the telethon will continue. i want to tell you that you are tired like a mother after a hard day and you don't know if tomorrow will be better because today is so hard. but everything will change. it must change. we, your ukrainian children, will help you. you will become happy, and we will be with you because in you have everything, land, forests, factories, and the most valuable thing is we, your children, who love you , tired, exhausted, but we dream of seeing you successful and happy. because in fact we are strong and we can do everything in the

most terrible times, serve, protect, help . thank you for protecting us, your devotion feels every city we appreciate your support every day together we are approaching victory national police of ukraine two civilians destroying civilian buildings forcibly mobilization kidnapping of civilians rape torturing this is the most serious international crimes that do not have a deadline for the document submit them in a timely manner and correctly submit your testimony photos video physical evidence to the national police of ukraine we will punish the aggressor together, it is painful and scary to see

mariupol destroyed by its natives, the fascists entered the city, and here against me a company with machine guns, they killed everyone this is a day and a horror. and then they came and distributed bread. they feel in danger. the war brings a lot of grief on the one hand, and on the other hand, it reveals so many traits in people. everyone got bogged down even for one saved human life. i think this already gladdens the heart in mariupol, there are guys who do your business . look, there used to be people who lived in chernobyl.

good night to everyone who joins our broadcast. the telethon is the only news. mrs. oleg and olena chabak. we are glad to welcome you, and we will continue the topic of international cooperation, in particular, we will discuss read more about a special meeting that took place in turkey. the director of the us central intelligence agency, william burns, warned the head of the russian foreign intelligence service, sergei nareshkin, about the consequences of russia's use of nuclear weapons. discussed with the final settlement of the conflict in ukraine, however, the publication states that ankara warned ukraine about the trip of the director tsoi in advance and now in touch with us bohdan nagailo, this is a british journalist, diplomat , ex-employee of the united nations good night, sir, we greet you, good evening, everyone

at the meeting knew about this meeting, in fact , it became known about it after the fact, nobody announced these talks in advance today we will find out about it. please tell me why ankara and that message that the united states sent to russia. the reality and the fact that such a meeting took place and that such a messenger was announced to the whole world. so , does moscow want to accept it, admit it or not , yes, if it somehow has to agree with what was said publicly, bohdan, but this meeting with naryshkin, who is actually quite

weak in the russian system, at least from the outside, this is what it looks like in the russian containment system, if it is allowed, what it says about the fact that washington and the special service are looking for another interlocutor or are looking for another opportunity to reach putin's ears no, i think listen to the home audience of biden musa, too, to show that they are preventing, avoiding this danger of a nuclear war, striking ukraine with nuclear weapons, and for them to do this, it is possible that it does not come to that, secondly, do you understand there other moths eh subtexts eh it is very important to the americans that the russians release one of the athletes eh basketball player who keeps talking about it in eh conversations and probably some other

nuances there not only exclusively about ukraine so i think that we should not be so sensitive that predict everything that happens without informing ukraine or the general education of the external that it is somehow suspicious somewhere there, after all, the americans have the right to direct their policy, foreign diplomacy, e . to remind that this was discussed a few days ago in the conversations of mr. jack sullivan, and in fact it is his prerogative of the special services. their work should be quite inconspicuous, and the fact that we have the opportunity to discuss such a meeting today is also not for nothing informational well informational surge yes

to this on to against this meeting here is what is surprising and what attracts attention yes and no, you understand that it is left for someone to make it public the most important thing is what is happening at the balls what is happening at the meeting of the g20 this is so on the periphery but it adds strengthens the american position, they gather that we did not discuss ukraine and the russian war in ukraine, we talked about the nuclear threat of russia's nuclear attack on ukraine, and there was mention of this sportswoman basketball court, and as i said, there are probably other nuances that they don't talk about in detail. i don't know whether there is nuclear disarmament in the future or whether it is possible

