i think that of course we will wait for the results of the investigation, the reaction of ukraine seems consistent and clear to me that there is a masked attack against us, that more than 100 rockets were fired on the territory of ukraine, we are using all opportunities to protect ukrainians and ukrainian territory, and we could do it it would be more effective and better if the usual one were these appeals from march that we want and desire more means against cellular protection of the closed knep were on time well, it seems to me that such a reaction in addition, the empty work that is going on now has really made a serious breakthrough this month , and in the fact that, let's say, a rather serious dialogue is already being delivered directly to the air defense of ukraine, this will be a continuation, because it seems to me that everyone will already see that the best and biggest

tool is, of course, to shoot down in which more of these missiles in the end. i don't see them set up so that we can learn something. thank you, mr. oleksandr . oleksandr musienko, the director of the center for military and legal studies, was with us. well, next we will talk about uh, prices, about our the economy mykhailo is wrong, the first vice-president makes the chamber of industry of ukraine contact us mr. mykhailo good morning to you good morning lesya andriy eh please tell me if the borscht set will become cheaper further we announced to our viewers today that we will talk about this eh or at least ukrainians can be calm that the main ukrainian dish will definitely be on their tables and it will be available.

to talk about the grain corridor and it turns out that we will talk about the rain, we will talk, but borscht, you understand borscht, this is the head except bread - 30 lunch is approaching, lunch is coming , oh you know, before today, before our program, i think we need to refresh a little, what is being done here in the morning, the publication is not such interesting information, it is a little bit me drove me into a stupor, but it's interesting that meat and chicken giblets are getting cheaper, not much, but they are getting cheaper, but the more expensive lard, ugh , that's the logic. but this is not an amateur, you know who makes lard and some don't. well, i understand. andriy understands me that a piece of lard and 100 g of cold vodka , a cucumber, he's going for hurrah well, look what we agreed on, but to say that lard is the first

necessity, well, no, well but for me, to be honest, the logic of our buyers, our ukrainians, is incomprehensible, meat is cheaper, chicken is getting a little cheaper. as we predicted, one of the owners of large producers in ukraine said that there are no reasons for chicken to become more expensive. then i don't know maybe we don't know something with you, but here's a paradox, but i'll try to explain it. i don't know if this is a paradox or not what i , for example, also quoted yesterday. yuriy vynnychuk is a famous ukrainian writer. you know andrii well, now i'm in a vest but without a vest, but he said yes, look, vynnychuk is cool, he shared it. i still read

his posts, i love them. they are always written very nicely with revenge. he wrote that he was doing yesterday. it seems that this is what this brat was doing with crackles had with with creaks and it is possible, one of the answers is simple. well , from the point of view, it seems to me that it is definitely a ukrainian whose lights are now turned off once a day very often. and here dtek says that it may be the other way around, that they will turn on the lights once every few days. that is, we can even do this to go with our friends, the muscovites, and then i think, i look in the refrigerator and think that the fact that i have meat there is not an advantage . i have some strategic reserve and i look with hope to the future. how do you like this explanation? i'll tell you something else. you have a wonderful option that remembers the generation of my age. i'm also, as they say in lviv, an older person. and how about myself? well, i'm so specific, but there are generations.

a little older, who remembers a refrigerator, ukraine , you know what it is, round it off, and that's it. there was such a net called avoska, the house of the street, who used to cling to it, and it was winter there. they pecked that fat but in any case, i'm going to turn it on now, panic. we have a reliable and tried-and-tested option called a refrigerator in ukraine. so, if you have meat, don't worry, look for a good, strong bag and adjust it, hang it on the window, but going back to our conversation, we got a little hyped now let's talk about something serious, by the way, about dtek, you know that there is with me, but before this, before our broadcast, i was sitting, analyzing, thinking in my head, the text had already

scrolled through. to change the situation on the energy market these energy attacks can lead to the fact that muscovites will be forced to either suspend them or change them somehow and i can explain why you know that a good event happened on the 17th we criticize the government a lot and rightly we criticize a lot rightly government, but here we must give credit to the team of the ministry of foreign affairs' ministry of infrastructure, they managed to extend the term of the grain agreement for 120 days, and what's more, you know this. i called him a real politician, there is such a saying that once schegerson richelieu-viva bismarck developed it, that is, the most pragmatic national position, when customs and even some obligations that were before this are postponed to the side, here

