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can already receive our medical services from us. thank you. i just wanted to say about generators. well, you answered it yourself, so now everyone understands that medicine works. if i am generators, it definitely works. pharmacies are working, and thank god, yuriy sobolevskyi, the first deputy chairman of the kherson regional council, was also with us. thank you . mr. yuri, who found time for us on sunday and we will continue then we will have an expert. if he is not there, i will answer the questions because i have them here, mr. andriy ryzhenko, a captain of the first rank for those who understand the ground forces i will tell you what it means, colonel, and here is the expert center for defense strategies. andriy, i am glad to see you. thank you, it is time for
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us . let's not let's cool down somehow let's calm down everything will be as the general staff says we believe the general staff we believe the supreme commander-in-chief that is, and your point of view how realistic are these dreams about the beginning of the liberation of crimea i'm not saying anymore i i i understand that there is still a long way to go before yalta, but this is just the beginning , as far as the capabilities of the ukrainian army are concerned. well, i belong to the second category, because i am, as it were, a former military man, and in order to conduct an operation of any kind of operation so it is based on very careful planning and study of the situation, that is, the diameter of one's own forces and the enemy's forces is
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estimated, time is calculated, and options for our enemy's actions are worked out, and in principle, only after that is a decision made, and i think that means, well, first of all, well information about operational issues, this information is of course closed and is owned by the general staff, he owns it, and well, it is absolutely clear, in principle, such a situation existed in kherson, it was only possible to write and indirectly draw some conclusions, what can we say now, well, there is a threat to the russians in crimea and why? because well, i saw a couple of days ago and these news from sevastopol . i myself from sevastopol watch them. i personally saw how aksionov put, well, on his hardware,
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he told his subordinates at the council that we are starting to build fortification structures in crimea, what does this mean, they are assessing this threat from our side, and they are thinking about it, i think it makes sense, because they have ballistic devices and so on, that is, in principle, they are starting to build falsification structures, but they don’t have it turns out with the crimean bridge. they said there 2-3 weeks and everything will be done. but it’s been more than a month, and there they just started changing eyes, how are they there, eyes, eyes, and spans, and spans. and only in that part of the branch of the car which was damaged a the other one, which was supposedly intact, and they even started something there on the first day, now they decided to change everything, and they have not yet started the railway track, which was damaged, and now
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it all looks like it is dragging on, but i want to remind you that now there is a storm in the crimea and ours is here, but the ferry crossing doesn’t work very stably, but that route is the corridor, which is now offered to everyone , and so on, and so on, and so on, russian drivers don’t really want to drive along this corridor, and this is the information in corridor through mariupol there along along and the captured corridor yes yes that 's all it says that well, somehow, well, in principle, they assess the threat from the side of the armed forces of ukraine, we know, nevertheless, they keep in the kherson direction now the largest group , they keep 45-49 battalion tactical groups this is more than in zaporizhzhia. this is
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more than in donetsk. it's not their business, but their weapons are different and so on, although these units are definitely better prepared than there, mobilized in the eyes of the troops that also poured in there in such an avalanche, that means this mass of green, these little men, but period and tell me, you just slandered what you look closely at sevastopol. i also love this city very much. and i want to ask, in your opinion, what is the mood in sevastopol when sevastopol was like this? it is winter and there are no tourists and you can talk to crimean residents, i said then that in sevastopol, crimea is different, well different, if
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the socio-social strata in crimea is crimea, and sevastopol is so strongly pro-russian and it is in sevastopol that this slogan is at least stones now there are no stones from the sky, but there are some roots in the wrong cities, we can now see the mood among the citizens of sevastopol, well, you know , i have contacts, i don't have any contacts left, actually, from what i'm looking at here, on, on, tv channels, and here, you see, there is such a very bright toy being built for putin, that is, these doors. these are the doors. most of the courtyards of the streets of sevastopol were practically frozen there in the 60s and 70s. there, there is the old asphalt there . problems with the removal of garbage and so on, but they are building this t-highway of taurida from this one with this
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yalta ring road, which they launched in order to be such a parade apparatus for ostentatiousness, this is the road along the southern bank of the wing. well, you really understand. i remember i drive from sevastopol to the beginning of the 90s and i will tell you that, in principle, when there was such a very serious crisis after the collapse of the soviet union, the people, in principle, had a rather positive attitude towards the fact that crimea automatically became a part of independent ukraine, i did not i remember that there were some protests or something like that. and by the way, i can say that when the ministry of defense of ukraine was formed, the conditions of service were even better than in the black sea fleet of the russian federation, and i remember when, during the crisis, this e- e ships of the black sea fleet, they went to sea 1 2 3 days
