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even before the elections, when trump was not even nominated as a presidential candidate, he made a statement calling on ukraine to recognize the illegal annexation of crimea. and then i criticized it because we do not interfere in the elections in the united states, but i am convinced that world leaders must support world order and i am convinced that we have to rely on the bipartisan support of both democrats and republicans and that the republican party has a very clear vision of what security and global order means and they have to understand that this is not a blank check but an investment in the security of the united states. did you see the recent article in the new york times that talks about ukraine as a battlefield, i don't want to sound cynical, but by helping ukraine, the free world is testing weapons to protect ukraine and how to protect the free world,
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so my message to our american friends and we really we appreciate everything you do for us, you invest in ukraine and in your own security, and this is my message to those who, let's say, deny the importance of helping ukraine with regard to the meeting of the group of twenty, what putin did is not just another a sign of his war of attrition and that he is ready to go further in this war. and further, this is a signal, a signal of humiliation for the president of russia and for prime minister modi at this very time when they are sitting at the group of 20 summit and discussing the topic how to stop the war he is attacking ukraine with more than that missiles, so this is not just a signal china must do something they must understand that they must be on the right side must support ukraine and
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not russia, the country is beautiful thank you arsenia on monday president biden and the presidents among other issues, they also discussed russia's war in ukraine, what experts in washington think about the fact that the world community continues to put pressure on putin, in what way this, as well as the meetings today at the ball, can contribute to further pressure on russia, if it succeeds, please. thank you, danylo, i don't have any expectations or productive expectations of the g20 summit maybe this is the night they should have talked about energy and food security they should have condemned today's attacks but putin was not in the 20s he should have been there, but without him the issues of energy , food security cannot be discussed if they
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do not have someone there who is slowing it all down and he is the president and makes decisions and he is not there. so he should have been at the ball, but he was afraid to go to the ball. yes, of course, he is very i was afraid to go, why would he go? if everyone scolded him. i'm sorry for interrupting you. please continue. so you think that you yourself are in your 20s. there is no point. you know the important point. i just came back from alaska. i was there for a week. i spoke with ordinary americans there, mostly republicans, trump’s people, that is, they are in favor of helping america and not paying ukraine , but no one complained, everyone said that they are ready to support ukraine, that is, i can say that we need to do more, my community, the community of kur and michael’s community, we need to work more with our
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citizens to tell them so that they understand what is happening people in alaska asked what else we can do for ukraine thank you for this good news it is very nice to hear that alaska supports ukraine as well as other states and people all over the united states support ukraine cheers to florida florida sounds very important to all of us after the midterm elections now i turn to ambassador mcfaul michael russia continues and it's about the g20 and all those issues russia continues to get political and practical assistance from china, it receives military assistance from iran and north korea and this is a fact very important international players india the largest democracy in the world is waiting and watching what will happen next can we talk about an effective regime of sanctions against russia. if it nevertheless receives
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help from its accomplices from the new axis of evil, i mean iran and north korea, what can the summit of the g20 mean in this context, that is, the pitiful in its attempts to hit ukraine once again will win not on battlefield can russia win this diplomatic war in this international relations please your comments before i answer this i want to emphasize what arseniy said because it is very important last week was really big victory for those who believe in democracy. this is the liberation of kherson and free and fair elections without violence, without mobilizing people and to obstruct the elections, without someone to steal votes and so on, that is, without the terrible scenarios that were talked about on television, this did not happen in our midterm elections, but it is much it is even more important than who won who lost, but what
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is even more important is that this very week the ukrainian democrats liberated kherson, this is a fantastic victory for all the forces of the democrats, and i will add to that this at the beginning of the year, logzaro lost, but in a fair election. it doesn't matter if ula won or lost again, the only thing that matters is that all the terrible scenarios came true, just like what happened at the 20th party forum in beijing. it was a united victory of the forces of freedom, everyone saw that all the price-pin is going in the wrong direction that it will destroy the economic model that works there of course it will take time but i say this because the struggle between the ideas of democracy and autocracy of freedom and non-freedom will continue they are not will take place only at the summit of the g20 and precisely such shifts make sense, of course , very often. when i was in the government and attended such
