provided security for, including those areas that are located on the border with countries that are countries above and what are these strange statements or not strange maybe mine and in principle inherent because he is so uh as uh a step forward, then a step back, erdoğan. now he says that there is definitely no trace of russia there, how should we interpret this, that he wants to negotiate for turkey again, it is possible. in this way, rudogan is playing the role of a regional leader, rudogan wants to become putin at the table of these three as i already said that now there is actually a vacancy and de facto, later, even after that, he started questioning something and telling me that he might not go to the summit of the g20 and that it was actually

the message that they didn't want to see him there, but he said it for his information field just... he told me that it was he who made the decision and that it was he that is how he decided not to go so someone is still trying to call you for sure viktor maybe but here is this statement actually g20 where the joint statement where the majority condemned the war of russia against ukraine or is this these we condemn the appeals concerned whether already on the 266th day wars, they can still be relevant, or maybe it was necessary to look for some other vocabulary in such international communications, mr. petrenko, despite

the fact that the g20 is not only the countries of the west, there are powerful countries of the east, and there is china. and here is what we succeeded in . what we didn't succeed. what did the western world succeed in taking this edition of the german texts as a basis, nevertheless, it is a great progress. i think precisely because it was authored by germany. trading partner as a political partner of china and mr. in certain fields, china still had to grit its teeth and sign this german text, but we need to understand one interesting thing related to yesterday's attack. knew about the preparation of this attack, how did he not know about the preparation for the war and back in february, ah,

and in this case, unfortunately, it looks like this, and we need to be aware of this, that russia has done a certain favor for china, i will explain its missile attack against russia is trying to push the boundaries of ukraine it is testing what is allowed for a nuclear state. it is also testing certain norms of international coexistence now. that is, it is showing the limits of what is possible for a nuclear state in its behavior in its relations with its neighbors. if russia is not punished for these missile strikes , infrastructure degradation, that is means that china in its relations with its non-nuclear neighbors can also allow itself similar, that is, the doctrine that such aggression is aimed at the destruction of critical infrastructure, of course we mean in the first place taiwan's turn, that is, and this is very important, and this is very important, russia did such a favor to china,

but the fact that at this summit it was possible to condemn russia, it is still written that the majority of the members of the g20 condemn this war in ukraine did not name russia in the direct text but there is no less er now china will be more difficult er to use similar methods in relations with its neighbors so here you have to be very careful to keep an eye on the behavior i ask in this case mr. viktor i want to return to your you question they asked whether it is not too late here, in fact, in the resolution they refer to the un resolution from march , and this is once again a reminder that, well, it is a fact that there is a war in ukraine and there cannot be other tractors from the other side . of the text of the resolution, but according to the

previous text, there is not a word of words about russia's aggression. in other words, there is a general condemnation of the war, that is, not a condemnation of russia, but a condemnation of the war. this is a slightly changed emphasis, and here i agree with my colleague, what is your position? of china and some other countries that are oriented towards china was decisive in this regard in order to come up with some kind of general document that would satisfy everyone. indeed, china leaves this gap for russia so that it can express itself. but nevertheless, i believe that russia china has long since identified russia as a satellite that it can control. thank you,

gentlemen , for the conversation. of the democratic initiative foundation named after ilko kucherev were in touch with us, well, now let's move on to nezium, voice of america correspondent yulia yarmolenko is working at the g20 summit, and actually now we will ask her if there was an echo of yesterday's strike on ukraine, how did the high-ranking officials there react politicians er and actually where biden sullivan is sitting together and there er who else happens there because there was someone third there was yes no no but night where they do not sleep at night sitting together with the three on the phones yes yes yes yes as if they did not give yesterday, the heads of the american delegation got some sleep, so what is the real reaction today, is it being discussed a lot, certainly a lot is being discussed, and

you know that yesterday, when this information came here in indonesia, it was already midnight and just after midnight, jack sullivan issued a statement in which he clearly condemned these attacks and actually said that while the g20 countries are trying to find ways to improve the lives of people around the world, russia continues to threaten those lives, particularly vital infrastructure in ukraine as well secretary of state blinken is already from this photo you are talking about. he later also issued a statement in which he said that in fact there is a huge contrast, while ukrainian presidents from the podium of the same group of 20 speak of readiness for a just peace, russia responds with shelling and said blin you really think that this will not break the spirit of the ukrainians, and the united states, for its part, will continue to help ukraine as long as it is needed. well, today you know that the second day has just happened, and it has now ended.