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a year, you see, there were no more funds and i remember this. well, in terms of food, the situation was better because i remember that even well, a list from st. petersburg came there, this one was a direct train to sevastopol and they brought food from here because it was served here from ukraine, it was here more or less and st. petersburg well, who does not remember in the early 90s there was a card system like in block leningrad, that's how it was, that's the usual trivial marina the sausage was not sold when it was opened that's why it was the situation now, you see , now it is written so that being a russian is prestigious, it's such a developed state, it's very cool there, and so on. and so it is in sevastopol, and there are many people who were discharged from military service in the soviet union and in russia and ukraine for some reason
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supported this agreement and allowed the russians to stay in sevastopol, by the way, they were such a very serious fifth column in the 14th year, but now, well, there are beatings, it determines the consciousness there, how is karma, yes, and this is possible see because well and the russians themselves, they are used to these advantages of this modern world with technologies and so on. and all this is being closed. well, really, they are somehow asking to close it with the ideological influence of these memorable and different ones. i watched it recently. there was something, some kind of 225th anniversary of the anniversary of the birthday of admiral lazarev so there they talked about him for a very long time, they built a monument, well, t-225 years, and there it is, well, all the eyes, well
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, it's so fresh, it's a fresh holiday - this is it , may 9, victory day here and everything else goes there 100-200 years later, that's it, that's it. well, it doesn't work a little bit. because they say there are problems of this nature, let's say the bottom layer, the pyramids, the oil. yes, when there is a need for this, this is the primary need, and so on. when you have to look at this pyramid, it is supposed to be the top there, everything is okay, yes, self-realization, there are spiritual values, and when there is no foundation, then problems begin here, and the foundation he ran away from in sevastopol and in crimea, too, that's why it is the way it is, and here it is especially one more question maybe the last eh look eh among the ideas
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expressed in the discussions about the end of the war eh post military design if both political and geographical there is such one of the ideas - this is the demilitarization of sevastopol, i.e. simply freeing sevastopol from all russian and ukrainian troops so that it is not already a base, because it has been 200 years. as you just said, everyone comes in and tries to place weapons there. and what about me? who also lived in sevastopol for not very long. these are wonderful places for recreation. these are beautiful eyes. the fjords are it's beautiful, it's all very beautiful, but it's all covered up, we just saw the footage of boats boats boats boats boats mostly military maybe it's been enough for 200 or so years the troops have been standing there maybe they can make a demilitarized zone i just
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don't know i'm not an expert here tell me what you think mr. andriy well, well, it has already been partially dismantled. it itself was demilitarized. because in soviet times there were ah, well, probably 400 ships and hundreds of boats, now there are only a few boats of these ships, an order of magnitude less, maybe 40-50. but well, i agree with you because, well, we really see only the tip of the iceberg in all these satellite images, because there are everything around the eyes of both of them, there are also many warehouses and fuel and weapons, etc. and in general - yes, indeed , sevastopol has prospects. and we know what 's there. well, i remember how 10 years ago, 15 years ago, it was built , there was a cheese terminal, you can export wheat. well, there
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are such historical places. so-called subtropical climate it allows well very active for people there who has problems with healthy breathing, i think that such a problem can also be the task of protecting maritime boundaries, it will cut off without a permanent base, for example, in sevastopol , although, well, temporarily there for some tasks, it is possible with the arrival of ships because well, you have to understand that if a country has access to the sea, then any small piece of it must be protected, because it will also be exactly what we have now in the northwestern part of the black sea when the russians blocked it at the beginning of the war, in fact well, the entire line of exit to the black sea, then we
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slowly, mainly through diplomacy, tried to open three ports, odesa , black sea pivdenny, now it is possible, mykolaiv will be by the way, mykolaiv is the most our sport in ukraine, it has a multifaceted nature. that is, you see prospects there p andriy, that is, mykolaiv, it is possible to somehow organize the case so that boats can also leave and enter absolutely, well, you know, there, first of all, i, well, there is a sea port, an official sea port that has such a status, and there is a volume of cargo cargo is 40 million tons, if we compare even with odessa, there are 25 in black sea, in black sea, 29 , that is, there is a very serious one, and it is actually the capital, the maritime capital of the agricultural e-e
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. that's absolutely true, that's right, but mykolaiv is a unique place, it's necessary to upgrade all these enterprises and it will be because the climate is very good there and it allows me to build ships practically all year round, just like there in in russia, they build them from may to october, and everything after that, they have such a winter there, the dishes are the same. by the way, it concerns kherson, there are two of them very much, kherson has a turnover of 10 million, this is also enough. i can say that it is the same turnover as in ryky, for example or well o-o-o baltic by party and that’s that ’s that’s that’s about that’s it and that’s that’s how would um it’s very important sevastopol well you know its very serious advantage is that it doesn’t freeze it’s the only port in the north of the black sea the sea that does not
