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he is in the closest circle of his closest oligarchs, they apparently had to share part of their property, and this will be one of the main tasks for tokaev . of the election law in the constitution, they also maintain full control of the presidential administration by admitting ballots, that is, in fact, to get into the parliament, you need to have a political party, and a political party is not so easy to register in kazakhstan at the moment, i will remind your listeners that there is not a single registered opposition party, all parties represent the government bloc, tell me what we see in the third part of the russian kazakh relationship, it is real, some kind of power, or an attempt to simply balance the situation, or maybe, on the contrary, an attempt to help to russia, so to speak, on the one hand, they will make
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a statement, and on the other hand, they will help bypass the sanctions, which is of course kazakhstan and under tokaivy he stands for a country that helps russia support its economy, i.e. kazakhstan as a member of the eurasian self-community and, having a common market, provides a ride for russian companies, conducts parallel imports so that sanctioned products enter the russian market, and on the other hand, there are obviously certain frictions but the friction caused by a somewhat targeted policy, let's say the device of kazakhstan or the pressure on kazakhstan, how much russia unilaterally realizes its interests and this is clearly visible in the example of how can it block the shipment of kazakh oil to the european market, so these relations are now determined, but political loyalty is political. the proximity of two regimes still keeps kazakhstan still in
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the sphere of influence of russia. for example, you can imagine kazakhstan today as ukraine to yanukovych. it's good to register, think it's a good example, and kazakhstan nazarbayev was then whose ukraine kuchma is not nazarbayev laid the foundations of this to occupy relations convector policy but nakedness shifted to rosinka, only kazakhstan first became a member of the otc and then a member of the euros and now, in order to restore the balance of interests, to bring kazakhstan out of russian influence, in all likelihood, it will be possible to wait for the victory of ukraine and seriously serious the weakening of russia because the current political leadership of kazakhstan does not, by all accounts, have a
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definite clear introduction. it is distributed says sympathy for ukraine sympathy for beauty how they are distributed let's say that in society they can be segmented from the point of view of the social situation of people, it can be technically segmented directly, the majority of the population of kazakhstan supports ukraine, that is, the war ukraine with russia is perceived as also an opportunity for kazakhstan вырубатся из подлияния россии в вторые тех страница е-е territorial telosos that was ее put into question by the russian leadership therefore е-е for many a-а the war in ukraine is perceived as er, if russia could er the winner achieve certain successes in ukraine, then kazakhstan could be next in line. on the other hand, there are naturally
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people who were linked to russian propaganda, and regardless of the fact that there is serious pressure and criticism only of him requests to turn off the russian propaganda channel and its own broadcasting, these worlds are not being undertaken, that is, they are being ignored. in essence, this is the only reason why the majority for ukraine has a small number of people who actively promote naturally, there are those that support russia's aggressive actions. how do you generally perceive the change that occurs if it occurs in the russian population of kazakhstan ? how vulnerable is this population to russian propaganda to a greater degree than the kazakh one? how much is kazakhstan now spreading among russians? with the fact that they understand their future precisely in kazakhstan and not in russia.
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russian-speaking citizen of kazakhstan and called himself without the help of the state simply on his own initiative and to feel himself a citizen of the country and to what extent. that is such a full -fledged and how much in general such sentiments are really spread or are they episodically some things that do not fully capture the entire spectrum of mood among kazakhs there are certain fashions, so to speak, not only caused by the war in ukraine, but also what is the matter of internal processes - this is some kind of new impetus for national construction in kazakhstan, therefore ebnost speaks in the state language in the kazakh language of the onaressky age. and your interlocutor was right. yes, there are many people who did not speak it before and there are no kazakhs. let’s say that the slavs and kazakhs who spoke pokaz to me, they enroll in courses in general, the kazakh language has become the language of politics in
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recent years . unfortunately, it needs to be modernized and therefore , because the state did not pay due attention to it, perhaps here you can draw parallels with the ukrainian language. it was not enough to demand it now. of course, it changes and it also starts to have its own political connotation. i can’t draw real parallels with the ukrainian language, which is a simple reason that you remember very well that even in the late soviet period, the ukrainian language was known in ukraine even by people who did not want to know it. and in kazakhstan, the kazakh language was not known even by the people who wanted to know it. loads are different , that's why i always feared for the fate of the kazakh language because i saw how many of my friends in kazakhstan, who
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were ethnic cossacks, wanted to know the kazakh language in principle, they simply had no real opportunities to learn it in ukraine . it could happen. you could struggle to know the ukrainian language, and there were such people too, but you still had to teach it. very few people could refuse this study even in childhood. it is more difficult. situations, i.e. cossack, that language. he generally chose the program in all schools. even if there is instruction in russian, the problem is that it is poorly implemented by the quarantined state, and of course, the education system does not give the required result, but i return to the political question a-a in general, it is also important to note that after ukraine began to form a certain idea of ​​what a modern ukrainian nation should look like, i think this is also transmitted to kazakhstan, that is
