in ukraine and a full-scale war with russia, and in fact it helped us to make sure that russia really controls these organizations and has controlled them for a long time. the actions of the dpr are controlled by the dnr on the other hand, the fighters of the ln of the dpr are not given the status of combatants and are not protected from ordinary criminal proceedings, this means that in the future all the fighters of the dnr will be tried as ordinary criminals and not as some military or those who have rights according to international humanitarian law a-a regarding how such a sentence will be carried out, well , the prosecutor's office has already said that they have no illusions that russia will extradite these people and russia has already stated that she will not do this, but time is affected and the regime that

is now in russia is not eternal, so in the future it may well be that the prosecutor's office is proof of all efforts to ensure that people are punished in the future , so i note that a- and i have no doubt that there will be another trial and the new defendants will be a-a because it is also important, in addition to the background and foundation built by this decision, the prosecutor's office received, let 's say, its approach to proof, that is, this approach to proof worked, that is, the combination of witness evidence, satellite data, intercepted telephone conversations all e-e telephone conversations that were handed over to the sbu were recognized by the court as proper evidence in which there was no interference and the voices of the accused were recognized and confirmed there, this means that when there will be

an investigation already after the third anti-aircraft missile attack brigade in russia, where did the beech come from and where did it return to, this means that the data that the prosecutor's office is collecting now is an investigative team from russia, and we are sure that there are many testimonies and there will also be many witnesses, and all this will be confirmed in court and accepted by the court it is as evidence, it is also interesting that the prosecutor's office received certain comments from the court , let's say violations, but here it did not admit that these violations led to some kind of unfair trial, in particular, one of the violations that the lawyers insisted on was the fact that before the indictment there was no some suspicions were raised in advance, but the court did not recognize that the defendants did not have any opportunity to defend themselves or did not have time to prepare for it, so it should be expected that there will be new results of the investigation in the spring of next year, and we are still

waiting new trials in this case. well, thank you for this. the explanation is yes. well, i'll just write off lukashevich's hospital because of what we talked about with you today. it seems to me that i hope that you are not in russia now, just in case, i am in moscow okay, sir, what's up? everything will be fine with you after each and the same court, amsterdam, and independence from that. where i am, the verdict will not change and the whole world will accept it . yes, he, too, they will change for sure in russia if the komsomol says that ukraine is guilty, it is written in the court verdict you understand yes, that is, in russia in general now, it’s interesting to look at it all from the inside, but nevertheless, the court was held and, uh, actually, they heard an honest and good

assessment from just the aviation expert and the author of the book tragedy mh17 truth and lies vadim lukashevych thank you uh for this broadcast uh well, i am an expert of the actresses of the book tragedy m17 truth and lies and andriy huk, an aviation lawyer, were with us, and our marathon continues, we will continue it now, we will return very quickly and next we will talk about how ukraine is moving to the european union does it fulfill all the seven criteria that were not promised in the summer on emotions a-a or does it actually slip that we have already fulfilled what we have not fulfilled but it will be in a few minutes, we will listen to people suffering from rheumatism but arthritis is impossible before that get used to it, it doesn't allow me to move. i tried everything. and at the pharmacy, i bought a yellow dolgit cream. it saves me

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wonder if there will be some new dessert dedicated to the new prime minister, in fact, this moment of arrival was decided by sunaka. that's it, the meeting with zelensky is interesting, i wonder what they are talking about they say and why is this an unannounced visit ? well, i think that something like that will make its way into the media space from this meeting. that's right. well, in the meantime, we'll talk, you know, about the european prospects of european integration since ukraine received candidate status to be a huge breakthrough was a very ambitious statement by president zelenskyi. it was in the summer that by the end of autumn we will fulfill the seven requirements of the criteria that we had to complete in order to already move to the next phase of european integration itself

accession to the european union actually, whether they fulfilled or over-fulfilled or under-fulfilled something , we will talk about it with oleg rybachuk , a politician and public figure and the head of the analytical advocacy organization the center for joint actions and ihor kolyushko, the head of the board of the center for political and legal reforms. good day, gentlemen , we are glad to see you in our etheri greetings good day well, actually, let's not keep a pause and a secret here, but let's say frankly that we haven't done it yet, here is a very good article by serhiy sidorenko on the european in fact, who analyzed the progress of the fulfillment of these obligations and the conclusion is that, in general, there are hardly any prospects of throwing out all the criteria by the end of the year, and moreover, the most worrying point is that on some points there is, on the contrary , even a rollback from those achievements of reforms that already existed, let's see more details now 10:4 and 7

