there must be some kind of night. by the way, i don't think that this application of the fifth article of nato will happen, i do n't expect it, but what would be useful for us, let's look at it like this. is this a flight? are there versions that it’s just that the ukrainian skirmishers tried to intercept a russian missile and didn’t intercept it. it fell on poland themselves. but in any case, it will make nato think about the same thing. a missile attack on the same infrastructure object on the territory of a nato member state, poland, or other countries , is there a proper political readiness to react, or is there really any possibility , not to react, because i often talk in the west with people who believe in nato absolutely a holiday that

they believe that russia will never attack there, they covered nato because it is impossible because she will never do it and if she does it, she will literally turn into a molecule in a second it's just not like that because in fact i'm just a military man i know that in nato simply does not have the military power and political readiness to strike back, and this attack on polish territory has brought nato a little closer, as it seems to me, to the understanding that these mechanisms must be imagined, that there must already be a concrete reaction mechanism to the attack on the state's territory - member, he killed people so that it wouldn't happen when you are going there, they start discussing there hungary is blocking uh, there the country that was struck is raging so that it turns into just a sign of weakness and in any case, it seems to me that now these

mechanisms have finally started to be produced. look, regardless of what it was and how, there is one more nuance that we must understand with these missile attacks . why do the russians make them? - firstly because they can, and secondly because they can with impunity, well, they flew into the territory there over the cosmic sea, there is no way for the ukrainian armed forces to get there, and that's why they calmly take off, and in the grand scheme of things, it seems to me that this story stopped very quickly if well, at least one plane over the caspian sea took off and fell suddenly after take-off, that's how much uh... and what kind of weapon can get there anyway , come on, let's not talk about such a question now, well, that is, what can get to that place, like objectively saying that what could be shot there theoretically answer theoretically ah

well theoretically i don't know if there was an opportunity to pledge which drones and bridges that have now been successfully used in sevastopol could be, but i really don't think that they will stop because of that because in the city of cases, even those rockets that it uses from a fairy tale they are so technically outdated that they can actually be introduced if they fall , for example, in the area of ​​stavropol, but somehow this did not stop them, so if it is theoretically, if a plane falls into them there, will it ever start, that's why you are there ships, it will be cool, but they will still try, and about what can be obtained. well, if we are talking about what ukraine has at its disposal, then only sabotage groups and the same drones, if they can be delivered again in some way an order from the territory of a third country to launch that for now sooner well, i don't know. it's a matter of speculation, tell me. is there a

possibility that something could reach there? well, i'm not saying. now, again, i'm only theoretically clear about what the planes that are at the disposal of ukraine can carry. it seems to me that he it seems to me that there is only one thing that theoretically, well, it is even more obvious that there could be pedals, that is the weight, but now he only tomagaved it on a sea- based basis. they are reworking now, they are trying to do it, but as far as i know, it is not yet at home. therefore, we now have such a problem that we have nothing to start with, especially something of a significant basis that could defeat the purpose of the order. i think not, and it seems to me that they will not want to give it to us because everything is capable once to the goal of an order capable of developing goals in moscow and for some reason they don't want

to give us anything to give fortune-telling of whole bridges i don't know why so well i also think that this is some kind of wrong position well but that's our opinion after you and okay come on this is somehow more or less clear. let's move on to kherson and say a few words about it. look , we've been talking for weeks here, in principle, about what they have. the russians have to leave kherson because they have no way out from my point of view. the russians were waiting. how can you possibly laugh, but they were waiting for the us elections. i believe that they were waiting for the us elections in the hope that something would magically change there and well, they always are. they are fighting with the natopes. we all know that they are fighting with nato, they talk about it every day. and how is nat to win? not in a state. and so after these elections, america should have stopped the supply of weapons to ukraine. it is already clear that this will not happen from the word of mouth, that is why we had to leave kherson without waiting for further deterioration of the situation, but

now the question is about... well, they left kherson, they probably sincerely believed that for ukraine to stop along the dnipro river, this is the only possible course of action. and from our point of view, is it worth stopping now on the line on the right bank? well, first of all, i believe in principle that they were waiting for the elections in the states. - the second eh well, why does it make no sense for us to stop at all, on my heart, to stop only at the russian border , and that’s why it’s not like that, i mean the real russian border, why do we need to stop at the dnieper, if beyond the dnieper is the same kherson region and the same ukraine, somehow i am too i don't understand. if you russians were hoping that we wouldn't cross the dnieper. well, we're already going, and the only question is

