contribution to the support of the army saves the lives of our soldiers and brings our victory closer to the ukrainian service of the voice of america time i am its host ostap yarysh joe biden called the liberation of kherson a significant victory for ukraine the american president said that he applauds the courage and determination of the ukrainian military and that the united states will continue to provide ukraine we need weapons for our own defense. he made such a statement the day before the same group of 20, which is supposed to start tomorrow, he reported today that president biden met with the leader of china all to zinkin, among other topics, they also discussed the russian invasion of ukraine, we will ask more about yuliya yarmolenko, who is working at a summit in

indonesia this week and joins our broadcast from there, yuriy . i congratulate you. thank you for joining her. followed what was happening now, what joe biden and sisinpir talked about, in fact, ostap was given a lot of attention to this meeting, because this is the first time that the president of the united states, joe biden, is meeting with the leader china has been sitting down since the beginning of biden's presidency actually and in fact at the same time because there were very few expectations from this meeting because we know that the united states and china have very few common levers, very few topics on which they agree and what could be seen from behind the comic book in fact, the statements based on the results of this meeting, i will remind you, the meeting lasted approximately three hours, and from these statements it became clear that the parties remained on their side, in particular, disagreements remained between you regarding the issues of taiwan, human rights,

trade and the wave of technology, these things remained unchanged, however, what is important is the most important result. i would say that president biden probably became the fact that the country agreed to keep the lines of communication open, he emphasized to the press office and based on the results of this meeting that in fact he and that is understandable, he told the tribute to the dolphins that in fact the united the states will continue to compete with china, but as president biden said, they do not want any kind of conflict with china, and president biden also emphasized that there is no need to start a new one of the cold war and emphasized that, of course, since these channels of communication will remain open, the us secretary of state anthony blinken will arrive in china next in order to continue these negotiations. as for ukraine, there is an inscription, and at the conference, the president said

that he touched on the topic of russian aggression against ukraine. and ukraine liberated their absolute confidence that it is impossible to carry out and cannot carry out nuclear threats that this is absolutely unacceptable, that is, such things were discussed, yulia asked the american president about the advisability of potential negotiations with russia after ukraine returned kherson, as joe biden commented today joe biden said that in fact it is a huge gain for ukraine to return its territories. he said that it is not yet possible to comment on what exactly this will mean that he definitely said that the united states will not conduct any negotiations themselves and emphasized that nothing about ukraine without ukraine let's listen to the comment about nothing about

ukraine without ukraine this decision has to be made by ukraine. i think you will see that due to the winter months and the inability to move around the country with the same ease, everything will slow down a little. i think we will see what the result will be, except that i am sure that russia will not occupy ukraine as it planned from the very beginning, the possibility of the speech of the american president yulia on the eve of the morning of the usa together with the cake jake sullivan also clearly explained what the position of the usa is regarding the talks between ukraine and russia. if you do not happen, he highlighted four points in what they consist of. it was actually a very important statement made by jake salva on board the plane when president biden flew to cambodia on tanzen, i will remind you what happened and there jack sally outlined these four points first. he said that really nothing about

ukraine without ukraine, he said that the united states will not be pushed into anything, ukraine will not be pushed into anything , and ukraine will not be dictated to. second, he said that the united states is for peace, for just peace is based on the principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity, thirdly, he said that russia, by announcing and repeating its rhetoric about the allegedly annexed territories, does not actually demonstrate that it is ready for negotiations, and as long as russia continues to conduct such rhetoric, we cannot count on serious negotiations, said jack sullivan and at the very end, he summed us up about the fact that there is a lot of talk in the press about when ukraine will be ready for the negotiations, when should they start them first here let one important thing detail that ukraine in this conflict, as he said , is on the side of peace, and russia is a side of war, and if russia stops the war, then it will end, if ukraine stops fighting, then

there will be no ukraine, that is why it actually works, it was very important to hear from the games in the end, it is also important to understand what to watch next this week at the group of 20 summit starting tomorrow what are the main topics the main focus of this meeting yes ostap starts itself literally in 5 hours here local time and tomorrow of course we expect speech by the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi via video link, it is worth reminding that the meeting of the group of 20 itself does not focus so much on international policy issues, because this meeting of the countries is primarily economic and is in fact what we hear from the president of indonesia, who presides over the group of 20 summit -you, they want , they really want to discuss economic issues, financial issues, inflation, which the whole world is facing now, and what is the name of

