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espresso i'm anzhelika sezonenko and today i have an interview with a correspondent for your attention in particular and a former journalist of the espresso tv channel, now a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine well, and my friend anastasia vyshak nastya i congratulate you hello liko i congratulate you i am glad to see you and hear from each other finally we found time technical possibilities and we can talk to you, because there is something nastya , first of all, you are not hungry, you are not cold, you are not hungry, my brothers gave me coffee, they gave me cookies, they gave me everything, the volunteers are helping to eat, they are feeding

me stews, i can’t eat anymore, i can’t look at her, stew, yes, i know that's not what you like. you like hard meats. you like meat. you and i really like to eat well. how do you survive at the front when there is often no hot and normal food? well, before coming here, i mentally prepared myself for all conditions . to the worst, because i didn't understand how it would be there, that is, the war had been going on for eight years in the country. i will get there and what will be the conditions for me, but nothing. well, you can adapt to everything, you can get used to everything. there is no way to wash there, so they invented wet

wipes for this, and we have the opportunity to wash the hair for girls - i am dry shampoo. well, somehow wash things with this trouble because things start to stink but well, everyone, the smell here is like that from everyone , it’s somehow normal, we smell it and continue to serve and laugh and sin nastya, and where did you sleep today, because we understand that the life of the military is on the front lines. it ’s completely different every night, sometimes it’s the trenches, sometimes it’s possible somewhere some kind of abandoned house, i must say that i have never lived in the trenches, uh, our

boys live in the trenches, and i’m still there. i don't get cold in winter warm sleeping bags. this it's good that at least you're not cold. please tell me about the woman's weight. speak in tons, but i can't help but say that you weigh less than 50 kg. you're a skinny little girl. you're carrying a lot of ammunition. how many kilograms do you carry every day ? i don't know where i found them, but i got on the scale completely in all my uh, um, full of my niceness, and it was + 15 kg + 15 kg to my weight. at first, it was really difficult. well , my back hurt, but it gets used to everything then i realized that somewhere in a week, 1.5 weeks is me i'm already used to it. and if i were to say that i

didn't feel this weight on me at all, i wouldn't say that, but i'm just used to it, but when you're constantly walking around in this armor, my back hurts a lot in the evening, and it's important there, for example, when you sit down to eat, it is better to take off the armor to give your back a chance to rest. well, there, when you go to bed, of course, you also take off the armor. well, someone sleeps in armor, depending on which region the military serviceman or serviceman is in. here i am now i took off my bulletproof vest to talk to you, mmm well, i ’m used to it, i’m saying, you know here, well, we’re ukrainians . a civilian does not understand this well, apart from

the fact that it is the bulletproof vest itself, stores also attach it to it, plus well, plus, there must also be a first-aid kit with you, this is a must. it must be fastened. it will be a bulletproof vest or up to the leg. the foot is not very comfortable at all plus this with you so that you carry a weapon, a submachine gun, well, officers carry pistols, i'm not an officer, i'm a soldier, so i have a submachine gun, i have to constantly carry it because if a soldier loses his weapon, it's a problem, i just can't imagine you, to be honest, you're so thin with a submachine gun, how do you hold it ok, ok , keep it up, i'm saying it again, again, i'm used to the machine and you can't go anywhere without it. well, with you, uh, and there when you go to sleep, he should also be there next to you, or somewhere there is a specially equipped city for him. -e hm yes plus more to

just to say that there are probably still storks, despite the fact that there is a first-aid kit, i still have two tourniquets with me and scissors. i also put uh and more and more i don't blame myself for anything, because the more you blame yourself, the harder it is for you listen, hold on automatic machine it is good, but at the front you need to be able to use it you have been on the front line for several months and before that you went through training i know please tell me how many weeks this training lasted or maybe a month and how exactly it went why did you study there and what are you already making up directly on the front lines, well, in general, regarding weapons, i still knew how to shoot, no, i won’t say that it was really cool, i was able to shoot there. no, but i still didn’t. i went to the shooting range in civilian life.