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there is a general understanding that it is necessary to get rid of the legacy of the soviet institutions of power and the toxic legacy and rebuild the country with certain already determined views, precisely in the direction of an open democratic society. relatives, she zarivaev voted today, spoke before the mass media, of course, use the opportunity to distance yourself from the head of the a-a committee who is on trial of national security, karim massimova, his protégé, a close friend, eh, i reminded you that kormyssimov, eh, is accused of state coercion, and apparently he will be the scapegoat for all of this history, with the suppression of protests in invala nazarbayev, now, apparently, they are under protection, that is, the
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agreement which were achieved in january when he handed over the late sovbeza to toka and all the full power of control by the power structures, then nazrabaev received certain guarantees there are opinions in kazakhstan that are shared by many experts that these guarantees are supported directly by vlazimir kuchyna, so even if it is indicative that some assets are transferred to the state for the benefit of the state, as he did recently, he transferred one of his hotels in turkey, in the office of the president's office, we doubt that tokaev will begin a serious investigation of his activities and all the facts of corruption, because nazarbayev and members of his family are with him at a certain moment they controlled up to 60% of the country's economy and these assets are the last day in the hands of the
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son-in-law of nazarbayev, too. here it says that between tokaev and nazarbayev there is no serious conflict yet, there are no serious indicators. and there was some kind of proposal that pressured you. thank you for asking, uh, there was no continuation. i think it was done in order to frighten or because of feelings of insecurity, but my colleagues, journalists, experts, suffered only yesterday uh- eh, before the day of the vote, eh, the egyptian dinar, at night, the police came with sappers, eh, i somehow, because her car or house were mined, that is,
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of course, those people who have a large audience, who are more critical in relation to only their ego constant pressure in any case, i wish you good luck and wait for the moment when the authorities will not be able to search for free opinion, put some suggestions, everything will be fixed. - the second person cannot change the country in post-vis countries. thank you for your luck, we had kazakhstani political scientist dima shaldzhanov as a guest in kazakhstan. as you know, it is going on now, the extraordinary presidential elections of the country are already ending, elections that, uh, hardly anything change because these are such declarative elections , elections without real competition, and i have to say that these elections, friends, demonstrate how
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ukraine is different and has always been different from other former soviet republics, many and of course there have always been countries in which there was a change of government, but you can literally count them on your fingers, and it is georgia, probably moldova , armenia, and that's the end of the list, but the situation is related to the fact that what we see in kazakhstan is typical of such a soviet absolutely the approach to the elections of the head of state when everyone just comes to agree with the very fact that the situation will be as it is , that it is necessary to simply give the citizens the opportunity to
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support the person who has already been essentially appointed as the winner of those elections and so it is always elections were held in the russian federation and they are held in kazakhstan in most countries of central asia. by the way, with the exception of kyrgyzstan, i did not mention it, but this is a rather important point that should also be mentioned in this situation so, i will answer the questions that are already available. hungary declares that it does not support the necessary changes for the preparation of the aid package for ukraine for 2023 from the european union, or can it really block such decisions? another country in the european union can block any decision in the european council adopted by consensus, which if any country
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refuses to approve any decision, this decision is not adopted, so hungary has all the possibilities in order to block such decisions but you must understand how the mechanism of the european union works, it is not at all the way it seems to you that they just blocked it and that's it no hungary itself is interested in certain decisions of the european union in relation to itself if there are hungary will block some the decision of the european union may mean that the european union will block certain decisions related to hungary, and hungary has many decisions of the european union that are related to its interests, so it is obvious that viktor roman will try to exchange this decision for some other and that is why it is quite important. dear mr. vitaly, everything is clear with the current generation of fsb-
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shniks . and what about the new generation? 20-30 will come to power, then they will leave us alone, this is possible. of course, the new generation of fsb officers may have different priorities. but why do you think that russia will be in power all its life? the federal security service of russia federation. i believe that if, in principle, the federal security service of the russian federation remains a system-forming organization in the russian federation, the question is not how much will be needed or not needed. ukraine is definitely the people who in 20-30 years will exercise power in russia. if ukraine is not by then integrated into russia, and i hope that this will not happen. they will not treat ukraine as a part of russia, but they may simply need wars for the sake of maintaining this very authoritarian structure, the regime in order for ukraine to feel safe, in principle, social changes are needed in the russian federation how
