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але дальше будет будет можность уже нельзя быть серим beautiful words thank you very much gelevasan zapugyn political scientist we talked about what is happening in this so that i don't make mistakes in central asia and the caucasus because it's all me i correct mistakes glory to the heroes of ukraine well, i am starting to answer a variety of questions. so, mr. viktor writes to me, writes, writes, writes, and we now read more and more often that they say that the so-called russian troops who were in the kherson region are being transferred to the east, then why don't the armed forces of ukraine liberate the entire kherson region if combat-capable units of the russian federation were transferred from there. i want to switch to the russian language
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. such a possibility . and i want to tell you that he sees and suspects and sees better than you and i, and tens and hundreds of thousands of people, maybe even millions, because the americans also help him to contemplate everything from space, so if he doesn't do it, then he knows why he doesn't do it. i believe that this is the last , in general, the last step to prompt or discuss the brilliant actions of the ukrainian military and military-political leadership in today's conditions, moreover, if in politics i can still find some, as they say again in the russian language, rudeness, since i
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do not understand anything in military specifics at all, i am generally silent here and only listen and ask listen and ask and do not affirm anything because i am not an expert that's why i think people there know how many weapons they have. when russia is rushing, where can we advance, where can we retreat, what intelligence can there be, what are the plans of the russians, how many troops should be detained there, we should not forget that there are also ukrainian troops. there were many, but we do not know how many we have the ukrainian authorities do not talk about this, but they may be doing it correctly, but according to the calculations of independent experts , there were 70-90 thousand ukrainians in the kherson region, where they were transferred, we do not know, and it is possible we don't need to know what you think about the effectiveness of the russian opposition. yesterday in your
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program, ponomariov waved his fists and promised that putin would show some kind of movie. he prophesied to putin's power judge, why in eight years the oppositionists there did not manage to form a powerful political force or at least the mass media is capable of conveying the truth . to pleps, isn't it a game? it's in the opposition in collusion with putin. whom will the opposition grow up? you believe. whom you don't? well, you know. i always quote it here. it's a pretend phrase. i guess he didn't say that. sigmund freud. maybe he didn't say, but he is credited with the fact that sometimes bananas and just bananas exist, you know in russian , the oppositionists greatly exaggerate ms. sofia's tricks, the intellectual abilities of the russians, what about the russian kremlin, what is he so sophisticated over there, that's ponomaryov, let him say that, let him
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do that, we see the sophistication of the russians on the fronts we see i just yesterday evening or this morning already forgot i read there like something there something english something english that up to 600 russian deeply conspiratorial spies in the last years were sent back to moscow, this is such a great force, and the espionage one. we remember that immediately all russian efforts were revealed in the same britain and poisoning one and two and three and so on, we see russian diplomacy, so we think that there are some wise old men wise people who know that no matter where i would do it, that means, first of all, you don't have to say with your fists and you don't have to, you know, then
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i'll ask you, ms. sofia, what do we think about the ukrainian opposition, the russian opposition couldn't create anything for 8 years, and as far as i i remember the ukrainian opposition from 1991 to 2004 , a streak of 5 years, that is, 13, 14 years, 12 years, it could not do anything, and only victory came when there was a draw in the fourth year . a draw is in favor of the opposition, so let's not throw stones where no one deserves it ponomariov kasparov did ponomariov kasparov what is the name of the one who is sitting navalny and so on, they want to do something, it's like
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a cossack who piled us big, our temporary fellow travelers if they do anything against putin so they help ukraine in this way. maybe by a micron, maybe not by a millimeter. maybe by a milligram, but they help. may god give them health, that's why i always said that it's not necessary to criticize everything in the world of ukrainians, it's because everything is bad except for us, yes, that's why, keep this in mind, it's not worth it it is not worth reporting or surrendering and what do you think about the mass media in the 90s, well, at least in the second half of the 90s in ukraine, they reported the truth here, we had a lot of such mass media, well, you can count more than that on the fingers of one hand i will tell you even worse in the 1990s, literally until the beginning of the 1990s, all of us ukrainian journalists were jealous of russian
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journalists, we were jealous of kyselyov, and so on, we had zerkalo nedeli and public radio under the leadership of sashka kryvenko. from time to time, somewhere on television, one, two, or three people literally made their way there . they allowed themselves. that's all. well, i don't want to offend others. i think there were some local authorities, maybe local television, i can't say here, but in kyiv there were very decent people who said something so loudly and frankly and in moscow everyone was free and we all watched and envied and this lasted from 1991 to 2004. and in the fourth year, the fifth channel appeared. well, it appeared before, but it became so active , and it was the only one he spoke because give me
