the work of transport, well, about gas supply, water supply, i have already told you that the health care system is working, so these moments are positive for tomorrow. by the way, we have planned a very pleasant thing in kramatorsk . driver's license exchange driver's license why is this very important for our region and especially for these may day cities because many military personnel learned during this period in driving schools in driving schools of the association with the assistance of the defense of ukraine and did not have the opportunity to get a driver's license, i hope that from tomorrow the situation of the undercover will change , for which a big thank you, well, to everyone who took part in this , mykola rydiku rudyku in the head, some part of asparagus and dmytro chernyavskyi, many many, i will ask a couple more around, you know, we are now

somehow almost not we're talking well, at least i don't hear such conversations about the situation in the u.s., as they say in the previously occupied territories, which were formed in the so-called dpr and lpr, these are artificial formations of the occupation authorities. how is life there in general, the fighting are happening, we see how they react to it in ukraine , but you react to the situation, we see all this, and there is something there in general. well, everyone who could have been cleared to join the army has already been cleared there. now, as i understand it, they are carrying out these massive and sometimes simply senseless attacks multiplying by zero hundreds of thousands of their mobilized forces, the mobilized forces . and how is the life of the occupied donetsk region? i want to tell you that it really started in the spring, the youth were recruited into the armed forces of the so-called dpr of the lpr, and the main part of the youth was crushed under

the people of mariupol were then cleaned out after our last victories, when kharkiv was liberated, when kharkiv was liberated, when kharkiv oblast was liberated, raisin , when liman was liberated, and the rest were cleared, i would have a lot of acquaintances and acquaintances. let me tell you who were in the occupied territory, i can tell you that they are all they are trying to leave, the situation has become so unbearable that both elderly people and women are all trying to leave. well, because life has completely lost its meaning in those territories. when you lose a son, a husband, you stay in the territory which can be shelled makes no sense, but i will tell you that the situation is very, very difficult in those territories that we have just liberated, but i want to tell you about lyman, which is now without electricity, without

water, without gas, without anything, and how it desperately needs humanitarian help, we we organize a ride there, it's extremely difficult to live in sloviansk, which constantly suffered from artillery shelling , it's very, very difficult to recover . unfortunately, they are slipping so that the situation everywhere in the donetsk region is difficult, but the spirit of victory remains, people still believe and remain even in such conditions, it is extremely difficult to spend the winter in their apartment. and tell me, are there options for people to leave to which region? i know that in many regions now the regions now they are trying to prepare at least some kind of accommodation for people. i have a story from relatives where people, in my opinion, from the kharkiv region, no, not from the kharkiv region, but from the donbass,

were settled there in a school in a dormitory, but they arranged everything for them, the children study at school online or offline, it doesn’t matter, but that is, there are cases when a village is really invited, a district center somewhere in khmelnytskyi, there frankivshchyna, lvivshchyna . they hope to spend the winter, well, more or less decently. does this motivate people to leave, or is it really now that if someone has stayed, then it is those who have remained who can no longer be convinced? well, she and the city government and the regional government constantly explains and carries out such work that the winter will be extremely difficult and that it is still worth evacuating and we are carrying out this work and the first cold shows that it will be very difficult to winter here, it will be extremely difficult to use if you still have questions to consider anyway, you can leave here, yes,

tours are constantly being organized, buses are constantly being organized for departure , migration is slowly coming. well, it’s like that. it seems to me that as many people are leaving, the same number of people are returning. in fact, there are very positive things. examples of how our, well, sad, well, i mean, the residents of the donetsk region left for different areas. i know in cherkasy region, there are very, very many poor people who were given free houses, who are trying to get a job there, and this is almost everywhere in the country, everywhere -what region are our residents who think that well, whoever could, whoever wants, can find a place for himself to present . well, maybe one day find a new life, in any case, have more chances to protect yourself. mykola dovbnya was with us. thank you. take care. deputy of the druzhki city council no, we are leaving donetsk region now

. well, i say so figuratively, and we are heading south. zaporizhzhia region serhiy lyshenko is with us, deputy of the zaporizhia regional council, volunteer mr. serhiy, greets you. good evening. first of all, i will ask about the security situation in the city of zaporizhzhia in the region as of this evening on this day, what happened today, what is important, what do you want to tell me, please, well, for today, the situation in the city is stable, and despite the large number of alarms, they are of course the same as yesterday, but still a large number of a-a the city was quiet a-a demining was carried out of those rockets that were recently shot down near the city a-a there were shellings at night but again, no serious blows were inflicted on the city they were not inflicted as a rule it seems that the surrounding villages around the city are actively fighting battles on the line of demarcation vasylivka is such a