to return to the negotiating table in that area. we are more interested in this kind of conversation, what biden said after the meeting with the chinese leader , what is happening in bali, what are the messages of the reports we have in the cream today, and volodymyr zelenskyi has already announced his online speech at the meeting of the heads of state in indonesia, but during his in the evening video address, the president of ukraine called the summit of the group of 20 a summit or 19 we are listening to the president who will talk about this in a few hours in his address to the participants of the g19 summit in indonesia, this is a very important association of states, and even the day before today, important statements were already made, in particular it is important that the united states and

china together noted the inadmissibility of any threats to use nuclear weapons . to this union of the russian federation no, it's not like that it's just very skillfully said that er russia remains totally almost isolated i say almost because some asian countries and the chinese still er support russia actively or passively but de facto it is isolated she is not a big seven and de facto she does not have the voice that she had in the big 20s and the fact that lavrov will appear there and he will be ignored already shows that russia has lost this influence or that status she

had until now and the president of ukraine very aptly said this half-joking, you know, no one will throw it out, but if you listen to the roads and pikeperch, for example , the prime minister of great britain, who in his column on the eve of his trip to indonesia already called russia a country and an outcast. what do you think ? maybe most countries will join him at the summit. is it possible for all the participants, is there such a possibility, dear host, well, even if the majority does not change anything, there will be less that will support the russian presence, as we have de facto in the united nations voting today also in support of ukraine and in relation to the reparations applied by russia, the majority votes in support of ukraine, and less remains the

minority that supports russia actively or not actively and the same in the security council. i have already said that russia is more isolated than ever in recent years since the cold war, there was no such situation, this is the main message. and whether indonesia, china or others support it, it changes the essence of the matter that russia remains an outcast of the international systems the relationship with russia is recorded somewhere so that lavrov remembers it when he returns to moscow no, i don't think it can be foreseen we don't even know if there will be a joint press release and this is what the

conversation is about, you understand, we don't know how deep these disagreements will be the very fact that the west and its supporters have taken such a firm position is not the first time, this is not the first time. you don't know us i am surprised that the prime minister of britain said that he planned it himself, for example, president macron's statement today that in his meeting with the negotiations, as a leader, he will emphasize the need to put pressure on russia in relation to its war against ukraine, this is important these are the

signals that are more important than the more ceremonial ones. you know the general things that happen all the time. please tell me what signals and what messages you received after the meeting with biden and the sit-down party. what is the most important thing that you heard and for myself and for the international community, i heard that the leaders of america and china met for the first time, and there is a huge tension between them, not only political , economic, etc. what is behind the scenes, from what we know, biden appealed to the leader of china that listen, this is a threat not only to us in

the west, it is a threat to you too, and let's be smart and put this russia in its place, that's the main thing, that's what they told me then about disharmony the use of nuclear weapons well, it is elementary that the two leaders of such two nuclear states who do not want to allow a nuclear conflict, because it is the end of us all, if this happens to china and america, not only in ukraine and russia, had a process to remember the truth. so, the main thing for me is that it has fueled isolation again it was a terrible trick for russia. it seems to putin that he met with xi and biden, you know, and he was not there. look at these shots where they shake hands, how was it perceived in the kremlin? i think it was very, very difficult for them.

swallow well, actually, they had to swallow it because they didn't go to the level of the leaders themselves. bohdan, but actually what biden said is that we will compete but we are not going to be at war with china. this is really a serious message to the world, yes, about that. that they intend to come to an agreement in the near future and come to an agreement on the key issues, can we really say that the tension between china and america after this meeting will decrease a little prematurely, but there are signs that you are hinting that the process may be starting after all it's good that they met, it's a start, we'll see how it will develop further, but the very fact that biden agreed and his interlocutors from the chinese

side is already a very positive signal. it makes it possible to simply approach in a different way instead of in such a direct confrontation, to find some common points , where is it possible, where to agree, well, at the moment, the main issue is taiwan and this economic competition between america and china, but there is also the ukrainian factor. i think that china does not want to see that ukraine destroys russia, you understand, it would be beneficial for russia to weaken washington's international position and show that initially in february,

march of this year, but when they saw where it was going and where we are, caligula in moscow is brandishing nuclear weapons and everything else. this is obviously a different situation and he is losing positions not only in kherson but in another region. but on the other hand , it is beneficial to china. you understand that it will not be cheaper. chinese levers are stronger. does russia want to ? does not want doomed to become a vassal of china after 5-10-15

