tv [untitled] November 14, 2022 12:30am-1:01am EET
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iryna koval, mother, wife, host of the espresso tv channel. and i am also a volunteer. our soldiers at the front need a lot of things every day, and that is why it is part of my life. today is helping the armed forces of ukraine, and i am very grateful to my colleagues for supporting me in this sport during the war, how empty it is. stadiums without fans in the stands, deserted sports halls, and even destroyed sports facilities, our athletes lost the opportunity to train at home because of the war and had to flee abroad to prepare for the future starts, those who remained with weapons in their hands heroically defend ukraine in this war, the second place of ukraine will not suit us, we need victory, each of you in the army saves the lives of our soldiers and brings
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our victory closer, we have new details of the recovery of the difficult story of 11-year-old sashka marchenka, a boy who after his death his parents were left alone in the occupied territory. he is finally staying with his aunt, who searched for his nephew in donetsk. we were told about this by sashka's uncle, mr. oleg, who lives in the territory controlled by ukraine. he is his aunt. now he is under observation, it's just that they left somewhere and they have no contact or something else, this is of course very happy news, because the boy wants to go to the occupied territories, but now he is not alone and is with his native aunt. and in the spring, when the boy got lost in the donetsk region , sasha's uncle mr. oleg told me what horror his nephew had to go through, the man told me that when
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the war started, sasha lived in mariupol with his mother , grandmother and grandfather. clothes uh, after that there was a whistling and a strong explosion, a crash, here is the actual photo of the house where sashko lived, the explosion was very powerful and then a big fire started, the boy his mother, grandparents, found themselves in a fire trap on the seventh floor of the building through the railing of the balcony outside in order to help them go down, he jumped and he didn't make it and fell down, unfortunately , our grandfather died in the meantime, the fire was getting stronger, i would save the boy, mother and grandmother tied sheets and began to lower the child downwards, there were some sheets. some sheets
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, uh, they tied them, they tied sasha up and started and gave him a phone, a backpack and started to lower him down. sasha says that when he was still coming down from our place, his mother, svitlana's mother, and grandmother already started to burn the fire was very strong and they burned there, the boy was brought down from the 7th floor and on the 5th floor he was picked up by a neighbor woman who took sasha to the street and already there they were stopped by the russian military. at what time nothing was known about the fate of sasha and where he was. later it became clear that the boy ended up in all this time, sasha's uncle in donetsk tried to remotely solve the question of how to take his nephew home. and now, fortunately, the boy's aunt managed to come to donetsk, but the fact is that
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there is no way to get him out of there, because the boy's documents were burned in the spring during an explosion in the house, they thought because crimea may be possible, it didn't work out for me through crimea, not through luhansk, well, through donetsk region and even abroad, it's impossible because it's impossible to get to russia without documents, you understand. oleg says that he is constantly in touch with sasha's aunt and a woman says that they are trying to restore the child's documents, but due to the strong hostilities, it is almost impossible to do this now. i know that she was talking to him, she was drawing up the documents for him there, and she said that due to the fact that there were hits in the administration in donetsk, she is not working. that's it now the situation is that everyone is stuck and despite the fact that there is such an active fuel in lviv, they simply closed these administrations and flowed and that's all and says well, we don't give anything to anyone, it's still stopped there in donetsk, oleg says that recently
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also talked on the phone with his nephew, luckily the boy is physically fine, but now most of all he wants to be away from the war of explosions and next to his own uncle, he doesn't just want to come here, he doesn't just want to come to those, he knows me, he knows my children, he also just wants to i really hope that in the near future sashkov 's documents will be restored and he will be able to be taken to his uncle , and now, of course, the most important thing is that the boy has been found and he is alive. at the same time, all these children who you you see on the screen they are all missing please go to the website of the child tracing service and look at the faces of these boys and girls if you recognize any of them immediately call our hotline at the number 116 000 from all mobile operators free of charge you can also
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write in the chat bot of the child search service in telegram at this time we are restoring internet tv connection, we are doing everything to restore normal technical possibilities of electricity and water supply as soon as possible, we will restore transport connections and mail quick help and normal medicine, but please don't forget that the situation in the kherson region is still very dangerous, so mr. petrenko , the day before, you talked with fetr vonislavskyi, a member of the parliamentary committee on national security, defense and
