we will figure it out after the war and we can't figure it out after the war because the church is an er a participant in this process, an active participant in this process, what is taken for granted is perceived by people and if they are preaching peace peace peace give us a breather russia there is the end of this war why these churches do not pray for victory, they all pray for peace, i understand, they really reproduce these, you know, christian requirements that jesus christ bequeathed and he was a great peacemaker, but let's somehow know to be in the context of those political events that are happening. we are not only members of the church , we are also citizens of ukraine, over which a terrible danger has loomed. i call for a conscious attitude and your life as a conscious attitude to your faith, to the

church we go to, to the priests who preach to us that you are silent like sheep. to say the word and there are 700 or so communities in ukraine, so these communities found the courage to tell their priest we don't want to belong to this church, i'm not calling now for some, you know , divisions, was uh, to the point or to some kind of revolution look, now we are showing the video, you are actually from chernivtsi, this is bukovyna, a village, or a ring, or actually people wanted to go to the police station, and they wanted to put a ukrainian flag on the church, but the police didn’t give it to them, and here’s how to be in such situations, what to do . i'll tell you this: i called on the state to act, the police are one of the

instruments of the state, yes, they are all state officials, they receive money from our taxes, there are various ways to resist, but what you know is that it penetrated into all absolutely steps power and the fact that there are no people in the supreme power who support such a policy of this church and the crowd that they are not in the garden means that it is necessary to cleanse both the power and the government and the supreme, even more so on the ground, to cleanse from those people who forbid to act according to the law, it is necessary act according to the law. so, as experts, we have even developed special methodological instructions on how to properly and legally transfer, how to draw up documents, and then the government cannot deny people’s wishes because they are

hired by us, you know. don't touch them, they don't ask me to be in a special state , but no, she was born in our country, we have to express our voice , we have all the rights, they belong to these generals, or let's say sergeants of the national police, i treat them with great respect, they have done a lot and will surely do something, but in this situations they have to protect not the church but the citizens because because in the end please wait for the wishes of those who want not to belong to the ukrainian orthodox church. we also subscribe . of philosophical sciences, a professor from another department of philosophy and the history of religions , hryhoriy skovoroda institute of philosophy of the national academy of sciences of ukraine. by the way, a professor from the national university of kyiv-mohyla academy was on our air. well, i will remind you that espresso, together with the public association dream of action junior, is gathering

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now talk about this and actually talk about why the e-e accreditations for journalists from abroad and for our journalists were canceled and why some s- first went to kherson and others only later serhii tomilenko, head of the national union of journalists of ukraine and otar dovzhenko, media expert , media trainer and editor-in-chief, media detector , together with us, andriy by the way, i just wanted to add to what i wrote yuriy butusov about the fact that the film crew that was deprived of accreditation on the same day, by coincidence or by irony of fate, i don't know, received a prestigious award from the international broadcasting association for precisely covering the war in ukraine. here was some kind of thanks from the ministry of defense. on the same day , eh gentlemen, what do you think about this story with the revocation of accreditation? let's start with mr. serhii. he is more than us if we were the official official

voice . good morning, colleagues. instead of the emphasis on the importance of journalists and the fact that with a single voice the military authorities and the media community celebrate the courage of journalists and the fact that the national and international media really risk their lives and are driven by a certain professional excitement of course, but the key thing that drives journalists is the desire to serve to your audience and to report, in particular, historical , here are these important events from the war, we are actually historical victorious news from kherson, so instead of all of us with one voice celebrating this the professional contribution of journalists of the entire community. and we considered how we can all facilitate the work of journalists. now we are discussing this shameful deprivation of accreditation and, accordingly, for today, in fact

. to admit that this decision is probably wrong, despite the fact that there are certain protocols and requirements for accreditation, but it is obvious that there are already almost 10,000 issues of accreditation military certificates well, they are difficult to administer and, accordingly, we should not turn into a country that so harshly administers the work of journalists that it actually deprives journalists of their right to work and in this way deprives the audience of access to information, sir, what did you see in this story, i saw in a ridiculous enough situation in some direction i mean by power the military command turned out to be behind their handcuffs i don't know their ambitions or desire let

