15 countries have already given their consent, of course we understand that, first of all, we are supported by those countries that are really close to us in spirit and those that understand what the aggression of the russian federation is and who will be next. there are decisions of the parliament in lithuania and estonia, as well as resolutions of the parliamentary assembly . the council of europe, the european parliament, the osce , and the nato parliamentary assembly will write down the mechanism of the tribunal's work in a document, and the created body will be able to start considering the case even before the end of the war, we expect that it will consider cases of the highest political leadership of the russian federation, it will not be hundreds of thousands of suspects and then accused. it will be a rather limited circle of people who made a direct decision to invade the territory of ukraine starting in 2014

, and the case will most likely be heard in absentia. physical access to putin and his followers can obviously be to appear only after the change of the political regime in russia, at the same time diplomats and lawyers of ukraine are currently doing everything maybe the world would see the main criminal behind bars olena chernyakova maxim trouble ukraine marathon, the only news, the broadcast is continued by our colleagues olena chabak and oleg panyuta, not exactly two o'clock in the morning, save the light and believe in the armed forces of ukraine unconquered cities of ukraine, this is cozy kherson, the pearl of the protected territories of ukraine, the city played a significant role in the formation of statehood, it became the southern center of the ukrainian revival during the great terror nkvdists shot almost

2,000 people for nationalism, and the kherson leadership of the oun, headed by bohdan bandera, actively fought against the german invaders, because an angry kherson native was against the enemy column will leave, but the occupier will not bow down. kherson is unconquered, real ukrainians are peace-loving , kind-hearted and sincere, as long as they do not touch us, because if they go to war against us, the nation will show the cossack

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olena chabak and oleg panyuta will work for you in this studio for several hours. well, right now our guest also joins us in this studio - this is igor reiterovich, a political scientist of the political consultant mr. igor, we welcome you to our broadcast, we invite you, we are glad to see you, and traditionally, our broadcast has many guest appearances, and we start this information hour by adding to our broadcast more one guest, olga stefanishyna, this deputy prime minister for european and euro-atlantic integration of ukraine, she is already with us on the phone. the g20 summit will be held on the island of bali, this is a very important meeting at the level of the leaders of many countries, our president will not be there, but nevertheless the president will address the respected international community online, several influential publications reported that international leaders will try to

avoid condemning the russian federation for the war in ukraine what should volodymyr zelenskyy say as the president so that they don't express concern but voice their tough position on this issue, and it really will happen by itself kyiv time at night, accordingly, at night there will be an address by the president. this is the first time that the leader of the ukrainian state is invited to the meeting and the president will take part in it. it is true that such an address will be online. it is important that we are preparing not only for this to be an address. the president will announce specific proposals related to the restoration of the regional pillar of stability and peace in europe. and indeed, you correctly drew attention to the fact that

there are no security issues in the key issues that will be considered by the leaders at the summit. energy digitization, overcoming the consequences of covid, what is determined by the geography of those countries that are part of the g20, but it is obvious that the discussion at the level of leaders will inevitably relate to the aggression of the russian federation in ukraine, the war started by the russian federation, but after all, this war is a global violation of - and all standards and rights, including formats such as the g20 and the principles on which they are based , our president will make an appeal with his proposals at the same time, i think that it is very important the fact that on the eve of the meeting itself in the g20 format , a resolution of the un general assembly was voted that the russian federation not only violates the principles of humanitarian international law, but also must pay for the crimes committed in the framework

of this war - this is a good basis for this discussion was meaningful, moreover, already today the leaders of china and the united states made clear statements about the inadmissibility of nuclear blackmail , and some countries have already announced additional military aid to ukraine, that is, despite the fact that the public agenda of the g20 itself is consensual, it is obvious that the majority of discussions in any format will take place precisely in matters related to the restoration of peace and bringing the russian federation to justice, but we know that a meeting of the presidents of the united states has already taken place today of the united states of america and china, and so far we have had a special reaction to the war in ukraine. we have not heard whether something will save us for the future for the

next period. will be heard throughout the night, today and tomorrow, and they will not raise the veil of specific negotiations, at the same time, this is an unprecedented format when the leaders of the european transatlantic asian states have the opportunity to talk about common interests, they are always public statements that were based on the results of the meetings today the american and chinese leaders rate it very favorably after all, despite what the leaders talked about behind the scenes, public statements still show that there are common such a dialogue is a matter of common interest, and precisely the absence of loud statements based on the results of these meetings, in particular from the american side, indicates that there is still a dialogue with china, i am sure, as well about the security issues of mrs.