i liked it. hmm, and then of course there was my training, which lasted for almost three weeks, and we were taught all this and tactical medicine, topography and psychology, and of course we went to training grounds, and at those training grounds, we were taught to keep load the weapon there reload shoot why we studied i won't say that well at the training very much there are many places to shoot, but when i came here, of course, the military personnel are also constantly training and studying. well, there are more opportunities to learn. well, in principle , i can handle weapons, well, i know that they have automatic weapons to always be a safety guard for us so that god forbid we don't shoot at anyone there and that no one shoots you, this is a

safety technique and it's not necessary, you can't forget about it, it's true, i don't like it. uh, that's it then you have to clean your weapon and it takes a long time and hmm and it’s very difficult to clean it you need to have special oil with you and with that oil you rub everything there with a cloth, well it’s a long time you haven’t had to use a machine gun yet, not for training no you haven’t yet nastya tell me in the armed forces of ukraine now approximately 50 already more than 50,000 women are actually serving in your battalion. how many women are there? you're not the only one there, if i'm not mistaken there are five of us, we are scattered in different regions there, we hardly cross each other, er, five we are there

women of various professions. that is, there are doctors and, er, our cooks. well, how can i ask the king? what are your immediate duties as a press officer? work with journalists. work with mass media. that is, i have to ensure that journalists come here. they were filmed there safely, follow them so that they go somewhere , not the whole place, because we understand that kharkiv oblast has many territories, and yes, in kharkiv oblast, we liberated the armed forces of ukraine, but the russians left behind a lot of these mines petals in which they are called simply, well, the darkness is something. it is clear that our military personnel are constantly inspecting the entire area there, cleaning everything, but well, it is impossible, it is impossible to take everything from there, and

i am always afraid that one of the journalists of the police is somewhere in the wrong place and, god forbid, it blows up . i am following behind them, i always say yes , follow me clearly on the path, and they themselves are walking, i look, i think , god, i want to call, god, there is no place to step, well, i have, i must do it, or it was safe for them, organizational work well, we pass there, well, in those places where they wouldn't have gone without me. well, that's how you already drive a car. i'll point out that before the full-scale war, i was only studying and didn't have much experience. now, i understand that you are practicing to the fullest . that here we have to cross over pontoon crossings, we drive off-road. i'm so interested, it's so tight, nastya, and then yes, and then i think, damn, i'm in such extreme conditions

, and i know how to drive a car here, and then i'll come to kyiv. there, it's probably just at chumak level, friends i won't be able to i won't be able to later because of a traffic jam. but how can you describe these few months of yours at the front as a woman warrior directly? and as a woman warrior directly, i won't say that . i won't say that it's difficult for me here, but on the contrary , angelica, my husbands cook food, even nothing , they help in everything, carry something heavy somewhere there, if you need to take something there, bring something here, even now i've arrived and i'm saying this, i have an interview with angelica so that let me do everything

they turned everything on for me here, sterling, so that i could have a connection, i would be able to talk to you, have coffee there, they will make a treat with something well, hmm, there is enough work and attention. the first - it is so neutral and even, as in principle it is probably correct, the second - it is the project that she told about, so thrifty, caring, it is possible to refuse a woman from some more difficult tasks, to provide her more, and the third, well, it is so sexist, they say that women at the front have no place in you, what have you heard about by your brothers and sisters, the same thing was told to me by some people there, what did you forget, your children are still lying here, come on, come back, i say, wait, start, if i want to come back now, i am

voluntarily mobilized, i can't right now, just oh, i'm fed up goodbye i'm gone, we're all now serving for victory that is, well, i'm already saying that hello, please show more respect to well, don't say that to me, well, these are such isolated cases, of course , without this, angelica, without this, no way, i've come across this when i came to the military commissariat came what did you forget here, do you know where you are going as they told me when i already passed the medical commission of the military commissariat, the doctor told me that you had gathered for the war i say well yes and he says yes they are shooting there and i tell him yes i will call the police if you shoot there i yes she joked well, i'm just going to the colonel, they brought me in, and they took me to the colonel, he refused me, the mother said to the army, no, you don't have to. go back home, volunteer to do something there, be on your information front, but here are

