tv [untitled] November 15, 2022 10:30pm-11:01pm EET
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the war in ukraine will continue. well, i think it is obvious now that polish society in general takes this event very seriously. is happening well, it is indeed a provocation but nevertheless it is absolutely planned and for example, the contingent that is in belarus today, which is now being reinforced by the russian federation, according to various estimates, it is calculated not only for that to attack ukraine, including as an option for a future confrontation, including with poland as one of the countries of the future attack, so there may be different situations here. but nevertheless, it is obvious that nato is currently provoking a certain false start of events. we will watch right here it's interesting for the official position, because it's clear that if they
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start talking about the fifth article of the washington treaty right now, some hungary will immediately jump out and start saying that, no , you can't talk about that at all. of course, the security status must be gradually raised here, it is obvious that now they will first try to use the fourth article of the north atlantic treaty and gather consultations . of the russian federation, it will fall apart, a joke of course, but here is an interesting point in that, you know, poland can now use this incident to its advantage because we know that , first of all, it is this country. and today, most of
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nato countries, except for the united states, are updating the armament of their own army and making huge purchases . to actually share nuclear weapons. that's what it's called new clear cherry, and if before poland was completely involved in this, well, they said that it was. well, it's possible too soon, then after the events. an attack by a state possessing nuclear weapons can change the position of the united states, including the united states, regarding the location of these nuclear weapons on the territory of poland.
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because we often use it. maybe someone else needs to explain that when we talk about the fifth article , which is so secret and important, we are talking about the fact that the parties agree that an armed attack on one or several of them in europe or north america will be considered an attack on all of them, respectively, they agree that in the event of such an attack , each of them, exercising their legal right to individual and collective self-defense, confirmed by article 51 of the united nations charter, will provide assistance to the party or parties that were attacked and will immediately carry out individually, individually or jointly with other parties, such actions as are considered necessary, including the use of armed force in order to restoration and preservation of security in the north atlantic region. well, every such armed attack and all measures taken in connection with it will be immediately reported to the un security council, such measures will be stopped after the security council
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has already taken the necessary measures to restore and maintain international peace and security is the fifth article, the fourth, much shorter, the parties will consult each other whenever, in the opinion of any of them, there is a threat to territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the parties, i.e. no such practical solutions rather, mr. igor, in the meantime, we are receiving messages from the us state department, it is important for the united states to determine whether the fall of missiles in poland was an accident or a deliberate action well, actually, i am talking about this and just how this is to be qualified as an armed attack , whether or not the fifth article went on, so we know that the polish prosecutor's office is working at the scene of the incident , and that the discussion is going on at the highest level. equal to that, of course. next, we will expect the
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official position, but you know. we can even wait for a reaction, for example, in the direction of holding the next rammstein for ukraine, because this very topic can become an additional strengthening of our positions and the transfer of more weapons what will be discussed in the united states, if i'm not mistaken , will now be the next rammstein, and of course we can even get some profit from it, but this in no way means that we somehow we approve of what happened, because really reading the propagandists of the russian federation now, it is obvious that it all happened as planned, just as planned, it happened today, first, a few days after poland's independence day, to show that, well, it's as if russia is doing certain attacks on its independence well, and secondly, of course
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, in the course of those massive missile strikes on ukraine , eh, on the eve of the first cold weather, when the energy system of our country, eh, can send the question of what to do next, and therefore, and therefore poland, which today, it holds the largest number of ukrainian refugees on its territory, and it can get even more. well, let's say this pressure, and here, in fact, the russian federation gives such a complex, you know , hello to the poles. and i would like the poles to have an official warsaw anyway. nato is not in line, but they were able to give a decent answer because some moments in modern polish-russian history, such as the smolensk tragedy, already show that relations between the two countries were already on the verge of war, but this did not happen.