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realistic are these changes? from this point of view that the ukrainian belarusian lands, and in general the territory of the former soviet union is russia , historically russia, and this is what should first of all change in the public perception of the world is that they will not consider russia to be ukraine or belarus until recently russia was considered half of poland and russian propagandists at the beginning of the 20th century were happy to convince that all slavs are one people, that poles are different from e-e russians, and russians then considered great russians and little russian belarusians only because that they are catholics. these are just such intrigues of the west that simply turned part of this single people into catholics in order to prevent
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them from being in a single state with the russians. now ukrainians are called a polish invention . to call a ukrainian fiction, conditionally speaking, some peoples of the russian federation who will want more sovereignty either within russia or outside of it, this is just such a process is absolutely normal for the degradation of the collapse of any continental empire, but as we can see, russia, the continental empire, turned out to be much more resistant to external shocks than any other continental empire in europe, it is obvious that the victory of the soviet union together with the countries of democracy in the second world war was a sign of this. the resistance of the russian continental empire to changes gives the russian people the opportunity to hope that all the territories that were separated from the russian federation in 1991 will return, even if
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the population that lives there has to be expelled from these territories. and here we are now we see some desire of the russian federation to expel the population by destroying the infrastructure in the territory that russia wants to seize. good day. why even despite the full-scale invasion of 1000 deaths and destroyed houses, there are many ukrainians who still continue to consume russian content in the ninth year of the war, for example, russian songs keep this music trend quite a trend in ukraine, how to reach these people i think you should realize that people have different identities in uh i would say such transfer states as ukraine, and this identity, of course, for a person, even if he has some political beliefs , dictates a cultural approach to the world that may seem foreign to you and to your loved ones for this entire community in which you live, and you must be soberly aware of this, because otherwise, during the upcoming presidential or parliamentary elections,
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you simply will not be able to understand why a huge number of your compatriots vote this way and not that way, and why there is a dream about that country that seems real to you in the fog of war, it will remain an unfulfilled dream for the rest of your life, maybe the life of your children, i hope not your grandchildren, because the process of this change of identity in such countries is difficult, painful, and most importantly what needs to be done during this process of identity change, that it did not turn into a full-scale civil war between people of different identities , what does vladimir putin dream about, because a real civil war in ukraine will certainly give him the opportunity to conquer a large part of the territory of our ice without major problems, so that it is necessary how identity changes in this situation if people are, say, part of the ukrainian world through the correct educational and cultural policy, this will also take ten years through respect for national minorities, there is now a situation where ethnic ukrainians living on
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the territory of the russian federation will finally become russians the benefit of the identity of the people among whom a person lives. with such a, er, i would say er, a complex identity, an internal one close to a neighbor, but the differences between these ethnic russians are still the task of the modern ukrainian state will also remain - it is to preserve their national identity as non-vocist and culturally close to those i would say european ideals for which a large part of the russian intelligentsia , opposed to their own chauvinist regime for centuries, stood for this, the success of the ukrainian cultural and
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civilizational project after our victory, but these are all very difficult, very difficult processes, they will once again lead to difficulties - to serious disappointments in the majority of those who advocate for their quick implementation, especially since there are obvious different stories of misfortune in the regions, and let's say ukraine is made up of regions, most of which have always been for centuries, at least the current generation has survived as part of the russian empire and has been subjected to its absolutely insane pressure. and there are regions that are part of the russian empire i have never been to galicia, and of course it is also a completely different mentality and a not very not very complete understanding of why, literally at a distance of three or four hours of travel, everyone is completely different, do you understand? a collective measure of the true essence of the brutal war in russia against ukraine that the war began in 2014 was for centuries russia has tried in many ways to destroy the statehood
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of ukraine it seems to me that the west does not surrender to war and historical factors, this is not putin’s war, the age-old war of imperial russia against ukraine i i think that the west can understand this, but it has always been like that with all the western states of the western empire, continental and non-continental, they did everything possible to destroy historical and statehood - this those territories that were part of them, this was an absolutely normal way of european development. austria destroyed the statehood of poland and the statehood of italy and the statehood of the czech republic and the statehood of hungary with different paths and the statehood of romania . on our land, the austrians built lviv as an alternative to krakow in poland and chernivtsi as an alternative to suceava in romania as the center of moldova of the moldavian national revival in romania. so all this