whether they'll be able to somehow try to jump us. so far, they have some problems with this. it's good that andriy joins us. teteruk is a volunteer officer the formation of a free ukraine, and i, in fact, probably also have this question, i will add, regarding what should be done beyond the dnipro river in the area of ​​the kherson region, do we already have mr. andrii oh, andriy cheers to better health i, our glorious ukrainian nations, sit down in ukraine, mr. andrii, what do you think, uh, do we have a potential opportunity to move further in the kherson region beyond the left bank of the dnieper, and in general, what are we like there ? last moment once proved the information we received from

our observers that the russian federation concentrated the most combat-capable units in the southern direction, obviously preparing some scenario for the development of hostilities in the southern part of the front, and these troops were not actually defeated as a result of, let's say, fire damage they really suffered in the same way as the ukrainians suffer from, say, fire duels, but now the russians have used such military maneuvers as planned withdrawal under control, they left only here the equipment that the ukrainian military had already set fire to the rest, they tried to move it as much as possible in a controlled manner, including now to the territory of the crimean peninsula, trying to preserve the combat capability of this group, it is obvious that this scenario was accepted under the full pressure of the fire control of the ukrainian armed forces,

which broke and destroyed these logistical chains that provided an intense daily non-stop barrage of fire created by the russian artillery on our positions ukrainian troops, and now that they are deprived of doing this, when they are deprived of the ability to ensure the grouping of troops, they made such a withdrawal, but we say why so carefully , why did people understand that this withdrawal of troops does not mean a panicked flight, as many people can imagine. they are trying to use the new conditions in order not to abandon the continuation of aggression against ukraine, but obviously they want to implement some scenarios that will allow them to impose their own rules of conduct the war that they finally lost, well, in my opinion , that within this year, when they simply missed

the successful counteroffensive of ukrainian troops in the east, and now they are desperately trying to find a scenario that would allow them to return the initiative to their side, i don't think it will be possible, what should we do we have to do one thing here, i was not distracted. although it is very nice that kherson is back under the control of the ukrainian authorities and got rid of the occupying russian regime, but i would not allow myself to reveal such an emotional swing our focus of attention, we should be happy. only when we reach the state border of ukraine, including the crimea, donetsk, luhansk regions, we will liberate our ukrainian territory from the russian occupation forces, it will be such an intermediate victory that will prove that we have won is on the front line, but there will remain a lot of situations where we will continue

the struggle in diplomatic and political dimensions, because for us there will remain a threat of territorial claims of the russian federation due to inclusion in part of the ukrainian territories in its constitution, and until we force the russian federation to rewrite its constitution, our war will actually continue. and further, because now this status quo is absolutely unique when one territory is written in the constitutions of several countries and a lot of people are not only they think , but in general they believe that the headquarters is there - some kind of situation will happen there, putin will die or we will go to the borders there and everything will be fine, we have won, no, in fact, we have a huge task ahead of us volume of work well, let's not only say on the front line and internal issues as well, so we have something to do and relax exactly for the sake of, well, right now , we haven't even reached our borders,

we don't have anything to relax, tell us your impression, actually. well, we we see that there is enough multi-mining there, but in kherson itself, are there any such mines around there, you know? well, they are critical, when houses are mined there, when they are mined in such a way, because well, when there are barrage mines there, uh, in the fields, well, it is clear that their positions are there somewhere they were not doing something there, but what is meant is that these are the ones. well, what is happening there, that is, what is the general situation behind this? kherson was intensively preparing for street battles, and therefore part of the road sections in the direction of kherson , mastiff, and other objects were mined this is also known to the ukrainian top military leadership and i think that the sappers carry out the appropriate demining of objects before entering there and the enemy used not only demining of

positions but also a lot of many civilian objects have been mined and are being mined, and i think that this is a completely understandable situation and our sappers are doing their job of demining, uh, we have to be ready for this because the enemy. he has a huge availability of appropriate weapons in order to create this danger so that, well, yes, there is such a fact. well, he is not critical. this area of ​​the area, so this is one of the types of threats that will be unmanned by the forces of the ukrainian armed forces. that's all we have, but even our review is related to the fact that the artillery bombardment of kherson was expected,

as if it was not there at least these previous days and how the situation is now in general, with regard to the work of russian artillery in this direction, to note the nuances, there are no nuances, everything adds to the scouted targets, fire damage is inflicted. well, in fact, it concerns both the russian side and the ukrainian complexity the only nuance is that i can say with the testimony of our development units that the russians cover their positions quite competently with the means of anti-aircraft defense and practically all types of drones from small to large ones that can carry a positive load there up to 10 12 kg of them. practically all of them are weakened and destroyed, that is, you have to search here and very skillfully