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what is happening now certainly exceeds all reasonable limits, mr. igor, you already mentioned the seventh rammstein. it is supposed to take place tomorrow , november 16th, and we see that before this rammstein such an event took place. at tomorrow's rammstein, issues related to military aid in ukraine and this meeting will be virtual. the secretary of defense of the united states of america will be chaired by lloyd austin, and it is obvious that this order, which was announced, will be changed in connection with what is happening, what happened in poland because it doesn't matter if it was an armed attack and they accidentally flew these rockets there in this situation that is developing in europe in ukraine there is absolutely no significance what do you think, can we expect tomorrow according to the results of rammstein the seventh of some decisions or at least some
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sharp statements on the part of the north atlantic alliance, taking into account the fact that russia simply grossly violates all international rules, all laws, in general, all agreements and what happened today, well, this is a vivid example of that, because even if there a random rocket flew in. well, it’s not your fault that today they launched more than 100 missiles on the territory of the ukrainian state. relatively, such harsh statements can really sound from the postin . but it will be virtual , accordingly, more applied decisions are expected regarding the further support of ukraine in the course of the russian-ukrainian war here the question is whether they will provide us with more types of weapons
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which question we ask, but we are always refused . for example, it's the same. there are large eagle attack drones from the united states, because now there is news that they can be simplified in a certain way so that ukraine can use them on the battlefield, but it was not of risks е there, the transfer of technologies to the enemy is possible here there will be certain е-е strengthening, well, that is, we will see a certain acceleration of this process a-а we may see an acceleration in relation to long-range weapons and of course, the topic of providing us weapons to fight the carpenters, so i think that of course the seventh rammstein he is right in the direction of these recent events. i think that he will bring the most benefit than my house and asks the congress for 37.7 billion
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dollars to help ukraine, of which 21 and 7/10 billion are for weapons 4.5 for the government well, we understand that we absolutely need this money to cover our budgetary expenses, including 626 million for energy, i think that this figure is no longer relevant due to today's missile attack and 900 million for health care in any if it is interesting to how much can change for tomorrow and can the planned change at all? these are the key moments at rammstein, let's understand that people are gathering according to a specific agenda and how much they are... well, let's say that they are ready to make corrections to this agenda in connection with the information space that is constantly are filling up, this applies in fact right here, groups of 20, as for me, because today’s is the 19th. yes, thank you very appropriately, mr. serhiy remarked, it’s the 19th, because
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today, president zelenskyi had a speech there was a strong speech, frankly speaking, and then missile strikes, and it seems to me that it would be very appropriate if the leaders of these countries had the opportunity to talk about it and discuss it and possibly resort to some concrete solutions. the next guest is mr. igor. we thank you very much for this inclusion. we are waiting for the actual development of events. well, we understand that today , not only poland is facing a challenge on the territory hit by missiles, but not only ukraine, which, unfortunately, traditionally suffers from missile terrorism but the north atlantic alliance is also facing a challenge, which must in a certain way generally demonstrate how important it is in the world security system, this is so if volodymyr omelyan is already in touch, diplomat, serviceman
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of the armed forces of ukraine, volodymyr, good evening , good evening, you can hear us, volodymyr there are some problems with communication, this is not surprising, because there is a real problem with electricity supply and communication in ukraine today. the opportunity to join the broadcast, we actually have a new address of president zelensky in part . sergey, you have already relayed it to our tv viewers, and if we could listen to it now, it would be very appropriate, so and so, zelensky will be here now, and we are listening to a total of 90 cancers , the energy system of enterprises, residential buildings and when it happened as soon as the first
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day ended in indonesia, it was here that twenty of the most notable statements were made, the main meetings took place, russia is talking about peace, and it is firing a missile in response, they say about global crises that you will diffuse caused and she iranian drones in response to her 10 points to end the war and she has 10 missiles each point about peace was sung at four in the morning today i joined the summit to present our proposals on how to restore peace and international order the world heard ukraine participants of g19 made their statements and then in moscow they decided that they could try again with terror to achieve what they could not and would not be able to do until 15:24 until 15 hours 24 minutes . in
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kirovohrad oblast 15:56 rocket zhytomyr oblast and also frankiv oblast rivne oblast kharkiv oblast 16:29 rocket krivy - 16:29 rocket poltava oblast 16:35 again zhytomyr oblast kyiv oblast lviv oblast odesa oblast mykolaiv oblast and also volyn khmelnytskyi ternopil oblast and again kyiv killed wounded people my condolences to relatives in many cities and regions of our country again emergency power outages, about 10 million ukrainians without electricity, most of them, as of this minute, in kharkiv oblast, zhytomyr oblast, kyiv oblast, lviv oblast, lviv and some other cities suspended the supply of heat throughout the country , problems with communication and the internet as a result of the strikes, automation today turned off several
