tv [untitled] November 18, 2022 4:30pm-5:01pm EET
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today, the people's elected representative sees such a problem , that's why, mr. pavla, why did you vote for a budget in which there is no separate financing of the energy security of ukraine, how could you vote for allocating money for a big marathon ? development, this kind of bribery for deputies. i understand that from this fund you, as a person who supports the decisions of the authorities , are allocated funds for the so-called social organization to go out and feed one or another there with handouts is there anything else wrong in wartime, in wartime, you have to concentrate on the army, in wartime, you have to concentrate on security, so i am convinced that it was your big wrong decision to support the budget in which no money was increased compared to this year for the armed forces of ukraine a if we take into account at least 30%
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less, which did not have an article on energy security, because what are we talking about now about small generators where people save each other and this is how they will do it we should talk about the financing of large transformer substations the deadline for the production of which is indeed long, but it must be done today, because the fact that the muscovites will destroy our country is clear to everyone, it was clear. on february 24, you voted for this government, which today does nothing to restore energy security, which for 9 months has not bought neither transformers nor powerful substations what would be in reserve and in reserve today to restore this economy let's do it now let's do it immediately knock on those ministers you voted for so that they allocate muscovites will continue to bomb money for the state's energy sector. they want to destroy ukrainians. they
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want to destroy our state, and our issue with you as parliamentarians is not to paint pictures of a black world and a black, dark ukraine . energy security, let's do it together, it's not true to do it together, i think everything that needs to be voted on the budget, you understand that it also includes a fund for the restoration of this destroyed infrastructure, which i think in the following will start working next year, and from it our own will also be repaired, as well as substations and other destroyed property of ukraine, and i believe that it is definitely impossible to leave the state without a budget during the war, so i urge you to work together and vote for the budget, but dear people's elected officials
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, part of your work is yes himself to make appropriate amendments at a certain stage before the final approval of the main wallet of the country for the coming year, and here discussions are very permissible and look very natural, and mr. pavla, are you actually satisfied with the level of how popular the deputies were able to improve the draft budget for next year or did we just agree with everything what did the cabinet of ministers of ukraine propose hoping for the help of our international partners pavlo bakunets people's deputy of ukraine is in touch with us yes there is a connection remember the company yes we hear you gentlemen, you are peddling us so, so, well , accordingly, khrystyna was touched on the usual essential point, that is, the issue of introducing amendments and, accordingly, intra-parliamentary discussions there, depending on the
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factional discipline, regardless of the factional disciplines, but the question is, well, we remember how fierce the budget battles were in the 90s and early 2000s, we understand. so we survived all this, but that does not mean that it seems to me subjectively possible that people's deputies do not have the right to these healthy discussions and efforts to improve the draft budget for next year, as it was this year, and do you, paul, think that the people's deputies did everything necessary to make it really conscious and realistic ? international partners who actually give almost half of the funds for the next year to the budget of ukraine and who called for its adoption as soon as possible so that this would actually be an indicator of the fact that despite the
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critical situation with revenues in our country , some kind of revenue planning process for the next year is still underway and actually planning of these and grants and loans in the next year from our international partners, therefore i definitely believe that the budget should be supported and voted on. of course, there should be a healthy discussion in it almost 2,000 amendments were made this year and i think that this is the right process of discussion through the introduction of rules. i still think that about next year, we will probably review this budget more than once and make changes to it. he wanted to ask if there is any movement now we are talking about the redirection of funds, we understand. yes, when the same budget was drawn up. well, we understood that the reason for everything would be massive attacks by the russian federation on our energy facilities, but hardly anyone
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thought on what scale this would all happen. and now it should be taken into account that this is not only a question about energy, it is a question about the economy, we understand that when they kill our transformer substations and so on down the list, they destroy not only the story about light . remotely and so on and so on. that is , this is a whole plast and this strategy is russian, it is criminal, genocidal, but it is deliberate and, accordingly, the key question is whether i now understand that this is a semi-secret topic, but please i would like to remind mr. pavlo of one thing: remind the members of which committee you are now, yes, this month i became
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a member of the budget committee, well, i am a member of the budget committee , more than that, you were voted a member of the budget committee was transferred from another committee to the budget committee at the moment when we asked the hall to vote for the dismissal of nestor shufrych from the position of chairman of the committee on freedom of speech and you did not take this position into account because it was important that you became a member of the budget committee and we hoped that such a powerful person how would you, becoming a member of the budget committee, really introduce a pro-ukrainian position? wait, i 'll remind you of 50 minutes. it's unprecedented when amendments made by people 's deputies nobody wanted to do worse are considered for less than an hour, and the hands for it to go to the hall is because there was a fund for socio-economic development, such