by this time, many leaders are already starting to fly out of bali, but the day did not start here as planned, a symbolic planting of mangrove trees was planned together with the president of indonesia and a more relaxed day, but it began with an unscheduled meeting of the military planned meeting of the leaders of nato countries, as well as the leaders in the group of seven present precisely at the meeting here on the sidelines of the summit of the group of 20 and based on the results of this meeting of this round table, the leaders expressed absolutely condemnation of the russian attacks, which they called barbaric, said that they will continue to help ukraine as long as necessary, also said that they will absolutely accept to facilitate a full investigation of those explosions that happened, which we know happened in poland, and also said , in fact, they emphasized the same thing, this huge contrast in the way that the group 20-something

is trying to find ways to solve world problems russia is creating those problems joe biden is the american president actually he was asked about whether it is possible to say for the moment that the missile that caused the damage that actually caused the explosions in poland that the missile came directly from russia to what did president biden say that the preliminary and preliminary data indicate that they are contradicted i said that it is unlikely given the trajectory that the rocket is working specifically from russia but he said it would not nothing to say until the full investigation is completed and the mafia and the prime minister of the netherlands, who was also present, he actually said that it is important to understand one thing, if russia had not carried out these terrible attacks, nothing everything did not happen. therefore, it is very important to understand where the root of these problems comes from, what is the overall assessment of this final statement of the

g20, is it what was hoped for, or can it be called a victory for western diplomacy, you know colleagues, in fact, we heard from the american delegation that they were are quite optimistic that the majority of countries will come out with a clear condemnation of russian aggression, and the declaration states that most countries of the group of 20 condemn russian aggression. however, it is not clear what the majority is in mind is it 11 countries or 15 or 19 also in this declaration there are certain certain words that can be in the terminology how can i express concerns in fact the war of russia against ukraine is called simply the war in ukraine and they say that the countries of the world have remained in their previous positions in particular which they outlined at other meetings for the un acquisition meeting and the meeting with the un general assembly, of course one of the resolutions

of the un general assembly condemns the russian invasion and demands the immediate withdrawal of all russian troops. but not all countries voted for this resolution and also in that declaration talks about the fact that there are other opinions , that is, most countries condemn russian aggression , but there are also other opinions, so somehow i did not specifically see veliky about the fish, but what we are hearing now on the margins of this is that the american delegation is actually very clear and worked hard to actually convince the country, who may doubt that in fact the root of the problems, in particular the economic problems that are currently present all over the world, comes from russian aggression from a full-scale russian invasion did the american delegates bring this message to ukraine? did the countries that currently do not openly condemn russia, such as

china or india, which is trying to be neutral, hear this message ? in the next few weeks, yulia, tell me more, please. you must not have been to such international events for the first time. summit events where the russian delegation was present, and you can compare how she previously behaved at such and such meetings and how she behaved this time. well, in the end, how were the representatives of russia treated the leaders of other countries, well, you know, for sure, the russian delegation behaved like that and they will agree. that is, we know the style of sergei lavrov, which seems to me to remain absolutely unchanged. us the security of the usa and he said that russia is increasingly isolated and forums like this one actually demonstrate this and it is also important

that we know according to the results of this forum there was no family photo as it is called the topic of a couple or such a group photo, in particular, because not all leaders want to stand in the same photo with representatives of russia, so the isolation becomes greater, but still, as the declaration signed by 20 countries showed, they still continue to say that they will continue to cooperate, so there is actually a double feeling but as far as the isolation of russia is concerned, it is deepening . to judge from there thank you very much yulia yarmolenko correspondent of the voice of america joined us from the balls from indonesia thank you for this conversation well,

listen, but it's actually a branded thing, uh, i don't even know yet, so in people, i mean in russia, representatives of the russian government in the end, the russian elite was in the roton of some kind of uncle who was walking down the street, bought a ticket in indonesia, flew to the fabulous bali and said that he will sit here between you and listen to what you are saying here. otherwise, that's all one thing, despite everything they do, they don't have any shame of conscience or conscience. i don't know everything else that is in the settings of normal people, but they excluded it. i think that education is not everything. it is very important. there is the culture itself, the cultural upbringing of a person. i don't think i don't know lavrov, he's a descendant of some scottish duke, i don't know, and who was kidnapped and taken to russia, although of course everything can be, but yes

you can't tell from his face that he's uh, well, of course, i 'm joking. yes, but but but in general of course it is this the issue of upbringing and education is not always equal . let's say nobility or culture. because here we are talking about some minimal nobility, that is, a person will never descend to a certain level to which russian diplomacy very often descends, and it is much lower than the generally accepted framework that is considered decent decency and that his mother was an employee of the ministry of foreign trade of the ussr sports elite it is clear but the party elite of the soviet union it was still as a rule former yesterday cooks, relatively speaking, or the children of cooks. i don’t know if they could instill in their descendants this very nobility, because nobility consists in the fact that