birth but usually these battles are of a deterrent nature, as on one side there are those on the other, and no , they don’t go on- thank god, they dig in to attack, pull up forces and reserves precisely for the purpose of ensuring defense at the moment, that is, on uh i believe that the next direction of the sssu will be to break through, this is the zaporizhia direction, and that is why the number of technical manpower is increasing every day. on this part of the front, please tell me. there was information that there were some ensigns somewhere, but in melitopol, in my opinion, this was the story. well, that is did any such centrifugal movements take place, or did the collaborators and the occupiers calm down a little, or did the tension not leave them at all due to the fact that the ukrainian army continues to push back the enemy in the kherson region? among the collaborators now the leader is actively spreading the opinion that kherson

was not principled kherson was unimportant kherson was not of strategic and symbolic importance and at the same time melitopol at the same time berdyansk is a land road to crimea and this road to crimea will be handed over only if tomorrow they will make a decision on the transfer of crimea and this, of course, will not happen, because as long as putin theo is alive, no one will make this decision, etc., etc. its voluntary surrender, because otherwise it will not be possible to get crimea, because it will not be secured and the crimean bridge was blown up, the railway goes through the zaporizhzhia region with russia, with russia, the highway passes berdyansk

primorsk-melitopol, and therefore somewhere in the strategic direction of it no in any case no one will give up, so don't worry. well, that's roughly how they like people. well, they also believe in this. tell me, please. today was a very interesting story in the kherson region. they found lists of collaborators and traitors, that is, those who cooperated with the fsb and those who gave certain promises under certain guarantees, in fact no one for some reason . by the way, it is interesting. it is also very interesting for the collaborators that no one took these lists away. no one destroyed them, that is, the enemies actually did not care that their names would be exposed by the ukrainian special services . the lists were simply left in the folders and, of course, the failures were found, now these co-borants will be able to be calculated and calculated and, of course, they will be punished, it is interesting that this will lead to the fact that they will possibly hide their connections with the enemy in the zaporizhzhia region, or such facts, nothing will lead people to anything, they won't even think about it, but look

, they already found an explanation on this matter, well, first of all, they explained to the people that those lists were handed over to those of people who actually and the lists consist of two parts, the second part - these are the people who actually did not refuse to cooperate with the collaborators, but were located in the territory and their surnames were deliberately entered there, that is, by substituting thus and mixing the deza in coffee beans with dill of the tpp, the first part of the list, and the second part of the lists are those who refused to help evacuate people there as authorities and so on and so on and so on and information about them as it is in the public domain . who already knew that they were collaborators of those people and left them. and here is the very value of the lists of those who contributed , helped, who were the intelligence agency, these lists

were taken away, therefore, if you do not misbehave and help, we will either take you away or no one will know about you if everything goes well and we will have agents, well, in particular, such information is spreading throughout the vasylivka district , that is, the situation here is the same, they even have this situation . zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, because for a long time it was the epicenter of events in ukraine, all attention was focused on the nuclear power plant because there were real threats of a local or possible continental disaster, well now it seems the situation is stable, but how stable is it for the residents of energodar and possibly for the station workers, how is their life there, please, well, in fact, energodar due to its proximity to the dnieper crossing. the territory, not the occupied territory, is subject to constant

shelling - this is an area close to the front line. therefore that when they go out to shoot at nikopolis, this counter-battery leads a fight, and that is why sometimes the occupiers end up in dust in the villages near the energy source, when they understand, sometimes they try shoot from the territory of the city, there are the territories of the ceilings , note that the a answer will not arrive and it usually trades local residents, although in general the situation has more or less stabilized, the nuclear power plant, unfortunately, has begun to work, including for the russian federation for the available information , and therefore more or less now everything is calm, only there is a question, there are some problems with the disposal of rocket fuel and they cannot send it to russia for disposal well, but this problem, as far as i know, is there still or not yet the lord, that is, there is the normal operating schedules are disrupted, but in general everything is under control. and tell me the traffic through the

vasilivka checkpoint is now happening. because we remember earlier that people were detained there for a week, and some even more, and people died at this checkpoint and they were never released and from of the occupied territory now, when you know, the attention has somehow shifted to other regions, to kherson oblast, there, maybe somewhere in donetsk oblast, there is a missile attack, and maybe there, somehow, it’s like that, because there is not much attention, somehow it’s happening, this work is happening, people are leaving little by little by the way, are they allowed to enter or are they not allowed to enter, please? well, leaving is not so easy. there is a very complicated procedure for entering and exiting. by the way, the occupiers have also created a rather complicated procedure for leaving. it is possible to pass something in this local special checks . after issuing all kinds of passes, including for bribes, and so on and so on, you can leave, moreover, there is a certain number of people who manage to do this by carefully preparing the documents for those requirements a-a-a per day, that is, people leave in the morning after lunch, they are already in zaporizhzhia, but