the same denys, his slogans, uh, covering togethere, that is, we are recovering together, however, joaden , speaking at a press conference today, said that in fact all these economic consequences of the food crisis are actually all also the consequences of the russian war against ukraine, and therefore in this context we will also talk about unconditionally, it is also important to remind that there will be a series of bilateral meetings and already now we know from the white house about what about ukraine and about it at almost every bilateral meeting in which us president biden and lyod will participate. thank you very much for your work, we will carefully monitor the events in indonesia and we will also return to this with you during the week. this was announced to ukraine by nato secretary general

jens stoltenberg, agreeing with the us position, and the alliance secretary general added that russia should not be underestimated and that the coming months will be difficult, so nato's task is to maintain a course in support of ukraine most of the soldiers at a certain stage end up at the negotiating table, but what happens at this table is fundamentally related to the situation on the battlefield. therefore, we must support ukraine and strengthen their position so that at some stage negotiations take place in which ukraine prevailed as an independent sovereign country in europe ukraine will decide , because ukrainians pay the highest price in the form of lost lives and damage to their country , so ukraine must decide what conditions are acceptable for it in the meantime cia chief william berrons met with the director of russian intelligence sergei naryshkin in turkey, this was confirmed to the

delight of the us national security, the purpose of the meetings was to warn russia against the use of nuclear weapons and to inform about what the consequences would be in this case, the white house emphasized that no settlement of the russian war in ukraine was discussed at the meeting, let's go to in other news, the un general assembly at its 11th and extraordinary special session voted for a resolution on the creation of a compensation mechanism in ukraine caused by russia's war 94 countries supported the adoption of the document 74 abstained and only 13 voted against this time russia's camp was joined by iran and china my colleague iryna solomko watched the meeting from the un headquarters, we will ask her for details the format of this extraordinary session, who convened it and why. congratulations to

ostap, yes, the resolution was adopted at a special extraordinary session, which actually convened was convened almost before the beginning a full-scale aggression has begun, this is such a special format that does not mean that it is not closed, it allows ukraine and its partners to quickly respond to these challenges that the world is facing due to full-scale russian aggression, and these challenges are not only in the context of the world, but, unfortunately, in the context of the un itself, because e security council as a constitution that must guarantee the implementation of the un charter and also ensure security in the world. unfortunately, due to the position of russia, the use of the vent does not cope with that, so it is precisely the general assembly that takes such a proactive role in this matter and the day before i managed to talk with the permanent representative of canada, unb, bobomrem, who explained why the general assembly was forced to intervene in the situation. it was precisely what i was afraid of. the

members of the general assembly said that we must take responsibility for this on a permanent basis and that's what we do and that's why we continue to consider the issue of annexation we deal with this issue by working on reparations and the cost of the conflict very real financial and economic costs we have to solve it yes it is it is unprecedented, the general assembly is not used to doing this, there will be some members of the assembly who will be uncomfortable doing it, but i think we will do it and there will be an agreement that will allow us to move forward, there will be procedural points and the russians will try to say that this is outside the powers of the general assembly, the russians want to be able to be the aggressors so that to wage your war and not pay the price for it and it won't happen it can't happen it would be immoral i think we should continue to move

forward iryna you also had the opportunity to communicate with by ukrainian diplomats, how difficult was the work and drafting of this resolution, how it was conducted, the work was not easy because they worked on the text of the resolution for about four months and how ukrainian diplomats are joking because the topic of the resolution is money and in the end, you already mentioned that 94 countries voted for the resolution and more at the beginning, that is, in the morning, it was about what would be good if, for example, 80 countries voted for it, and i definitely should not expect more than 140 countries for the resolution, as it was, for example, when the general the assembly condemned the actions in russia, first of all, of full-scale aggression in ukraine, and also, that is , why was it so difficult because the topic concerns that is, it is not just a political declaration, but the topic goes beyond simply certain obligations, for example, or the responsibility of the ministry of foreign affairs, the stages of countries in them and here it is just

that it concerns such rather sensitive topics and topics in the life of the country as, for example, finance , economy or justice, not only the foreign policy department is involved here, the ministry of justice and the ministry of finance are involved here ministries of economy, judicial bodies and prosecutor's offices and tax services of almost every country, therefore , the process of agreeing the position of each country submitted to a specific resolution goes far beyond the limits of a political decision for today, in particular, in the organization of the united nations, we are already entering, we are leaving the stage of general political declarations and we are already entering a completely new era when already against the background of the inevitable defeat of the russian federation in terms of military

terms, the very painstaking work of restoring our country to collect reparations from the russian federation will begin federation and finding ways to optimize this work , taking into account the national characteristics of each jurisdiction that will be involved. iryna, well, perhaps the most important question is that it is important to explain how, what is the practical significance of this resolution, what can be a real mechanism of russian reparations for ukraine, and also, the resolution is the first step e- this is what we can say that this is the green light given by the judicial community, which is given by the un in order to finally start the process of collecting reparations from russia, and also during, for example, the speech today russia understood very negatively commented on this document saying that third world countries will now bear the

