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america and vot and china are now saying that it is impossible to use nuclear weapons, i think this is a very serious signal for russia, i still do not believe that russia has consumed so much that it will start a war that will end the whole world and china clearly understands that this will be the end not russia's war against ukraine, it will be the end of the whole world , and that's why i think that after all, america and china will not allow this. and if the united states and china have found at least a few points of consensus, then can china influence other countries that are and in the big 20 themselves. this is also happening in the brics organization, which is also characteristic. well, look directly in china and it has no effect. we really wanted him to call putin privately and clearly tell him to stop the war
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. china expresses its positions expresses its positions, but we can translate the same way, uh, what happened in asean the other day, it was clearly stated that, for example, china wants asean and asia in general to remain neutral, so that it does not help, does not bother on the position of the united states in relation to asia, for example, yes, this is a clear position of china that was expressed, and this is precisely the confrontation of china with the united states , in particular in the asian region, with russia, after all, it is a completely different relationship, and china, for example, for a long time considered ukraine as the zone of influence of russia, and therefore he did not interfere at all in the relations of russia, for example, with the countries of the post-soviet space, at the moment, if we see in central asia, this is also becoming a problem
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for china, and it is starting again to express one's position on this matter, to say that russia should not behave the way it did before, even towards its close partners, even towards its allies, such as central asian countries such as kazakhstan, etc., which are located near the borders of china, that is, china is already worried about these flights, and russia is directed precisely on questioning the global situation in the world yes, china is suffering from this, china understands that this is not in the best interest of china in the end, this whole situation is why it is looking for a way out of this p. oleksiy and if putin will still act and how he acts well, accordingly, how ready will china be to change its attitude towards the russian federation and towards putin, we understand that without chinese turning a blind eye, there would not have been a large-scale invasion of the
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russian federation in february of this year. cooperation is more lively than you, and accordingly, russia will continue to ignore calls for the withdrawal of troops. so what about the chinese? i don't believe that china will do anything. china will wait for the situation. you know the famous proverb. yes, how a smart monkey is sitting on a tree watching the battle of tigers in the distance, china has nothing to do here, yes, that is, he will wait, that is, if putin falls, if his regime loses, then china will respond accordingly to the change in this situation, but he himself will not make certain efforts or if he continues the agony of this government, which he understands very well that he is doing stupid things, you are the same and uh, to support his rapid fall, i think so, that is, china will accordingly prepare for all possible scenarios and
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then act accordingly, he will not now to directly make any such decisions p. oleksiy but before the meeting at the ball there was also an extraordinary symptomatic meeting german chancellor olaftoltz flew to beijing with them there was a meeting with us all dilpin and olaf scholtz what do you think this means because olaf-sol is not only the chancellor germany is one of the most influential figures in the politics of the european union. well, germany really wanted its policies towards relations with china to become acceptable to the entire european union. at the moment, isn’t that right? that is, he was criticized for something in europe for his visit to china on the day of the saint. that he is exactly the loophole, the
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gate through which chinese interests affect the european union, that is why he was criticized for this visit, but you are the one to blame continued because it was there that zinking spoke for the first time about the inadmissibility of the use of nuclear weapons on the continent and believes that it is his merit that he first achieved this official such an official statement from beijing and thus justifies, for example, his visit to china. currently, germany and china have specific relations, they really have many issues in many dimensions. they are much denser, much more open than the relations of the whole of europe with china, and therefore the scholt tries to be such a leader of interests or to lobby for the interests of europe in china and, accordingly, to involve china more in
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european affairs to the cooperation of the entire russian federation with china, oleksiy, i imagine what volume of information you analyze on a daily basis, so i would like to ask you to give, despite the multifacetedness, so to speak, an answer, to give a simple answer, what is happening now with the chinese economy, and what is the reason for the fall of the yuan? containment of the pandemic, which is still ongoing, as china believes, but we have seen this in the past, and there are some first signs of a relaxation of this strict anti-covid policy, and this has already been very well received, for example, by the markets and funds that have become the chinese yuan really fell, let's say it weakened against the dollar, but it's not significant, it's not a critical fall of the yuan