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freeze and here somehow well, i think that it is possible to resolve the issue of not keeping some of them there , but to really demilitarize and to and by the way, this was also discussed. well, i can say years back in the 15th year, when i was looking for this very compromise of withdrawing the russian troops by the 17th year. and then it was already there at first, the russians gave such greetings in such an informal way that we would never go to sevastopol. it was like that too. i also remember. thank you very much. thank you very much. andriy ryzhenko, captain of the first morning reserve in the ukrainian navy, expert of the center of defense strategies was in touch with us . thank you once again, mr. andrii, and i hope we will now
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move on to international affairs. let's move on to international affairs. i would like to, on my own behalf, on behalf of even the ukrainian people, i take on some kind of responsibility as if i were some kind of president or prime minister or chairman of the verkhovna rada, but you simply cannot avoid the fact that russia is a great friend to the ukrainian people, i apologize for washing my mouth with soap , and today banjo biden celebrates his birthday , and we simply cannot help but join all the people of good will in the world who support ukraine and the main helper of ukraine in the fight against russia is undoubtedly the united states, which is led by the american president jobaiden, greetings to him from everyone who has this good will. and we will move on to mr. dmytro shengivskyi, an expert on the nature of questions about the rector of the ukrainian catholic university of the university, the first question, dmytro, thank you for
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have joined us, i hope you can hear us, and so are they mykola, can you hear me well or can you hear me perfectly , everything is fine, then i would like to ask how much do you believe in such a widespread version in the last week that ukraine is being pushed to some more peaceful words, maybe not more peaceful actions, but at least peaceful words about the end of the war, in which diplomatic way do you believe in it or not believe in seeing these opportunities these threats for someone and not seeing please yes, thank you very much for the first question, i'm sorry, you see it everywhere in ukraine they are turning off the lights here in lviv as well. as for your actual question, well, in fact, there are many such
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attempts to introduce negotiations so as to put ukraine and russia at the same negotiating table . there, too, macron also managed to somehow plant a for the purpose of negotiations. another question is that, from the point of view of analysis, what should we talk about ukrainian positions, well, at least those expressed by the government. this is even at the last summit of the group of 20, president zelensky expressed these 10 points important for us, the 10 red lines, so - called there will be negotiations again about the reparations that russia will
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pay us but nevertheless, for this there must be good will of both sides and so far we actually do not see it because beyond all these words russia continues to respond with shelling russia corresponds further esculation the situation and that is enough. everyone understands mr. dmytro, but look. i have such a suspicion. well, it is also speculative and not confirmed. i do not see such efforts on the part of the leaders of western countries to talk about it. let's start negotiations, i see it as a russian narrative , which, by the way, through ukrainian journalists and political commentators, somehow gets into the ukrainian
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field of view, because even that erdogan does not say let's have peace, he says, well, let's think about but he has no direct calls to stop the war, give up crimea, leave donbas and start negotiations, i have not seen such words anywhere, but you they are taken very widely in ukraine and i am beginning to suspect that these are not ukrainian narratives of the west , but rather russian ones, what do you think, mr. dmytro well you absolutely check, that is, the question is, let's stop everything as it is and sit down to this negotiation, and it doesn't sound like that. if any of the ukrainians think somewhere or we will see some such information, then this is a clear throw, as they say if the question is what to look for attempts to clean up around the smaller issues that exist one way or another, the grain deal was a smaller issue now , for example, for money and shelling that are ongoing,
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this is also a smaller issue, so that will later help build bridges, conversations are informal , they continue but again of course, there are no talks about that. that's all, stop talking now, and there are no such compromises. moreover , i will repeatedly emphasize from the side and the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs on the part of the president clear criteria were heard, which, including our partners, also confirmed that there must be a question of a just peace, but the germans finally talked about it , the americans talked about it repeatedly, the european union talked about it before, as long as we see that this line will continue, we write to be completely calm in that question, but there will be an attempt, there will be a couple of attempts dmytro, one more question, more philosophical, philosophical, but look, what do you think now in the
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west, or at least among academic bodies, i am not saying anymore i don't know if this dream has come true or not. what do you think? what do you suspect ? therapy, depriving the economic potential, the military potential, the diplomatic potential, the cultural potential, and so on, is europe and the world maturing, the united states of america, which is just in our common house, in that high-rise building where the republic also lives anna and ukraine and russia, the united states and china,
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somewhere on the third or 18th floor, a bandit has taken up residence and he will not give rest. they understand that this is a danger forever as long as russia exists, please, mr. dmytro , well, first of all, we need to understand what you said, is the country of the west there or europe? they are heterogeneous, so we cannot say even this collective measure what russia is talking about yes, this is a rather famous concept, and that is why it is better to talk about each of the individual countries, and they are also completely heterogeneous. analytical colleges and academic circles that you mentioned, there are more sharper statements from those who understand this clearly.