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some truth well, not at least some, but enough and sharply, but everything else was silent so that there is no need to tell that we are saints and of god and we were born already 40 years old, they went through childbirth for a long time and the russians will go through childbirth even longer next time next week, the european parliament plans to vote on recognizing russia as a state a sponsor of terrorism, what does this give ukraine nothing at all that can be felt right now, there is simply no such thing, it is absent i interpreted it yesterday, today i repeat all all the sanctions as they are imposed on russia and political and diplomatic and financial and energy they are systemic and
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if they are systemic they are for a long time are introduced and are in effect for a long time, they are not introduced today for tomorrow and tomorrow those sanctions that are introduced quickly, as a rule, can be canceled quickly this rain is for a long time, but they begin to act very slowly. it’s not a tummy. on off. it’s the kind of thing that starts for a long time and speeds up, then it starts to act, and then maybe the war will end and then there might be another one. well, there are new people in the kremlin and there will be smiles again . i don't really believe in this, but in 1991, no one believed that russia would start a new war, and the sanctions will
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continue to apply for 5, 10, and maybe 20 years ago. keep this in mind. i don't see any kind of russia now she is in such a state that she will not notice the new sanctions as it is now they say they are introducing sanctions against iran for selling weapons to russia, and iran, russia has not yet reached the state of iran. well, it is bigger, it has something more , it will reach it. and you have already imposed 25 more sanctions, they have been under sanctions for so long that they simply will not notice that there is something else, maybe some individual people will notice against whom the specific sanctions are not directed, this is another matter, maybe in russia some billionaire will feel something, but the average russian will not feel anything. that's how it went. congratulations olga. comment on the statement of trump's son that stop aid to ukraine, do you think that he
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is simply voicing his father's position to throw at the president of the united states, he is still a candidate for the presidential candidates, he is a candidate in the republican party. if he wins the primary , he will then become the official canada of the president, but the road is correct, you said ms. olga means , uh, i want to say something like that again, to quote ivanovych freud’s winter and nada ramanit, it’s just a banana, you don’t have to think that there is some center of power somewhere and there sits such a haughty baidy, don’t you say there's something say and you there says that and you there says that and you there says that, uh, i don't believe all of this, i don't believe at all, all these conspiracy theories. carefully and i'm
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not against it, i'm absolutely not against the checks of the americans. where does the american money go, the american weapons, and so on and so on. i looked under sports somewhere, she gave things like that, so please, let a delegation come and see where the money comes from and where it goes. how much of this money goes to the united states, how much goes to ukraine, how many missiles go out of the united states, and how many come. science to the ukrainian army . i'm not against thistle i have always said that control is needed for absolutely all actions of the government and internally from civil society from oppositions from abroad, there is nothing like that here, but if he really said that it should just be stopped i don't really believe it for one reason, because now
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there is a lot of support for the ukrainian people from the american people, and since these are democratic states, no politician can neglect the people, especially before the elections, i ca n't say, knowing that 60% of the americans support ukraine and says give us weapons let 's help democracy in ukraine we also had such a story because we would have been under the british , then we fought with the british, that is, with the metropolis, we won from the crucians, once from britain and became a great state and therefore ukrainians are understandable to us our history is the same even at this moment when there is democracy and many people most americans say we are for ukraine here some republican says and we are against well then you will lose the election and that will be the end
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if you are against it there is nothing so extraordinary here, that's why they are all careful, they are a plus for ukraine, they are careful when they want to help and a minus, they are careful when they don't want to help, yes, the most striking thing is hungary, it's the magyars, our neighbors, but there are elections they showed that the magyars support orbán, who does what he does. he looked around and said. and the people will replace him. hello, yes. where am i for putin? if he said, i'm for putin. and he's going to disperse, then you won't be the prime minister. sorry, sorry, that's it . that's why i don't believe that they really want to stop supporting ukrainians, well, in general, now. since we are all sick, we are not healthy in war. when there is a war, everyone is sick, even those who went to europe. they think about ukraine every day, think about what is