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intelligence, and for his in words , it will take somewhere around a month to restore water supply, drainage, inferior communication, so absolutely communication, including normal postal operators, to fully enter e-e at the same moment, many mines there is still a stretch on the territory of kherson oblast and, unfortunately, the sapper the sapper who demines they er also suffer injuries during the performance of their work and civilians so what er hm er moves again through those territories that the sappers have not yet demined and this is where the moment arises er in your opinion, to what extent can the state allow itself this process of full-fledged recovery of the region, because in addition to the recovery of these benefits, which elena also talked about in particular, we are also talking about finding
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the same collaborators in the same russians disguised in uniform, how long do you think this process can become in the context of the fact that the region needs to be rebuilt in the same parallel way, and ukrainian citizens continue to live there and stay, well, this is absolutely true , because the starting point is precisely what our citizens who live there they need non -elementary things, it's water, it's light, it's medicine, it's food, according to supply. well, of course, that's why security, and the task set by president zelensky, in particular, is precisely to restore life to the maximum extent in the occupied territories, so that people perfectly understand that ukraine is here, ukraine is with its citizens, ukraine will support them in every possible way, as all ukrainians, that is why it is very important and, well, there is indeed a security issue here , unfortunately, today we already have several detonations - detonations on mines, this is a civilian car, this is and
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a car with employees of ukrzaliznytsia and, unfortunately , there can be quite a lot of such cases , therefore, first of all, the residents of these territories should protect themselves and listen to the local authorities, as well as to the military and civil administrations that clearly indicate where you can go and where you cannot go, and so on, we must also understand how to tell the whole world how the russian federation behaves, despite the fact that they included these territories as subjects of the russian federation, leaving them. they completely destroyed the energy infrastructure. they mined a lot of civilian buildings and buildings and buildings, let's say critical, according to the infrastructure yes , the restoration of water supply in the same mykolaiv yes through the corresponding kherson takes quite a long time period of time why because those points to which they reach are firstly destroyed and secondly they are mined entrances well and so on because of course this is not terrible and accordingly a situation that simply
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demonstrates that for the russian federation absolutely sneeze on this territory sneeze on people who live there, respectively. this is exclusively for them. i don’t even know how to call it, yes, the tool, but what and for what, respectively. well, that’s why. everyone should understand accordingly, that’s why all those processes that you say are actually parallel, yes, that is all this recovery is gradual and the key here. of course, this is help to the citizens that they got everything they need. critically, on the other hand, on the other hand, this is of course a security issue from which we will not escape , and the russians, as we know, are very disgusting, and accordingly, there is a multi-layered issue of - firstly , so that it doesn't turn out like this, that now everything will be written off . even what can be quickly restored for the war and there are some objective circumstances, there is no equipment, there is no supply of something. and there is a story with the fact that oh, ask me more nicely. what else do you think? does this phone right work? i have the right, does anyone know
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if it is the godfather? are the conditions different now, and how can you be sure of this? you understand that people tell the content is completely different. well, i think that it still works to a lesser extent. for today, we are quite the only organized well, i just remember myself, i am a resident, respectively , near irpin. i remember that when the de-occupation took place there. well, how many people were the authorities? well, understanding, the volunteers helped a lot, everyone acted as a single mechanism. i think that the same and happening in particular in the kherson region. now we already have a lot of requests for what the residents of the regions need. i know that there are already a lot of volunteers who we know, they respond, collect the necessary lists. people even from other relevant regions are ready to join in and help accordingly. are there any unfortunate cases yes, when someone somewhere under-processes something, i think that they can be, but they are minimal in fact , because the local authorities, respectively, at the level of military-civilian administrations and at the level of the government
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yes, everyone is interested in fixing life in these territories as quickly as possible. so, next week in kherson oblast, they will resume the payment of pensions. is the system clear yet? how will they be paid? in fact, they will pay for all those who were not paid in one tranche or gradually. i think that now, well , the government is working on various points, there are logistical issues, even deliveries. yes, for example, ukrposhta , it says that they need it there within a month, they will be able to resume work we know that a large number of ukrainian citizens receive through the relevant ukrposhta the issue of bank transactions, the restoration of their work, this is also a question of a certain period of time. therefore, as far as i understand now, we are talking about the payment of certain amounts, which may even be more than usual. they receive, but well, it is unlikely that we will now be talking about the entire array that is now in debt, because there is a question hmm er well, let's