's say to demonstrate their ability to influence media because in fact the depriving of accreditation was already a consequence and went on social networks, i.e. first they started talking about it on social networks and what is this, why is it that some people work in kherson and others were not allowed there, and then the military command started a demonstrative advice about the demonstrative punishment, i have a question about what i am writing. that is, we are punishing these malicious media, for example, the malicious news producer azasad safarov, who has been working in ukraine in the ukrainian media for decades, has made a bunch of high-quality documentaries about the war, so that he is more didn't go anywhere without permission so that he wouldn't talk about ukraine anymore, well, it's without service, it's like they

say, you shot yourself in the foot. is it so that others get scared next time and don't go somewhere? well, then, uh, in principle, we have to understand that if foreign media and ukrainian media are afraid to do their work, then we will not have the story about ukrainian defense and the liberation of ukrainian lands that we really want, in the huge pile of discussions in which i participated, it was constantly heard that the world is indifferent to ukraine the media are starting to talk less about ukraine, fewer correspondents are coming here and so on. but without this struggle, it is definitely not necessary to deprive the correspondents of the world media of their accreditation. another matter is that the military must obviously develop a system in which journalists sometimes need

to transmit information quickly and efficiently. don't go anywhere. because there is danger yes, but journalists are such people, they are sometimes exposed to danger because of this, they die enough of us already. many journalists, including foreign ones, have died in the course of time of the great war and these are people who know what they are risking in their work, so one way or another they will look for ways to show the most important, most important events, well, this is their profession, if ukraine were to react now, because ukrainian journalists are used to some such e- unfortunately, some give accreditation to such people, then they select them, then they let them in, then they don’t let them in. foreign journalists are still used to other rules of the game. well, if ukraine had freedom now, in principle, our number is not

a surprise. he is really a ukrainian and i am with i have the honor of being acquainted with him, i worked with him on the fifth channel. well, this is still the same question. it should have been communicated. the granting of accreditation and the withdrawal of accreditation is a public punishment. here you are now, mr. atari, so i think that the articulation should be restored at least and and no longer apply public revocation of accreditation, that is, there were cases when foreign journalists were deprived of accreditation and even deported to ukraine for repeated attempts, for example, to show military facilities, there was some scandalous story with some in a dutch journalist who threatened something came again and eventually deported him , but it seems to me that ukraine should

build relations with the media as an institution, and sian news is a large world institution with an audience of many, many millions, if not you suits how these journalists act, in principle, it should not be a problem for the communicators of the ministry of defense to contact this media, express their comments to them and say that please next time, children, something different public beating and depriving of accreditation is a rather senseless measure. i think that it should of course be curtailed, and together with the media people, the media movement actually appealed to the authorities, together with the media people, to make it understandable without unnecessary bureaucracy, without such a thing that you stand in front of a roadblock for three days and wait until you and the team. and what are they commanding on this particular day? well, everyone had a suspicion that because the authorities wanted

the president to be the main character in the first stories from kherson, in principle, this is also human, it can be understood, but it contradicts the needs of the dog audience of the media who want to see the liberators of kherson and the liberated people in kherson, and not the solemn president, this is the moment he actually is. maybe it even weighs more than the deprivation of accreditation, because if there really was a story with the barring of ukrainian journalists only because they were initially supposed to be there to appear in official reports about zelenskyi's visit. i don't know, mr. serhii, how this correlates with the values ​​of ukraine as a democratic state, well, of course , this is already such a political issue, and today, of course, officially, we do not receive any comments or recognition that politics is behind all of this. but at the same time, i agree that if it has already been

publicly announced that the revocation of accreditation went and the government went to such a certain official , some public scandals and with authoritative ukrainian and foreign media, here it is also necessary to publicly organize and uh, accordingly well, some such countermeasure and show civility in front of i think that it would be best to invite or from here these journalists who were deprived because again, we constantly see that this is all our authoritative colleagues, who are really at the forefront of the information field, are in charge of informing about hot events, and accordingly, the communicators could openly negotiate with them and, accordingly, receive this feedback regarding the working of some such amendments, a more neutral format could be used. after all, we have the government itself and the president he gave state awards as a soldier to representatives of many national tv channels to photojournalists of international

media, that is, in fact, if officially the state authorities awarded him with medals for courage for coverage under during the current aggressive occupation war of the rc against ukraine, there are already several dozens of media people there, so invite them and, accordingly, also feel with them, because in fact they are warlords there, natalya nagorna or stanislav yurchenko, what is it, or there are other authoritative ones, i recently had a group of polish media, so let’s go let it still be a ball in the government's court, but it is still necessary to confirm the recognition that journalists perform a certain important public mission, not a service one, they exclusively cover where necessary ordered certain coverage by those who control this or that location by gentlemen who are actually foreign