economic burden of this document, but this is all untrue because the countries, well, that is, and now ukraine has to negotiate with by each country separately so that, taking into account the national legislation and, of course, the interests of one or another country, you create such mechanisms that will make this procedure as comfortable as possible , that is, for ukraine and for this country for such a with which this agreement will be signed, as well as this resolution, it is, in fact, such a sign for the parliaments of countries, because ukrainian, that is, ukrainian diplomats pay attention to the fact that governments, well, that is, write laws. so that the parliamentarians in these countries also understand that it is the world community that supports all these initiatives, as well as the ukrainian diplomat, they predict that they will be the first on this path, that is, the first treaties there will be

signed there, for example, with the countries of the big seven or with those countries that are the closest partners of ukraine, and there are already in fact certain preparatory documents or a certain preparatory basis for signing these documents, and they have actually already been held, so there is actually a lot of expectation regarding this document and beyond we can say that the ball will be in the court of our partners and their desire to quickly and efficiently consider this issue and accordingly come up with this mechanism and implement it, we will assert as this the situation will continue to develop. how will this mechanism be implemented? irina. thank you very much for your information. i will remind you that iryna silenko was in contact with the un headquarters in new york. the united states and the world must at the legislative level recognize russia's actions as genocide of

the ukrainian people. an american expert said during the session of the helsinki commission in the us congress in the summer, the corresponding resolutions were already registered in the house of representatives and the senate, so now the legislators must approve these documents, congressman democrat steve kuan said at to this, a historian from the university of humanity, timatis snyder, noted that the world community has numerous evidences of crimes recognized as genocide , in addition, the russian authorities themselves also testified about their criminal intentions, just to make sure that this is recorded, i will say that the first crime in the convention on the prevention of genocide is the killing of representatives of a group that of course, it happened during the war itself, the destruction of mariupol, the mass graves, the second crime, serious bodily and mental injuries , the bombing of hospitals, the bombing of schools and torture, the third crime, living conditions, which, as noted by congressman koin, is happening right now,

denial of access to water, light, measures aimed at preventing births, this is the fourth crime of ukrainian women being purposefully deported, in addition, there is evidence that systematic rapes are intentional, which, among other horrors , this crime aims to eliminate the desire of ukrainian women to give birth to children in the future, and in the end what i consider particularly painful is the forcible transfer of children from one group to another, and they constantly brag about the deportation of children, that is, they constantly brag about committing genocide, this applies to a specific crime, but it is also striking that the russian government constantly brags about its crimes, takes pleasure in crimes that, according to the definition of international law, are genocide. putin says that ukraine never existed, that its existence is certain a mistake, this is already genocidal language, the second type of language is colonialist rhetoric . colonizers constantly say that other states and nations do not exist, they say that

to prepare for their destruction and this is what mr. putin constantly repeated and the third language of genocide is the language of exceptionalism when you say that the rules do not apply to you as mr. putin said on september 30 during the signing of the so-called annexation when he said that who even established these the rules, or as he has been saying for the last 10 years or more, that russia is some kind of special civilization that does not apply to the rules , it is extraordinary that the russians, in addition to committing the crimes themselves, provide a historically unprecedented level of very clear expression of genocidal attempts throughout time at all levels of government and in the media. well, these are the arguments of the historian of the sharp university of timothy snyder, but in the usa, according to the results of the midterm elections to the congress, the democratic party retained control over the scenario, regardless of the second round of voting in the state of georgia, the predicted victory in arizona, and nevada democrats have already won 50 seats together with the vote of the

vice president, who is malagasy, everything provides them with a minimum majority, instead, the counting of votes for the us house of representatives in some districts is still ongoing, so far the democrats are winning 24 seats republicans 212 for the majority it is necessary to win at least 218 seats the inevitable result of a full-scale russian invasion will be the victory of ukraine and the restoration of its sovereignty, the former commander of the us allied forces in europe is convinced of this. and now military analyst ben hodges shared his predictions in an interview with yulia yermolenko i remember you said that the ukrainians can return their territory to the position they were in on february 23 by the end of this year or this still remains your assessment i still think so of course it will it is difficult because it includes, for example, the return of mariupol, but my assessment is based on the existing