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, it's something steam now costs, it cost 6.2 that is, it's not the kind of inflation we observe in other countries, and that's why i think that china really did not reach the indicators due to the pandemic, because there is a socialist economy and there are laid down certain er, let's say such guidelines and which still need to be achieved due to the pandemic, the bodies have not been reached, on the other hand, i don't, after all, i don't think the whole situation is a disaster for china and it will be to correct next year, there will most likely be stimulation of economic growth from next year onwards. oleksiy, i would like to ask you about china and, strangely enough, belarus understands that china has certain interests, and belarusians, as well as oleksandr lukashenko, the self-proclaimed president, sometimes referred to certain chinese presence in the region. what do you think is behind the chinese
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presence in the region? what are its interests in belarus? well, and accordingly, how are they going to share influence with the kremlin on this currently sovereign a state but which is under a powerful russian cap. well, i believe that china is precisely the fuse that has not yet completely allowed russia to subjugate belarus because, after all, china remains one of the key partners of belarus and it is not interested in belarus completely stopping its existence as an independent state. although , on the other hand, belarus did not live up to all those expectations from china, because china still hoped to turn belarus into a kind of hub of your interests on the border with europe yes, and what between russia and europe, through which he himself would conduct his policy, for now this did not
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happen, also because of the greed of the belarusian leader, who was not able to organize good relations neither with europe, in fact, nor with ukraine , nor with the baltic states, which could also become such the hub of china's interests, that's why, in fact, belarus wants, let's say, to take away the transit role of ukraine for a certain time, for the duration of the war, in return, and it also did not give china everything that china expected let's put it this way, that's why china really doesn't want russia to determine everything that is done in belarus, especially regarding chinese interests . thank you very much, mr. oleksiy, for this extremely meaningful and interesting analysis . with khrystyna yatskiv,
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we will pass on our baton soon, but for now we have these golden few minutes to say goodbye to our tv viewers, to say goodbye to a few important messages kyiv does not even theoretically consider any concessions on the issue of crimea, the head of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba, wrote on facebook about this, i will put a stop to and in relation to media -related conversations about pressure on ukraine regarding negotiations, how far ukraine can go in liberating its territories, and what will happen next etc. first listen to president zelensky russia must withdraw its occupation troops from the territory of ukraine and the international within the internationally recognized borders negotiations are just a smoke screen, russia is playing constructive, but actually wants to take a break to recover and later continue the war with new strength, we will not go for it and we call on our partners not
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to play along with moscow, kyiv does not even consider any theoretical concessions on the issue of crimea , talks about that ukraine will tolerate or give in to any incitements if they are against our interests. in the world, who behind the scenes talks about not believing in the victory of ukraine and expresses endless doubts, today i spoke at the time of the eu ministers and told one interesting story, what a story it was, i think more of our colleagues will tell about it. occupations joint project of the center for middle eastern studies and the internet publication historical truth let's see together
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today the very ethos of the ukrainian warrior in eastern ukraine is being formed before our eyes, which eastern ukraine has and is shaping its heroic narrative struggle, and this is a struggle both on the part of the ukrainian army and on the part of the civilian population, which does not accept the occupation, which remains devoted to the ukrainian ideal and the ukrainian homeland, ukraine. that is, this is the component that has been missing for a long time in our common history, such a community as the luhansk oblast, about them few people remember because these communities there have up to 20,000 inhabitants, but there in some places the passions were much more powerful than in big cities and
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the responsibility of a person, its visibility there is much more bigger, that is, these people took much more risks than in a big city, because in a big city you can get carried away by the crowd, and there, in order to create nato , 10% of the population must come out, and they came out , and i would like to tell about this heroism of the ukrainian people, and i would like to tell about the matchmaking city in the east of ukraine, the center of the territorial community in the luhansk region, the population before the war was 16,420 inhabitants . svatovo was under the control of ukraine until march 2022 and before that it was not captured. crowded protests in the town of svatovo shocked people all over the world. there was an explosion. i woke up. i left. even from the window i could see the place where the first explosion had landed.