a person does not fall below some lines. a person keeps his word and a person respects himself, has his own dignity and respects the dignity of other people for that what about russians, this is a big problem, eh. well, that is, they are people who humiliate themselves and like to humiliate themselves when they have the opportunity. your highness, but it's not really the same thing when you, er, even if you don't know the king, you treat a person who works and sweeps the streets with respect, for you it's a person equal to you and not something that's below you, but unfortunately in russians, it's not used in spite of the fact that they say that they have a great russian culture. but something is not too much. this was our daily column, a moment of russophobia with lesia ukrainka by andrii serhiichuk. i know that you love her very much, especially russian e bots that

write us in the chat immediately start get burnt ot listen, something like that, something on the fiftieth, that they understand what we are saying here, uh, sometimes you understand , sometimes they even question what it means. thank you, explain. what does a dumb muscovite mean. our marathon has a communication with the people's elected representatives today it will be the people's elected representatives yuliya klymenko oksana savchuk should be in touch with us tell me if there is already while we are here with andrii we disagreed about lavrov and his compatriots e-e congratulations o voice can be heard and seen e we welcome you i enjoyed listening to a moment of russophobia. i like it very much. we do this from time to time

. we take off in our marathon. yesterday was a small celebration for one person. the head of a respectable institution is a ukrainian judge named vovk who was elected the head of the district administrative court of kyiv for the fifth time and he always comes there. that i'm moving, we don't see that you're moving, but did you hear ms. oksana when i'm sorry, look, just look , the anti-corruption center wrote to me, it seems right that it's like news from some parallel reality, it's like it's some news from some other ukraine where yanukovych didn't run away, where is he next

, the president is already on his fourth term, and maybe even kuchma is on his eighth. well, that's what i'm roughly saying. so listen, what to do with that? there was some kind of urgent presidential bill that said to abolish this district court and so on. what do the deputies think about this whole story, ms. yuliya, the deputies are the authors of this draft law, er, about liquidating the osk once and for all, because, as you understand, wolves will always return there, so er, there is no other way out, but to liquidate lask, unfortunately , at the moment no, we stand for it, we constantly talk about it and try to push this bill into the agenda of the verkhovna rada, but it doesn't get there or it gets messed up, so there is a big question. why, uh, in the ninth month of the war, alone are fighting and defending

homeland, and others are engaged in what they are engaged in, in fact, corruption and lobbying for their interests. and to whom should we address this question? who should answer these questions because well, when we raise such topics on the air , for example, a commentator also appears under the youtube broadcast of what you say in such a difficult time is pushing the government to power, and how to react to this and how to explain to people that after all, well, after all, it is time to talk about such topics and it is necessary to talk, especially in times of war. thank you, look, i am convinced that ago that today we need to pay more attention to the judicial system, we have on the agenda of the next meeting judicial issues, namely the introduction of changes in the judicial system on the ground, but this is a slightly different story, that is, during the war, there really is such a thing, you know,

some kind of unspoken rule not to touch the courts. although on the one hand, everyone says that the courts must be completely reformed they must work transparently instead in the new draft of the state budget plus two billion hryvnias for the judicial system for salaries they added plus uh, this is a project the decision on this draft law, by the way, i signed it and guests last year, we asked for a settlement with, well, to actually complete the reform of the kyiv district court, uh, we talked about it a lot there, but unfortunately, it was such, you know, a little bit of silence. it seems to me that the current the authorities are afraid to touch the courts at all, they talk about them, but in fact and in fact they do not want to reform them, we know. maybe they are afraid of their future after they are no longer in power, and that is why i do not want to touch the courts, but

indeed, today's history is such that bills appear on the agenda about everything that you don't want, even changes in the rules, e.e., the association of co-owners of apartment buildings and others, well, on those projects that you were supported by society and such as finally putting an end to by the kyiv court of appeals by the district court, uh, here's another story like this, it's quite acute, today we already showed it at the beginning of our broadcast, we showed one such picture or something from him, uh, which of apostol, in particular, yury butusov, these are the events in the released kherson, remember that there were problems with restricting the access of ukrainian journalists and depriving them of accreditation, again, and western journalists, in particular , our colleague azart, e.e. safarov, who is actually a ukrainian journalist from the fifth channel , fell under them. i think they worked together with him, and he should

