tv [untitled] November 19, 2022 10:00pm-10:31pm EET
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quite precisely, with such a means of morale after another retreat, now already in the south of ukraine, russian troops will surely increase the pressure on the positions of the enemy in other areas of the front, this can be both the zaporizhia direction and the donbas, where russia did not achieve any serious successes after the occupation of lysychansk in early july, which means the main battles for bakhmut ugledara in action and other cities were still ahead with you were donbas realities my name is igor loginov see you no matter what the ukrainians think about, no matter what they talk
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their mufflers and fire extinguishers will be handed over to the frontline soldiers who defend ukraine on the first line of fire, let's get closer to victory together glory to ukraine glory to ukraine dear tv viewers on the air of the tv channel espresso program, studio event, we will analyze the most important events that will undoubtedly affect the development of our history in the coming months, in particular, we are talking about the meeting at on the island of bali, during which extremely important conclusions were drawn, in particular, and in beijing , we will also analyze genocidal russian practice, in particular, it is about the destruction of objects of our critical infrastructure, our guests will be former adviser to the united states secretary of state matthew bryza and political scientist andriy piontkovsky, who is currently in washington on the espresso tv channel, special envoy
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of the united states secretary of state, former director of european and eurasian affairs in the case of national security of the united states, matthew bryza i congratulate you mr. bryzap in the studio of the espresso tv channel pshevodov, the russian missile most likely killed two people, yes, and we understand that this incident is extremely powerful and could have extremely large consequences, in any case, we understand that the situation has escalated so much that sooner or later it may be involved the fifth article of the euro-atlantic charter, we do not know exactly what happened, president biden repeated the comments of the president of poland, because dudy, however, it was definitely not an attack on poland, at least that's what the president said duda and president biden said that the evidence to date indicates that it was not a russian missile and that it was launched precisely in ukraine.
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bringing his research to the point, after reviewing various conversations on twitter, some come to the conclusion that this missile was armed with ukraine and not russia, they say who knows, he listened very carefully to what president zelensky said about this, namely that he received a report from the ukrainian air defense, which says that it was not a ukrainian missile and that he is going to take their word for it, and this is logical after all, he is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, and yet he also said that he is waiting for additional information. i think that nato secretary general mr. stoltenberg is right, who said that even if this missile was ukrainian, ukraine is not to blame, instead, all the blame lies on the shoulders of russia. if ukraine launched anti- aircraft missile and it got into polish territory. that's only because russia is attacking ukraine. therefore
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, there is no fault of ukraine in this. i also think that we know that it was a s-300 anti-aircraft missile and we also know that russia repurposed the s-300 air defense system for ground attacks . since it is running out of other high-precision guided missiles of the ground class, so i am all for the possibility that it could have been russia that launched the s-300, but a deliberate hit on polish territory would be an extreme provocation given the there was a russian objection, my instincts tell me that in this case there could have been an accident at the same time. it is quite possible that it could also have been a provocation. russia then nevertheless fired more than 100 missiles on ukrainian territory therefore, the probability that the conflict will spill over into the territory of nato in poland is already practically felt . well, i would not like to be the so-called bad prophet , but in any case, we understand that a similar
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provocation may be repeated under other circumstances, and that another missile may go astray and hit one or other populated areas of estonia, lithuania, latvia, poland, slovakia, or the czech republic, so no one is immune from something like this, because the war is going on and the russians have been releasing almost 100 missiles on our territory in recent days, and accordingly, i would like to understand whether someone will publicly or not publicly tell putin to stop . the united states at some point told putin to stop. no, the former head of the state department, bill burns, who is now the head of the cia , was recently in ankara . think about using nuclear weapons i don't know what else he specifically said but the general tone was
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aimed at stopping it the costs to russia will be colossal they are already extremely high and will continue to grow, so theoretically it could be a provocation from russia to test our resolve and the next step could be attacks on any of the baltic countries or even on poland or the czech republic, but if at least one such attack happens, i think that the reaction the united states of poland and the rest of nato countries will be significantly different. let's be honest, no one in nato and no one in russia. i hope the people there are not crazy yet. nato and russia, regardless of what russian propaganda says, despite the ridiculous statement of the russian ambassador to the united nations, the statement of the former president and prime minister medvedev, despite shouts that these messages from the west are a
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provocation to try to drag nato into the war, which is simply ridiculously sobering thinking people in russia understand that article 5 will be a disaster for russia and for the whole world, so i think that everyone today collectively experienced relief that russia may not have intended to attack nato territory. but if it will happen again it will become clear that this is not just a coincidence i remember my experience working in the white house on september 11, 2001 before our first market meeting we saw the first plane hit one of the twin towers and we all thought at the time that it was a terrible accident we had i left our meeting and watched the news again and saw that already the second plane had hit the twin towers and we immediately understood that it was a deliberate terrorist attack, and it would be the same if there was another such attack on polish territory.
