything with them whatever. they are not people. it is not possible and this is the russian

way. by the way, russians behave as they are. they come and perceive ukrainians as not people. it is very dangerous in the fight against a dictatorship that turns its people into tools for fighting another. always for i think i told you or maybe i didn't tell you well, i once told you at this table that i read the diaries of a german writer, a cadet of one of the famous german writers, he was one of the debt of nationalist ideology, he is a friend of the national-stylistic bones and he could not be called sympathetic to the allies, he will publish his diaries from the time of paraska in germany, and in these diaries it is clear that all armies behave differently, that soviet soldiers behave completely differently from americans, french in english that the representatives of a specific army are

after all about the image of the people, it is the result of the people , or the representatives of a specific army were convinced that the germans are not people uhu, what did they not convince the americans, the english, the french, they were told that you should come and show these people the atrocities of their state, grab them by the skin and lead them like concentration camps, but they were not told that it was not the people and that you did not develop it for you. it was late and i will tell you that i noticed one more thing in these diaries: poles still appear and the poles also do not call this author with this finger because he says that they are taking some things. they are from the ukrainian national team . well, they will destroy the germans and they will rob germans, but they don't kill them en masse, they don't rape them, well, that is, they don't have this poland that suffered less from the germans than russia, not less,

but these poles were prisoners of war, they were in german camps, they have no idea that they can do everything do whatever you want with a german because they respect themselves it's a matter of self respect so they can take away from him a service or a show or something else well what do they need they need we won we suffered we want these things but they don't think they have a threat and go and to systematically kill and this difference between nations is a difference between society soviet society turned people into such and such soulless figures and us i don't think about russians at all you know me frankly speaking it doesn't really bother me and i've never been particularly bothered if i'm honest the selfish fate of the russian people i am concerned about the fate of the ukrainian people because i would like the ukrainians to hold out in this war within the boundaries of that humanism which is generally present in european nations and which has always been

destroyed here by the russians precisely because of the russians as here appeared they started doing this pantel it's a bit difficult because there are emotions there is hatred for what they are doing in our territory with our people how to deal with it we will all need to undergo serious psychological rehabilitation in order to return to humanism it is obvious but this internal state when i was a small child, well, a small schoolboy, i remember the catastrophe that happened in the camps of palestinian refugees. i went to where the troops of general ariel shiron, whom i always respect and respect today as an outstanding statesman the leader, they missed the troops of the phalanx of the gelevan christenings, which massacre, as it often happens between arabs , unfortunately happens between different denominations, and it turned out

that for israel itself, for world public opinion, israel was guilty of this because it did not ensure the safety of these people, the civilian population, women and children, although it is obvious that if this population were asked if they wanted to invent tomorrow all of israel would be destroyed, they would say yes and this is also my opinion, women and children, it is not a question of political views, it is a question of the fact that you have a machine gun and they are unarmed and i remember that i was then listening to reports on israeli radio and the people who were conducting the reports , israeli journalists, they were aware of this because they believed that the jewish people, who ended up here in the middle east, was losing these humanistic traditions that were inherent to him in general until the moment he did not have this weapon in his hands and something must be done to hold this weapon again and on the other hand not to turn into your own enemy because if you crush your own enemy you are actually doing what these people who

shot at you for many years and not to mention the holocaust, that is, not to be the most like that european from whom you ran away and that arab who is shooting at you and this is a test for any such nation that for years felt like a victim here suddenly felt that she has so much power that she can kill everyone, but it is very important not to kill at this moment it is very important to stay within certain limits and for me it was a very important national lesson, i perfectly understood that even not being a citizen of israel but being a jew, i am responsible for what happened, and that's why when later the poles asked me years later why there was a story about a pogrom in a small town and two would not be in poland and why the poles are blamed for this, i answered to my japanese

friends that's why you are proud of the pope to the poles we are all proud of ivan paul and him, who is the personification of humanism, but that i am proud of the pope, to the poles , we are just a person of polish origin, but you think that these are the virtues of the polish people, you should be responsible for the poles who are pogroms, you should to feel responsible if we feel responsible for good and evil. in this way, we get our own people on a certain uh-uh, i would say limits on the deed, we know that we want to have a fair trial, to never be shot on the spot, so that if ukrainian soldiers go somewhere enters he behaves like a person who respects the law and not like a russian soldier, we have seen how the appearance of ukrainian and the appearance of russian differ, and how people feel it, although the footage of the liberation of kherson shows the truth