. to destroy it as much as possible, and only when we have already suppressed it to the ground we can actively use all eh or detailed devices from small quadcopters of some kind ending with helicopters and aviation because eh here the enemy eh has drawn conclusions that ukraine is not take it, and they are serious enough now to work on all issues related to the organization of defense in those areas that they already control and which, well, obviously , they are going to surrender, although again, they did not intend to do much, but let's say ukrainian er, the military machine is forcing them to change their numerical plans, er, for everything related to ukraine. so we will see how events will develop not

only in the southern but also in the eastern direction or in other areas, because now we see the north as well under close scrutiny by the general staff of ukraine, which accordingly issued such an informational warning to the belarusian military to heed the proposal of the russians to join hostilities against ukraine, believes that preventive measures are always better than liquidation afterwards consequences that could not be prevented, perhaps we will talk a little about other directions, er, because in other directions, well, of course, they have built there, now the russians have built, you know , a line of defense along the left bank in the area of ​​the kherson region. important in the region of zaporizhzhia oblast is that way further south, and

this is the real question for me, for god's sake. even attempts of some kind of offensive actions, as pictors, what do you think about this, what can be there in general, what can be important for them there, i already have signals, a bunch of people, quite a lot of poplars, uh, well, they really retreated in that direction, and really in the zaporizhzhia region now there is a big consultation of the russians about the attack. well, honestly, i don’t think so. i don’t see where to go. well, still try to elect zaporozhye there. it seems to me that he doesn’t have the capacity for it now, but in terms of defense, in terms of going into the ground and trying to give the ukrainians break the corridor to the crimea, this is what i think they can do, it seems to me that this is exactly what they will do, mr. andriy. and what do you think about this in

the area of ​​that very place? well, we are a little above melitopol, we can expect only defense, or maybe something else, defense, no war to win and putin needs victory therefore, obviously he will force his generals to use all available human resources, ending with material weapons technology in order to seize the initiative, as i already said, and impose it's the course of events that they are will control and not what is done over time, as they say, it is obvious that in the southern direction, as i already said, very highly professional, motivated units , including specialists, were assembled there to count three brigades of non-airborne troops these are definitely troops not for conducting defense, they are for conducting offensive operations, including

in the depth of the enemy's rear, that's why these troops are carefully preserved. obviously, they are counting on some maneuvers that will allow them to develop success in which area which part of the front the russian military chiefs will decide to use their strike groups, i don't know, i would know that, well, obviously, and i wouldn't say it on tv. this is definitely not a matter of public discussion. but i think that all these scenarios that they are trying to implement, they are all divided into several important segments , firstly, the russian federation, despite the huge number of e-e military personnel and the units they use, they do not have a unified system of military management e that e-e is critical

it is important for carrying out such military operations that russia is currently waging against our country, you do not have a completely separate set of various military units of the national guard, some of wagner’s private campaigns, some of the volunteer units, some there are generally er horns and hooves and with all this junk they are trying to conduct some unique military operations, well, it is obvious that it will not work because they tried to er drag all this junk here in order to simply break the ability of ukrainians to resist and then to clear this territory from particularly violent uh, as it was repeatedly voiced not only by russian uh propagandists, but also by certain politicians that there is a complete plan to force ukraine to turn it into, let's say, a submissive belarus uh, where people are no longer capable of

systematic resistance they had such plans, but it is obvious that as a result of the systematic qualitative resistance of ukraine, this whole mixture of e-e turned out to be incapable of conducting systematic military operations, as of today, they have by no means strengthened e-e, we are governed by these developed units, and more, we see that they have very serious conflicts between, for example, the military leadership and the generals, who, by the way, were appointed to positions by putin and this verbal conflict that occurs with criticism that the russian military is not capable of performing tasks of their supreme commander, they create an additional degree of tension not only between the beautiful generals there, but in fact it also spreads to units that also begin to have conflicts between personal

contact lines, where they should feel each other's shoulder there, in order to interact successfully, because without horizontal connections, the unit is simply doomed to be taken out of the front line. i can say from my own experience that you must not only clearly understand the picture, well, on the field, our sector of responsibility is yours, but also clearly understand who is doing what on the right, left, in the depth of the rear, in order to clearly understand with whom you interact, which is the closest there, the order of action is further. and if he openly mocks and tortures wagner, and he is engaged in dealing with oppressed christians there, especially there , the chechens do whatever they want