years of economic, political, and political science. around which we can agree where we can tell the americans and the chinese, let's be reasonable, let 's not scratch you too much so that in relation to ivan, let's find some modus vivendi regarding our economic competition and we need to put that russia in finally back to your place thank you mr. mr. bohdana for being with us, we will remind the audience bohdan nagailo bri and the journalists diplomat that the g20 summit in indonesia starts today on the 15th and will last there for two days on november 15-16. and we remind you that during the summit online will address international leaders and the president of the country, volodymyr zelenskyi, this will take place already on tuesday, that is, today, and the topic of russia. of course, this will be one of the key topics of discussion at the 20-week summit. well, while we are talking

about another e-e in another context about russia vladimir putin allowed the commander of the russian troops serhiy surovykin to leave kherson only on one condition if he captures the entire donetsk region this was reported in the american institute for the study of war. believe that such a decision by putin is explained by the increase in the intensity of russian offensive operations, first in the bakhmut region and then in the ugledar region russia's opening actions in donbass became more active due to the arrival of mobilized soldiers who were taken out of the kherson region, at the same time experts write that ukraine will return the combat power of western kherson and will deploy it to other areas both for defensive and counteroffensive operations, therefore the russians are unlikely to achieve significant operational success despite renewed efforts sergey garage chief editor of the publication

ostrov is in direct contact with our studio p serhii uh, we welcome you good evening how do you assess this probability uh, what are the american people talking about analysts of the withdrawal of troops from kherson and a certain part of the kherson region in order to strengthen the donetsk direction well, in fact, i think that well, they left because, er, they had no opportunity to be there already. that is, we pushed them away from er there was an exchange for a possible increase in hostilities in donbas, well, it can be assumed. i think that our colleagues , antony, do not know this either in the institute of the magnitude of the war, but the factory, especially, this is really so, because we see that the hostilities there have now intensified, and more moreover, this corresponds to the logic of the guest. putin now

really wants negotiations with ukraine, and he also wants to withdraw from the so-called special military operation, and this can be done without admitting defeat only by really capturing the donetsk region, that is, then he will be able to declare that the goals of the special operation have been completed . let me remind you that he already conducted it at the request of the so -called leaders of the so-called dpr and lpr a-a therefore, it is possible that this fully corresponds to the logic of the actions that we see today in moscow, well, wait . then, according to this logic, all kherson oblast and zaporizhzhia oblast, ah, you understand this according to our logic, today it acts according to its own logic , first of all, and secondly, ah, they started doing what they want, and now they are doing what they can, and of course they will get as much as they the dnipro, unfortunately, allows them, i mean

the river, to keep the occupied territories in the south of ukraine, but in the east, they have also released their military resources, so you say that we are redeploying our military units to the donbas, but and they can now redeploy its military units, moreover, the length of the front line itself, it has decreased, the concentration of the military will now be not the same length of the front line that remains, and of course that in donbas, ah, this will really lead to a greater concentration of russian troops, and fortunately, i think of ours as well of course there will be an increase in hostilities there precisely because of the fact that well, firstly, they were entrenched there much longer than in the south of ukraine , in the kherson region, in zaporizhzhia, and secondly, because ah, i have had you for 8 years, in fact, they there strengthened, yes, and secondly, it really corresponds to the logic that putin must somehow get out

while keeping his own, we do not know what is in putin's head and what logic he is guided by, but from our side it looks a little illogical, because first of all, illegal referendums on the accession of kherson oblast in particular and the city of kherson then talked about the fact that kherson is forever with russia and here he so easily allowed russian troops to leave kherson in exchange for the fact that a new offensive phase will begin in donetsk region, how can he explain this to his electorate in russia even from the weather forecast kherson they removed uh, you know. i think that it is not easy, but he had to go for it because if he did not go for it, these troops would have been simply destroyed there and then it would have been a defeat. now, today, i literally read and analyzed the russian media, they are submitted as a strategic plan, yes, as a tactical move, what a great putin, wise putin, there are rubas in order to later destroy this ukraine, and