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it was and it should have been. i am not talking about these cruel wars that the imperialists waged on other continents. we are now talking about the support that great britain provides to ukraine, but let's not dwell on the colonial wars waged by great britain, cruel and absolutely savage, let's say in india whether in south africa or on other continents, let's remember the long-term wars in which portugal, a freedom-loving country that now helps ukrainians so much and many ukrainians live in portugal, was first in brazil, then already in our modern life in the 20th century in the 70s years in angola, in mozambique, cape verde, everywhere, wars, colonial contingents had authority. it was these commanders who led these wars or wanted to somehow
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resolve the issue of the coexistence of portugal with its colonies, this is absolutely what is happening between russia and ukraine, this is absolutely standard, i would even say not interesting pages of in history, it happened to everyone and europeans always simply drew conclusions from it, and for them, these pages of history are not pages of achievements, pages of shame. and by the way, in north america, everyone is fine understand that colleagues, the english-speaking population of canada expelled the french-speaking population from their lands , this should not be proud of, but ashamed, as i think that this french-speaking population, before that, the indians expelled the indian population of canada from their lands, and i was a winnipeg, seems to be in a museum that was originally planned as a holocaust museum, but then it became obvious that he was driving a large ukrainian community and
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there should be halls dedicated to the holodomor, and then the indian population asked. please tell me if there was such a holocaust in europe, such a holodomor this means that the attitude towards the indian population by those who arrived on the territory of canada is better from a civilizational point of view and we do not need halls that tell about our destruction. there were battles and the extermination of the french, french -speaking civilization here by the english-speaking population who came here and made halls dedicated to this, and this is an absolutely correct approach . i hope that one day there will be such an approach in ukraine, where next to the holodomor, they will remember victims of the holocaust and next to the victims of the holocaust victims of exterminations during the civil war and next to the victims of the civil war victims of the pogroms of the times
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in the russian empire all historical responsibility and tragedy will be rethought by those who want to be a part of european civilization in these bloody lands and the peoples who lived and live here will take on themselves historically responsible for the extermination of their neighbors and only then will they become civilized europeans of the ukrainian people, where the hard way to awareness of one's victories, one's defeats, one's victims and one's misdeeds, and this is absolutely normal if we are talking about european development, and the russians do not want to do anything about this, the focus of the west can be aware of anything, but this is all a reinterpreted past for the west, and for the russian state it is not reinterpreted the future of russia wants to take place precisely through the reproduction of its territorial empire, the return of those
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territories that it considers its own, even at the cost of the destruction of the population, as i have already said, that lives that they live on this land, american general milli considers the liberation of crimea by military methods of ukraine to be highly unlikely, on the other hand, he emphasizes that russia can leave there on its own as a political decision or an act of goodwill. of course, i am not a general, but i think that this is delusional. more competent than you and me and can imagine eh as military methods of solving these problems of the return of the territory of ukraine as well as that what can be the mechanisms of a political solution to the restoration of the territorial integrity of ukraine in the event that real conditions are created for this, but general mili may not think about the situation of a year or two, i keep saying that we should prepare for a long-term exhausting conflict, but to talk about the fact that everything will end in a few months is
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very strange because it does not take into account the real historical goals of the russian federation, which our dear viewer asked about, and these real historical goals include the destruction of ukrainian statehood and the ukrainian people. its territory at any cost to the russian federation at any cost, and this means that the russian federation may explode because it is too large an area, if i were an imperialist i would start with smaller territories and then move on to larger ones but russia went as always in the most reasonable way. she has always behaved like this throughout her history, that is why i believe that in the conditions if the russian federation breaks down economically and here i absolutely agree with general moly, conditions may arise when russia will be forced but it will be back after putin to international law, you know. in the early 1980s , no one imagined that
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russia was a soviet society from afghanistan, and that the soviet union would leave the so -called socialist countries and agree to the unification of germany. this was all an absolute political fiction, even the times of gorbachev. i saw the general secretary of the central committee of the socialist united party of germany on his knees in moscow, who said that the berlin wall will never be destroyed because it is a symbol of stability in europe. literally because a few days after this statement, days from the berlin wall, only a memory remained, so there can be different historical processes, history can drag on and then begin to develop at such an incredible speed that we will not even notice how these changes took place. so i do not think that this is all political fiction but no one said that it would be quick and no one said that it would be easy. in principle, i just think that we all have
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to adjust to the fact that events can develop in such a way that you and i can live in this during the war period of the 19th century and then suddenly . who submitted the question, i will pass the floor. well, dear colleagues, ani is a romelnik who will introduce you to the work of our news for this hour. please, thank you. this issue will begin with operational information from the general staff, stay with us. during the current

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