stefanishina, about the further international participation of russia in the g20 summit for the future, there is an initiative in the verkhovna rada that is designed to deprive russia of such an opportunity. are there any precedents in the history of international diplomacy and how will we proceed in this matter? and the very format of the g20 or of the big eight, which was also with russia until 2014 , these are primarily political formats, these are not international organizations, so actually the country, as well as in business, coexist with each other as long as there is a common interest, common values ​​and a basis for dialogue for stability just as the role of the russian federation is currently not constructive within the framework of the entire system, it is also not constructive in any other format, and i believe that russia itself is doing the greatest work regarding the isolation of the russian federation

a long road has already been paved for this and in fact, over time, russia will cease to be the player who will be at the negotiating table, it will be the player for whom decisions will be made. for now, we hope that we will get to this quickly enough, such calls will be heard and they are objective , first, the responsibility of a for the crimes of a country that was a guarantor of security in accordance with the un charter and within the framework of the soviet union, today this country not only does not have the right to take a place in those formats that guarantee security, stability and economic prosperity and should be punished for these crimes that are happening right now, even as we speak to you ms. olga, well, as a result of the summits , there are already 20, as a rule, there are joint resolutions this year, er, such a format may differ or

not be foreseen at all, it may not happen like this joint resolution, in contrast to the decision of the un general assembly, where a decision was made to collect reparations from russia in favor of ukraine and the vast majority of countries supported this resolution as far as this decision can advance the ukrainian issue in the context of receiving money from russia for what it has done in ukraine well, it must be said that the absolute majority of countries that supported the resolution also regarding the non-recognition of fake referendums or the only paper war that the russian federation is capable of and the resolution on compensation for damages all of these, the majority of these countries are part of the format of the g20, so the chances of us adopting a joint statement that will reflect the content of these resolutions are quite

a-a high a-a at the same time, we believe that the resolution of the general assembly initiatives of ukraine should first of all become the basis for a wider responsibility of russia and also be a signal to the authorities in the russian federation that no crime will go unpunished and for anyone who wants to liberate putin's regime it will also be an element of responsibility and understanding that its citizens, the citizens of the russian federation, will pay for these crimes for ten years from their own pockets, and the oligarchs will pay with their herds. issues of european and european integration was directly in touch with our studio, the studio itself. thank you for being with us now and listening to this important dialogue about international politics about the g20 and

the meeting of the general assembly of the un. we understand that it is a long and difficult road that awaits us well, we are expected to be recognized by all countries of the need for russia to pay reparations and it seems to me today a very important decision was made on one side the russians immediately started talking about the fact that this does not obligate anyone to anything, but there is one nuance that they forget about. the fact is that this is a decision of the general assembly of the united nations, russian assets are not in the organization of nations on them, but in specific countries and these countries can now with pure force or refrained from a clear conscience refer to this decision and say that this decision is not related to their own legal points but to the decision of the general assembly of the united nations, therefore they assets were frozen for today and now based on this decision they will be able to transfer them to ukraine, it is very symptomatic that such a

mechanism has been repeatedly hinted at by such countries as the united states , great britain, that is, those countries that have a significant part of russian assets, because the russians tried to invest money there, and now these the money is simply frozen, so at stake is such a part of the global solution , the solution, the legal solution. well, the national national makes a decision and says that we transfer it there is a different matter when he relies in his arguments on the position of the organization of the united well, it simply will not cause any doubts in the courts there of a higher instance such as the appellate supreme or constitutional, well, depending on the country , let's say the russians actually understand that this is a very bad sign for them. they are trying to somehow divert the focus of attention now, but by and large they will not be able to return the funds. how long will the war last? we will be able to to receive the first revenues is it unrealistic yet is it realistic because in fact

the time period will depend on the first decision of some national court, some canadian one, it doesn't matter which one yes, there are already 330 million and the american precedent is emerging, a precedent is also appearing in other countries if it will be, for example, a european country well and the european union for all other members of the european union this is just a gift this will be a signal yes here the question is that not always someone wants to be the first er not because they are afraid of russia because they would be responsible at this point and they want it to be legally flawless. but i think that such a decision will actually appear because russia does not pay attention to ours , tries not to pay attention to it and continues to introduce itself very brazenly, so to someone it it will get boring and the decision will be put into effect. 94 countries supported this decision.