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bribes of the deputy. is it because no one understood the essence of this budget? is it because in the 21st year it was voted that the gambling business received as much as 127, not millions, not thousands. and 127 uah came from the gambling business from profit from the gambling business into the ukrainian budget, this is the work of the budget committee. is it possible to approach this in wartime because what is happening behind the scenes of the parliament today is unacceptable, it is not possible to work like this if we are cheering for the ukrainian state today if we want not only the armed forces of ukraine, but for every doctor and teacher to receive a decent salary, then we need to act differently, as it was possible to vote to reduce by 20% the expenditure on education of the health crown and at the same time increase by 12%
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the expenditure on large-scale theft construction is this the approach of the budget committee is it about the ukrainian position we cannot work like this and if we work honestly and openly, then it will be precisely against the morning and russian aggression because it is not true that our international partners have rushed us why so that until today the budget has not been signed by the president of ukraine. why was it so urgent to drive it to the parliament hall? it seems to me that it is impossible to manipulate in such a difficult time when ukrainian soldiers are fighting in the winter trenches for our independence with you, for the freedom of our country, we must be honest and open and on television and at meetings of people with people, and when it is done behind the scenes and under the rug, there should be one position everywhere, and it should be a position about ukrainian unity in order to defeat the enemy, and then it will be possible
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to be really honest with people. well, you have my word, and with my coming to the budget committee, it will start working better and longer thanks to at least all the reasons that a member of the budget committee, when the draft budget was considered for 50 minutes and voted for it, listened carefully and i tell you that i have now become a member of the budget committee . i think that next year the budget will definitely be for our military and for the bravest ones. they actually mentioned that it will be the highest space. victory, and perhaps even these funds will already be directed somewhere else additionally to the liberation of things in order to restore opportunities for people's lives
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there, well, accordingly, mr. pavly, the question that we touched upon, so to speak, before this extremely important moment. yes, but we are talking about the development of a strategic antidote, we understand that a significant component of this element of our national security, particularly in terms of energy, is money, or is there an urgent movement now, because we must understand that from certain articles, money has it is possible to spill over to others. in general, what is our situation in the future, for example, with the raising of tariffs for the same electricity ? so to speak , the formula of price and payment, you understand and when the enemy destroys these very lines of electricity supply from nuclear regenerating
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stations to consumers, the following happens na it is a pity that some units at our nuclear power plants have to be stopped because there is nowhere to go for this generated electrical energy because the roads have been destroyed, so i think that first of all we will be talking about the restoration of energy supply roads. not only state players but also players of the so -called private structures operate in our energy structure, respectively, the question of compensation and the question of i don't know any program, how it would be financed because the detector starts to say that they are running out of equipment in warehouses, this is visible as far as i understand, this is a certain hint about money, well, accordingly. where there is a lot of money , it is necessary to do everything quickly, the situation is critical,
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but it is impossible to do it quickly, only here, well, there are unique transformer substations everywhere, and they are needed process by it for the time of their production and it will not take place, as i mentioned there, within one week, but probably for a longer time, and therefore, until these substations are restored, accordingly, there will be no supply to the final consumers, accordingly, there will be large residuals of electric energy, therefore, there is no need to talk about increasing its price at the moment. it is so. what uniqueness is mr. pavlo talking about, there are substations 110 , 330 and 750 and they were in 1990 and they are in 2022 just february 24. when did the first one start missile strike we had to think about what to do after that, when the ukrainian army stops them on the
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battlefield, they will bomb and destroy the country, and no one wanted to hear and listen then that we need to buy additional transformers, they in fact, they are not unique, they are typical throughout ukraine and today we really have to thank our western partners because the last tranche, the last grand allocated by germany, is in the range of one million euros exclusively for the energy structure . you have the ability to vote on various bills today. please , introduce the bill today and let's urgently redistribute funds for energy security, because the war, unfortunately, will not end very quickly. we see that the muscovites are building huge fortifications, they will cling with their teeth to the ukrainian land and for the armed forces of