. we are supposed to be one army, all this actually indicates such a degradation of this army. i am not saying that they are nothing, they are a very serious enemy and adversary not only due to their number but due to the fact that they do not have there are no moral or any volume restrictions, and that is, it is like a huge, you know, gang formation , armed with all kinds of weapons, including nuclear weapons, which are not used yet, so the danger is very serious. in military operations, this whole hmmm military mixture that opposes us is not capable of being better than the quality of systemic resistance, especially with the high level of military art demonstrated by our commander-in-chief uh, valery zaluzhny, so we'll see, the threat is really serious, including those mobilized,

who have now strengthened those units that uh, well, launched military operations against ukraine. we will look at the areas of the territory, the situation remains very threatening in the east of our country, eh, the scenario is not over yet. in my opinion, with this withdrawal of troops in the south of the country, we must be ready for any variant of the development of events, and obviously eh i say we can calm down only when we reach the borders of our state border, until that moment every day is critically important and can radically change a lot of things in the theater of hostilities, we must be aware of this and not fall into not to fall into a whirlwind, we must be focused on our victory itself, we must make maximum efforts without stopping, without reducing the pace, on the contrary

, it is being built up in order not to let the enemy and the enemy seize the initiative, these are very, very important things well, by the way, here are your very interesting positions regarding the internal situation in the russian troops, but in continuation of this, i would probably ask viktor about what... well, look, first of all , the russians really saved from kherson airborne units of the airborne forces and artillery are the main thing that they tried to save and withdraw, and considering that now these are the points where they are making the most efforts, and by the way, where the same wagner tank is located, it is bakhmut and ugle, ugledar, these are their points of such attention . well, in theory, we could expect exactly that these units of the airborne forces will go there, and that is where the greatest attention will be further. and it is there that we have

to think accordingly. well, how to counter this, because there then you need to have some kind of counter-counter-strategy, well, viktor, what do you think about this? well, me it seems, first of all, that they saved the airborne forces only because they are the only ones left in them, more or less two, capable of artillery, for obvious reasons, because valeria is the main force of this uh-uh, can we expect their movement to the uglydarma and optically, but here we need to know more deeper situation directly in the russian troops than we know now, including the internal situation, including the issue of command, because so far we mostly see that the same people who are now trying to gain political weight in the russian federation are playing the first violin in the same directions i mean the wagnerites and the academicians, but we say that viktor viktor i say this from the point of view of the fact that it is

precisely syrovikin and kadyrov and prigozhin who seem to have quite a good relationship, that is, it would be after all, such a story that they could find a common language is such and such a real thing can be expected simply, i would remind it for now, i do not know whether the direct subordination of those units and directly the plans of the russian leadership is dostable, although it is possible. so, for now, we are observing them transfer from zaporozhye and to the eastern part of the kherson region. but then they can transfer it to the donetsk direction, of course, they can also try to transfer it to close the land in the luhansk direction, the situation here is already such that it is not there is no such direction now, which should not have been strengthened for the russians, it is all important, the donetsk direction is important, we will introduce what is to come, it is important to know how many directions, if you lose it, you will simply lose the war, and the luhansk

direction is important, because now ukraine is advancing there and can once again slightly depress the mood in russian society that's why i wouldn't see any kind of secondary front in my troops, which, well, the air force is another feature of them . to guarantee something for yourself, you know , to support the offensive of the forces by what to do with it well, that's how i am in principle well, such a leisurely amount of thinking can be considered eh okay, let's know that we literally have a couple of minutes left eh, let's say a couple of words well, let's say about the luhansk direction, because there are such battles, you know , they seem to have moved to such a state. well, they seem to be positional, but they have not moved from the other side , there is still an advance there, then the village was recaptured, then the

russians took it back. again then repelled er, what is there from the concentrated russians and what can be expected literally a couple of words per minute let each of you express let's go mr. andriy tell me what you think about that plan well, i can only analyze the real course of events and what the russians are putting pressure on the most let's say yes, in their opinion, weak positions or they are trying to seize advantageous areas of the terrain that will allow them to have tactical advantages, and therefore they do not spare the personnel there to knock out ukrainian troops, our ukrainian armed forces is coping with this influx so far, they are gaining positions somewhere else, they are maneuvering, everything is normal and the course of events when each of the parties, uh, does not want to give up, has a high motivation to fulfill the assigned tasks, that is why it is difficult, difficult in the east,

our guys are there. well, indeed, a very serious confrontation with the russian federation, but they are fulfilling their purpose. they are protecting the ukrainian land and every day they are reducing the quantity and quality of the russian armed forces, so it should be right, because we should be lucky with military luck and glory to ukraine, what are we talking about in general, those or the russian troops that are located in the luhansk region? given a large number of mobics well, that is logical because they are probably separate