journalists who were deprived of accreditation who covered the liberation of kherson and made these inclusions that the whole world saw, was there any reaction from them or foreign journalists, are they actually ukrainian foreign journalists this is how we approached them, they refused to comment in principle, this is reasonable enough because, again, they represent major international media here, and they do not comment on behalf of these media authorized, for example, to conflict with the ukrainian authorities. this is absolutely none of their business. i think that they also hope that, um, this misunderstanding will be liquidated, canceled, as everyone hopes for it now, not publicly, we communicated with everyone , but they are confused. they do not understand why. because in principle, they do their job. yes,

they come to a place where you can shoot a story. it is clear that when, for example, there is a military object or movement in the background, or something like that, they can have complaints. but it was kherson, where people were happy, hugged, kissed peaceful people again, these videos became a certain symbol, a certain meme that spread all over the world, and how kherson welcomes the ukrainian army and how could these filmings harm the country, except for the fact that there is again no there was zelenskyi in this video, i can’t imagine, in other words, it would be in everyone ’s interests to roll back the situation and start the conversation again with a slightly less categorical, aggressive note in order to agree on how to act in a situation when

the military on one side really the ministry of defense explained this situation that there may be changes, there may be some disguised muscovites, er, there may be some collaborators there who need to be cleaned out, that is, battles may take place and journalists have nothing to do there, if journalists come to the front line, where is the island, then they too are at risk precisely because of that, for sure we need to have this conversation in a slightly different way, this interaction of the case, in fact, this brings us back to a broader conversation for which we no longer have time, and i think that it is worth it today, in principle, about the rules of the game as here just now one of our viewers wrote in the chat of this broadcast on youtube that there is no need to stretch the civil laws and rules regarding journalism and the media in wartime on the

one hand i agree with this on the other hand it is the mission of journalistic work it requires risks in that including risks in life, and this is part of this profession, and i always remember here the same evan wright, an american journalist and reporter who passed as part of an intelligence group of american marines in the war invasion of iraq, together with the americans, literally wrote his reports under fire, and so at the beginning he simply signed documents that he was ready to die during this mission of his conditional hercules, but this is part of the profession, and it seems to me that the truth is more important than the propagandistic propaganda history and which is treated very carefully by the ukrainian authorities, now i don't know what you will agree with me, well, my opinion is this . thank you, gentlemen, by the way, again, people

do not understand what media is. thank you. it was serhiy tomilenko, head of the national union of journalists of ukraine and otar dovzhenko, media expert, media trainer , editor-in-chief - media detector. why does someone write media if there is a smartphone? listen, the news appears on the smartphone because there are journalists present and they actually are. explain them sometimes uncomfortable questions are asked, e-e-age in the smartphone, the question is whether it will be behind this a person who checks this information and with his reputation you certify that it is true, unconfirmed, unverified, or someone specifically launches something or someone simply launches on his official pages, well, on social networks, in some information that he wants to voice but does not want to answer uncomfortable questions. look, if you comment on something i do not know, on the page of the president, he will not answer all your questions, he will choose those that he likes more, and not him, but specifically a group of people who work on this page let's go further here, too, about what

we already talked about why the sbu suddenly became interested in the dovzhenko center, but for example , it is not interested in, but it is not interested in kherson, there is a dovzhenko center with us at communication ms alyona good morning, it's interesting from the situations around dovzhenka center for those viewers, no one knows the impact of hostages on the security services, just a clip twice and we will know yes, we clip well, just once, let's hope that everything is fine in handcuffs, i go to work and but we will read the sea today we will definitely wait for ukraine because like last week they said that they had not finished everything, that's all, your position is that you will no longer allow this designated state cinema, this hypnotist and cynologist, that is, a dog specialist

this lady, you don't let her into the territory of the dovzhenka center... we can't let her in purely officially , because she... the order on her appointment is not registered, that is, legally, she has not assumed authority and she is not an acting official there . in the language of this order, it has not yet been registered by the state registrar and therefore we have full rights not to let her in and to ask what her plans are for the dovzhenko center and well, yes, well, we are ready to open on the first floor and once again ask what they are planning do if you are any ms. alyona's figurines are for people who are not very familiar with anya's cinema theme, anya's canine theme , which has now arisen around the dovzhenko center and around the ukrainian a-a cinema and cultural space is connected with the dovzhenko center, why did the sbu