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ukraine to throw them out of there, we need to add funds , including for our work in the rear, so let's introduce a bill and let's vote on separate articles on the energy security of ukraine and immediately dear people's deputies, there is another very important story, it is important to hear it for those who are currently volunteering in ukraine. the verkhovna rada has simplified registration as much as possible. volunteers were allowed to do this through action, and in the second reading the bill 80-76 was passed, and actually it is supposed to be not bad. yes, now, to make life easier for volunteers, mr. pavlo, did you vote hares, these changes are really optimizing their work now, please well, of course, we are sleepy, we voted in general, if those who are
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engaged in activities do not only go to the tax office through the post office to register themselves, but it will be possible to do it through the electronic application, there is only one action, or this service does not yet exist and it is necessary to, er, develop it, and then people will be able to to register and because of the action and an important point of this project actually was that you don't need to go to the bank and get a certificate about account details from your volunteers and this certificate was always difficult for volunteers to get, that's why this point was actually excluded. therefore, maybe it will help those people who help the army speed up your uga well, mr. oleg, did you vote or is it really the best, very correct decision and this decision is necessary, you can discuss there that it should have been taken earlier the main thing is that it was adopted and today it is very important
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that the volunteers will improve the possibilities of their work and will not be responsible for those things of inconsistency of legislation that were a few months ago there is no discussion here this is really a very good and very important decision just as good as the appeal to the g20 just as good a decision it seems well unfortunately unfortunately unfortunately but it is good that it is just as good as the approval of the memorandum with nato, that is, in fact, the same good decision as the appeal that referred to the holodomor genocide of ukrainians who carried out by muscovites in 1932-1933, these are the right decisions, the decisions are needed, and it is very good that they were voted on in the ukrainian parliament. it is a pity that on this day decisions that will help the economy of ukraine that will help the economy of ukraine were not voted on, because, for example, the issue of software business, but we
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are not talking about that today that the gambling business in our country uses a simplified system of taxation and this decision was voted only in the first reading. they allowed this decision to be voted on in the second reading, and today it is very important to talk about it publicly, there is nothing to be ashamed of, because the gambling business, since it is already allowed in ukraine , should bring income to the ukrainian budget, which will go to the army, which will go to energy security , and i am convinced that it is necessary to do everything is possible so that at the next plenary meeting - this decision was voted on as a whole and became the norm of the law, because how can the gambling business work on a simplified system. is that where pies are baked or water soda is sold, there are huge amounts of money circulating there, and it is necessary that these huge amounts of money work for the
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benefit of ukraine. thank you, it was oleg synyutka, a people's deputy of ukraine, and pavlo bakunets , also a people's deputy, who always has something to talk about, even to argue about, this is normal in a democratic country and you are talking about weapons , they say so to the parliament, but no one shows it live on our tv channel. and by the way, mr. bakunenko voted not to show broadcasts on the tv channel. how can it be that ukrainians do not know what their elected officials are doing ? it's a shame, so forgive me, so that there is no shame, we must act as the ukrainian people need it today, and not as a sideshow, oh, i don't know if pavlo bakunets is still in touch with us, so that we can react. yes, it is possible that a review of the relevant decision is being prepared, it is in particular about the return of broadcasts
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from the verkhovna rada live, at least in the recording, so listen, it’s interesting. listen, well, we and the people are already bored with parliamentary life, and therefore for security reasons, in any case, yes, in any case. valery ryabykh, a military expert, that we are rebuilding our beautiful ether on the go, they destroyed enemy warehouses with ammunition columns of equipment long before the appearance of the gaimers and today they do not give rest to the occupiers about our ukrainian flowers, which we regularly give to the enemy. weighing 47 t, these guys are real ukrainian rage armored vehicles of the invaders, load one shell, fire enemy
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warehouses with ammunition and even multi-kilometer columns of russians, we will now work on the target that is why it is now being told publicly that we aim the car at the gate and shoot ukrainian peonies - these are the only flowers that the occupiers can count on on our land, this calculation passed the defense of kyiv region and the destruction of the enemy in kharkiv region, now the artillerymen are working in the south of the country, the most difficult was at the end of february when a large-scale war began, the calculations worked without rest literally there for half an hour in order to warm up and re-process the work sleeping in the field on their account countless the number of destroyed enemy equipment well, we have no way back we can't go back this is our land that is,
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if we have two ways either victory or death and therefore i don't know what other choice i could have made in my thoughts at all there was no other choice lawyer's calculation one of those that covered the ukrainian army before the appearance of western weapons at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, this weapon was one of the most important in keeping the invaders and it works reliably. it is very efficiently designed to work at a distance of up to 37 km. it has a charge. caliber 203.2 mm, ukrainian pions work under the guidance of air reconnaissance, cover counterattacks and destroy enemy warehouses, in general, we work in warehouses all the time, two with supplies, a lot of infantry asks us to cover and when the attack is coming, because with our scattering of fragments, we have an absolute defeat of 120 m and lethal force of 500 meters