baskets on the one hand syntepinna meeting with biden conveys such a hello it's just to putin, well, it's not hello, even you know that well, such a blow is serious enough because in an eastern language, how much do they directly say that forget about any conversations at all, even the blackmail of nuclear weapons there is unacceptable and here china's position is absolutely tangential to the position of the united states, well, on the other hand, they vote, yes, they vote their economies, but china will not participate, we must understand the freezing of russian assets or their transfer there is in favor of ukraine, they have their own game, so you don't need to pay special attention to china, you need to look at the countries that won, but again, with all due respect to different countries, there is not really a very good one, except for india, maybe, which won, and all the others - these are countries that do not have these russian assets, firstly, secondly, they are either not at all interested in the war that russia is waging against

ukraine, well, there is such a reality for many countries , or they hope to just sit back and then be friends with both russia and ukraine, this will especially manifest itself during this, the g20 itself , because those countries that want to stay among the g20 participants are several, the same india that received or voted against in some issues, it also expects to receive its dividends, because we have to wait from the g20 itself. well, let's wait after all, it seems to me that a lot will depend on the decisions that will benefit ukraine, well, the speeches of our president, he will definitely be central to what someone likes it, someone does not like it, this is an objective reality today, it can be such that it can change the perception of other countries, well, the speech of the president online, which, with all due respect, will be one of the same speeches before the same national parliaments, for example yes, but here leaders have gathered, yes, that is, communication is of a slightly different level, let's say and it seems to me that well

, the president will find the right words to well, maybe not radically change the position of some countries , since these same leaders left already having a certain, let's say, idea of ​​how they will behave but it is very important to properly submit and present ukraine's position to those who are already on our side, they will only get stronger in this, yes, but here the information effect is important, i don't know the pr effect, pr as a state, yes, to show that ukraine is not just an opposition to the russian federation, we do it extremely effectively and there are some seeds somewhere, but you know such insecurity in the force. the return of kherson can be a plus, it is definitely the thing on which we must focus our attention. it is our trump card . the number of defeats, which is already very difficult for them to hide even from their partners, and kherson. in this regard, as of today, i emphasize because i really hope, like all of us, that we will literally receive

some new news tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, and that's it for now cherry on top of the cake, just like us, you read the analysis of the western press, which writes about the fact that in the joint communiqué, which may or may not avoid such phrases that can criticize russia for launching a full-scale invasion of ukraine the speech of the president is exactly what i asked ms. stefanishina about, he can change the views and the answers of those leaders who will be at the summit have already been prepared in relation to the in the eyes of india and china, in fact, such things are important, well, to present it in such a way that if you cannot agree that russia attacked ukraine and is waging an aggressive war, which is nonsense, absurd, well , frankly speaking, then find yourself at least courage, then in general it is better not to make any joint decisions, it will be right because if you are looking for some euphemism to call the

war in a different way, well, first of all, you will not be in a very good light, and then you will definitely be in the future it will be remembered, it will be the right message, and it is possible that even the absence of this joint decision will be to some extent even a success for ukraine, because lavrov was sent there with one goal: to block all such initiatives and, if possible, knock out some neutral the wording that they will use in the broadcasts of their propaganda channels to tell that they actually make friends with russia and that they actually communicate with russia, but we saw how they communicate with russia today, the russians organized this story , sorry, about the disease, not the disease, just to attract attention, because lavrov, by and large it was not interesting to anyone, but it looked like a decision, as if there was a boy, so it would not be clear what happened because there was something like that, because western journalists found something there, but the point is not in this, the russians started this topic, it

looks very primitive, then they blame western ukraine for creating what they wanted , this short note where lavrov, although in this way, was able to suppress the ideas with which putin sent him to this very place. in principle, they are forced to resort to somehow offering fake stories. here is this story, it hardly interrupted the meeting that took place. today, i mean the meeting of a zinc worker and a biker for 3.5 hours. they talked, you know that already an unattainable dream for putin, not the same with biden 3 and a half hours talk and even talk with zimping yes and this is actually a very important signal because apart from the statement about nuclear weapons, we don’t have much other information yet, but official chinese sources say that china once again expressed the need for peace negotiations there for a peaceful end to the war. yes, in ukraine, he calls on the parties there, he does not call on the parties in ukraine. yes, he calls on the parties there

to resort to diplomatic actions of some kind, and so further, but at the same time, one important statement was made before the summit by the official chinese officials with reference to price gouging that china, despite its differences in traditions, ethical aspects and the vision of the global world, absolutely considers cooperation with the united states to be normal and is sure that it will be able to normally co-exist in the new globalized world, which, according to the synopsis, will consist of the two poles of china and the united states, and even in this format , there is still no reason for this conversation, of course it is the key thing is that after they met, putin put an end to the nuclear blackmail, well, to a large extent, he will still try anyway. especially the trump card is no longer there, but it will be very difficult for him to do it now because of such a direct well, this is not even a

