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glory to ukraine is a verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko. good day and good health to all, today is the 266th day of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers, the verkhovna rada extended martial law and general mobilization for another 90 days until february 19, 2023. meanwhile, experts are investigating the origin of the rocket that fell yesterday in poland and killed two people biden already announced that a ukrainian air defense missile fell in poland, according to nato secretary general jens
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stoltenberg, a preliminary analysis revealed that fragments of a ukrainian air defense missile fell on the territory of poland, meanwhile, the secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine, oleksiy danilov, says that for the final conclusions of the experts, an examination is necessary and ukrainian specialists who can go to poland and make their own conclusions, meanwhile, the russian occupiers are losing manpower and equipment in ukraine as of november 16. russia lost 82,710 people in ukraine only in the last day, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 630 orks with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 2,871 tanks, 5,797 armored combat vehicles, 1,860 artillery systems, 393 rocket launchers, 29 air defense systems, 278 aircraft, 261 helicopters, 4,360 units of
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automobile equipment 16 ships, boats, 3,474 cruise missiles, 1,525 drones, 160 units of special equipment, so a missile attack on poland, the reaction of the world and ukraine, putin outside the g20 well, and rammstein 7 today is a virtual meeting of 50 mini defense forces from all countries of the world from all corners of the world and this is all we will talk about in the next hour, our guest diplomat politician minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019 pavlo klimkin mr. pavla i congratulate you glory to ukraine to see you on our air, glory to the heroes, friends, congratulations, congratulations to sergiy, there is still light , uh, there is no wi-fi, but i hope that we will
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hear each other normally, and thank you for the invitation, as they write in social networks, sir, let it be light, but without the muscovites, that's why we will stick to this principle. so, mr. pavlo, let's start with yesterday's incident of a missile falling on the territory of the republic of poland. today is stoltenberg. the secretary general of nato stated that there is currently no evidence that it was a deliberate attack on poland. the investigation is ongoing and the analysis showed a warning . what is likely it was a ukrainian anti-aircraft missile, we will hear from toltenberg the incident is currently happening and we need to wait for its results, but now there are no indicators that it was planned that it was planned attack and there is no evidence that russia is preparing
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another is preparing an attack on nato countries as a result of the analysis that was carried out, we are considering the possibility that the missiles of the ukrainian missile defense system could have just hit the territory of poland, and i want to be clear. if these were indeed air defense missiles, russia bears full responsibility for such accidents, since it is russia that continues its war on the territory of ukraine. it was the secretary general of nato. russia's planned and unplanned attack on nato is
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fundamental, because in the case of a deliberate attack, i understand that it sounds a bit idiosyncratic, but nevertheless , if it is possible to prove the intention, whether politically or factually, then nato should use the fifth article of the nato treaty on the washington treaty, that is, it is known the article on collective defense, i sensed a reluctance to move in the direction involved in this article from the discussions that took place within nato and its allies yesterday, at least i did not feel a consensus, and this means that consultations took place poland even declared that it does not yet see the need for nato consultations under the
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fourth article of the treaty for all explanations, e-e article 4 means that one of the allies sees a danger for itself, it can quickly, in fact, immediately apply a special consultation procedure, therefore, as of today, nato is trying to reduce tensions e it is important that, of course, since it worries many ukrainians, even if it is proven that it is a missile of the anti-aircraft forces, it is responsibility, and responsibility, as political and military and very important moral for everything that has happened and will happen
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lies exclusively on the kremlin and the russian regime and there are no uh-uh attempts to somehow blame us for that and by the way according to the un charters we have russia has an absolute right to defense, of course. it has been a long time since we spat, but we, as civilized people, understand the value of international law. by the way, i will remind everyone that it is not further. as yesterday, putin once again spat on international law and said that russia will act according to some historical tradition, where is this the historical tradition is written down and is absolutely clear in putin's head, therefore we assume that putin has not changed his goals regarding ukraine in any way,
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even despite the fundamental defeats both around kherson and er-er around the big 20 p. pavla secretary of the council of national security and defense oleksiy danilov stated that ukraine would like experts from our side to be in this commission, which will find out what kind of rocket it was that entered the territory of the republic of poland and, in addition, according to the report the nsdc of ukraine urgently requests access to the site of the explosion to the representative of the ministry of defense of ukraine and the state border guard service of ukraine. yesterday there was one of the most massive missile attacks on the territories of the ukrainian state by the russian occupiers. this is the second large-scale attack on the territory of ukraine after february 24, but in this story with
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a missile that fell in poland unfortunately, two people died, of course the story is that a hundred rockets flew from east to west, relatively speaking from the territory of the russian federation or from the airspace of the russian federation from the caspian sea today is not so lively discussed as the actual fall of this missile is the world getting used to these massive shellings or simply in this situation it was about the start or non-start of the third world war if nato applied the fifth paragraph of the north atlantic treaty statute and that and something else definitely takes place, we have unfortunately to say that it is an addiction, it is not a dominant trend and support for ukraine in the world, especially in the western
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world, is concrete so far, we see that in germany now it is stable, 74-75%. russia very much i hope that from next month, when people receive new bills, new payments for gas and electricity, they will look at our war in a different way, let's hope. nevertheless, there is an element of getting used to it, and it's not people's fault, it 's basically psychology. i remember her on other occasions when people were worried, people sympathized, people were ready to help, but over time it all persists, nevertheless, new challenges arise in
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people's lives, this is psychology, it is not an easy task for us to maintain the level of emotion and support of ukraine, and together with the fact that we are fighting against the russian aggressor, we have to do it too, and we have to do it in the western world, this is an easier task, but also outside the western world, and by the way, the last meeting, the very last twenties at the ball, also showed this because the discussions with china, well china is understandable because china is not yet ready to hand over putin. and no, as a vassal and not a junior partner, it’s not that they respect putin there, of course.
