these are completely different things. they will not have the opportunity to accumulate the resource, they will exclusively spend it, that is why it is during the winter period that the armed forces of ukraine should not pause hostilities, and i can see it now based on the events that are taking place on the front lines the confrontation that no one will put on pause, it is precisely the pressure on the occupiers that will continue throughout the winter , i will also ask about bakhmut, how important is this position now? prigozhina and so on, is it still a key point on the front now? it can only be partially connected with some kind of politics, some ambitions , and they are present. bakhmut avdiivka vugledar, these

three locations are very important. because if the armed forces are present there, they have full fire control over the railway from the east to the south, and for the russian occupiers, who now have big problems in securing the southern group through the crimean peninsula e railway across the crimean bridge it is not enough well there is no effective use and they can not try from the east er-e to use the railway to the south to supply already through the east and until you control the bakhmut audio station and also ugledar and you cannot provide this supply in the southern group, mr. oleksandr, you said that everything will depend on how our partners will support us after two people died in poland as a result of being hit by rocket fragments . investigation whose missile is it, russian or ukrainian, which was trying to intercept the russian

one, did it accidentally fly there? president biden, er, just said that not so long ago he said that he was still not sure that it was not a ukrainian missile. he was probably responding to the words of volodymyr zelenskyi, who claims that he is ready to vouch that it is definitely not a ukrainian missile actually . this is this incident, he and those statements that were made before that, but about what is possible, it is time to talk about some peace talks and maybe russia our partners even hint at this, they are with us, and this incident on polish territory convinced them once again that they should be with us and support us more, because many ukrainians appreciate nato's silence and what they are not saying yet nothing as concrete as treason. well, i would

n't call it treason because what nato should have done. that's what it's all about, and to use the fifth article of collective security, and in connection with that, there was no direct aggression on the territory of the nato country, but a direct aggression a-a did not happen this everything can be interpreted as an incident, of course, the result of which was the war in ukraine, that is, the actions of the russian federation, not ukraine in this case. it is to blame, even if it could have been, for example , our anti-aircraft missile, and the use of this anti-aircraft missile was a response to aggression by the russian federation, and therefore you are in any case russia, our international partners understand this very well. but they also emphasize that russia is the source of all the

problems that are happening now, and in relation to the rockets really until the investigation is finished and its results are not announced, say what kind of rocket it is or whether it is a rocket , official persons cannot, no official person can state 100% until the investigation is completed and involve the fourth article well, it would be inappropriate in general. it would not even be logical in this case. but to use the fourth article, what did the nato countries do? yes, they used the fourth article. it is the defense capabilities of the country directly , poland, and in general countries that have a common border and nato countries that have a common border with the russian federation and not only with ukraine

, also because well, after all, we understand that it is quite a high risk now that russian missiles can fly and on the territory of neighboring countries because moldova is not a nato country. and recently a russian missile was destroyed on the territory of moldova, it fell on the territory of moldova. this is war and they are very good at it. understand and the most important thing is that these events can significantly accelerate the provision of new anti-zone and missile systems to ukraine to strengthen and increase the effectiveness of our air defense information resistance was with us. we also thank our viewers who, despite everything, stay with us and write to us from israel what, pavlo kulyk, i don’t know how in ukraine during the bombing, ukrainians look at your tare lions, you have no idea what the use of espresso is. i am abroad, israel is grateful to you for the truth and timely

information thank you, it's a little more difficult for ukrainians to watch, of course, in such conditions, because sometimes the light disappears and the internet. well, it happens that in the shelters there is not always a connection to watch, but thank you for this for this comment. thank you for watching. it actually disappears on the number of connections is not only electricity , but we also see that we have information , e.e. prime minister shmagal said that the new missile attacks on ukraine are actually aimed at gas production , e.e. mining is bombed by ours enterprises in dnipro, pivdenmash said shmyhal well , let's talk a little about this actually with viktoria boytsitka, people's deputy of ukraine of the 8th convocation, secretary of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on the fuel and energy complex, nuclear policy and nuclear safety of the 8th convocation mrs. viktoriya , i hope you have a good day that you are safe, we are

safe, we hope that you are also, actually, this is some kind of new energy system at first, now gas production is a new round of missile attacks a new invention of the russian federation, unfortunately, i have to say no, because in fact we watched the destruction or attempts to destroy it, including several of our deposits in march. it was in april, this mine was destroyed more than 40 of gas distribution centers then again in february in march. that is, these are the facilities that allow gas to be supplied directly to consumers, and in those months we had almost half a million people who were left without gas, and this