in a word, we are still far and away from the fact that all this will be done properly why why is this being done why at first it promises that we will do everything and now mr. oleg is somehow slipping, well, this is a tradition we yes, negotiations with the currency fund were always carried out , uh, from the first days there, i worked in the negotiation group with the currency fund, it always surprised me because people say to each other, well, that's unrealistic , we won't do it, but we have to get money, and it's a bad tradition in in this case, i would say that ah, and i was convinced that president zelenskyi, personally, as a person, as a president, really wants us to become a member of the european union, for me it is a miracle of god

that they received the candidacy, because how many years i remember as a vice-prime minister and later tried to get some specifics from the european union about what needs to be done. well, i always resisted the political will, a political decision and this war in ukraine, the fact that everything happened in a week even before that vote, it was not clear to us whether we would get this status or not, but we got it. and now what is the danger, because many countries that even voted to make us a candidate, they said, and the ukrainians will not fulfill it, so you will see, and now give them arguments in order to slow down, we need to remind our viewers that some countries like albania , north macedonia, they were in the status of a candidate there for 10-12 years, we definitely cannot afford this, and that is why the initiative seems very good, because i also spoke with elena with elena panchuk

and serhii sidorenko about the fact that a coalition of public organizations should be made and simply inform and sound the alarm because, er, we always start, then a lot of challenges appear, for god's sake. we have a war, everyone will tell you about it, but the issues of european integration are absolutely determined for our victory and for what we will be after the victory, so i have an answer that but i will tell you later, mr. mr. igor, in your opinion, it is in the fulfillment of these seven criteria that there are the biggest problems and that and problematic points well , first of all, i also agree that a very competent analysis was made by the center of the new europe, and actually what was published on the european truth.

let's say that out of these seven seven positions, there are things in which it is really difficult to expect objectively fast progress, well, first of all, it is judicial reform, and now there is a competition for the higher qualification commission of judges, there are more than 300 candidates who applied for that competition. it is absolutely natural that this competition can not take place there in one or two months' time, it will definitely last until spring or even until the middle of next year, it is at least worse that i already have negative evaluations of those appointments that took place in justice in the field of judicial reform here of course eh well, so far the situation is not so

critical eh there are still no final evaluations there are positive examples and such a little alarming examples headed by oask this is how it is this what is an example of how to react to it well this question is not specific the task is one of these seven seven defined for us, so here we can again be a little more flexible, the tasks on the judicial reform that we have undertaken to fulfill are primarily related to the completion of the reform of the higher department of justice and the higher qualification commission itself the laws about them were adopted last year, and now they just have to be implemented. unfortunately, this is what is happening in our country. well, so far, as we can see, they are partially objective, partially not, not completely clear. as for other areas,

of course, that's where i'm most of all, or rather not so i'll start with the simpler one. regarding the law on the procedure for electing judges of the constitutional court, it seems to me that there are all the reasons to adopt it in the near future, but for some reason, for some reason, it is simply being delayed, and we could really fulfill this point until the end at the end of this year, the law on national minorities seems to me to be the same in principle. well, there are comments on it, they just need to be sent to the venice commission or the council of europe, maybe another body will deal with it, uh, so far, for some reason, this has not been done and so on , that is, from here it seems to me that there is just some kind of inactivity, er, there are issues related to

anti-corruption activities, er, well, again, we have half fulfilled the head of sap, we appointed a special anti-corruption prosecutor's office, but now uh, no way, uh, it will start, well, they decided to debate how to hold elections for the head of the national agency for combating national corruption. for the procedure of this appointment, there is a difficult situation with the law on mass media, which was adopted in the first reading. actually, there are conclusions of the european

commission of the council of europe, they must be implicated . in the field of mass media, one gets the impression that the authorities have no desire to so clearly and transparently implement the recommendations of international standards , and this is of course the most disturbing. a strange point in this part , because what to do, how to implement the law of the 21st year, which, in my opinion, can hardly be called a legal act, judging by its content, it is difficult to say, unfortunately, unfortunately, the conclusion of the venice commission, which we expected for quite some time,