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but we also see recent articles, for example, in the western analysis of western scientists, well, in the same place, shimer recently published another article in which he further justifies the fact that nato is visible because it was expanding, so the situation is quite different, but if we actually investigate and analyze the political agent, at least what went into the public space, then how can we rely on certain strategic documents, and one of them was actually the national security strategy of the united states published in early october, where it was very clearly stated in it that what's up, russia is a threat that needs to be neutralized. russia needs to be brought to a certain framework in which the world existed. similar thoughts were expressed by the same person. after visiting kyiv, he sat for a while without
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light bomb shelter also mentioned that we had a mistaken assessment of russia and similar statements and even more so similar strategic documents appear even if we go back to this very summit of his group of 20 a-a it was also very big a - and the question is whether there will be a joint statement at the end, since there are very different countries, and in particular there is china and indonesia, which have such a warm attitude towards russia. however, there was no less condemnation and an actual emphasis on the fact that these nuclear blackmails -what escalations have to be terminated, well, another matter is how it will be carried out like this, but this is the yard of clocks on so many platform formats. she explains it very well that after all, votes are reached and after all, politically, governments are beginning to understand what mykola is talking about, but not harshly i would
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not talk about such harshness or unequivocalness see let's talk a little about the people's republic of china, which, in my opinion, is a rather difficult situation because on the one hand it gravitates towards authoritarianism, i say this very gently i use the word weighs, especially lately, after the 20th congress of the communist party of china, it no longer weighed, it is already there absolutely, and they, on the other hand , have a victory or even, i would say more mildly, not the defeat of ukraine in the war with russia if it adds these democratic waves to the world well, there are many points, many muscles, a lot of strength, a lot of energy and then the question arises, well, can't china stand on the side of russia, seeing
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the defeat and realizing that russia is already such a lame duck, as they say, yes, it is no longer a superpower, not a superpower. that's where china and we will go understood that for the first half of the year after the start of russia's war with ukraine, china was moving somewhere close to russia. now we see some kind of drift in the opposite direction or not. it seems to me, dmitry, well, first of all, china is not chinese. there is such a country. by the way, here again i returned to the strategy of the united states states where china is called the only country in the world that is capable of changing the entire global order, not unlike the united states, so china has always been chinese and about chinese, and therefore, most likely , russia was here, so it was enough, and i am up to these it was a convenient partner in such a situation, given
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the anti-western and anti-american rhetoric that china loves so much, and it was such a convenient tool to once again focus the attention of the united states and the europeans on the russian-ukrainian war, and meanwhile push their business interests including breaking the general rules of power, but there is another aspect that is important. of course , they understand that the eyes of the brewery are what putin was before the full-scale invasion. announced and all the rhetoric in three days, we will take ukraine, we will take kyiv, and they understand that this is true, despite this support and even despite unofficial support, yes. dual- purpose devices, yes, or some missiles, but judging by his
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behavior there between before north korea and other authoritarian regimes, this may well be the case. nevertheless, there is one important fact that china still publicly and officially through its companies and these companies, one way or another, their actions are approved by the chinese authorities, so they do not come to this support and they understand very well that their foreign trade is a measure. that all the sanctions hit the chinese will be a great moment of this great threat to china itself, so i would not say that it was some kind of diversion from russia, but on the other hand, some kind of enchantment there or playing along is too great which would directly harm the interests china was harmed by their economy, which is not the best at the moment

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