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on the other hand, mr. ambassador, we understand that the director of the cia borns, meeting with the head of the russian foreign intelligence service in ryshkin, probably spoke not only about the inadmissibility of the use of nuclear weapons, we understand that rather they could have been certain diplomatic emissaries and brokers who could exchange so -called opinions, exchange of opinions between representatives different states, so to speak, and we understand what they could talk about, they could, so to speak , try to outline the so-called contour of the pyrologues, so to speak, because more and more appears signals that russia is ready for certain negotiations, we understand that the key condition from our side is the withdrawal of russian interventionist troops from our territory and the guarantee of our security
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. under what conditions is a serious question and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff of the united states, general milley, said yesterday that with the onset of winter, tactical military operations will slow down because it will be very cold, as shown practice this is exactly how winter military operations are conducted, he assumed, although it is possible and he did not assume, i don’t know. but maybe he had more information, but he thought that the time was coming when putin would have to think about negotiations on how to stop hostilities and save some cattle of his reputation, so every the war ends with diplomatic negotiations, or an armistice or a peace treaty or an agreement is concluded, or the war continues indefinitely, in this case, i believe that the ukrainian military in
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partnership with its nato allies won russia is on the battlefield now, the russian troops, which we all know, have left kherson. they are on the left bank of the dnieper and this is a huge humiliation for the russian military, like their withdrawal from afghanistan, and they will not win there. they will not win in donbas, where ukraine also constantly pushes back russia lost the war period, so the question is how much russia wants to lose, i interpret the russian defense formations on the left bank of the dnieper as defending not only to protect themselves but also in order to protect crimea from loss as a result of the ukrainian offensive, in military terms, the situation for russia leaves much to be desired , all that it can do is to continue to destroy ukraine, causing suffering to its inhabitants, to brave
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ukrainians, thinking that you will run away and break, but this is not about you determination grows stronger with each subsequent attack so there is nothing they can do putin tried to scare us with the threat of nuclear war but mr. burns went and pressured moscow to stop these threats so he has there are no more military options he can't win this war he controls the russian media that's why he is ultimately able to present any outcome to his people as a win russian mindset should be taken into account russians don't think the way we do they don't think about costs or benefits or what is overall strategic goal of russia in trying to destroy ukraine i think they are starting from the fact that they just need to show the west that they will not be intimidated that they will give up and even if they
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lose a lot of soldiers they will still stand they emphasized that they will fight if their interests are threatened and i think that putin will be able to bring this idea to the national level and then continue the withdrawal of his troops, but the main issue will be crimea in russia, this will be a devastating and possibly fatal political blow for putin if he will agree to return crimea to ukraine, and for president zelensky, it will be a very painful political blow if, after all this, he simply says, well, russia can leave it alone. so this issue is very important, there is one more an extremely important point is the guarantee of ukrainian security, which formula could be effective, because our constitution states that ukraine's euro-atlantic course will not change. that is, we are ready to join nato, we even submitted
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an application. in bucharest in romania and i was here in april 2008 when nato made the terrible decision in large part thanks to the then chancellor of germany angel and merkel not to propose a membership action plan for ukraine and georgia and i believe that this was one of the biggest strategic mistakes that nato has ever made , because if the euro-atlantic path of ukraine, if its membership in nato was approaching through a corresponding action plan for membership, i do not think that putin would have ever dared to invade georgia and i also could not have joined ukraine in the 14th year and today we would be talking about something else, so i understand that the constitution of ukraine states that membership in nato is your aspiration, but let's see, diplomats and political leaders can approach creatively
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searching for a solution using constructive ambiguity, which was that ukraine maintains neutrality for the time being, but it maintains its desire for the future, i mean that the agreement that was considered, which was previously accepted by ukraine in march of this year, was that ukraine would announce its neutrality how long will it last and the status of crimea and donbas will be determined or discussed in 15 years, russia will withdraw all its troops that came after february 24, i know that for president zelenskyi and for the ukrainian people, such an agreement has already lost its relevance, so something similar is still needed, but from the point of view of security guarantees, in addition to short-term membership in nato, it is possible to be even more creative in this matter, we have a special need to strengthen the partnership with finland and sweden, for example, which are now finally going to join nato we had a very special