did not arrive, and the same serhiy sydorenko writes that the work on it has been stopped by the venice commission. well, the law on oligarchs is not very effective, as far as we understand it, yes, that is, there are other stories, that is, relatively speaking, the same poroshenko he did not avoid this status, let's say, quite simply and elegantly, but it did not help, for example, in the fact that, on the contrary , instead, the channels that were there with him were fooled somehow, and they ended up outside the general marathon and the most important thing is that they were deprived of their licenses for digital broadcasting without any legal grounds, well, that is, these are some things. they correlate quite well, and on the contrary, now we see how the same and the media holding of mr. akhmetov, he somehow , with the same people, returned to some kind of

nationwide marathon, but voila, it seems that akhmetov has nothing to do with it, and he is no longer an oligarch , so we can see that it does not have any practical effect. from mr. igor and i think that the audience is sitting now and saying well well, if volodymyr zelenskyy really wants it and there are slip-ups, then we will be in the european union or not. but i wanted to talk. will be in washington with a request there, too, er, to help so that it would be possible to do an analysis of the draft laws, because there is a desire, we issue nahor there, the deputies issue on hot cabins, he gives a bunch of draft laws on the mountains, and evaluate

how they correspond to how much they us how did you discuss the law on oligarchs or are you distancing the european union? there were no experts, but the problem is not that the problem is that well, you can understand that in fact all ukrainian presidents, even yanukovych, they welcomed the european prospect because it sounds beautiful, think moscow, there are no options for the future they didn't offer it, so politically it was always attractive, but for the first time in history, we got the status and it's not about recommendations anymore, it's about obligations. i studied for several years before creating a position the vice-prime minister for european integration and how it worked there. well, you are poles, i know well the scheme of how the poles worked, and it is superimposed on the ukrainian reality, but with the peculiarities of the poles, it looked like it. so the prime minister was at the head of the european integration process the chairman, that is, the highest

executive power, they created a separate committee that worked as a secretariat for european integration, further for ntu they had a short path , that is, any draft laws that passed the examination, they went out of turn and were accepted instantly but the main thing is that every week the entire polish government , and because of the prime ministers, there were also committee heads and any deputies who are interested in this, every week they reviewed the progress in ukrainian conditions, well, i'm sorry, the position of vice-prime minister for european integration issues the prime minister is not a lifting thing in ukrainian conditions, the power formula of zelenskyi is zelenskyi hiermak, that is, if zelenskyi really wants to have results, then he has to do it, there is no other way, he cannot, my colleague, the vice-prime minister for european affairs of integration to do these things and to move these

depths, that is, it should be so that every week every ukrainian official should meet there with the participation of zelensky or yermak and they should understand the responsibility for certain delays and this should absolutely be a priority under other conditions ukrainian it is a government machine. it will hang. the public is doing its job. what we inform you about is what we will discuss with you now, because the bureaucracy is very quickly forgotten, but the only way to achieve success in this is a personal one. commitment and personal control of president zelenskyi is not as usual, one hundred controls, but something for yarmak, this should be an absolutely absolutely absolute priority, then there would never be any intrigues. but yarmak has an assistant deputy tatarov, and for tatarov, part of these points about which we are talking about personally, there is contempt and personal humiliation, and here it arises. what

is actually against it? if you start to realize what you owe to european integration, then you lose real mechanisms of influence. the president is attractive because there is, they decided because there was always someone from the administration, you are not dependent here, dependent, and here is such a paradox. the officials who do it, and the same yarmak perfectly understands that if we do all this, then the bank office of the president will not be able to influence on court decisions will not be able to influence independent anti-corruption courts , moreover, they can come to them and raise suspicions against them, and that is why when we say nice things about some configuration about an independent system about an anti-corruption system about the introduction european principles, but the officials perfectly understand what this means for them personally, and that is why zelenskyi has a very huge challenge before zelenskyi. and you know that there were several such news this week, such a déjà vu from the times of viktor yanukovych, whom i mentioned here, who allegedly wanted

the european union with one hand and turned his head to the side to russia, yes, mr. igor, did you want to react in some way? actually, i wanted to, i wanted to argue a little with oleg. let's first of all, i completely understand, i admit that volodymyr zelensky is without a doubt the political leader of this government of ours, that is, he is the elected president, his party has a majority in the parliament and they form the government, but in my opinion, political leadership should never be confused with the exercise of the powers defined by the law. so when the president tries to replace the leader in a week and to carry out those powers which by law must