hint, yes, that is, he was told directly, because even those people who were in his closest circle and who previously not only doubted but simply did not speak up vs. it seems to me that it affected them even more than putin himself, that is, they understood that this was a hint, including to them and even from whom, from the country with which they tried, well, if they dreamed of at least cooperating in the future if they lose everything in the west then we will turn around and go, let's say, to the east, and here in the east they tell them that you can come to us, but there is a certain list of conditions and in principle, which you must follow, this meeting is a kind of cold shower for putin. he dreamed of being there on at this meeting to greet him tesla shook hands and talked as if he were an equal or not, he wanted to remind himself of himself but i think that he refused this trip, well, for two reasons, firstly, he knew what would be discussed there and that it would not be his topic there tsentralna and second eh. i think that he

finally refused after he found out that zelenskyi would speak there because, well, that's what was said about it. well, there were certain doubts. he would go, he would not go , he would not speak. zelenskyi has it simple there won't be time for that, because the war is on, the commander-in -chief. when it finally became known, well, apparently, some of his analysts came to him, if he trusted them, and said that no matter what we did there, no matter what we did there, it will still be a topic that will be interrupted. in any case, they will talk about it more, they will discuss it more. well, of course, he would allow it from the point of view of his positioning, he could be a key person at this summit. if he said, i am withdrawing troops from ukraine he could could, er, attract very serious attention to himself now and even try to restore his image in the face of some countries there. well,

what we are talking about now is the realm of fiction. we must understand this. we have repeatedly hinted to him . we know that they transmit information through various channels and he can do it at any moment, after all, ukraine has always said that we are ready to sit down at the negotiating table if all the troops are withdrawn , territorial integrity will be returned and we will then we will be able to talk about some other things that are already global, some new configuration of the security system and so on. well, then he does not do this because he is still under illusions that he will press this situation so easily and press it to the benefit of himself and the russian federation. the initiative of the verkhovna rada, which we have already mentioned regarding the deprivation of russia's right to participate in the g20 summit for the future, is there a chance in ukraine to press this issue, there is a chance, you know why. because information that is very similar appeared today the position was, for example, of the representatives of the european parliament, who directly ask the question what is it? sorry for being a fool. well, they are going to

vote to vote for a hundred countries, but they also tied participation in the g20 to it. they asked a very simple question. and how is it even possible that the country that in the 21st century unleashed the largest war in europe after the actual second world war yes, it is invited to such a summit with the representatives of this country. shovel this rock, yes, it is not fast, yes, we must understand that there is an automatic mechanism there, but we are taking all the right steps. these are not comparable things, and here the work is visible, the results of this work are visible to an unarmed commoner , we just have to continue it, sooner or later we will achieve our goal, there is one of the quotes, i would like it , er, for us to listen to the whole world, this is a quote from jens stoltenberg, the whole world is interested in defeat

russia is in the war against ukraine, because russian aggression endangers the entire international order, nato secretary general genstaltenberg stated this during the briefing, according to him, the whole world is paying a high price, but if putin is not stopped, the price will be even higher, let's listen to a quote from tottenberg , ukraine's victory is necessary and not only ukraine itself, nato also has an interest in preventing putin's victory. if putin wins, it will make the world more dangerous and vulnerable, it will allow other authoritarian leaders to violate international norms the right majority, it ends at a certain stage at the negotiating table, but what happens at this table is fundamentally related to the situation on the battlefield, so what we should do is to support ukraine and strengthen assistance, jens toltenberg, nato secretary general, in the context of the quote from the head of nato or will listen to the g20 as the leaders of the largest energy-consuming, most powerful countries in the world to such a position, and whether russia is really facing

difficult times in the context of international politics, well, the majority will listen because they unequivocally on the side of ukraine are those countries that are currently not pro-russian, there are no countries, well, except for syria, i don’t know, maybe iran, eritrea, there are a few more who vote for russia there, who frankly have such a professional position, yes, they have such a neutral position in their understanding. but if we delve into it and let's look at the position of india, well, first of all, of these two countries, we will see that this position is actually even more anti-russian, because russia entered this war , it is trying to break the entire system of international relations that existed and these countries just want to take advantage of the situation now. we thank you for joining us for this conversation and for spending the late hours with us talking about such important things . hello dear, i want to

tell you something. you are tired like a mother after a hard day and you don't know if tomorrow will be better because today is so hard. but everything will change. it must change. we, your ukrainian children, will help you. you will become happy and we are together with you, because you have all the land, forests, factories, and the most valuable thing is this. we are your children who love you, tired, exhausted, but we dream of seeing you successful and happy, because in reality we are strong