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meetings of the g20, no one paid attention to such multilateral meetings, only bilateral meetings have weight and i want to say two more things. in response to your question, you can to look at all these things as a glass half full or half empty when i read what i said to everyone at the meeting with biden, then i, if i were mr. putin, we did not like what was said, nothing was said in support of putin, nothing was said about the fact that novorossia is a territorial part of imperial russia, this is what putin says when he meets xi, he says that taiwan is your territory, take it away, but everyone qin-ping never says anything like that in response, second he spoke a four-point plan on how to stop putin's invasion, everyone didn't have to say that we didn't demand that from him, the us didn't demand that that's why for me it's a signal that he doesn't support
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putin's war and the third if we talk about practical things let's be honest china has given zero economic support to russia they didn't fit in when we pushed them to sanctions we talked to big companies in russia they are all in a very problematic situation now because of the sanctions because they are technologically locked out they don't get technological support to keep the companies going and the chinese do not help them , and secondly, if you are talking about major allies - it is north korea, iran, then i apologize if you say that you stand side by side with iran and north korea in the fight against the united states - the sign with the most powerful country and the most effective alliance in the world, then you really have big problems and then i think that all those signals that you have shown are very important and positive and not bad
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excellent comments really so very good comments thank you thank you really yesterday someone commented i think that correctly understand this chinese position, they are somewhat surprised and have nothing to do with russia, at least it looks that way, but michael i would like to say here's what you know about vladimir putin, have you met him and no, again, i know ask him a question, but our audience would really like to hear about it, what do you think psychologically , but he was afraid to go to indonesia, how do you explain it as a person, because he pretends that he is a dictator, that he is an emperor, but he is just afraid to talk to people, to those people, women and by men whose respect perception he wants to get so much if you explain it is his island
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already without any doubt he is afraid and this is again a bad signal for the russian elites i will explain if you are against satan leading the right war, at least in words, it is a war against nato and so on, by the way, they never mention ukraine, that is, they always say in russian propaganda narratives that they are fighting nato, it is a just war and the whole world supports you and you will not come to the summit of the g20, then everyone understand the elites understand that this is hypocrisy and that it means that you are the world is not with you, secondly, it is very important to understand that indeed the babushkas in siberia watch the russia 1 channel and they support putin's war from a demographic point of view the older you are. the less education you have or the less money you have, the more you support putin and
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vice versa, but if you are young, healthy and rich and live in the city, you do not support putin’s war. this is exactly what all social opinion polls show, however, 90% of those who are contacted inquiries refuse to answer do not give answers people to whom they turn and people to whom they turn they do not give answers that is 90% of people who answer only those who support putin therefore it is very careful that everyone supports putin in this levada, the data of social surveys are very wrong. but if we talk about the elites, who supports this terrible, stupid, idiotic war, who benefits from this war?
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there is no profit from the war. if we talk about the economic elites , again, one hundred percent for them, it is just a disaster and then it feels. i think that everyone must understand this, that is, he is considered powerful and strong and everyone supports him. but i think that everyone inside russia, no one at all thinks like that and does not support him and the last one i watch russian tv you don't have to do that watch him watch his show watch them all i know volodya solovyov for several decades he is the head of putin's propaganda he applauded very loudly when mr. zelensky was an actor and now he calls him a nazi usurper, but listen to solovyov, how disappointed he is, how depressed. he is in relation to what is happening. and he is paid by cream so that he remained on national television, this is not a
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leader's position and the fact that he is in such a depression really tells you a lot about how people in russia really feel about putin solovyov margarita the same way others margarita semenyan and others they are the same criminals as putin and his regime because they justify him and they will continue to speak their propaganda nazi style it is really impossible to imagine what they are talking about but by the way they pretend that they are strong people who have power but they pathetic they even look funny nothing strange thank you for your comments and remarks for saying that we don't have to trust what levada or other companies say but nevertheless there is a problem that is very important they can be against putin or for him but often
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they are just silent, they would rather go here to ukraine to be killed, but they will not stand up against his regime against the regime of those who are trying to brutally kill people, steal their property and money and hold power in russia for many centuries, this is the biggest problem i completely agree with you danylo i think it is very important that there are no innocent people in russia in this war and i talked to many russians they say we can do it badly sorry some of them are really doing something but they are already in prisons they they even die there, it's true i completely agree with you i fully support sanctions even more sanctions to ban russians from traveling we are talking and started with the fact that a terrorist attack was made on your city in real time this is a terrorist attack and no