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nuclear units at two stations, these are calculated consequences and the enemy knew exactly what he was doing, here is the answer from russia for indonesia, india, china and all other countries that talked about that the war must be ended, russia is telling the world that it wants to continue, the answer is now for the world, even more so, today happened what we warned about a long time ago, we talked about it, terror is not limited to our across state borders is already spreading to the territory of moldova, and today russian missiles hit poland on the territory of our friendly country, people were killed. please accept the condolences of all ukrainian brothers, how many times has ukraine spoken about the fact that our country is bordered by a terrorist state, poland, the baltic states - it is a matter of time. when in russian terror has moved on. it is necessary to put the
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terrorist in his place, the longer russia feels impunity, the more threats there will be to everyone whom russian missiles can reach, hit with missiles on the territory of nato, this is a russian missile, yes, in terms of collective security, this is a very significant escalation , we need to act. i want to say now to all our polish brothers and sisters, ukraine always supports you, free people, terror will not break, victory is possible when there is no fear, you and i want to thank all partners who help protect the sky in particular worked well today we have nasambs systems with ten launches 10 hits as of this hour shot down more than 70 missiles 10 strike drones i thank all our american and european friends, who helps us to ensure such a result. thank you to all our soldiers of the air
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command , south, center, east and west. we will restore everything russia opposes itself to the world russia will lose on the battlefield russia is terrorizing us and everyone it can reach we will do everything to stop it glory to all who protects freedom. glory to all who work for our victory, eternal memory to all, whether terrorists took their lives. glory to ukraine. dear ukrainians , today the enemy has been defeated. thank you, president of ukraine volodymyr
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zelenskyi . the territory of our country and fell into the territory of a nato country. well, it seems to me that another smear on the picture will be the fact that yesterday in poland new facilities were opened for repair and service f16 in bydgoszcz against the background of the actual photos that were taken at the opening of this facility, you can see the bodywork and it seems to me that it is somehow symbolic, so all the statements already summarized by the state department of the united states of america regarding the incident in poland appeared so, the united states of america is ready to stand by the fan's allies, but does not yet want to discuss hypothetical scenarios for the united states of america to determine whether the downing of a missile in poland was an accident or an intentional act of the united states the united states of america does not want to escalate the situation the united states of america is still taking time to
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understand what happened in poland and the united states of america is working with poland and nato partners to gather information about the incident in poland well, of course not if the united states of america gathers this they will say that these were russian missiles, or the poles will say today that literally in an hour there or in an hour and a half, many questions arise then to the air defense of the nato country, how did these missiles get to the territory of poland and in what way the russians were able to break through the anti-aircraft defense of not only the republic of poland but also nato . well, i follow what the russian propagandists write about . during the time of leonid kuchma, they say that, well, the ukrainians
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always said that they could have missed something, but, in this situation, the russians are absolutely determined that we repelled the attack today, a large missile attack by the russian federation, and these missiles flew from east to west and not from west to east, and therefore, in this case, any arguments of the same simanyan and other propagandists that this is not a ukrainian missile because the version from the russians is already circulating, well, these are lying creatures and of course there is no sense to discuss them, but they are a side dish for putin for the shoigut of other leaders of the russian federation who brazenly say that they will do everything in order to fulfill their mission of a special military operation. let me remind you that
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it was two goals, they set denazification and demilitarization khrystyna, are our next guests in touch with us, it will be volodymyr omelyan, a diplomat , a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, mr. volodymyr. we congratulate you serhiy, i welcome you with us oleg pasternak, a political technologist, oleg, we congratulate you, glory to ukraine, yesterday i almost fell out of my eyes this happened to e.e. skabeva with her appearance on russian television on her regular program, where she actually notes that no one expected such a war and that our army is not designed to actually fight with nato, that all 50 countries will fit in for ukraine and everything looks like losing to ukraine , well, it looks very shameful for russian
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propagandists and probably for the russian authorities , that is why some of the analysts noted that russia will try in every way to drag the north atlantic alliance into the conflict, at least somehow, somehow, to create a situation where they do not will not be able to answer and actually then lose to a powerful worthy opponent it will be uh not so worthless p volodymyr how do you look at this version conspiratorially it may be too well, certainly this situation could in this in the context, play in putin's favor because he will have lost crushingly. not ukraine, but nato and then his followers. and only worse people will come to replace the point. you explained that the power of nato broke russia's victorious march to the west . but i think that there will definitely be a different game here. er nato sees the picture of the battle globally yes it sees