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say the distribution yes and the planning of a certain er, i'm not saying that we certainly weren't ready for de-occupation of the corresponding kherson well, but there are moments that need to be worked on, but we can definitely say that ukrainian citizens will not be left without money, not without appropriate food, not without other support assistance that is needed today, it will be her state, it will be civil society, and that's all together we will help, let's develop this topic, but after the escape of the russian military from kherson, the people of kherson began to massively criticize the president of the russian federation, putin. and in the kremlin, they started talking the split was reported by the american institute for the study of war according to the information of analysts of the escape of the russian invaders from kherson, the promises of vladimir putin were questioned, it is noted that the propagandist oleksandr dolgin, who is allegedly called ideologues from this so-called russian world, began to criticize him, according to him,
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the president of russia should, quote, save his nation himself, otherwise the fate of the king of rains awaits him end with a quote this is how he did not draw attention to the fact that putin could be killed by other russian propagandists they demand the kremlin to throw all forces into the war. by the way, it is precisely with the formation of the war against ukraine, in particular, the number one propagandist volodymyr solovyov calls for full mobilization and the release of officials after the escape of the russians from kherson, that is, as noted in the same institute for the study of war, some bloggers who were brought up by them ro even declare that the russian authorities are constantly surrendering territories but do not ask whether the russians themselves can, mr. petrenko, what do you think is brewing in the russian federation right now? probably unconscious, i would like there to be a split, uh, putin was removed, replaced, and so on, but to be honest, what do you think? well, look, there
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is definitely a constant war of different types of the kremlin . he has now fallen into such a vortex of wrong decisions, bad for him and for russia, respectively, it is intensifying more and more, that is, everyone understands , first of all, a piece of the pie that they usually shared , it becomes much smaller, this is a matter of sanctions according to the pressure, this is a question of uh, not a well-thought-out policy of russia, well, in particular, the strengthening of the ruble in such a situation, well, it is actually the death, uh, in the death of the economy, yes, the economist here will know better, but we understand that this is a wrong decision only from the point of view of the propagandists who you can say, look, we are so strong, we are here, respectively, well done. well, thank god, keep doing it, how to do it next, but here there is a question of prestige, why did russia and putin's corresponding regime win, that we are so much stronger, we have the second army of the world that we can bend europe yes we can freeze them so we have all the levers we can
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throw in the face of nato that you are climbing the borders there in 1997 and 1998 now about this solovyov in particular what he says yes this is a very principled position that we have, but in the end , everything turns in the other direction, that is, europe did not freeze, they diversified the supply of energy resources very quickly and accumulated their respective reserves . yes, it is not very convenient. in general, nothing critical happened on the northern stream 2, in general, it is a project that will not bring anything, respectively, the russian federation of nato is expanding . yes, in finland, sweden is even closer to the borders with the non- russian federation, and here it still turns out that this is an extremely ill-considered decision, and we are there with my colleagues when they sat and analyzed him, i asked him to walk, tell me, well, maybe i know, somehow, he is already too much, well, he perceives this whole situation too personally, and i cannot be there objectively. look at the things, but explain to me how you can make decisions
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about uh, it means joining the russian federation, the territories you have taken care of, you can't get, you can't. well, it was already visible then, yes , it was just the day before. and this was the march-broscope of kharkiv oblast that was made by the ukrainian military, it was also visible after that how we hit the logistics and highways of their destruction, and yet i understood otherwise, and now the decision will sink in very hard because it turns out that russia cannot protect kherson, why is it an important bore for the russians, because it is the only regional center that succeeded for a certain time capture and then these are the precedents that will work in particular with crimea, that is, dear ones. well, you included it. yes, you consider it russian, well, from their side, yes. well, we understood that the whole world does not recognize it, but well, how did it pass, how did it happen with christ? that they did not surrender it, yes, they were kicked out of there, they simply had no other option, but to flee in disgrace from these territories, respectively, and this is internally poorly