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partnership with them in the field of security and sweden even declared a few years ago, although at that time it had no desire to join nato, but in fact they made their own equivalent of solidarity with the article five, which says that an attack on any member of nato will be considered an attack on sweden, so ukraine can resort to making such statements and even if ukraine will not receive membership in nato in the near future, it can already begin to behave as a participating country dear sir ambassadors, a meeting on the island of bali, well, in any case, it was there that the undoubtedly historic meeting of president joseph biden with the leader of china took place, all in jingping. will now be ready to play more with the united states, yes, because when they talk about a bipolar world, it does not involve a third player, the russian
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federation, maybe now sisinpin, after talking with president joseph biden, will be ready to work more actively in this situation, first of all, i think it should definitely be g19 russia in no way deserves to be a member of this group, therefore it must be excluded under the scenario of expulsion from the g8, based on mugu's understanding of what was discussed by all the ringers, president biden of course, their mutual opposition to russia's war against ukraine was a key point not only in the sin-zin-pin, but also in rendra fashion, the leader of india made it clear in recent months that they consider it unacceptable that russia resorts to nuclear threats and in the communique of the g20 for i was really interested in the fact that all parties, including russia, agreed to condemn the war in ukraine, of course russia is trying to present it as a condemnation of ukraine, but i think that everyone and joseph
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biden meant exactly this communique condemnation of russia for its imprudence for its war crimes in its illegal invasion of ukraine the mood between seidhenpin and biden again coming from zay on both sides after the meeting did not seem to be negative it seemed that they are seeking or have already created a new foundation for pragmatic relations despite huge disagreements about taiwan that will not go anywhere and also big disagreements about tor because the trade sanctions of the trump administration against china are still in effect in the biden administration but the opposition the russian war in ukraine is what unites the usa and china, as well as the need to fight pandemics around the world and restore their economies despite trade differences, and finally the fight against climate change also unites the usa and china, creating a completely different
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atmosphere in relations the usa with china than in russia's relations with china. in the end, this is the same china and there is no question of friendship, but now you can look for ways to cooperate, and one of them is to deter russia from further war crimes against we understand ukraine, uh, soviet ukraine. in the current situation, there can be no peace until putin withdraws his troops, but all the same, there are more and more frequent attempts to talk about the possibility of peace negotiations, etc. and so on. you have outlined very correctly the situation, but i would like to clarify whether this is somehow related to the fact that putin is running out of economic and military resources, in particular, patrushev's visit to iran testified that the russian missile program cannot be implemented without iran, and so on and so on so, according to your opinion, how many resources does russia currently have to continue the active phase of the war, we understand that there are human resources, but this is a
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question of technology and this is a question of economic resources, it depends on how much suffering putin wants to inflict on the ukrainian people, we know that in russia, as you said, they are running out high-precision guided munitions and it switched to iranian not very accurate drones. therefore, russia does not have sufficient volumes of missile weapons and there is no possibility to restore them due to technological and commercial restrictions and sanctions are imposed against russia but it still has a lot of money russia still earns huge sums from the export of oil and natural gas although it is getting smaller and smaller russia can buy weapons from iran and north korea and unfortunately continue to bring suffering for some time means that the international community should act against iran. we once talked to you about us-iranian relations, or at least we mentioned them, we said that the
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biden administration hoped to improve relations with iran and it is possible to resurrect a joint comprehensive plan of action, the so-called iran nuclear agreement. but this is no longer relevant, and now washington is again focused on how to put pressure on iran, first of all, because of its harsh repression, in fact, against women and girls who are protesting throughout the country after the death of an iranian woman jackets by origin, which was in the custody of the religious police, secondly, of course, because now iran will support russia against ukraine. so, it is time for the international community to put pressure on iran to stop supplying weapons to russia but i think that in iran's arsenal there are enough such weapons to allow russia to continue operating for some time and in the end it is necessary to provide you with what you in ukraine have been asking for all this time, namely that we help you close your sky by providing more
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system power of air defense, which we are doing now. i think we can get to the point where you will see fighter jets from nato countries arriving in ukraine, maybe this will require the settlement of major political disputes in the west, but definitely more perfect anti-aircraft missile systems are already arriving, and ukraine needs much more of such systems so that it can defend itself, how will the situation in the united states change after the elections? yes, we understand that donald trump was fortunately defeated, but the key question for us lies in the three-word formula abrams f16 and of course etakems rockets the victory of the republicans in the house of representatives was so insignificant that i do not believe in the possibility of radical changes in the policy of supporting ukraine to the speaker of the house of representatives kemino mccarthy it is very difficult to deal with all the differences