be carried out by the prime minister or the cabinet of ministers or someone else from this. i am deeply convinced that only problems arise because of sharing the general thesis that, of course, the role president volodymyr zelenskyi's role in european integration is extremely large and decisive. i am convinced that he should not usurp everything and do everything himself with his own office, as is possible, as mr. oleg said a little, and therefore he should actually delegate this to the cabinet of ministers in the cabinet of ministers, the capacity of the ministers to carry out european integration tasks should be strengthened, and not through some strange formation of a new ministry, which is predicted to be the ministry of european integration of culture and more

there is nothing there, there is no need for all these manipulations, the position of vice-prime minister for european integration is quite normal, she only needs to help create a sufficiently large apparatus that can be in the secretary of the cabinet of ministers, which will perform all tasks related to the european intelligence of the analytical center including such an agency, what the poles said about, for example, where it would be possible to attract the same poles who knew how to quickly go through this path, but then they must have real powers, including vice-premier or vice-premier, but we understand who has the real powers, i'm just now reading about, for example, that kudyrchuk is such a head of the state cinema hmm, what a victory for the head of the dovzhenka center for cynological studies, who was already suspended, who was appointed herself for a very dubious competition that is called falsified even now it promises that

it will guarantee a new fair competition for this is the same state cinema and with all that, for example , there are already several partners of yermak sazanovsky sushko in the composition of the council for the support of cinematography there and so on. that is, this is a real, real policy that exists. i am not talking about the fact that , for example, recently there was a request from journalists from journalistic alice and they turned to the office of the president, i wanted to hear an answer about the presence of business partners there or there some people close to yarmak are now in ukraine, ukrnafta and these gas stations, and we know what the answer was, it was worse than the one received by journalists during yanukovych's time, this is also a reality, all these problems yes, mr. oleg is saying something, but he can't hear me, but you know what

i will say, i know this, you know, it’s just mr. kulyvushka’s topic, whether zelenskyi is ready to go down in history as a person who led, won the war and led ukraine to the european union or the european union, but at the same time, does he understand that we will have to deal with the dualism of power is this not such a critical problem of ukraine in general that any president in our country begins to pull that blanket over himself and take away powers that he should not have ? well, yes. so there should be a discussion about this too, but listen , let's not fool each other, right now if the deputy prime minister, i also convened these meetings. if now the vice prime minister will convene all the responsible officials, well, she does not have or does the prime minister have no real influence on we perfectly now understand that zelenskyi has no greater opponent of the presidential model than me i believe that if we declare that we are becoming a member of the european union, then there are no such forms of management, but today we have what we have, we have a war, we have

absolute power, uncontrolled, unbalanced power, not only from zelensky and people like yermak, because yermak is responsible for 10 influential prime ministers, and dad is the main person without whom he can slow down, manipulate, delay any processes, and here we have such a situation, but they made reforms that zelensky must understand that this is an obligation and he must understand another thing is that several countries, including germany and france, our traditional netherlands, have said that this will not happen, that ukraine will not be able to achieve results for various reasons. therefore, before zelensky's time, he should go down in history as a person who will change system of power, he promised us that he would simply build an effective system of power, because now without

it being a priority for zelensky, for yarmak, for tatarov, it is absolutely impossible. there is no yurmak, no way, and the government, the parliament, you don’t even know what it does, they are doing all sorts of tricks there again, the president's office, we have a bad system, these people can do it, they have to be forced to do it, they are kept with such discussions, well, oleg is a former one, too, a little yarmak well, okay, sorry for this comparison. now i literally have, well, 10 seconds on the reaction of that is why we go over the ethereal self and our government very often, but there were a lot of testimonies and a lot of publications that when the full-scale invasion of the

aggressor began in our country from february 24 to defense of our country, and it was noted by many as a great positive, which was one of the reasons for our victories in at this stage , i am convinced that doing the same in all other situations will never be good from the president will carry out should he take on unconstitutional powers and try to carry them out in some administrative way , he can, as a political leader, decide personnel issues, if someone does not cope, the prime minister or deputy prime minister, he has all completeness of power together with