there were people who, including both lived in cities and outside the boundaries of large cities, that's why i want. which supply gas for the needs of both industry and the population, that this trend will continue this winter, we at our international center of ukrainian victory, when we met with leading politicians and journalists outside ukraine, both in europe and the united states, we talked about it, we talked about it on this was emphasized, explained precisely the need to provide ukraine with weapons that would protect these objects, and even before the beginning of winter, we talked about this all the time, but, unfortunately, they did not really

listen to us and to the servants, as well as to the representatives of the ukrainian authorities, so what you and i see it now, it's just uh, and even now we have taken one category of energy objects and therefore they are being hit in order to cause maximum damage and make life simply absolutely unbearable, impossible for the maximum number of people in ukraine during the winter well, here is a very simple strategy , you don't need to be a super-analyst in order to understand what the russians are trying to achieve, you should cut off both electricity and gas, it is aimed primarily at the civilian population, er, because the russians explain it there officially, i understand what it is of course, it’s worth laughing. but nevertheless, it is explained by the fact that in this way they want to hinder the logistics of weapons in ukraine. i wonder if you

would react, after all, it is aimed simply in order to realize the civilian population. i am completely with you i agree, the main and key goal here is the population - this is a free population, and that is why we see hits on critical infrastructure objects that provide heat, which provide gas, which provides electricity , it is the population, and we see that when it goes we are talking about the military part of the component yes. when we talk about how it affects our military , i want to assure you that it is not very big, but it does have an effect. thanks be to god, our ability to repel the enemy and even under such conditions is still it still remains quite serious and strong , therefore it is definitely the same. by the way,

the strategy is absolutely the same strategy as the word russia when it bombed the civilian population, the relevant objects, including hospitals in syria. by the way, everything here is aimed at making as painful as possible for all those losses and defeats and not achieving great military victories, for all this the ukrainian population is now paying, in any case, this is exactly how the people in the kremlin and a large part of the bloodthirsty population of russia see it the federation must surely understand that and this is our contribution of all civilians, this victory is also the fact that the load is the stability of our policy readiness tests by the way, the forecast is comforting enough that in europe this winter is expected to be mild with

relatively low high temperatures for european of course it is good news for europeans. this is also good news, or even now the calculations that i have seen show that europe will consume much less gas that they have already pumped into their storage, which in of them are already ready for consumption in the winter period of 22-23 and this volume, which you can additionally stop as such a security cushion in order to pass the next winter period, because for europe, unlike us, the key question was how to survive the next winter and for this winter there was not enough gas. and for the next one, taking into account all the restrictions and barbos and the termination of relations with russia , precisely for the supply of gas, and russia was one of the

main suppliers of more than 40%, what about someone from russia? now for them, of course, this is a big plus what the winter will be warm, the only question is that when you talk to the relevant politicians in europe and i explain to them that when ukraine does not have the same light, please don't paint a beautiful picture in your head, how do you like to talk about it so that ukrainians come home, sit at the table and romantically have dinner with their loved ones with candles on the table and he begins to explain what it is like to live, just imagine in big cities where there is no light, high-rise buildings where people are stuck with children in elevators where people are inclined of age who need special help, they can not receive it in time because medical

representatives cannot simply climb up to the 80th floor every day with intimate equipment and medicines that need to be brought that in our hospitals, we also have problems with ensuring stable e -e supply of electricity and we now completely depend on how well the same diesel generators will work. in short, when you explain all this to them, they start to react a little differently. it seems that in ukraine again chervonograd, there is no light in certain cities, they simply through the prism of specific stories and examples begin to understand little by little what it is like to live in conditions where there are no basic elementary things without which, well, life in big cities becomes very difficult, and this is a test that millions of ukrainians are steadfastly going through now. for this, of course, they have respect and

respect for all of us for this, but in our european countries, but there are also, they could help us a little in order to, for example, work more efficiently on the issue of providing such equipment as transformers, which russia simply destroys e-e by dozens throughout ukraine so that we simply become from them well, we have problems with the stability of electricity supply e-e in cities and not only in cities, in villages and so on throughout ukraine, and our european partners could i would like to talk more specifically with our own manufacturers, for example, in germany, switzerland, and canada. it’s fine . it’s across the ocean, but it doesn’t stop. by the way, half of south korea turned out to be a manufacturer of such equipment. there are many manufacturers, but all these