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within the republican party in the house of representatives military support for ukraine is very popular in the united states i mean the general public and it will continue i think that on the map again the republican now the leader of the lower house of parliament the house of representatives tried to politicize military aid the usa to ukraine, just as donald trump did when he pressured the president in the infamous phone conversation that led to the impeachment of president trump, this tactic of mccarthy failed trump is left without the support of the electorate none of the main senate candidates or governors that trump supported won any us elections in the last round so trump's direction was rejected now whether he will win in 2024 is a different matter because it has to do with his forty percent support from republican
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voters and so if many republicans run against him his 40% will be the most he will be the republican nominee in 2024 even though that he is wildly unpopular and 60% of americans don't like him. as for abrams tanks, f-16 planes and atakams, i personally feel that the priority is atakams . powerful and therefore are what ukraine urgently needs now, they are purely defensive weapons in relation to f16 fighters, so i still feel concern in washington that this will be seen as the us playing along with the russian narrative that in fact it is not ukraine that is waging a war, but nato and the usa is waging an offensive war against russia, which is a lie and false propaganda, but from a political
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point of view, the possibility of such a narrative gives rise to hesitation in washington regarding the provision of f-16 fighters. that’s all someone else can do. poland can decide to provide f16, then it is possible , taking into account all that what has happened since the last discussion of this issue between warsaw and washington, maybe this time washington will say well give 16 to ukraine and we will give you new f-16s when we can or probably they will be f-35s the discussion will remain open regarding the provision of m1 abrams, such a step will be seen as even more provocative by those in washington who are afraid to provoke moscow. personally, i believe that ukraine fought with such skill, with such brilliance and with such courage that we really should give your brave soldiers more armored vehicles, be it m1 or some other systems, of course ukraine needs these systems and it is in our
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common interests for ukraine to win this war and end the military phase as soon as possible, you die defending ourselves and also defending us and we must give you all possible support as director benz did at one point when he went to moscow we must expose putin's bluff and say we know you don't plan to use nuclear weapons tell the kremlin you know and we know that nato is not attacking you but we are going to ensure your defeat on the battlefield and if this requires m1 f16 or atakams we will provide them to ukraine but the debate in washington has not reached this point yet thank you very much mr. ambassador for this extremely significant and high-quality analysis is on the air of the espresso tv channel, and i want to remind our tv viewers that the ex-adviser of the united states secretary of state, the former director of european and eurasian affairs at the
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us national security council, met bryza's goals, was working for them. espresso andriy piontkovsky, a political scientist who is in washington. glory to ukraine andriy andriyovich. i welcome you to the espresso lyrimes rover tv channel. good afternoon, the incident with the yaka missile killed two people in poland, fortunately, it did not become a prologue to the third world war, on the other hand , an extremely important moment that, in principle, stressed many experts from different sides of the ocean, this is a certain desynchronization in the previous statements, yes, from the presidential administration of the united states and the presidential administration of ukraine. to hope that the investigation will put dots over it, well, this is the most unpleasant thing, and this is the most confession from russian propaganda. i think that the point of view on which it stopped
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now the collective west, it was declared that all these security measures are in any case to blame for russia , having started the war in ukraine, in the case of their loved ones, they will protect their territory with available means. the focus of the world's public attention for several days was diverted precisely to this event at that time. destruction of the infrastructure of ukraine, it was necessary to use these days for the maximum mobilization of the west and everything free in the world of all our allies precisely for the condemnation of russia's war crime, which was
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called the crime after the first wave of these attacks, the statement of the big seven, which was called the big eight all the time i.e. october. and what is the situation like - this is a military crime, and the development of adequate and peaceful defense of ukraine from this threat, as well as the provision of air defense systems, as well more radical, in my opinion, the elimination of this problem, the introduction of long-range missiles, this is a problem in ukraine that will restrain russia from home attacks. details of this polish institute, on the other hand, we understand that what the cream is trying to start now is a direct genocide already in the kremlin, and they are not ashamed, they do not hide it anymore, they say that it has
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to be an instrument of pressure, i.e. the killing of peaceful civilian ukrainian citizens in their homes from the cold, what would it be like to be an instrument of pressure on our military and political leadership, well, you know, they no longer have the illusion that such a company is being built when on the 10th, yes, on october 10, they would е тыхом было заставить украина вылось на проегомы, sunny negotiations, the ukrainian army is coming, they have increased theirs, they have not assigned the negotiations, this means stopping the offensive of the ukrainian army and possibly stopping the supply of the harvest. they will tell the world one chance for everyone , the fifth one, what will she shout , and so on.
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