and there, the government team worked as a real politician, that is, they agreed with turkey, for me it was such a good symptom that russia is not among the guarantees of the grain agreement, that is, there is not enough of it here. who was watching, turkey acted as a guarantor . do you remember that a month ago we discussed exactly this topic. will nato ships accompany the grain agreement ? turkey is a member state, in fact, it already is, so the fact that it was extended for 120 days is a big plus, and not only on a global scale, starting from the chikava stock exchange, where by 1%, not only did the price of grain return to the pre-war level, but even 1% became cheaper, ending with the fact that africa and middle eastern countries such as yemen will avoid a humanitarian catastrophe, but this is also our place in geopolitics. this is something that we may not have fully understood. and the world did not understand. and by the

way, a guarantee that not will come back again and so on the situation as a result of russian aggression, when there will be an understanding of the geopolitical situation that ukraine is too important to allow another such military conflict, so if we talk from an economic point of view, it is just right there, including what is important for us. today, almost 70% of our exports are grain, to the great regret of metallurgy, chemistry has gone down. on the other hand, this is an opportunity to raise domestic prices a little, if we talk to the flower garden, when was the month of may a critically low price of uah 2,000, now it is 4.5 in some up to five, i.e. twice as much, although this is still a low price. but on the other hand , our warehouses are still being vacated, our elevators are being vacated. so this is a very good signal, it is very good work, and for this i want to say once again to the ministry of foreign affairs and the ministry

of infrastructure, thank you very much, they are well done, they worked like real diplomats, yes, it is good , really news, it will be four more months, in fact , it will work. this is enough to show that we have do we have all the reserves? unfortunately, they will not have time to use what we have because there are about 10 million left, not yet the harvest of the 21st year, and about 20 million of this year's harvest, and autumn is especially late autumn is stormy in the black sea. so there will be a little bit of weather conditions not the same as they were in the summer, but in any case, this is how even the chekak stock exchange reacted to the fact that it was held. yes, we have information - it is now one of the most important weapons after military weapons, that is, information about what will be continued and the price instantly fell by 1% that is, there is no world hype, that is, here these safeguards have worked and we act here as a reliable good partner, and in the political

sense we act very positively. and are such russian flirtations possible again? persuasive that you shouldn't abuse it like that, you know , it reminds me of how it is at home, in the family. and i 'll go. dog here it is something like this, if we talk at the everyday level, it looked like from the point of view of russia's actions, that is. well, when it started, there was an illusion of a powerful black sea fleet that controls, on which something depends. could dictate the conditions on the black sea, there are simply no military arguments, that is, there are no military arguments. turkey controls the

black sea. it's not interesting for them, there was nothing left to stay on the sidelines at all. well, you know what it's called , well, we were feverish. well, we came back. well, we came back, and we came back, but what was special for me was the fact that only turkey acted as a guarantor, and no one called russia anywhere. i did not take any guarantees from her. so when we say that it is about the export of grain, we had such a recent piece of news, maybe they don’t follow it very much, or maybe those people who only watch there, for example, the news of the general marathon, i don’t know to be honest, i don’t look at it myself. there was such a story that in november, bill 8166 was registered in the verkhovna rada. i apologize for these details about the amendments to the customs code regarding the introduction of special expert procedures. and

outside there were figures that the state does not receive 4-5 billion dollars from unscrupulous exporters of grain and oil, what kind of currency exchange is this? why is it? because it is bureaucratized now. this procedure will actually slow down exporters and create problems for farmers. you know. we have a family curse called ukrainian customs, which, well, no, no, no , every president of every prime minister, when he came, promised to reform it, put it in order, and in the end recognized that it is impossible to reform what cannot be reformed, and this is also the hetman who regularly meets with us, he also admits that, unfortunately, at the beginning of the war, somehow they quieted down, and then later the sbu discovered it even under the time of registration of cargoes of the grain corridor, which are under special control, the people still tried something somehow. but there is, you know, now an interesting option

. by the way, it is planned with poland, i proposed it three months ago, joint passage on the ukrainian-polish border because there is no other option our customs office. well, it’s like a family curse. the second moment, and yes, on the grain corridor. there were already some customs officers on that side. the first one was checking that ours didn’t steal anything. and that’s how it is. no. and i’ll tell you. in a different way. it's yours. you know what the everyday view is. you know when you take customs information in ukrainian and polish, it's very often the difference between imports from poland is 3-4 times more than what goes into ukraine. what is it? do you understand what i'm saying? and here it is. where is the difference, where