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happening there, too. sick because we are all sick it seems to us that they should be 100% for us. not for 90 and 70, but for 100, that is, america found out about the war on february 24 and on the 25th - all american weapons, without exception, went to ukraine to help, simply all 100%. forgot about themselves forgot about the fact that they also have some interests in the world no everything went here that will never happen yes yes yes yes yes yes it doesn't happen everyone will think about themselves just like every viewer who is sitting now fed up - in front of the computer or tv or wherever he sits , he will first of all think about himself and how to survive to oneself to one's family to one's children to one's wives to one's parents is natural, but natural history is so, should ukraine continue to be an agrarian country, be a breadwinner for poor countries, is it better to focus
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on high technologies, who depends on what products the country will produce, because now everything has to start from scratch nataliya means look at argentina 20 in the 30s of the last century you can even a forty-year-old will not lie no not very well i know that in post-war argentina there were fascists well, the so-called peronists were in power, she was on ninth place in the world, this is a huge agrarian country, and at that time they, as if their elites, made a decision that since we have something to eat and that food can be sold and we can live on it, then we we do not need to develop anything, we will and further a-a agricultural a in the first argument, in meat ukraine, meat is the best, and in argentina, even now , wine is added, beautiful mindosa. all of europe is
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afraid of wine, and so on and so on, that is, there is a lot of grain and sorghum and meat and wine and heaps and heaps everything else is also a very good location warm regions and cool regions, in short, paradise, where is it now with argentina since the 9th, i am not convinced that it is in the first fifty now, i just do not know, maybe it is in the first hundred, but it is very far, precisely because they took a course for the past, if ukraine takes course for the past, it will also be the same as argentina, after some time we have to take a course for the future, are ukrainian elites able to take a course for the future, the question is among ukrainian elites who know what the future is, imagine this
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future, and there are those who believe that the past will be ours the main thing is to feed yourself, and then at least the grass doesn’t grow, that’s why ukraine is definitely the newest, and i’ve talked about it very often with the italians myself. are there people in the pechersky hills who understand and have a blueprint of where to go, what orders to make in universities, higher education institutions, do we need such the number of universities in the university, can they be made five times less, but three times better quality, and if we have it, then we need to direct the finances. if tomorrow we say to ourselves that we are here in antonov together with boeing we will process airplanes not the way we produce 1 2 3 today, but the way boeing produces, if
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boeing behaves and then we definitely need to concentrate a lot of money on those higher national institutions that know aviation, our institute that knows avionics and so on and so on can send students to study abroad and so on and the like. in short, if we are agricultural, we will have no future. this is obvious, and we will not even reach the level of the former soviet republics and former soviet satellites even to bulgaria and romania , it is necessary to keep up with progress, otherwise nothing good will happen. let's move on. oh, victoria wrote. victoria wrote a letter to me. we have an epistolary letter
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with ms. victoria on november 23 and the parliament should consider a resolution on the recognition of russia as a state. tourists were told about it. will the european parliament dare to take such a step, given that it will entail certain consequences , in particular, restrictions on communication, russia is very afraid of restrictions on communication, nothing. she is not afraid, they do not go anywhere with whom they are will communicate unknown russian fsb forbids scientists even to communicate with scientists stamp europe therefore i have a hard time imagining that somehow such consequences we talked about this therefore the european parliament can dare or not dare it won't change anything no one will change uh-uh can we calculate a unanimous vote no, you can't. i'm dreaming. my dream is
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that you will never see unanimous voting around you, even in such critical moments as supporting ukraine, because pluralism must remain because unanimous voting - this is the soviet union - this is cuba this is today's russia and this is north korea this unanimity this is this is harmful to the general direction of the development of humanity there must be different opinions we just talked about america i do not want unanimous support i want overwhelming support yes but if he stands in the senator or congress - a woman or a congressman and says let 's check it. i will also vote for it. if there is an item to check. where does the money go, someone is against. you give uah 1000 to a homeless person on the street who is not provided with
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anything. no, don't give uah 10. 20 can you give? thousand, you understand that he won't return and even squander this money. he won't use it for something positive, maybe he'll just drink on those hryvnias bought to buy vodka for himself, then there's no point in giving him this money, it's unknown, you can burn it in the same way, that's why different people are different different supports, even here we talked about mediators, the magyars say that we are against the 18 billion that the european union wants to give to ukraine. but not from the general budget, but everyone says italy, greece, bulgaria, poland, estonia, britain, britain