such moments, if already well, i thought about it, that is, about i thought about joining the army. for about three years, i was still on espresso when i was working. i had such thoughts, but of course there was fear, confusion, how i would be able to endure being there, and psychologically. well, you came up with so many possibilities because i don't remember that you talked about it, i didn't talk about it, i thought about it. that is, these were my thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, and then at some point i realized that i should stop thinking and act, and that's why when i i have already thought to myself when i have adjusted and when me they started rejecting me at the military commissariat and there were some friends of mine who knew. i mean, you, do you remember? you didn't even know that i was going to the army, that is,

i didn't tell anyone because i knew that you all would reject me. at that moment i wanted to be told there nastya i am proud of your choice there good afternoon there we will help you with something there yes well i wanted to hear these words and in the end the military commissars refused me even when i was already in the school, that is, there is no way back i couldn't just go home, i already had got into the school and there is only one way - it is already to join your brigade, then everyone refused there, they refused, go home and well, because i am a woman, i am a woman, i still need to give birth, this is the argument, eh. i understand that a woman should give birth, and in the future it is possible someday and she gives birth there to one or two children, how many, god willing, how will it be nastya as a woman, what difficulties do you

face at the front every day ? battalion and she went to her brigade as a whole, of course , they immediately issued a uniform, issued a weapon, and they gave me this uniform, i put it on myself , there was no mirror to look at myself, and i went to tighten my belt, and then when i had the opportunity looking around, i saw that i have this shoulder where the shoulder should be, my pants hang down to the elbow. my pants are puffy. yes, my pants are up to my ankles, just here, very short, uh, then uh, here, here, natalia had to pull them down. that's how 15 times so that the pants don't sleep flowers we almost up to my knees, that's how i realized that i look like, well, you know, there are beautiful

military personnel who put up photos of me , well, someone there, someone remembers me there once, took a picture with my comrades, and will come to you. and what should i do? well if it's easier for men, for example, you gave them a form, if it didn't fit them, they left, they just changed it to another, gave them a different size and they all left happy, women don't have such a thing here, i found the smallest size of the form and it didn't fit me at all, right, sample there is no longer an approved women's form and they are only being developed, and in fact, if it were not funny, but it is more laughter through tears, because we have the ninth year of the war, i will remind you, and not nine months ago, somehow it is very strange why after so many years a woman we always had them at the front, they didn’t develop this

women’s uniform, panties, sorry, socks well, for example , socks, uh, underwear, that’s all mine, men are given the only thing that i need to remove the thermal underwear . and yes, it is not the problem is honestly not a problem to buy, because each of my military employees receives money , they go to the card, that is, i buy everything for myself, well, well, this is abnormal provision from the state, it’s elementary things, it’s elementary and it’s not like that, because how can it not be like that, i agree to that that it was really the ninth year of the war, the 9th year of the war, and there were always women in the army, and if i couldn't wear my clothes there that would suit me, yes, and go, no , we should have a pixel military uniform, ours, well

, there were just such moments what, for example, there is me they let go of the store, there are all sorts of military stores , i think. well, i will buy them there, i’m coming, but there are no sizes there either. well, there are no sizes, it’s a good thing that there are volunteers. for example, volunteers who were engaged in tailoring and women’s uniforms. i accidentally came across them on instagram, i immediately wrote to you, i want you order uniforms i immediately dropped all my parameters , they emphasized that i am tall, well, i have long legs, my problem is that i always wear short pants. it's cold in the army, well, it's really cold, especially now, i can't be fashionable here , because i'm here. i have to dress normally , and it turns out that hmm, it's good that i came across this page, uh, they offered me that they can send it for free i refused this uniform, i did not

say no, i will buy it from you because i understand that they themselves collect money for uniforms for women that they sew, and i paid 2,200 for this uniform, that is the cost price, that is, i paid for the fabric for the work, they did not charge me. that is, well yes me a women's uniform appeared, in fact, once again, raise the issue, no one wants to dispel treason there somehow, but winter clothes are even men's . as far as i know, not all military personnel are still provided for, although the government allocated funds for this. but why such a late reaction with orders from the state? well, no it is clear, everything is due to volunteers, everything is due to international organizations, it is somehow very strange, strange, strange, but i do n’t know the explanation.