so on, and if these military units that were there really died there. and i will remind you that it was and summer also yes, that is, a-and landing units of a of course, it was already a clear defeat for putin and he could not go for it, so here, of the two, as they say , evil was chosen, well, the least. well, you said about the elite troops. and i would like to remind you of the following information: vladimir putin ordered the demobilization of students from the so-called ldr press secretary dmytro piskov told about this. putin noted that it is necessary to organize the return of students to their places of study, but let me remind you that a few days before the start of a full-scale war in ukraine, the so-called ldr announced a general mobilization, then tens of thousands were sent to the front men, including students, local residents talked about roundups on the streets of populated areas and the search for conscripts in apartments, how it is correlated on the one hand with elite military

units, on the other hand with students from the people's republic of ukraine who, in principle, cannot hold weapons, they do not understand what they are for well , unfortunately, today they probably already know how to hold weapons, because since february, how many months have passed, all this time they were actually forced to fight, and what putin is saying today well, first of all, let me to say how many of them are left. we don't know, but their official statistics say that out of 3,000, it seems that more than 200 are gone, that's what they say in their mass media. they are being beaten at this time. we also don't know, but putin really couldn't help but react. we know that there was an open appeal to him from the mothers of the students, and they quite reasoned about

whether russia or donetsk is now russia, and they reminded about it to putin, and he also has it to comply with russian legislation according to russian legislation . to be honest, i did not understand why they should be oppressed if they were officially mobilized and officially surprised so that there would be no such

dissatisfaction . who are now there and who are also adults among yes the draft age is suitable for someone and they are now calming down, they will be there later they will be able to be mobilized already on legal grounds, so to speak. and now they run from there yes look at the kilometer long queues and at the border well now as they say at the administrative border and this is but for us it is to the state border yes ukraine with russia on the donetsk and luhansk e directions yes on these sections the e queues are very long people think that they over there, in the territory of the great so-called russia, they will be able to simply hide from the same violent mobilization a-a, young people are moving there a-a. i think that this is just such a move by putin can calm them down, convince them that it is okay to stay where they are, so

by the way, this is now touching on mr. sergiu. and the story of when the women, the wives or mothers of the mobilized men, went on foot to the ukrainian territory, yes, to the russian territory in order to take their husbands . well, maybe it will be, but i don’t think that it will be open, that is, public, that is, i think that they can really spend with them and there will be grounds in principle a-a, because this is the crossing of the state border, after all, a-a, that is, they can to spend there are some conversations there, the so-called mgb in these republics, but i don’t think that it will be a-a in the information field at all dispersed by some official reaction of the kremlin. for example, we will now talk about the crimes of the russian military on the territory of ukraine, but before that, let me remind you that in fact the russian military can save their lives if they surrender to the armed forces of ukraine,

which guarantee compliance with the geneva convention and they will return the russian soldiers home alive and unharmed. and now about russian crimes tanker received 12 years in prison for shelling ukrainians in mariupol, it was established that as the operator of the gunner of the t-72 tank, this man explained at least 20 shots at residential high-rise buildings in mariupol. this is reported by the security service of ukraine . at the end of april, the occupiers managed to capture near the village of ninopil in donetsk region, then the armed forces of ukraine they knocked out his tank, the wounded invader was taken prisoner, it was established that the man joined the militants of the so-called dnr in the 14th year , he was a machine gunner, a shooter, he had a relationship to the so-called police, serhii is 12 years old like me - this is not such a significant punishment for the crimes he committed on the territory of mariupol but nevertheless , can this be a kind of precedent in

relation to other militants in the occupied territories for the russian military and is it possible it will somehow change their attitude towards this war. well, unfortunately, i think it will definitely not change their attitude, because they are more afraid of russian prisoners than ukrainian ones. is someone about the fact that there is a fight for the russian so-called yes , and someone about e 200,000 rubles of rubles that they are promised in general for the fact that they are fighting there and er punishment for everything is included in their logic simply because i think that unfortunately er that death is worse, i think. yes, maybe what can await them there, what a-a conviction in ukraine 12