and so absolutely nothing, now imagine the situation when people in some place in the 40s and 45s greeted the soviet soldiers as liberators of some poland or the czechs and then started this holy self-government, so to speak, it is also for many people were shocked, so in this regard, i understand very well that it is very difficult, but it is, by the way, the work of the priests, not ours , and you, by and large, explain how the responsibility of the nation differs from the responsibility of the state and its head of the nation also corresponds to the fact that it is actually in this state, when the state is assigned reparations, if it is defeated, the same operations are paid not by the abstract state, but by the nation, if you were present during the war of aggression and your own state, they stopped it, supported it, and please,

then pay money to the people who were deprived of housing and future, but no one can kill you personally and punish you, who in principle did not do anything, just lived because you could not get out of this country in the mika and generally understand what is happening that's why it's all very simple. for years, the germans paid money to the countries they occupied and destroyed, but no one presented specific claims to a specific person, if he was not a member of repressive structures, it is very important to always divide, that's the same question, they asked vasyl bohdan about collaborators. people who are collaborators, who have to answer, who work in law enforcement agencies, etc., etc. you just live in kherson or in donetsk or in luhansk, they just live in the ukrainian state, not was able to protect them from the occupier. they stayed at their place of residence and not everyone can go somewhere to live. everyone has money, courage , understanding what he will do in another place. people are different, it’s true. well, these people are not responsible for the fact

that they lived in the occupied territory, they are responsible those who contributed to the occupation, this is important to understand, and the same applies to the russians, those who contributed to the aggression, the president, deputies of the state duma, members of the federation council above the officials by the way, our beloved propagandists are in quotation marks the kremlin people already spoke a little differently, if you noticed p. vitalya from skabeeva, yesterday she was almost sobbing on the air that they left kherson, what will happen now, well, you already know the moods, they are not cheerful, they are beating the nazis and ostensibly liberating our territories and by the way, simenyan wrote such a post. i want to quote if you commented while the whole army is eating. nadezhda will end the war with honor with the loss of the army, not only moscow, all of russia will be

lost . vitaliy, what are they? they already want the end of this war, i don't think, first of all , it takes a long time to understand that they, er, mykhailo leonovych, when he was leaving moscow, he burned it, or did they also destroy everything they could there in kherson, luckily they had time now, they are not wooden cities. they would also want everything they burned it, then, when the russian army was alive , this russian army acted on the territory of russia against napoleon's army, what is this russian army doing in ukraine, even kutuzov, they were known for the third time, i don't believe in me at all, i'm quite simple said primitive notions of whether it is generally worth paying attention to people who work in russian propaganda, because in my own eyes this russian journalism, uh, turned

into a degradation, and it was such a selection. i'm already thinking that you can still remember someone i know quite well, but the problem is that these people have never been in the first roles in russian journalism. dmytro kiselyov moved to kyiv to work on ictv tv channel not because he was a successful russian journalist and because he could not stand the competition in the then russian journalistic environment and he decided to try himself in another market because he did not find a worthy place for himself in this market solovyov was one of those marginal show

hosts of russian television that there were completely different people of a completely different professional level, i'm not even talking about human qualities, because human qualities are different in people, but russian television there in the 90s and early 2000s. this yevhen is jelly dmytro is leonid parfyunov. this is svitlana sorokin. this is serhiy dorenko. you can also mention kira proshutinska massa and we. when you turn journalism, even television into just what you want, your boss comes to the office of some minor official in the kremlin. responsible for the television of an absolute idiot , i am just a responsible user. i know these references, again, i have known them for years, so i show myself what they look like and what they have in mind and the level of their world, all this is not the same for me , and here is this petty official who, in another

situation, would not be known to anyone at all. and the interesting one just tells you what should be in this or that program. he already has this folder written there in some serious kyrie or to anyone else who agrees with this, uh, to deal with the guarantors of journalism either leave immediately or try but they don’t succeed because they look too individual they have their own opinion, they were speaking at any time maybe to get caught means that two categories of people can withstand this competition, prostitutes and degenerates , i apologize, that is, the one who is ready for anything, for money , for anything, simply, simply, for everything,

radioactive ash, yes, radioactive ash, at the same time, not having such views and treating those with great appeal who sets such problems i think that for dima kiselova and for volodya solovyov putin and piskovi, all these people are simply elements of their deep, they are simply, i think, considered a person, and these are theirs, this is such cooperation anton krasovsky he is always like that was or was not, which demanded something, efforts, this is a well- known moscow trick, you live to a certain age, yes, you are 35 or 40 years old, and you mean you are with sen petrova.