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not only russia it sees china and if in the case of russia er its future is already decided, in the case of china there are still discussions about what to do with this country or it potentially in the final case becomes a partner and an adequate negotiator or does it follow russia? let's put it this way, the situation with the polish government will be completely unclear, how they will react, because the united states are used to fighting the kremlin not on their territory, but the missiles fell on the territory of poland and - for poland, the choice is now classic: choose between war or shame in any option. they get this war because we see that the situation is unfolding in a flash and putin will provoke the west in one way or another if the west swallows it now situation, let's call it an accidental fall of russian
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rockets, then the next time a rocket will accidentally fall on warsaw or vilnius, and then the poles will have to react for sure, so now the poles just have to decide what they want to do before these rockets fall on their capital, hit the kremlin, because it is necessary to strike precisely at the kremlin should not limit itself to some half-measures or if they are not ready for this, then we must close the sky over ukraine, which we have long asked for, then we must provide ukraine with long-range missiles, provide f16 and we ourselves let's finish with russia, can eh well, i don't know nato countries eh, in particular, come together to destroy the bases from which russian rockets take off , i'll remind you that today they attacked us from the territory of the caspians with the black sea and in the rostov region more and more often, suitable airfields are used where the aircraft take off from volodymyr. well, in fact, they can hit from vladivostok, the range of their missiles allows it, it will be much more difficult for them to
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do it like that, so i think if such a scenario is taken too much, then it is actually a full-scale war it is much easier to close the airspace, and if russia tries to violate its closure, there will be corresponding strikes on the objects from which these launches are carried out. are these planes air advance or land or sea based ? the fact that russia is trying to stir up a big war with the participation of the north atlantic alliance in order to later say that well, we lost, but we lost to nato, but in this situation it is obvious that the kremlin's owners are calculating in therefore, to seat the representatives of the north atlantic alliance and ukraine and russia, respectively, at the negotiating table in order to show that if russia already signs a peace agreement there, it is
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not signing with ukraine, but with the countries of the north atlantic alliance . in this situation, he expects to expand the circle of these negotiators and prove his word to the electorate that they fought for the north atlantic alliance, but they are forced to sit down at the negotiating table in principle so that there are no victims during the second world war, well, look, we understand that the war waged by the russian federation against ukraine is the first continental war in the conditions of the mass internet, and this means that any actions of the russian federation, they are primarily the biggest battlefield taking place in the pockets of the ruling elites and er ordinary masses of people reacting to these events, you have absolutely correctly emphasized the point
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, let's now give a little history of what putin is doing starting from september 21, he a-a raises rates er special, that is, he tries to show that it is not a hopeless situation of the free, there are some options, excavation in others can answer and this is primarily a hard translator for the information request of the russian society and for the personal retention of power sometime after september 21, especially after the so-called throne coffin success in the st. george's hall of the kremlin when the war was announced in the ukrainian territory he devoted almost all of his to the topic of confrontation with collective action , he will repeat the same on valdai thus, putin has been deliberately trying to change the emphasis for two months from the loss of the war with ukraine on the topic
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of civilizational geopolitical opposition to the west, theoretically there will be no winners or those who will be defeated, therefore, in principle, this information framework is very beneficial for him than to go out and explain certain failures on the fronts in in this case, you know, an extremely powerful internal one that detonates an internal crisis is a blow to the prestigio of the russian federation, just a loss on the fronts with ukraine, and for this he needs incidents, today's incident is a kind of hybrid tool e-e public information delay of poland in confrontation with the russian federation and at
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the same time nato countries and the united states of america, etc. the west is trying to destroy, decommunize, split the russian federation, that they are taking certain steps in the direction of russia, that, etc., this is the first motive , the second motive. it seems that rationally they cannot be perceived as adequate, but they bring the new game to a different level. that is, it can be even a worse level, but in this case it is a different level that does not lead to highlighting the topic of defeat, in fact , what makes it worse when annexes the ukrainian
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territory and in the ukrainian territory integrates into the brothers of the constitution of the russian federation thereby creating a precedent, but then after the loss of the estuary after the loss of the izu after the loss of kherson he does not act or react in any way, that is, do you understand this these are the steps these are his signature handwriting signature speech sane let's test the reaction of nato while we are here j-20 and we will highlight the ability of nato to respond in po po we will demonstrate the frailty of the western reaction we will shift the emphasis of the change in ukraine to a war with a collective measure that has acquired the character of a new cold war and he succeeds in principle. but again, it will be like with kherson, yes. many points and such information spice 21
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