is it at the ukrainian customs? and yushchenko once conducted such an experiment when he was the president and they took a customs sample. it turns out that shoes are more expensive than $10-15 to ukraine. than some dollars for you, maybe it's me, it's me, it's me, it's me, it's me, i just bought a second hand. er, such bases are brought to ukraine from all over the world , we do not produce roses from poland, but they come to ukraine. somehow it is called from this branch, this is a little grass, which is then decorated, you understand, yes, that is, it is called and such a code of roses is one thing. roughly speaking, a little grass which goes on to be processed

this is a completely different matter, but there is a difference, and when you look at the customs statistics, as experts say, it does not play hundreds of billions on the way, this small customs crossing between poland and ukraine is lost, so in order to avoid this, this is exactly what the border guards are talking about. poles should conduct customs together. in this regard, the eu has its own problems, but the order is more than that. such an experimental option has already passed. official information is being prepared. this is what we say for customs if we let's go back to the topic of grain, there was another moment when the hetman was talking about. well, as soon as a normal business appeared, as soon as they started to work, a traditional ukrainian business called reshaly appeared, which began to offer a-a to farmers who has grain to to the average small farmers that we will sell your grain here. well, the schemes started, starting from the simple throw when they

took and did not pay, and ending with the fact that some gray schemes began to somehow bypass with the help of customs officers, that is exactly what the conversation was about, will there be it is too bureaucratized. well, bureaucracy is in principle when it is controlled, when it is transparent , when it understands why it is being done. well, it's okay. i don't see it, i myself am a bureaucrat sitting in front of you, and then the bureaucracy is normal when, let's say, there is a clear scheme, this scheme is transparent, this scheme is clear and a mobile phone then maybe that's why i would uh, it's not that it's not the one before, roughly speaking, here they are standing in line, and there will be a customs officer sitting there and saying well, where's the $500 envelope, don't you give me an envelope of $500, they'll do that brag a little now if someone asks us what should a bureaucracy with a human face look like, we'll say, mykhailo,

it's wrong. well, please hahaha , it's become simple. read these comments, they say they are surprised because, when an expert starts to say something smart about swap trends and forecasts , people are not interested. and people always ask me what the dollar rate will be cheaper for carrots by the end of the year. well , that was the main question. we are even carrots, eggs or oh, and you know what i have? what news? eggs have started to become cheaper. that's it. that's what it will be. top news for all the news. news. i, er, last friday, er, public volyn, eh, they asked me, we were with them, too, we had a turn-on, and i mt asked a question, i say and what about eggs, your colleague tells me, you won't believe us, they have become cheaper by 60 uah, queens were 70-75 i say well,

apparently in volyn, chickens have started to lay better and more actively, so this will be news number one for the people, and i i'm sorry for the village, it's easier to store , you can eat without cooking, and they also close in cans and to the front. you see how we have people who only think about themselves, another viewer writes nataliya gorbachova, sir, the logic is simple, lard does not need heat treatment, people make stocks. calories, people do it right and it is stored well in case of cold, the fat is the same, but people don't have money for meat, that's why they make do with fat. there is another version that is the best. a jar on the balcony and guts, and some real russian with the name rolan and the surname nurulayev wrote that it’s more of a russian kitchen, uh, and what are you there, it’s not even a material heritage of

unesco, and ukrainian is also written there , lard is still used, as they used to do on how was sausage stored in ukraine when there were no refrigerators? the refrigerator appeared literally at the beginning of the 20th century. how was it before that in ukraine ? and when lard was melted with lard, homemade sausage was taken. do you remember how they put it in clay pots like this the cooking pot of the makitra and they filled it with hot lard and there was no access to oxygen and this sausage was poured with lard like this and it turned out that when the hostess needed it, she removed the layer of lard and took the sausage and the rest was filled and there was no oxidation process because oxygen did not flow i poured lard and that's how homemade sausage covered with lard was stored for 2.3 years, nothing happened to it, so i'm giving, as they say, another recipe for free, you can use this life hack, especially in

times of power outages whether or not because of the actual shelling because there are some graphics. thank you, mr. mykhailo, as always, for the added mood. mykhailo nepran, the first vice-president of the chamber of commerce and industry of ukraine, was with us. and here, even the audience writes poems about mr. mykhailo. well, we are moving on we are actually talking about these power outages, what should we do with these mass rocket attacks gennadiy ryabtseva, expert on energy issues with us mr. gennadiy good morning good morning mykhailo ivanovych always lifts the mood in the morning yes, mr. gennadiy, president zelensky also recently tried to raise the mood of ukrainians and promised such a good story. he said that a new parallel energy system will be created in our country, which will allow us, in principle, to be independent from these attacks, because the large centers will be duplicated by some smaller ones .