he's a pop super star, i think krasovsky, maybe we ca n't add that he's stupid or bad-looking because there aren't many. and he would be here. and why is he a blue petrov, in which no stars are needed at all? that's why he starts looking for ways to his success. i remember very well how one such person is very famous, i will not name the name, but you also know this person very well. that was built for the people of moscow, a friend with apartments there, millions of dollars, i live in this house, i lived in one piece, this person means that i told me, that means that you can stop here, this person is sure, she drove me to this new house. of course, vitaliy.

and i realized that if i had gone out through the entrance closer, i would have lost all my family in the eyes of this person, because what was important to her was not what i say about how i work, but exactly the level of the penthouse krasovsky just needed a penthouse and he it's just that these people perceive it as a game, because they don't see anything outside of this penthouse. i was in awe. once, when i came to see my colleagues like this, they said to me, well, vitaly , you're not like me, you can't be like me. said i don't want to be like a candidate well look at what kandelaki is doing, she is destroying the profession, how can you compare me? you understand that i am well, that's all for me, i think, you know, i started to be incredibly happy that, after all, i can

look at it from the side because i always thought well, i'm coming there, i uh, in the company, with my polish american colleagues and i, a ukrainian journalist, we discuss all this. and if i take it to russian journalists, what problems i had internally, i would understand that, in principle, everything is over, i can’t do anything, i’ve been marginalized, i can’t do it professional market to have an audience to be successful because the values ​​that i profess are simply not accepted by the state and the majority of society, well, everything is fine with krasovsky, it's just like that that people like skabeeva and simonyan appeared next to solovyov or kiselev, not very intelligent people, not very educated with not very good taste, you saw this man, er, simonyan, whose surname is keseya. imagine that you have such a man, that you communicate with him, that's your problem, it's just your problem. well , she has no problems, look at what these people in

in principle, they despise their own homeland, but in the chestnut, not because they talk about armenians , about ukraine, but also because they talk about armenia, that is, there is nothing holy about them in principle, i see an absolutely brilliant scene like krasovsky who you know he is openly gay, he also made a career out of it. when it was necessary, so when he thought it was profitable, now it's not profitable, he doesn't talk about it like that, but he already said it when we saw him. we know what happened . the application is suddenly accepted here in russia the legislation that provides for criminal punishment of people will be put in prison, this is so-called propaganda lbgt, what does this mean, propaganda, i don't know. well, in principle, krasovsky can be put in prison because it was already the first time. now it would only be necessary to make a statement a second time, and he already maybe for 5 years, krasovsky sits and tries to

justify it. i think that this is an incredible humiliation, well , that is, you are actually justifying the fact that you yourself were declared a criminal. to justify i don't need anything i don't need to confess to anything because i said i absolutely feel myself as a confident person as i am, this is normal for a free person but i feel ashamed for krasovsky, i'm just not a political, pure human, god, you still know how pavlik morozov is, beloved the hero of the soviet children so just sit and do that oh well, the father should be shot of course i'm such a shame when i see it the last time i remember it too this is all soviet times and it's said once again like before russia came closer, i sat watching television . where was it possible for me to be 10 years old and there was a press conference of an organization called the anti-swanist committee of the soviet public

, and there sat jews, ethnic soviet citizens , general davyd dragunsky twice, heroes of the soviet union, elina bystrytska, a famous actress from kyiv, by the way people's artist of the soviet union, who later betrayed ukraine as well as betrayed the jewish people. beautiful career, yes, and they were telling what a terrible state israel is. what is it? jewish nationalism you, too, and i watched this general dragutska, i think well, it is interesting that you are twice a hero of the soviet union, that is, a colonel during the war, such stars are not given for nothing. why weren't you afraid to ride in a tank then? you could have burned up . and now you are an old man you spit in the face of your own people on television, don't you care, how could you just say that you won't go? well , i would. i would sit at home on my radar . the colonel-general wouldn't do anything to you. it's

brezhnev's time, not stalin's. it's a shame i was incredibly ashamed of them and i saw that they are not ashamed, i still don't understand how they are not ashamed, i don't understand how krasovsky is not ashamed, and i think that there are some people who have a sense of shame , it has self-reflection and information, it can even be bravery, but there is no self-respect, by the way, we found out exactly the recipe for soviet civilization and today's russian civilization absolutely. by the way, oh, and about some figures of the russian federation who are already calling for such negotiations, you know, taking into account modern realities, from maria zakharova this week made such a statement and the head of the russian ministry of foreign affairs, as well as say yes, andriy rudenko said that he somehow