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well, the sound of the rocket and the second explosion came out. i looked up so easily from the threshold and there everything was on fire. i could see immediately that it was a rocket. there was a strong explosion and the ground was shaking. that's enough . it's scary right away, anxiety right away, i don't know what to do. at that time, i was a younger daughter at home, she ran into my room and started screaming, mom, get up, they're bombing us, then i immediately turned on the television and realized that the war had started, they first went to bilovodsk, then to starobilsk there and then already. we constantly talked there with local residents of other villages standing on the highway
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. with a tank, i drove into it, a tank drove into the city alone, a tank drove into the city, he reached the old bus station, he is almost at the border of the city, the suitor is standing there, and he drove there, we drove there for the first time, our former peace, the former evgeny viktorovych left father dmitriy is our priest of the orthodox ukrainian church, the only one in the swativ region , a representative and a local local businessman, my handsome, and they just pointed the bmp weapons at
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us. we approached well , the actions just saw your friend, the army of the world, when we were already, their walkie-talkies did not work, the uniform was very scary , all the blacks, well, for sure, well, they attacked from the training ground immediately from there, the slides came in green chinese rubber boots, we went out on the same level with them, we talked to them differently, as we were still there, we were conquered or something like that. we asked them not to enter the city . uh, people are
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very, well, so dangerous. what can you do? they can do something. uh, throw hammers. they came to the conclusion that they are . there was already a general chat in march that is, there was already information, some security, everyone was exchanging information, and at that moment information had already arrived that they had entered the city and several trucks with personnel had entered and were moving in the direction of the center. we
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were gathering right away. and we got into the car, we all drove here, people wrote to the police that they wanted to capture us and just ran. well, you read it, you understand how it all works, well, i personally will jump on the bike, it was spinning like that those pedals go there nothing. well, it seems for so long, you know, people just ran from everywhere, from wherever they could, and of course the distance was different and everyone ran differently on time, not on time, we all gathered near the police, mmm, well, it was probably up to 200. well, who didn’t i took into account that they were just looking at the masses. well, there are. there are many people standing there with flags. they all
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drove up and stopped somewhere 200 meters from us and hurriedly drove in their cars. they poured all these cars with automatic weapons . three of them came out to us. meet us at the meeting and they shouted for three of us to come out who would communicate, they took us to protsiv and so we hid behind the transport somewhere, there was a man of 60 at that time, we especially had no one to communicate with, we do not know where the head of the military civil administration went, and the military commissariat no longer they were carrying out the order, the mayor came out, the acting chief of police came out, another woman came out, and father dmitriy came out
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. in the area they did not try to prevent them from entering, they said that we ourselves are in the city, we have the police , we have firefighters, we have a hospital, everything works, that's why we don't need your help. well, they listened to us. they said, well, we don't have opportunities to solve such issues of lack of authority. now we will consult. they left us, he called someone, talked to him, came and said that it is good, we are leaving for now. well, they returned . such a fury. that is, you pressed the live broadcast button
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. moreover, before that, i had never watched those live broadcasts through facebook. especially. well, in the frame, you already know a lot about such a real human being. maybe somewhere you can’t hear well who is saying what, but it’s the negotiations yes, but the main meaning is that he is there, it sounds like, starting from march 1, every next meeting was live , everyone was watching us, literally, the whole world, i saw the maximum number of likes, 50,000 , something like that, and 28,000, like, comments i'll be honest i just understood what they see in us now, it is clear that everyone supports us now that everyone is for us, well, you know, there was some kind of confidence. well, we are not stupid, no, but there was some confidence that this is some kind of inspiration. you know what we can do, we will drive them out,
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we will we were sure of that well, we thought that in principle well, if it was all over for today, but in the afternoon, somewhere around two o'clock in the afternoon, there was a signal again that a car was approaching, a car was approaching the police building there were going to run, they all came to of two light cars, one of them had license plates, but blacks, one of us was with us, the license plates were taped, a toyota rav4 got out of it, hmm, we will say yes , no, no, no, a sober person came out with the shoulder straps of a colonel, so next to him was the one who came to talk with us the first time and there were also
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guys, well, young people, some of them spoke russian, well, that's russian, and they already spoke one, well, the local donbass was such a person. well, i don't know who he was, what his title was. began to tell that in order for there to be no provocations in our territory, no unusual situations, that is, in order for there to be law and order, in order to ensure the normal functioning of self-government bodies, he needs to bring his people here. well, let's plant one little man at a time we would send one man to the police, er, we will put them in the city council, we said we don't need it, um, again the peace was present, who also said it's not necessary, we all understood.