superiority of the ukrainian troops and population over the russians in terms of will and willpower, the will to fight, the russian troops, most of them categorically do not want to be there, we see it, this is one of the reasons why i see an imminent collapse secondly the situation in ukraine continues to improve it is not perfect but continues to improve while the russian logistics system continues to be depleted and under enormous pressure and the ukrainian general staff supports attacks on russian logistics systems, which is a very reasonable approach, what kind of situation do you think we will be in by the end of this year and by the middle of next what do you think will happen i hope that the russian forces will be pushed back exactly as i said to the line on february 23 it will be mariupol zaporizhzhia melitopol it will be difficult and they may not get everything i understand that but i

think ukrainian forces will be more effective in cold weather in winter than russian forces because they will be better equipped they have the initiative and much better logistical support but every time i am more and more impressed by the creativity and disciplined approach of the general staff in how they use the means how they use the opportunities how they continue to surprise the russians be the attack on the kerch bridge drones against the black sea fleet similar things continue to happen, fighting the russians off balance and making it difficult to provide for the russian forces located in the southern part of ukraine and in the crimea, that is why i am optimistic about this. i know

at what stage this process is now, what discussions are held by the pentagon, in my opinion, there are no good reasons why we do not do this, so training will take time, but no one learns faster than ukrainian soldiers, so this will require a large package logistics because the abrams tank needs a lot of fuel and the maintenance requirements are different from the maintenance of a typical ukrainian tank. okay then let's start the process to have ukrainian units that will be ready in march or april with abrams tanks leopards and other modern tanks and tracked combat vehicles infantry like mortars let's start now and i ca n't think of a good political reason why we didn't do it this year you started talking about terrible human losses of killed civilians especially in the past few weeks with increased missile attacks and do you see that the air

defense system that countries in particular germany have already provided are already showing effectiveness and influencing the change of situation to situation and the difference is felt every day we hear about how many different drones missiles are shot down it's amazing to me how well the defenders deal with them so yes they are changing the situation of course we don't know how many more missiles and drones the russians have or what they are getting it is obvious from the iranians that many of them are launched from crimea. and therefore, in my opinion, the provision of radio weapons sitting 300 km away would allow ukraine to hit every russian base and potential launch point and storage location in crimea, which is a sovereign ukrainian territory . for example although i do not agree with this i can at least understand it i do not understand why we should not put weapons to

use counterforce in crimea and where you mentioned pressure efforts to scare the ukrainian population but efforts are also being made to push the group of 20 itself to negotiations. do you not think that this summit can become a platform where the leaders can start to put pressure on the negotiations? they have a pushover, but not gosheishens. i hope not, or if they will put pressure on russia, every article in the media that i see, every time someone talks about it, it is always about pressure on kyiv to go to negotiations. this is complete nonsense. the pressure should be on the kremlin, and the unexpected that ukraine will cede part of its sovereign territory is nonsense i don't think that president zelenskyy will go for it, i don't think that the ukrainian people want to make money, ukraine now has an advantage, why should they stop? even if it somehow meant the end or cessation of the flow of missiles flying into ukrainian cities,

too much has already been paid and no one believes the russians. believe the russians that they will fulfill any agreement or that they will not come back two years after we all lose interest again, so i think that if there is any pressure to be put on anyone, it should be on the kremlin to immediately they stopped the killing of innocent people, the destruction of civilian infrastructure, these are all war crimes. i saw the photos from buchi again, how can you negotiate with someone who did it, i don't understand how ? now we have to press and give ukraine everything it needs to continue this pressure, people should get used to the idea that russia will be defeated in the old-fashioned way on the battlefield. the black sea front has already been defeated and ukraine does not even have a fleet. do you think that putin will accept defeat ? he did it but at some point he will have to

make a decision to lose so badly in ukraine but it's much worse to lose in russia and that's why when he starts thinking about preserving his own regime because other people around him are not happy with the way it's going that's exactly why in my opinion probably he can even say something like we killed all the nazis in ukraine, ukraine is free again, we are slavs, you know, we are glad that now it is much better and then they will leave, no one will believe it, but let him say what he needs, if only gone do you think it's likely that russia could use nuclear weapons because that's the concern they're spreading most of all i'd like people to stop talking about nuclear weapons and the administration should stop talking about it yes we take this seriously putin doesn't care how many innocent people die so yes we have to take the threat seriously but these nuclear weapons are really most effective

for russia when they don't use them and we all keep saying that's exactly what they want because it makes us worry that he can really do it that's why we stopped doing things like providing attackcams providing abrams f16 or 18 or other things that would help accelerate the successful end of this war by ukraine the victory in the war of course the creams want this so i think it's unlikely because it doesn't give them any advantages they will lose their advantage the day they use it download the voice of america mobile application the application allows you to automatically bypass blocking thanks to the built-in vpn service read the news watch informative programs and videos and also listen podcasts of the ukrainian service of the voice of america and

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