be spared criticism, despite the fact that they received an award as senen, in particular, the film crew, which are all relics of this war . a german woman who we can show again if we can now. for example, the head of this dniprovska ova appears, about whom the journalist's investigation is coming out, that he, through this acquaintance of his, conducted some huge stands, this was during the war, this is a photo, you can see him yes and there is a place for him there in kherson, that is, he also came to liberate, and irmak is already there giving him his hand, the happy deputy of the minister of defense is looking in love, i don’t know who else there, and president zelensky licks after returning the truth is, i look back at this whole event, and in this one with him, there is so much, and you

understand why, in fact, they did not want to let journalists into this kherson and deprived them of accreditation because she is so very, very eloquent. she is very, very, very eloquent, and what is she talking about? in your opinion, she is talking about the fact that, unfortunately, inside the country, in the rear , such drastic changes are not taking place, which should be in order for the country to survive during the war and after the war. because we are also facing a difficult post-war period and if we have a corner in the country the deriban will continue in alya, dnipropetrovsk ova, and there will also be all those schemes that anyone knows about. dorozhnyk, with a subcontracted organization, it is not, uh, there is some very uh, let's say

so, uh, intelligence information if you ask any contractors, er, ordinary road workers, they will tell you who will receive the tenders and who er and who is located, and therefore, if we continue to have a business situation inside the country er, then count on putin to win, i don't want him it is to say but it is unfortunately so or we are all inside the country we are rebuilding and going, let's say, to our future , or, then, the situation will be quite difficult in the post-war period, and it is necessary to understand this now and immediately do something in the country. there cannot be a situation in which one person dies defending the country, while others die for others. everything as always with all the schemes and deribans, this will lead to serious

conflicts in society. well, i am generally convinced that we will have next year, because it looks like it is really wartime and it is planned to continue to us already next year a year and we will already have such sometimes, unfortunately, public uh actually such condemnations that uh and military others because there are a number of questions that society really does not get an answer to . who still carry deputy mandates there are high-ranking officials who still use , for example, the same transport, for example, a pick-up truck or other cars that should be at the front, they use them, it causes a great negative and this also applies, including some provision of

basic help there on the ground, that is, all these things will be unfortunately if we really do not want to solve them now, then they will lead to internal contradictions, and this will certainly not be the best way, because we still need to be more united but the government must draw conclusions, the totality of power today does not always lead to efficiency, another situation that has been looming over the dovzhenko center for several weeks is that the head of the center is being suspended, the acting head of the sbu is coming there there are almost explosives, they are appointing a cynology hypnotist and yesterday, finally, the minister of culture oleksandr tkachenko said that something like this is happening around the dovzhenko center and said to stop the reorganization of this

institution and also to prove a transparent competition even though in in principle, the competition should be transparent , for some reason it was not conducted transparently, it has already won finally, hmm, the cultural community of ukraine did not like all these insinuations around it, is dovzhenka the center, or is it still oleksandr tkachenko is trying somehow now from this situation in which well , he probably also contributed to everything as it all turned out from this filmography and so on somehow to drink from this beautifully divided the situation is that during martial law unfortunately, competitions are not held and this is - that's one of the reasons why we appoint canine experts to the movies, eh, the film industry , eh, why we appoint a construction worker, master of construction, to the quality assessment center of the education quality assessment center, eh, and many other odious people

who should generally be on the lookout, but they uh will manage very responsible areas in our country such as education and culture and many other things, so i think that we will, for example, initiate the return of full-fledged competitions for any positions that will be appointed in state e-e in the state e-e state power and in at the expense of budget funds so also the return i will also interrupt the return of which e-e publications of the decisions of local authorities why because we see the situation with the reservoir as it was going to be reorganized and closed in buchi and this also caused a public outcry. and we found out that it was actually accidental, because even the commission of the kyiv city administration does not publish such decisions. in other words, in general,

most of the derision takes place behind closed doors, and it raises more and more questions to the authorities and to of the local authorities as well. therefore, er, excuse me, we are in the ninth month of the war, there is nothing to hide. please, hold contests, hold transparent meetings, publish decisions so that society knows what it does and how central and local authorities, i do not understand at all how a competition for the post of a cultural center, for example, can undermine the security of the country, even where the sbu does not get out, the next one to melitopol is broken from there, or something from that. from the fact that they can appoint a corrupt person there. to you for participating in our broadcast , yuliya klymenko and oksana savchuk, elected representatives of ukraine, were with us. we thank our viewers for being with andrii seychuk and lesya vakulyuk. this is the end of our part of the espresso marathon, but the ether continues and there will be news from iran