suddenly become interested in such a structure as the dovzhenko center who was engaged in what she was engaged in storing and er ukrainian cinema what else was important was dovzhenko doing at the center why did it suddenly become so interesting and why was the cynologist appointed to lead this structure er well actually here a few a-a a few stories have come together a-a but i think that this is not a coincidence everywhere that there right now a-a sbu allegedly joined the case which was opened back in 2020 a-a regarding the previous eye officer a-a national center of oleksandr dovzhenko ivan kozlenko they are looking, well, the reason is that they are looking for documents related to the activities of ivan kozlenka and the potato workers, but for some reason they took away a flash drive with

accounting documents . our seal, ah, it's so very strange. and this arrival of the sbu really coincided with the one with the new appointment as acting director. literally the second day, when the team did not allow her to the workplace, they came to and for some reason decided to renew this case ah, that's all it began to raise some points when it all began, well, such an acute phase from the end of august, when the dovzhenko center, the dovzhenko center, received an order for its reorganization in essence, but the liquidation of the dovzhenko center, because one integral institution that was engaged in the study of preservation and popularization of ukrainian cinema has the origin of the order of work divided into three separate legal

entities. and the entire collection of the dovzhenko center, the entire film fund is films and digital m-m companies on digital media should be transferred to some unknown organizations that have not had any activity since 2011. there is no website. there are no actual people who worked. no one knows about them, their activities, but for some reason you go to the cinema, they decided that they would better take care of the cinema heritage, the animation heritage and the rights to animated films should be transferred to the newly created state studios of ukraine held a round table discussion with leading animators, directors , producers, and festival organizers. they also invited representatives of the ministry of culture together with the state cinema, unfortunately they did not come, and we talked with people from the profession about how appropriate it is

to talk at all now about the state e-e hmm about the state animation studio and they all said that it was a utopia and that it really is impossible to create now in the conditions of war, and all the more so that it should be so quickly well, such a lot of preparatory work was carried out, and with them as with people, those who are now winning at festivals with their films and actively working in this field, no one consulted, no one consulted, but for some reason, now i have such an urgent need to divide and actually, dovzhenko remains this is ours hearts without our collection it is impossible to do this because we do some events or our programs and based on studying our collection therefore, this is essentially a source of research selected for us well, we stay there with our debts and dedicate it to the fact that in six months

the dovzhenko center, well, apart from that, will simply die. this is the situation. this order about the organization began in august, after which it was allegedly confirmed by the feasibility of the organization and the inspection that was carried out, although it was carried out with violations and i, i, you know, i will allow myself ms. alyona mr. mrs. alyona is like this now the sbu has gone and is still checking the activities of the previous director, allegedly under the pretext hello ms. alyona, i am literally two i will add words, you know, six years ago we made a material about the dovzhenko center, in which he was the last, and so on. i can definitely see that there is now, it is necessary to edit this material, i would like

everyone to rewatch it. go to my page, i now have it i'm moving on to the story of ivanko zlenko - this was one of the first public competitions for the position of director, he won it, there was not even a law on public competitions, it was experimental, in fact, and so on in the 14th year. it seems that this is a person who showed his incredible for the joy of the person who pulled this center out of the ruins from millions of debts, who made it out of some simple, i don't know, old soviet wreckage , he made it into some kind of effective center where a lot of events took place recently, actions where fresh blood came, young people. this is a person who should actually be now, for example, in the position of minister of culture because he has proven his effectiveness as a manager and has renewed his devotion to ukrainian culture . i pretended to be engaged in the russification of ukraine as

a media manager of one of the oligarchs. and it’s just like that. well, some blatant injustice, and the appointment of this dog trainer, i’ll just say it for you, ms. alyona, it’s a slap in the face to the cinematographic community in ukraine as a whole, and you are just poor -spirited people who are behind it. but you will not succeed mrs. alyona, we are with you ukraine i believe that we support and monitor this because it is something that cannot be let down, something that cannot be forgiven and something that cannot be presented to this government in particular and any others, even from the petition that you have 5,000 signatures and from the action that took place on saturday and hundreds of people came to support dovzhenko in the center, and this is what keeps us motivated and does not give us the opportunity to give up or let this matter go because we feel that our work is needed, we feel some kind of global

mission to preserve some heritage and also maybe more local that it is needed now, people need ukrainian cinema research, our discoveries and hmm this is what keeps us going and we hope that and in the future we will do this, and that is why we actually keep this topic on the pulse, we monitor it . thank you, ms. alyona. a fresh selection of news anna eva melnyk is ready and will tell us what has happened there in recent years