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otherwise, let's call it that and let's call it that russia is a sponsor of terrorism and i agree with you internally and externally, but we must do more in order to respond to what putin does every day, not only sporadically, but every day we will return to this, i also agree if there will be enough time, thank you. i want to invite ambassador volker, more questions about this summit of the g20. and this is what part of international relations. recently , the president said that the main goal of china's development is geopolitically, the economy is a lot experts say that china is showing that it is not afraid to enter the cold war. with the united states, the president is all planning a visit to saudi arabia in december. therefore, it will be one of the very important international events on the row right there in
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indonesia. so we see that some leaders of the east and the south are indecisive and they do not clearly state their position regarding russia's war in ukraine. so, what do you think about this and what can be done to restrain russia not only on the battlefield, but also in international relations, please? yes, there are several things in your question and a few things that came up in our discussion i want to go back to that if we talk about china i think we need to remind each other that china is interested in promoting chinese interests they are not there to help russia or the united states or intervene in sanctions, they continue to work for chinese interests, so there are no surprises here in the fact that china does not help russia economically, because it can expose them to secondary sanctions, it can affect
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their economy, monetary policy for their they are not interested in relations with europe, the usa, they are interested in regional issues, taiwan, the south china sea, issues with the philippines, vietnam or japan, but they are interested in remaining powerful in the medium and long term, they are not in a hurry, they are absolutely right in trying to build a sustainable economy this is a signal to the chinese people, we see that now the chinese economy shows a lack of such conditions for the stability of the economy due to the restrictions that they introduced as shock therapy, and therefore people quite see that their life is different from what they are practically already used to, that is, china will continue to work for its interests and we need to remember this, we also need to look at how
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we are represented in this region, including at the g20 summit we must demonstrate strength we continue maintain the territorial integrity of all countries in the region, freedom of navigation we do not want the status quo that has developed in the region to be violated unilaterally, this must happen against the background of the powerful presence of the united states in the region, this will contribute to stabilization in the future, it is in our interests and we talked about it a lot but if we talk about the global south, which you asked in your question, it is clear that if we talk about india or saudi arabia, they look first of all at their interests, but they have certain doubts regarding how it will all end and whether they will have to clarify their relations with putin as well, but they do not want to
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burn all their bridges right now because of the support of ukraine but nevertheless, now this relationship is already somewhat is changing, they are beginning to see that putin is losing , that russia is already much less powerful, that they did not survive as a sovereign independent european democracy, that the entire west will continue to support ukraine, and all these factors will influence the leaders of the global south. i think there are several messages here, what china said on summit in indonesia, but it is very different from what china itself said a year ago, i think it is also different from what the leaders in central asia, whom i recently met, say, it is different from what they spoke a year ago, they see what is happening. i wanted to briefly comment on alaska, because malinda spoke about it. of course, people
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in alaska are very supportive of ukraine, because if ukraine loses, then alaska will be next. on putin's agenda, he will also want to return it, there are no surprises here, but if jokes aside, it is very important to look at the position taken by the american people, we cannot say what is happening now, we all stand under one flag, we see powerful sympathy for the powerful support of ukraine in ukraine, everyone knows that ukraine is a victim and russia is a brutal aggressor, war crimes are terrible, this is one emotion that dominates others, an emotion that michael probably said about, some people ask why do we have to do something when others do nothing because some believe that only the usa always must provide some help or support, and therefore it is very important to talk about the fact that the european union must also intervene
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more, they have already made promises of budgetary support, but have not yet done so. i think that the americans understand that we can provide more military support to ukraine, but they would also like the union to provide more financial support to ukraine, but this is not happening yet, and this is quite a risk when we are talking about the political system in the usa. if this continues, when people will see that we in the usa are doing a lot in the last regions of the world in the european union, they do not increase their aid to ukraine, this will negatively affect ukraine, this can be dangerous and the last thing. mccarthy, who removes the question of doubt. and do we have to support ukraine, that is, he wants to find a safe place to help ukraine , so that it is done in a transparent and accountable
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way, but we are talking about the fact that our support is effective. we want to make sure of this. that is, we write in the country check, however, we do not indicate the amount, this is done so that there are no conversations about the fact that we do not provide ukraine with a single check. thank you melinda , please what kurt said - this is really great, but for one moment, i think they still need to explain what it means budgetary support because the usa does not give ukraine military support, massive budgetary support of eight and a half billion dollars, humanitarian policy and sanctions are carried out, as michael said about it, but a certain skepticism about budgetary support is growing. and when you explain to people what this actually means: pensions, hospitals, schools, social payments, money for the railway, the money that ukraine needs to continue living and working , then people stop talking. and why do we have to give them budget support, that is, budget