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perceived, because it turns out that kella’s dude missed like a silt, accordingly, he is not such strong, which means that you need to think about what will happen next, what will be the future decisions, etc. well, how will this sound on his environment and those people who are involved in the process of state management, he was part of the russian federation. ah, in the euv, you have probably already seen that they removed the word kherson from all weather forecasts on their federal channels, but what are we talking about here? what are we talking about here? are realistic in their proposals for the negotiation process and hint at crimea. it seems to me that the return of crimea now looks much more realistic than even the day before yesterday, relatively speaking
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, and much more realistic than some other territories captured in the 14th year, but it is necessary to understand whether, relatively speaking, it will be a compromise and whether in general , a compromise called crimea is being discussed in the high-ranking ukrainian cabinets. well, look now, remarka’s reaction, more precisely, sally ’s, is being discussed. what kind of objection did you come to kyiv there? it means that they inclined ukraine to the negotiation process, yes , they seemed to be kind to the russian federation. he said that this is absolutely not true, or ukraine itself determines that we are interested in strengthening ukraine as much as possible from the point of view of the potential negotiation process, but we cannot dictate and we are not going to the conditions and in fact the four positions voiced by president zelensky regarding the possibilities of negotiations with the russian federation, they are clear, they are clear, they are acceptable, respectively, for our partners, and you already understand that there is a seven-state proposal, which actually says
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that donetsk luhansk is returned to ukraine, according to the crimea type. that means a neutral territory for a certain period of time, that is, up to seven years, with the demilitarization of this territory in fact could you imagine, for example, in 2019, even in the xxi, even in the 22nd, at the beginning, similar similar statements and consideration of a similar scenario, that's why i absolutely agree with you that really now, well, absolutely different approach and, in particular, for the development of crimea, let's not forget the influence of the crimean platform, because we returned to the agenda, we are now working at different levels, it is at the level of heads of state, at the level of parliament, at the level of civil society, because we are setting a bad precedent if we do not now will we be able to fix it, yes, this is what other autocratic countries will appeal to, in which, well, we have enough in the world right now, and that's why we have to solve it, and in fact, the president
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of russia is already working, and in particular, he works for, for example on china, which was thinking of attacking taiwan, for example, and given that taiwan is also obviously a country that is quite motivated about its independence, and a country that has the support of such powerful allies, the united states and america. and china, although it has a powerful army, but without combat experience well, there is something to think about, because at first alya was the greatness of russia. yes, you are the second army of the world. it turns out that it does not work at all in modern conditions and motivation . well, because let's say objectively the first month war, in fact, ukraine extracted absolutely from the resources it had. yes, before that there was support for the javelin ufo, but we understand that before that it would clearly not have been enough compared to the real feat of our armed forces and all our defenders of ukrainian society that we were able to do and after that we have already started to really receive the support we have today, russia
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will certainly weigh in on real, adequate peace negotiations and will withdraw its troops from our territory, and this will happen immediately after we where we are occupying donetsk and luhansk, the adviser to the head of the president's office , mykhailo podoliak, wrote about this on twitter, saying that after the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine in the kherson region surprised and amused the whole world from those in the kremlin , the phrase "we are ready for dialogue without any conditions" is being heard more and more often, but the position of ukraine constant demoralization , support for the war in the russian federation is rapidly flying over the bottom from the oligarch to chobotar, an opinion is being formed, it is time to finish politically and psychologically, russia is not yet ready for real negotiations and the withdrawal of troops, but it will happen immediately after the liberation of donetsk or luhansk , mykhailo podolyak, advisor to the head of the office of the president of ukraine, ihoryu and what is happening in
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russia now with their seven constant appeals, lypne on our knees, we are ready already without any conditions, this is the process of maturing before normal negotiations screen well, there is an attempt to stretch time, to drag out any moments in order to gather all the strength they have left there. this is the only straw left in the russian federation. why because nuclear weapons they will not be able to they can use it, well, theoretically, but we understand the effects, they understand the catastrophic consequences, not tactical, inappropriate, strategic, and so on, there are chemical weapons, and so on, which means that mobilization does not work, it is obvious that they can not build up their forces now, at least in order to , er, try to create some kind of advantage on the battlefield, and it actually does not have them. look at the battles that are currently ongoing in the donetsk direction . look at bakhmut, respectively, that is, they are fighting according to the doctrine of the soviet union there its worst, respectively, options are the use of live, respectively, huge force, and they carry deer, respectively, well, losses. well, if