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of flight. fragments, indeed, the projectiles to the pion are exhausted, they do not produce a kilogram of power, very great joy with a fragment of 500 m, what else can you say, a very good projectile. he said that it leaves with a three-story long self-propelled artillery installation pion was developed almost half a century ago and even today in the skillful hands of ukrainian soldiers it is a formidable weapon against the invaders artem lagutenko oleksiy kutsuk tv channel espresso we thank our colleagues and we thank the gods of war to the artillerymen for their service well, we are moving forward in communication with the studio valery e ryabikh military expert defense express p valery we congratulate you glory to ukraine to the heroes i congratulate you also first of all i would like to talk about the latest missile attacks and what we managed to do
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to find out after them a missile of the hub 55 type, which did not have a warhead at all, instead of a warhead , a block was screwed into this russian missile that acted as an imitator of a nuclear warhead. i understand that the kha-55 arrived here instead of the x55. valery why is russia now imitating eh is she training or what is she doing, but she uses this type of projectiles, it’s just that the corresponding missiles have already expired. they started to use, so to speak, a strategic reserve, well, look here, there can be many versions, there are fantastic ones and there are realistic ones, we can to consider er well, the kha-55 is a missile that is intended for nuclear equipment and is intended for use in such equipment because this missile has a er very large radius of the coefficient of hitting targets and it
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is equal to about 100 m and this the missile does not belong to a high-precision weapon, so it is certain that this missile could not be used in order to er. what effect will it have on our energy infrastructure? moreover , such a missile is not equipped with er. there are versions that could do this use the missile to reload and overload our air defense system, but it is also hm, it is very unlikely, because in fact one missile is possible, there were more of them, of course, well, two or three or so, but one hit, but it was a missile which is worth two million, the russian federation can, of course, against the background of the fact that they really run out of
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high-precision missiles, the same kha-505 is 555 with khas-102 because 100 euros. i apologize. 101 was also 120 in nuclear equipment and in fact about we have even already seen e -is the downed missile here in ukraine, which was produced in the third quarter of this year, the x-101 missile, and this already indicates that the missiles are really running out. let's say with one of the versions that we can say for ourselves to get more votes, this is the version that this is the signal sent by putin against the background of failures on the front against the background of the inability to intimidate ukrainians and finally destroy the critical infrastructure as a collection
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this missile well, it could do it in parallel, uh, it conducted testing of our air defense system, how can all the old missile cope with our anti-aircraft defense, as we can see, it did not succeed, and thank god yes, mr. valery we are very much waiting for the strengthening of our air defense on the other hand, we understand that the enemy also regularly tests it. as you rightly noted in one of the versions, the launch of this very missile can be, so to speak , an attack. we understand that military experts all over the world are extremely serious about the use of the rocket-like class, on the other hand, we understand that something also reaches us regularly and now we are hearing information that we will also point-wise reinforce critically important various objects, please share
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what you can share, that is, really indeed, terrorist tactics that have already been tested by the predecessors of the russian federation , the same hamas, uh, uh, uh, uh, just appear on the agenda, the very task of protecting critical infrastructure, what, for example, such large infrastructural facilities such as nuclear sanctions, nuclear power plants because they were strengthened, this is one thing, but we see that other targets are also becoming, and i can relate precisely to this the latest transmissions of short and medium-range air defense systems and yet one of the most important appointments for these, let's say, very critical
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dependence of the population of peaceful ukraine at the moment on the operational efficiency of critical infrastructure facilities, that is, those facilities that have never been defended, they will now be taken under enhanced security and because no one could have thought that in the 21st century, such objects that ensure the population's vital activities, er, normal life, they will be under the attack of er, a country that has such great capabilities, because the only er, let's say, opportunity is to defend itself from some terrorist organization that has really limited possibilities, then we see that the possibilities of the russian federation, although they are decreasing, but it still remains that we have to react to them very, very unfortunately. let's say that the reaction of the international community, it is not yet as effective as
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we would like, and it seems to me that this is a signal with the x-55 missile. it should be very serious and carefully considered, because this missile can carry a 350 ct warhead, and this is a very powerful hint of that a sum from a ford er from a creature that sat in the kremlin thank you mr. valery and about groping about groping, this is what the russian federation is trying to do now when we talk about the launch of missiles of the corresponding type and when we talk about the flight of certain missiles across the border ukraine and poland, this is a key key issue, and we understand that the kremlin sent a pretty clear signal to our western partners.
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