yes, unfortunately, there are not many of such people today. it is around 100-200 people per day . first, not everyone can handle the processing of those documents . the occupied territory will not have free normal living conditions for them either . unfortunately, many people make the decision to stay there for the winter and see how it will be in the spring. well, as one local resident told me, i can spend 20,000 hryvnias for departure and can for these money to buy myself a car for the whole winter and i've definitely survived it, i'll survive it, thank you very much serhiy take care thank you for joining serhiy lyshenko, a deputy of the zaporizhia regional council, a volunteer was in touch with us well, actually, we'll talk further, i'll listen, serhii will talk sgorets, director of the agency, defect, express, columnist, military

summaries of the day, he is already with us, serhiy, i congratulate you, vasyl, i congratulate our viewers. i have a very short question, here is the incident that happened in poland with the fall of a rocket. nato's reaction, i said how the planes and ships were mobilized, what happened there, the combat readiness, well, that's exactly what the incident is locally , please. nato is a military democracy, and democracy usually works slowly, but in this case we are talking about the fact that consultations took place quickly, certain conclusions were drawn, first of all increasing the combat readiness of poland. and how will the situation with this missile and this incident develop? i think that we will talk in detail with our expert guests, who will be just today in our military summaries of the day about this moment so, yesterday russia carried out another massive missile attack on ukraine, 93 missiles were fired

, of which 77 were shot down, 10 shaheds were also shot down, and these statistics are extremely effective from the point of view of assessing the capabilities of air defense, while it is interesting that for the first time these americans were involved in the work sams complexes defense minister austin said that they demonstrated 100% efficiency, but in addition to the sanctions , our complexes were mainly warhorses in shooting down russian missiles s-300 actually the s300 complex effectively shoots down the russian h1 cruise missiles, which the enemy primarily actively used in terms of the number of yesterday's attacks on ukraine. quarter of this year, that is, actually from the factory to terrorist actions, which is, in principle, a sign that the missiles are

running out and are actually only being manufactured and are being used for such strikes on ukraine together however, one of the components of yesterday's attack was that during the work on the russian missiles of the s-300 complex, a situation occurred when the fragments of the missile fell on the territory of poland. today, the leadership of poland held a press briefing where the president of poland, duda said that actually according to the results of the meeting of the national security bureau, a missile from the s300 complex most likely fell on polish territory, it was connected with the reflection of the most massive missile attack by the russian federation. and i actually said duda ukraine defended itself - this is obvious and understandable, and we are launching missiles from there that were supposed to shoot down the cruise missiles of the russian federation. we are dealing with

a serious combat clash that was provoked by the russian side and, like the entire war in general, for yesterday's clash - this is definitely responsible. the russian federation emphasized android in its as we can see today, there was also a statement from the ukrainian side, which was more restrained and, in particular, the secretary of the national security and defense council oleksiy danilov said that the ukrainian authorities have doubts that the missile that fell on poland belonged to the forces of the ukrainian air defense joint-stock company. on the polish partners in all the evidence, in turn, on the fact that ukrainian experts

were also involved in the investigation. in fact, this just adds certain new details to this story now in we are in touch with dario schmaternyak - he is the head of the poland and ukraine research center. by the way, this center is holding an extremely relevant event in lviv today - it is the seventh ukrainian-polish strategic forum, but now we will not ask about the forum, but rather how the polish community evaluates this incident with the rocket and all the more so since the prime minister of poland marawiecki emphasized that this situation with the rocket can be used by the russian federation for the purpose of disinformation and manipulation, mr. dariosh, first of all, i congratulate you good evening greetings. how do you assess the situation that is currently developing around this incident with the missile? well

, the main thing here is that what you said is what you said . also what was understood from the very beginning of this incident, uh, well, almost everyone, almost all of us in poland, that is, that here is the responsibility for everything that is happening here for this change and in this also for this incident for what happened yesterday in the in connection with the missile attack on ukraine where everyone there are also secretions in poland for this, one way or another, it means that the all-oswisian federation is not responsible for this, and yes, divanos, and i think that here the majority of people, who how who evaluates it in poland, is aware of the fact that this is actually the case, and no one doubts it what is this situation? what

does it mean here on the part of the russian federation, if we understand this tourist approach of the russian federation, all the components, or could this be an impetus to activate some joint ukrainian-polish projects to strengthen protection e-e sky in the direction of the creation of a joint air defense or some other actions that can really protect poland and ukraine there from such risky actions of the russian federation, yes, it would actually be very logical e-e it would be very logical e-e na my opinion already now er, that is, we know that in poland in the eastern part of the first near the border with ukraine at one time there are hm 500 non-nato systems against connected defense theoretically and in my opinion, as i already said, a very logical step