producers are private companies and they explain to us that they have contracts, these contracts are for months. if we are with them for years, it is already for their contracted capacity, and they cannot, from the financial point of view, and from the point of view of their image , e-e, go to that to make ukraine's priorities number one, because then they will have rehearsal risks and the consequences are negative and financial, they have to pay fines to third parties who will order equipment from them, that's why we talk to the europeans so that they convince their manufacturers to make the needs of ukrainians the number one priority or let them prepare places for tens of millions of ukrainian refugees in this warm and beautiful winter, who will simply flee from the cold and hunger, uh, because living in apartment buildings, well, in the village, it is still somehow possible, and apartment buildings, because light, heat, without sewage, we

understand perfectly well with you that if it will last conditionally for weeks to months, then people will be forced to look for a place where they can at least spend the winter this winter, because this winter will change a little anyway for the future. maybe for a decade, the idea of ​​the real estate market in in ukraine, for some reason , those high-rise buildings still remain terribly popular, there are 20 plus floors, where apartments can be insanely expensive, and it is not considered budget housing, but quite decent. i think that there will be a little change in this, it seems to me that apartments on such floors have long been given to someone their e-e tickets to the gyms and have excellent training every day it is almost daylight and the elevator does not work so you can reach the 22nd floor and if suddenly you forget something else and you have to walk the dog several times every day, what if the children it is necessary to take them out for a walk every day.

well, these are challenges, these are the real challenges of life in multi-storey buildings. volodymyr zelenskyy yesterday announced that ukraine will eventually build a parallel network that will provide the country with electricity and there will be special such stations in hard-to-reach places modular my modular reactors when this wonderful future awaits us ideas of small modular characters - this is not a new idea in fact even when i was in the parliament it was already starting to be discussed even then such projects were announced in canada and then great britain provided, if i am not mistaken, almost a quarter of a billion pounds for you to develop such a project and begin to implement it for small modular reactors that represent well and the kind well, i don't know there is a small warehouse er where

you can put several machines, that's it this is the conventional size of such a small modular reactor that can really supply electricity to a million cities, millionaires, etc. it would certainly be appropriate for us to have such a project throughout ukraine on the one hand, but on the other hand, to ensure it the security of such an object was also worth considering the neighbors we have and we will still have to go through the path of building a modern powerful air defense system with you, the fact that our partners are helping us today is good, but again, not enough, returning to your the question is for sure. it is worth saying that such projects from its beginning, where the technical and economic justification documents will be made to

approval, then the start of implementation, will take years, many years, and such projects require after all, not small investments, but investments during the war in such large objects at a price worth hundreds of millions of dollars. well, it is unlikely that anyone will do it, for sure, after all, this is more of a strategy for the post-war period, and during the war, we have to think about how quickly to replace the elements that are destroyed by russia and how to protect them quickly, because there are examples of how in iraq, for example , the americans put special constructions, of course, as complex as the shelters in chernobyl, but in essence they are similar when you appropriate construction materials were used and generators, including transformers, were covered with such a protective protective

roof, this is also what ukraine should start doing right here now. it's a pity that we didn't do it earlier . there is only one. perhaps there is its own advantage, it is centralized, as a rule, gasification - gas supply, and this is the case when there is no light, but at least gas is heat and even partially light. these attempts now to hit the gas production industry, the gas distribution industry, can be devastating, what is the special feature of this industry that electricity is needed? for example, is it easier to restore it, how can it be prevented that at least it all rose very quickly it depends on that of course , what will be affected yes, and what will to cause damage , uh, i really hope that our large

gas pipeline in the system will not be hit, and there, in fact, it uh, has a huge level of security, and it is very difficult to damage it in russia as well it is not interesting now, because they still continue to export their e-e gas through the ukrainian state transport system when we are talking about individual gas distribution stations and they can be hit and damaged, the recovery all depends on whether there is appropriate e-e equipment in the warehouses of those enterprises which service such gas distribution blocks, if they have it, they can quickly renew it, if not, this is where the problem begins. and from the fact that i know that many companies have used their precisely these spare repair stocks and now they are looking for a place to replace them. thank you very much. viktoria voytsytska was with us