distribution capacities. what do you think about it? how good is this idea, how quickly can it be implemented , well, you need to ask those advisers who, uh, submitted this idea to the president. to be honest, i don't i understand how it is possible to create a kind of parallel monopoly for a natural monopoly, well , it does not mean that there is a monopolist in the sense that it is natural, that is, it is the same as putting a competitive sewage system in our country, or building a competitive railway, that is, putting parallel railway tracks. i don't know what was going on, what exactly did the president mean by uh, this is the expression parallel system can be duplication, but

the duplication was there before and thanks to this duplication of routes to hunt for power sources now the system maintains its integrity, if it is maintained, then i think that there will be no need to build something parallel. well, actually the information sounds like ukraine has already agreed with the usa on the construction of small modular characters that can be placed in hard-to-reach places, i understand that hard-to-reach enemy missiles yes, no, no , she did not agree on anything, read the source. actually , on the website of the united states state department, there is talk about a pilot project that will cover the generation of electrical energy on small modular reactors and the production of

green hydrogen from this energy, which will then be transported to the countries of europe, and so on. and all this production of green hydrogen will be carried out using a special modern electrolysis method, that is, there is a huge number of different companies will cooperate in order to work out this chain of production of green hydrogen e-e electricity for which there will be an electrode for which e-e is supplied from a small modular reactor and the manifestation of the construction of no reactors or at least until the end of the war on the territory of ukraine is not discussed, why then does president zelenskyi make such announcements? well, because these are promising technologies

, we should not forget about prospects, we should not forget about what we should do after the war, because if we now focus our attention only on uh, military issues, then after the end of the war, after the signing of the peace accords. well, what do you need to restore ukraine? you need to build the same new energy industry that everyone is talking about, but not yet they know what it was like and we need to finally hmm, well, the preliminary draft of the plan for the recovery of ukraine started

in your opinion, in principle, what decentralization could be in principle, which would help us survive in reality where is it possible that the next generations of ukrainians will live under the threat of sudden missile attacks or such decentralization in the principle needs to be implemented so definitely, well, strictly speaking, these principles were laid down even before the start of active military operations, that is, in the energy strategy for the period of 2035, it was noted that ukraine should build a decentralized, decentralized, multi-vector energy industry, which will be based on the principle of energy operation. and every consumer will be able

to choose from which source which energy he will consume at each specific moment of time, i.e. energy self-sufficiency, it is the basis of any decentralization and e-e united the energy system should only insure all consumers, should only provide opportunities for further development of energy consumption and should combine energy objects with high conversion rates of this same energy , that is, these are normal, normal approaches, i do not think that they will change in any way, and the main thing is simply that they are consistent implemented by hennadiy hmm, this massive missile attack turned out to be even more massive than the one on october 10. after october 10, the energy industry

talked about the fact that they needed several weeks to more or less fix everything and more or less bring the ukrainian energy system to the state in which it was able to function and so that people there do not sit in the dust looking for some generators or some batteries in order to somehow be able to live and now we have another attack and i suspect that the russians are worthless. surely they can prepare an even bigger mass missile attack. in that case, we will survive the winter when there will always be the best energy system, moreover. now they are also hitting our gas extraction in the field of mass disconnection, we will definitely survive here. it is unlikely that anyone in russia will survive this land. but

if we talk about ukraine, then even emergency shutdowns and evidence that the system is a controlled system is managed and the dispatcher works , that is, the operator of the transmission system and can redistribute electrical energy within the state than by different consumers. that is, these are not separate energy islands - this is a single theoretical system without the protection of the sky over energy objects without the supply of specific equipment the same transformers without creating a reserve of the corresponding equipment in the company at the operators of the rights distribution system, and therefore the transfer will be yours, but the work in the first and second

directions is being carried out, therefore, most of all, there will be one more shelling and another and another until the rockets run out ah, but we will see him, thanks to this event, thanks to the fact that you are professional in our energy industry and are not involved in any political squabbles. weeks, mr. arrestovych, but after each strike, there must be a certain period of time so that the energy companies can restore the supply of electricity to as many consumers as possible, so the worst will be for the residents of

livoberezhnaya ukraine and kherson zaporizhzhia mykolayev kharkiv but i think that in these days, the local self-government bodies will do everything in their power to ensure that we only survive the winter and survive the winter with rejoicing. thank you very much for sharing this energy expert told us how we this winter we will take care of ourselves and we will take care of someone and we are definitely going through it, as our viewers say, we put candles not only to be in the light, but we put muscovite candles on this note . well , andriy serhiychuk and i will return only then, the word “thank you” colleagues from the new russians were prowling along the border but from