of the second bt hm eh to to protect so too er so that we uh, our allies are actually like velodors with these equipment on the territory of poland, uh, so that in the event of a threat from witnesses, well, that is probably on the territory of ukraine, but we can see that these threats are already uh, these missiles are already creating a threat to our territory for ours, you have, it was also possible theoretically and technically, it is possible to match it with nato missiles already above it, ukraine is idle, with such a short-strapped smooth-bore and a mini, it would be, it would be very er, tile ok, only cold, then what is there in the pocket about this, there is a solution more political, political, not military, and here it is necessary to appeal to politicians so that they

can make such a decision, and this is what i say, it would be a very logical step, if we take into account the big perspective, of course there is a technical possibility there is the creation of a system of exchange of information, my uh, regarding the joint defense between poland and ukraine. well, it's generally more uh, uh, between uh, nato, because such systems are joint joint monitoring of the situation in the leading space, this increases the level of security of everyone a member of the tahoe system in that case and ukraine and ukraine, but the question of the transfer of polish mig-29 fighter jets is a cross put on this project in general, or can it be deconserved

in view of such an activation, unpredictability, the same roofs, predictably, terrorist activity of the russian federation well, actually, eh i haven't been to such an information space for a long time. it was difficult to hear anything about this topic, unfortunately , because i think it would be very good to return to this and actually implement this already. the fact that the initiative all the more so that it would not be the first airplanes given by the nato country to ukraine in these military conditions as we already have and at this moment as we see after this incident it would also be logical from the point of view from the point of view of our security, as well as the supply of tanks or weapons to ukraine increases our security from the point of view of threats from

russia in the same way and at this moment the transfer of airplanes from poland under the data of the forces of ukraine is a new step as well as would also in these conditions, which we have suspended, if he suspended our security we are talking about constant sargassum from the side, especially in these humors, as there is now a couple too. thank you for this inclusion, thank you for your time and for your professional evaluations. i would like to remind our viewers that dario shmateryniak, the head of the poland-ukraine research center, was on the air of the espresso channel when we we are talking about the actions of the russian federation and the use of missiles , e.e. cruise missiles, in fact, during an attack, russia lays out routes for its missiles in such a way that they fly along the border with russia in the airspace of ukraine and then return to the east to attack from unexpected courses in order to

mislead the ukrainian air defense system so that actually every missile attack is a kind of duel not only of the technical capabilities of the means of attack and means, but also a duel from the point of view of understanding how the enemy will act and actually with from the point of view of the number of downed missiles, we see that our air defense systems, our calculations are able to anticipate actions in advance and understand what the enemy will do. at the same time, we understand that the russian federation resorts to such insidious provocative steps because the actual use of rockets flies there through the territory of moldova, that is, the rockets fly along the border and in the event of being shot down actually really provoke some such actions as it was from poland itself. probably this is an element of the russian strategy, children are so conditional -gray areas when , relatively speaking, it is not directly about an e-e attack or

strikes on the territory of a nato country, but the risks caused by such actions really affect the fact that it requires nato more actively and effectively to after all, move to another level of countering russian aggression. also, i will remind you that in fact, when we talk about russian provocations, this is actually not the only case, probably few people remember the situation that took place, it seems, on september 29, then actually russian planes fired a missile near a british plane in the black sea and this was just the first such bell to the fact that russia will resort to provocations and therefore just when we return again to the situation with poland and the missiles that fell on it territory there are many layers that should be evaluated,

we are currently in touch with mykhailo gonchar, president of the center for global studies, strategy 21, mr. mykhailo . i greet you. if you can hear me, i hear it. good evening, mr. serhiy, greetings to the audience and listeners . actually, the whole father is a russian missile. well, it is not a secret , and in principle, russian propaganda did not hide that the main blows during mass attacks are aimed at the objects of the critical energy infrastructure of ukraine, and precisely on those facilities that are located in the western part of ukraine near the eu and nato borders of poland and slovakia and if there was the next such massive attack, but here if it is not only about

which missile, whose missile or both missiles and interception systems and a russian cruise missile fell on the territory of poland, we are talking about the fact that it is inherent in russia's methodology that it constantly probes nato's reaction in such small steps, let's remember how it was there with the allegedly accidental flight of the tu-141 strij e 10 in march of this year, a drone that flew through the territory of the nato countries of hungary and romania fell under croatian zagreb, and if this was also a probing of nato's reaction, and therefore, in my opinion, the hypothesis is that just yesterday's incident, it was quite deliberately

done because we we do not know the final trajectory of those cruise missiles that were shot down in the western part of ukraine and which, it can be assumed, were headed for the destruction of the objects of the energy system of ukraine, but it can also be assumed that they were aimed precisely at to hit something of little significance, but on the territory of poland . and to look at what nato's reaction will be, we can say that they achieved this goal, but what program was laid into these missiles, well, only those who programmed precisely belyket recently spoke about these officers of the russian armed forces who are engaged in programming in moscow m a-a of the corresponding e-e flights ra