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such a rather neutral position and we must consistently show, as they say on the fingers, what is this war about, what are the stakes in this war, what is our existence, why is this exactly what russia is doing, and the main thing is that it can happen to each of them tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, if they do not invest now in the history of our support, what is the guarantee that missiles will not fly at them tomorrow and take away their existence, and in general, this is the moment of truth for the world if the world does not support ukraine enough, i emphasize not just supports, but will support enough , then what is the guarantee that we will not be there the day after tomorrow we will have every other country in the world that will have and acquire nuclear weapons or means of delivery, and we
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will then live in a completely different world , pandora's box will open to the full, and i believe that yesterday's shelling was by no means average, we have to show it again to our western friends and non-western countries, this is actually about the nationalization of our war. look, it affected moldova, there were power outages, it affected hungary, our friends in the clutches of rivals, oil transit stopped there what happened yesterday in poland, and of course we are relatives of the victims, we also saw it and we see that it is already a real threat to europe today, this is a missile,
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now, uh, russian, fly to berlin or warsaw, then they will finally cut off any of their resources and why not, then there will be some murders or terrorist acts, and this is all absolutely real, you need to be ready for this, because russia, to a large extent, owes its existence to this monstrous, monster-like regime to europe. what did europe do? received sufficiently cheap energy carriers, sold their goods in russia, then received money for it from the russian elite who invested, and now this dependence must be stopped and understand that not supporting ukraine this means not supporting yourself, this is a constant, we have to repeat well, returning
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to your thesis that, unfortunately, a certain addiction there is and we must prevent this, by the way, the president of lithuania is talking about the same thing. russia needs to react, he says, we will hear from the president that such incidents as in poland can happen again. i don't want to scare you, but this is a threat provoked by russia, to which we must respond in order to ensure the safety of our people. well, immediately after this incident happened in poland and ukraine the party began to talk about the need to close the skies of ukraine official kyiv is already talking about this starting from february 24, 2022 germany strongly condemns russian attacks on ukraine that
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caused a rocket to fall on the territory of poland but continues to speak out against closing the sky over ukraine, about it for his representative of the press service of the federal government of germany, wolfreng büstgner, at a briefing in berlin on wednesday, the correspondent of ukrinform reports. the creation of a no-love zone creates a direct risk of conflict between nato and russia. and all allies share the opinion that they want to prevent the escalation of the war in ukraine, this is the fear mr. pavla, to prevent escalation, somehow to infiltrate, somehow to fight with russia, or somehow not to touch and not to offend the kremlin, and in particular regarding the closing of the sky over ukraine, because we see that rockets are flying, or let's say as a result of the russian-ukrainian war, rockets are already flying in poland, what does this mean?