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support should simply be fully and clearly outlined i completely agree with you, this also means full accountability. i was just trying to explain what a blank check means . to our army to our people because it is vital for us i think you understand and you know that you stand by us i just want to share this feeling with you we really need a lot of other things including means against air defense but missile systems and so on michael would you like to say something about that briefly because i thought you wanted to add some other message to this discussion i
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just want to say two things talking about the global south is very important as well i think that we are elites who live on the coast at least i live in california we have to keep talking i have already given about a hundred speeches about ukraine not only for californians but in new york washington succeeded last week i address thousands of people we we have to explain to them what is happening, we don't have to stop that this is a war for freedom, this is a war for our security, but we also have to give a message to the rest of the world, and it seems to me that the biden administration was not very successful in terms of diplomacy in africa or the middle east or in asia these are really difficult conversations but i would give them a poor rating for public diplomacy in the global south but nevertheless, nothing is worth more than victory and what is not worth more than winning i was in taifa about two months ago i
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i want all ukrainians to know that there is not a single group of people on the entire globe who would insist on being from ukraine, who would not stand by ukraine, who would not want ukraine to win, and in taiwan, people want ukraine to win, they understand better than others what if you win it will have very important consequences for their democracy for their freedom for their containment of china i think everyone sees that ukraine will win and that is very important and that is why the americans continue to support you i just want to remind all of us we have topics for the discussion diplomats will explain why this is important, but the victory itself will provide more positive opportunities for the coalition around the world to counter and fight against these dictators, thank you i
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want to invite mr. yatsenyuk again to summarize our discussion and share your thoughts, please allow me to disagree, i can start with china, you absolutely on the right, china does not provide direct financing to russia, but have you seen the latest figures that trade between china and the russian federation increased by 35% in october, this is how the military machine of the russian federation is financed the same regarding india, look i am convinced that china should decide whether it supports russia or the global order. i believe that china is on the wrong track regarding the role of the us administration and whether they have done a good job in sending a message to the whole world that ukraine is important and this is a global war for freedom here are the numbers, look at the last vote
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in support of ukraine and declaring the annexation illegal. if i'm not mistaken, 146 countries and the usa had an influence on it, or see the last decision of the general assembly of the united nations, which actually paves the way to 94 countries voted to establish a reparations mechanism so the us has done everything to consolidate the whole world to resist russian aggression can we do more yes we must do more about kurt's words what should increase aid efforts i completely share this position i completely share your position kurt we have eu candidacy open door policy regarding eu membership so the eu should play an important and very powerful role so summing up the usa are the real leaders and i, in
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the person of you michael and you melinda, want to thank you for the work you do, you convey the message to run for ukraine. you explain to everyone in the usa that ukraine is important and that ukraine must win for the sake of the security of not only the eu but also the united states. after the summit of the group of 20, i believe the biden administration even consolidated the support of certain members of the j20 and what putin did with this massive missile strike will actually help the administration and the free world to consolidate a united position against the russian federation and it may affect china and india and the rest of the world so my message i believe that the new congress will support ukraine and i believe that with such friends as the usa and the eu we will win and i believe that it is in the interests of the entire free world, in particular
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every citizen of the usa, to help ukraine save ukraine to protect the democracy and security of both ukraine and the usa so we are on the right track thank you arseniy i want to thank you all for this very important discussion, just in time. during his entire political life, putin always refused to even recognize that ukraine is independent, he refused to recognize the very fact that ukrainians exist as a separate ethnic and historical nation, but the irony is that ukraine became the reality that defeated putin, defeated putin, what the russian imperialists feared most has already happened, russia has lost and there are no alternatives except to contain the russian aggressor, no pacification, no temporary truce, determination is necessary to bring this
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issue to the right as a result, determination and wisdom are needed to pave the way for real and comprehensive peace in europe and throughout the world, i thank you all for this conversation from on behalf of the kyiv security forum, thank you so that ukrainians do not think about so that they do not speak in the first place, war still comes out, war is our victory, seven days a week from monday to monday, seven different spheres of human activity, sports , culture, politics, eight hosts, espresso , journalists, experts, opinion leaders in the regime real-time about the most relevant events through the prism of war every day author's projects on espresso

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