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they fight like that, well, okay, well, but this is a question for the russians, what do they think there, how will they respond to this, accordingly, so i don't see any possibilities now, well, look they had a plan, which means that they are blackmailing there, which means that they are blackmailing the eu, and then to the syachtovsk hydroelectric power station. yes, then the martyrs, they made a bet, which means that the situation will change on the field. because absolutely nothing worked , they tried to terrorize the relevant city, too. in fact, it changed absolutely nothing, well, now they are waiting for missiles from iran, respectively, it is not known how they will be there, but in general, that is, in the military plan, it is unlikely that anything can change for them, so the only option for them is victory, not just they are trying to follow the old memory . projects of infrastructure, we already know that not someone is tight
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-fisted, yes lavrov will come to j-20, and the americans and the british have already said that we will boycott this fine man with his wonderful manipulative speeches, yes, just negotiations in the understanding of russia and negotiations in the understanding civilized education, they are very different without any conditions in their presentation and in our presentation these are categorically opposite positions without any conditions in their version this is recognize our king in our version get away and look for the phrase compromise and formulate realistic wishes well, she is so very strange in this context, no look , it means that what is happening now in the russian federation, she simply cannot get used to the situation when she is non-inductive conditions and cannot get used to it, and because well, there is no other option or they receive a shameful defeat yes and get rid of all their gains
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, well, gains for them, so what they had, and it will be a pretty serious blow, or they will try to come to some kind of agreement and say well, that's what we planned, yes, let's say something like this the approach they are now trying to apply here, well , the important point is also that this is not the end for the russian federation, in fact, look at the statements from pike perch and the prime minister of great britain, richie sumach. he said that, well , the task is to throw it away as well there is g20, at least the russian federation, and there is no statement from the minister of economy of the united states of america, who notes that, okay, even if there are some changes, yes , we can review part of the sanctions, but i am honest, the sanctions will remain for quite a long time, that is this is already a losing situation, respectively, for the russian federation, you just have to understand that russia is now, well,
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pressed against the wall, but according to the old memory, it is still trying to find some suitable options. well, success here, again, they they absolutely cannot reach now and say that they have some goats that they can use. well, there is no single trump card - this er means to remove er putin or first give putin something when the decision was taken from the army and means about returning, respectively territories, then it can be eliminated in various ways, yes. here, i think ukrainians can advise a lot of options. well, let's say at least show some movement towards change according to the regime, this is the option that remains because the whole situation is different. they understand very well that, for example, from december the russians will begin to feel very well, this is a tautology point, but the tangible impact of the sanctions pressure, which is because the sanction they always have a certain temporary varnish, and there the sixth package of sanctions will begin to act somewhere in december
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to influence russia and then it will be difficult even more difficult and when it will be superimposed on the military defeats of the russian federation and this is not the last defeat in kherson, you understand that they will face extremely bad situations in the south and further, for example , the black sea fleet is no longer ready for combat patrolling because he is afraid of the sea mosquitoes of the ukrainian military er-e yes, that's what we call them respectively on combat idle well of course yes that's why well this speaks eloquently about the story about the bad situation in which we are now accordingly, the russian federation appeared. thank you for joining our broadcast. ihor
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petrenko , a political scientist, was in the studio of not only news. and disobedience, who else puts not just a dot above and but two dots above and it is difficult to convey your feelings because there is a lack of words, create new ones , this is how we got the art of a dream, and the occupiers tighten their tails when they hear pro-ukrainian rants and cotton, and we haven’t mentioned the 30-letter words yet, although we have loving words for everyone, we will find us, don’t destroy us, protect us. the power of three forms of the future tense, we will go, we will go, we will go to victory, in spite of everything, the ukrainian language of the free in the most terrible times, serve, protect, help,
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thank you that you protect us, your loyalty is felt by every city, we appreciate your support, every day, together, we bring victory closer national police of ukraine, killing civilians, destroying civilian buildings, forced mobilization, kidnapping rape of civilians is torturous, this is the most serious international crime that does not have a statute of limitations , the document should be submitted in a timely manner and correctly.
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