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can lead to uh-huh in europe, that is, what europe can get as a result of this why are they so slow why do they not want to be included in the general security scheme of european security because ukraine is a european state it is located in the center of europe and fear does not interfere until now. since we have learned not to be afraid, they have not yet learned, they are still afraid of putin and the fact that , driven into a dead end, he will start escalation and possibly nuclear escalation, that's why there are so many conversations with the non-western world and with the chinese at 20. let's not stir up nuclear rhetoric, of course, it looks kind of bad sometimes, and secondly, they are also afraid of what will happen if they start
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raising rates, or will it start some kind of uncontrollable process in relation to russia, they this this too, they are afraid of the nightmare, not everyone needs to give credit to the west, too, uh, there is a tendency that putin sees himself as he is. well, everything is clear about the second army of the world. well, almost everyone in the whole world, but many other points are still treated by our allies, they still do not supply we have a lot of important types of weapons, these are missiles with larger radios, drones and armored vehicles, well actually planes, and that is why they
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are in this circle. uses weakness. that is, we have constant support for ukraine, but the desire to go on the offensive always requires very difficult and painful discussions in the west. and in general, the echit should do work on mistakes. and what has he been doing all these years and why is putin the way he is? why did he acquire all these opportunities where he took financial resources for this and this work on mistakes has not yet begun i certainly do not compare it with the times after totalitarian regimes such as nazi germany it cannot be parallel in any way but this kind of work on mistakes, i emphasize, must necessarily
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be in europe and then they will stop being endlessly afraid and will leave their mentality that everything in life must be insured, but we are still fighting for ourselves, but we are also fighting for the poles, someone is sure in paris, they think that the war will not reach them, but anything can happen to this russia, and this is constantly but very gradually entering the minds of our uh, our friends, therefore, on the one hand, the support is consistent. yes, we are very grateful for it, it is truly unprecedented, but west must overcome his tag to see putin and his regime as they are. this is how you are now. i see a picture on the screen. you show putin. putin is sitting around
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him. he is there, or whatever they call it in russia, and we need to stop being afraid of them and understand that if we are afraid of russia so who are we still afraid of china we are afraid of whom we are afraid we need to finally put an end to all fear what measure has always had and still partly has in relation to the russian regime friends we are at the same time live on the espresso tv channel and also on our social networks on youtube and facebook. if you are currently watching us on social networks, please like this video so that it can be promoted in the youtube trends on youtube. you can also find a sponsor button under this video, you can become a sponsor of our channel, participate in the creation of our content financially, we will thank you for any support on our broadcast pavlo klimkin politician diplomat minister of foreign
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affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019 well, mr. pavlo, i can't help but ask you about what preceded actually yesterday, and the shelling, the massive shelling of the russian territory of this territory of ukraine, the big summit at the ball, the president of ukraine is called the big 20, because putin did not come there, sergei lavrov came there, the day before, the two met the leaders from the floating states of america and china, joe biden and xi jinping. and actually what was said at the meeting already after the meeting that these two countries agreed or at least articulate that nuclear war should never be fought oppose the threat of using nuclear weapons in ukraine, and about the fact that the united states of america and china will compete in the world, but this should not develop into a
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further conflict. at the summit, zelensky spoke online and said that he has a 10-point formula for peace, which he made public again, russia did not take an active part in the discussion of what zelensky said, there were only lavrov's comments that it was unacceptable for russia, but considering this beck who was before a massive missile attack on the territory of ukraine, did biden and all ding-ping considering that russia is considered a proxy state of china and china should somehow put putin in his place or at least explain to putin that he should not be an official factor and experts are constantly trying to convince everyone that china cannot order putin, i don’t know how to order
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but say things which putin will not just eat, where the attention will be considered, we unfortunately lost contact with pavel klimkin very unstable connection mobile connection pavlo klimkin leaves the mobile internet, unfortunately, his home internet does not work, which on warned about this at the beginning of the program, we are talking about the situation that arose after the fall of a rocket on the territory of poland on the evening of november 15 and about the world's reaction to it well, of course, we are talking about those events that are happening synchronously in parallel with this massive missile attack by mr. pavlova again in contact with us, yes, sergey, and the connection is such that we have this connection, sorry. the main thing is that
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we should not apologize to anyone and be worthy . with by the chinese leader. a couple of days ago, all the world 's media were very simply looking at all the gestures like who shakes whose hand, how does he take it, how many steps, and i have the impression that the meeting was not unsuccessful. i believe that the order of the position, the meeting was even successful, in particular, this agreement on the visit of blinkin to china is worth a lot, and it is important for me that biden is also important . everyone left the meeting in general with good
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humor, with a good mood, of course, they have fundamental differences, this is taiwan in the first place and not only that, but it is important that china takes a very consistent position in relation to russia and says for the first time to shut up with all its words about the use of nuclear weapons, this is not simply unacceptable, we will beat you for this in a second moment eh it is important that china pressure russia with the fact that putin was starting to prepare not for those negotiations that they constantly offer there, but for real negotiations, precisely for real ones where we and the west will
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act from a position of strength well, and the third point, in my opinion, it would be significant for china to start now i tried to help ukraine more, i tried to convey to our western friends the idea that china could help us in real time with the restoration of the energy infrastructure, the potential of industrial china, it allows it, i know what they said about it, we will hear the answer from china in the near future. of course, there are nuances and china will not surrender putin, we understand that perfectly well but nevertheless, the meeting of the twenty was not just a humiliation for putin putin behaved absolutely rude well, first of all, he did not address even online to other world leaders, and i believe
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that the main reason why he did not go to the ball is not his health, not his desire to be in moscow, not some political considerations or reluctance to listen to harsh things, but it is simply that he is afraid, he is afraid to fly at the ball he is afraid that someone there will eliminate him, this is a fear and for that very reason
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