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it's just that if their little man succeeds, that's all. that is, give them a finger, they will bite off their own hand. that's right, it happened exactly on march 8, what happened. we were afraid all night, our boys. why don't we talk in the morning, we didn't just drive in and get the police, the authorities said you are minding your own business, and we are not minding our own business, but we realized that it wasn't like that, we just came running there everything went on for seconds, i'm telling you where it happened, well, you can't pass it on to you, and they immediately blocked it,
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put up an armed guard, there were a lot of people, well, we gathered there, we started again . that is, even if someone started to talk, do not communicate , a warning, who will take a step, shoots at the impression anyway . we dropped them. we dropped them. we shouted, we all asked how to express our position that we don't want a russian ship in our ministry in our country, they look like this, you know. there was no army at that time, at least. yes, they were very
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sorry . that the video is being shot on him, so there were accents, they drove him there, you know, they caught him like a lying person, they released a new one, well, here, of course, it’s funny already the day when we were captivated, it was march 8, the irony of fate, what did they welcome the girls why do they smile at your holiday? and we sang ukrainian songs to him, nese galya is carrying water and all that, they also sang my kiev, he just said , leave, this is not ukraine, this is the luhansk people's republic, we are prohibited from such coincidences ukraine ukraine we came here forever ukraine
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will never be here and if you don't disperse all the time, there will be open fire on you, so we realized that there is no point in opposing us because there may be casualties, you saw how we dispersed, how we all sobbed, we all sobbed, you understand, we all sobbed and this our mayor, you know, a fragile woman took a cigarette from some man and lit it because everyone was in shock, she doesn't smoke, she never smoked, she just smoked it and we all cried together, but we left immediately that day or the next day, i don't remember every street went through every street from house to house, went to check documents, they already had lists of who was in ato, they already had lists of who was in ukraine and who was in self-defense, the very first
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man she captured, that was exactly that day, march 8, while we stood him just took it away you understand about the ukrainian position, no one knows he is not there today, yes, i had a search, but i was not at home at that time and they came, so the neighbors only said that they came looking for me, they looked for me, they looked for me three times. well, then how did such a turn come to me even though people live with me too and the emigrants from rubizhnye took away my shoes, the safe was broken, they took away the weapons, unconsumed bottles from the bar, uh, with alcohol , they found my treasures, i poured grape alcohol there in january with a 20-liter barrel, now on i wanted cognac, even they were not stopped, there was a
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trident written on the barrels, the chapter glory to ukraine , i came for the fourth time. it was the last time, and they came and took it away. i just went into the kitchen, went in and took such a frying pan, wow, why did i go there? they showed it at roadblocks who filmed it with a question, you know who filmed it no, they were looking for me, you know who filmed it, i don't know who to thank, i guess my place is like this, they love me , something will collapse, you're already being dumped and you're thinking they passed, they passed, and they started to climb every one, but at five in the morning, they were already packing someone somewhere. you see, i didn't plan to leave, but you know, it came like that in one second, no, well, tomorrow they will come to arrest me in my house, my daughter and son
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, that is, all the opposition now underground he is he is we must speak for the sake of those people who remained there who believe that the country of ukraine will return to normal, that they will continue to be free people who will be able to live freely choose their future to know and feel what democracy really is we should not to forget about well, so that there is no repetition, you know how it happened to the servant, i don't want to forget about our city, we are ukraine and we were ukraine, we are, we resisted, we are resisting, and we will continue to resist until ukraine returns

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