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is no longer the european union. i apologize. and so on and so forth, and so on, well, that is, they don't say no, don't give. in general, they say give, give, but it's not cunning , undoubtedly, because it cuts through such the european union with scissors. so, a common european space is an important moment. this is putin's dream, without a doubt, so that it would be possible for putin to negotiate with each country separately, this is his dream. well, you see, we see that hungary is trying to realize this dream so it means to calculate unanimously, won't the meaning of this consideration be lost if there is no unanimity of the europeans well, there will be no unanimity of the europeans well, how can it be well, they also experienced
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fascism, who from the 38th, who from the 39th, someone from the 40th , they survived it and there was one last thing that hitler said and does and that's all and hitler came to france, that means in france he does what hitler said holland does what hitler said belgium does what hitler said poland does what hitler said here is unanimity for you please the soviet union also has unanimity, what the kremlin said is what they do and the poles and estonians, ukrainians and bulgarians and the czech republic and slovakia, all of them and the poles and the chinese at one time were also unanimously in favor of the soviet union at least for a day, so i am very suspicious. i went to the elections in the soviet union, 99.9 unanimously voted for the communist party, for a single block of communists
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, you are non-stop, then it was called that. that’s why i don’t know about pluralism, too much in the stable, if it’s a stable, yes, that’s ok, what is the likely reaction it is expected from the aggressor country that it may respond with a new massive shelling of ukraine and another option mrs. victoria, well, what is the likely reaction expected from ukraine, which is whatever she may not shoot, or she may shoot, she may shoot shells, or she may go on the offensive with missiles, or we may strengthen the defense, we may direct rockets at critical infrastructure or maybe exclusively at
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energy infrastructure maybe at roads maybe at agricultural enterprises we've already been through everything there's nothing to surprise us we're like that oh, yo-mayo, look, and we can expect absolutely everything from a very great calm, for example, we will run out of weapons, or putin will start negotiating with someone, and we need to be a little quieter before he will shoot, as he is already shooting at critical infrastructure in november and october therefore, the introduction of limited prices for russian oil will finally have a significant impact on the finances of the budget components of the kostana garage. and again
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, they can only repeat it for a long time. it will drag on for years and then it will take a long time to retreat, then here is a shorter way, we will see a month or two. i think that there is already a budget deficit in the russian federation, it is already there, they will already start printing huge amounts of money, inflation will be even greater, but here it will be, i think already in january, in the first half of february, we will already talk about it with you, mrs. victoria. when this chain reaction will reach the average russian, i don’t know, we can discuss it in large numbers.
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back and forth and when it reaches you, pupkin and vasya pupkin come in and get used to it. he's not used to the fact that he has 20 types of bread, only three. and now he comes in, not three, but only one, and there's a queue here, you and i have nothing to say we can't, i don't know, i'm just not aware, because what will affect it is obvious, what will affect it very much. it's obvious when it will affect, no one will tell you, except for serhii guriev, a russian expert who works in france, there is aleksashenka, who in america is sonin find these three surnames. they are about a foreigner they will be able to tell you about what is happening with the russian economy, and there is also
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nataliya zubarevich. she is sitting in moscow. she is a professor at the moscow university. she is generally such an apolitical woman, only about the economy, but i listen to her when she goes on the air, she appears less and less often because, mr. mykola, i am talking about a delicate matter, and if we liberate crimea for another 10 years, then we will have the same president for 10 years, because elections cannot be held during a war , and the president declares martial law. well, no. i know, you know, i am not here to discuss the actions of the supreme commander during the war. it is just unpleasant for me. i do not believe in the possibility of usurpation of power even during the war. maidans are still people who are now
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holding weapons in their hands, and you shouldn't joke with such people , that's why you shouldn't believe that zelensky is sitting there, he's so predatory and and and and that's the backbone of the government. crimea for the first time in 10 years. i will not visit it much faster, it will become ukrainian in 10 years, it is possible in full, because i do not rule out negotiations that will lead to the fact that there will be an international administration, but we will talk about this next time, and now anna eva melnyk will talk to you about what she knows much better than i do, and this is called news . congratulations. thank you for your work.
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