a week or two and it will appear here, that is, they are already writing this form, embroidering it, it will reach us soon, but it is specifically for our battalion there, because we are served by very good people who really knock out and negotiate there who spend a lot of time, effort and energy on this, i don't know how it is in other brigade battalions, well, i don't know, but we should soon have one. but again, the language of sizes will not be the same with shoes . - this is actually a big problem you there i was talking about dry shampoo. but this is already a certain luxury for yourself, because volunteers can give it to you, but the state does not particularly provide hygiene products for women. i bought all the shampoos there,

sanitary napkins, well, everything is there somewhere, which everyone understands. well, i bought it all with this, everyone arrived , and then the volunteers already gave us a ride, there are a lot of volunteers. it helps me when they deliver, i try to distribute it to everyone, you leave it there i just share a little bit with everyone, well, i don’t know, hmm , should the state provide us with these hygiene products? well, i think that we will definitely buy them ourselves. possible problems, which are still possible problems, which are not generally voiced like that, but you noted for yourself that oh, women don't have enough of this, the form of clothing, clothes, everything is more of such problems, honestly, everything is fine, ok, then let's move on to this one,

perhaps the most painful, and the question for you is that this war is connected with a personal tragedy. i think all of ukraine, everyone knows your love story with oleksandr makhov, your fiancé, who unfortunately died on the fourth of may this year in the village of dovgenka in kharkiv oblast, a piece of debris got into his lung, and you recently told in an interview, showed the place where it happened, where this tragedy happened, i will not ask you how to survive it mountains ago that i know that you have not survived, i will not ask atb how to cope with this pain, because i know that it still hurts you very much. i will ask you how to live with this grief and with this pain , because it is important that you give from your experience some

advice to those women or families who also lose sons, husbands, daughters, all the same with cymbals there i continue to live i wake up with i don't know i'm there every minute i still think about it ah hmm it's just not worth it at this point i understand what myself what i am very obsessed with this, but still i try to somehow distract myself with some things and do something because, um, if i closed myself off from you all from the support of people close to me, and in particular you, too, i have been supported very much by my age and you support me, surely would be it would be more difficult if i sat at home and

kept it all to myself, but i had it for 20 days, i was 21 days, three weeks, but i had it after the burial, eh. i just went to my sister in zaporizhzhia, my native place. my nephew, but i realized that i can't do that because it hurts so much, it's so hard and i realized that i just need to go back to life in civilization, that is, i needed to meet my friends, i went back to work, uh, i tried to arrange some small joys for myself small on trips, i allowed myself this, and it distracted me and burdened me, so i came up with many, many things for myself for the day, i just walked home and went to bed without strength, because i would be very tired

. i understood that hmm, that i want to be among heroes, among heroes, among the military, who were there later, we became brothers and sisters, and that's why i went on to the army, nastya. i'm sorry right away, my question may sound cynical, but i'm not asking you as a friend, as a journalist. it's just me i know that you always was brave even before a full-scale war and such a purposeful, very stubborn girl in a good way, but when you decided to go to

war , first of all, these were your first feelings. i found out that you were looking for danger for yourself. i wanted to be where sasha was and feel what he went through. i didn't come here to look for death. i don't think that dying is true because i have a lot of plans for this life. related to that so that the old-timers will have a memory of their sashka. hmm, then some will appear for me, well, they are appearing little by little. that's right, but i didn't come here to die. i definitely don't want to die. i don't want to look for death, but i'm dull this is what this fear is, i won't say that it's cool here, it shouldn't

be like that, because there should be an instinct, an instinct for self-preservation, when something falls, you hear you have to fall. that is, i have such a thing, but i won't say that uh, i'm afraid there is no, no, it is there, but this fear is dulled, er, well, the instinct of self-preservation i am present. yes, when i hear something flying, when i hear some exits or something else, i fall to the ground, as it should be. and how did you manage to get to and serve in the place where oleksandr makhov was also near and where he died, how did it happen? is it by chance or did you want to be exactly where it is not by chance it is not like that it happened by chance i myself found opportunities to serve in this

direction, well it is in order to continue what sasha did not finish defending you mean the motherland and well exactly this direction where he is was because he fought here until the last 70 days 70 days he was in such a hellish hell terrible i when we already went to that long one it is not far from here and when i saw this village it was big in general and when i saw how broken they were well it was simply erased owl, you know what my first question was, and what is he like in general, my sasha, i still have 70 days of them to try .