today. people's deputy of the 8th convocation , secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on fuel , energy complex, nuclear safety and poison of the 8th convocation. well, we already have deputy minister of culture of ukraine, ms. kateryna, we welcome you, ms. kateryna will be our phone because there is still an air of alarm and you know, i say for our viewers that sometimes our speakers are in different circumstances, ms. kateryna, uh, wanted i would like to ask you, there was such an interesting interview with the director of the art museum in kherson, uh, alina dotsenko, an amazing woman, she has an interesting story . but she said that uh, on the eve of a full-scale invasion, uh, they somehow thought about if it was possible to take out

the collection, how to secure it, but they did not receive anything from the ministry of culture and already on february 24 by video link at 3:00 p.m. already when kherson a bomb was bombed, she received a message from the minister of culture who said that the museum should be taken out. well, the words of this director continued. and we had a fucking kherson antoniv bridge, planes are flying from the anti-terrorist forces , people are already dying from our defenders , almost all of them died, she asked again, as if we were to take out where to take funds, loaders, security, special transport must be entered through mykolaiv, and it was bombed even worse, no one answered me, and that was the end of the conversation. as a result, this collection is actually lost here. they took away the most valuable exhibits, this is not the first time they have been doing this constantly, not even since the second world war, she said how once the zhovkiv castle was still petro you robbed so that well, it is clear that it is not a tradition but was it possible to prevent this and somehow help to help the museum workers save

those collections are not their private collections, they are just hired people there. nevertheless, they are in pain for this, and are the rest of our museums or other institutions that have important valuable things in their collections that can be about us ukrainians protected? to tell the world well, in principle, to tell after this full-scale war is over , yes, yes, how do you know the evacuation here, the processes that are needed, first of all, preparation, and secondly, do we have the legislation of cases a-a regarding the preparation, uh, i will not to comment now because the museums did not have sufficient resources to take the necessary steps in many cases and the local authorities obviously did not have

sufficient resources to react quickly in any cases ago i wouldn't want to now commenting on this conversation is a separate issue, i will only say that in our, according to our legislation, the mechanisms for evacuating anything are material values ​​- these are cultural values, and the evacuation of people is issued after the declaration of martial law, the announced process began immediately, it is difficult logistics these are the nuances that we cannot and do not discuss during all this time. to comment so that everything can be secured to be secured, the situation is of course complicated by the fact that this

territory of ukraine stopped under attack, and for us it was as much a surprise as for most people living in ukraine. it is one thing to have an idea of ​​which regions are invited and a completely different situation when, er, strikes begin in all areas, and er, it had a very strong impact, of course, on decision-making, what was the method, if it was implemented or could or could not be implemented, so i will not comment the further this situation is, the mechanism of private evacuation is not yet visible on the emphasized threat, it did not exist until now, of course, we will work and are working more precisely on improving these procedures, but since 24 therefore, it was necessary to make decisions very quickly, they were made where it is it was possible and what was perhaps realized we really had an equipped council with museums from all regions uh dinner on the second day to leave

the minister of culture and information policy one step behind i guess i unfortunately have no information but at 1:10 p.m. this was really shared since the very morning, we met with those museums and reserves that are subordinate to us. when it became more or less clear and more or less daring to connect with the regions, we met with everyone and immediately, of course, it is carried out only on the condition that if the conditions are met, everything was done, of course, this process it was not for you to implement during the next number of questions because the collection specifically when in the art graduation museum i had a silkenka left in the room and therefore remained in a room that was seriously repaired, she did not where was she placed from? this is a multi-component situation. for a long time, we have been dealing with the issue of rivnyi dotsenko after she left kherson. since

may, they have been supporting the wrong contract . what could be done in this situation, in which everyone found themselves, it was also done because of that, but let's hope that they are temporary. to restore the list of such items that were in the premises. as far as we know now, the relocation in the territory of ukraine, but unfortunately, no one can guarantee that they will not be moved further. some kind of conditional hermitage in russia, as there are already many of our exhibits, which were taken out during the second world war, also remain. thank you ms. kateryna, we have little time left, we have a lot of time now, it's time for news kateryna chueva deputy

minister of culture of ukraine well, unfortunately, ukraine is losing its cultural sights even now . could shed more light even for us on who we are, unfortunately during the second world war, ukraine also became the country that suffered the most exhibits from where the most were taken away the most lost in those times of air anxiety we have wonderful news he and air theory even more wonderful news there will be angelica and the season girl, we hope that she will report good news, so stay with the press, the news release is on the line. i am iryna koval, mother, wife, presenter of the espresso tv channel. and i am also a volunteer, our soldiers are at the front every day need a lot of things, and that's why part of my life today is helping the armed forces