26 early in the morning at 5 o'clock in the morning the orcs were already an undercurrent, calling and saying you are going yes, i am also going , i say where but without any difference, i want the infantry, i am going to the military commissariat tomorrow, i do not tell you, it is better for me, they came here purposefully because he served here for three years from the 14th year i am told that it will be calmer here as a result of nothing, i am more restless. i am still here after the hospital. and he is there, oleksiy received a battle wound, now he is recovering and recruiting. then they said that his son was wounded serhiy ivchenko , a ukrainian farmer grew vegetables with the help of modern technologies, he grew potatoes, cabbage,

garlic, beets, radishes and everything like that. ukraine will recapture everything and cultivate the land cultivate the land that the fighters of the 53rd brigade rush into battle in the literal sense of being at the front on the line of direct contact with the enemy for most of the soldiers it already an award here, he still deserved to go there, but no one deserves to go there , that's why the guys are rushing there, the album is not just words, it's possible to go and chat with the guys, they can't be part of the crew, we'll go well, guarded , we'll take the shells to the enemy's radio intercepts, the occupying units more and more often they are simply afraid

to enter the open side with the ukrainian military, here the 810th brigade of the sevastopol marines stood against us, they have a detachment of the company, almost in full, refused to fight, fight time now this whole company is sitting in volnovas, in the comments , criminal cases are being processed for them there. well, those who did not want to go to prison went to die in the 14th year, these are the people, this is how it was now, and someone over there captured crimea. who was there in donbas? someone stepped forward, there would be no such thing at all, nothing really happened, the level of our army has increased significantly, and it is not only about the motivation of soldiers and officers. after 2014, the armed forces brigades underwent repeated exercises and training according to nato standards. the difference is that not everything is twisted at a high level.

commanders, that is, each unit can already make its own decisions. i worked completely autonomously , and this and that. do not control the soviet quantity, the quality of their personnel and equipment, they shoot so randomly, we shoot with accuracy, if you take the statistics on all fronts, we release 5,000 shells per day, they release

60-70,000 $ 5,000, and they don’t miss 670, we don’t waste a lot of shells, aiming and hitting accurately . the same armored personnel carrier, the same tank, and it’s been like that since the first days of the war, the war, and here and there, too, we see that foreign partners are helping us and the weapons are gone and the personnel has already grown a lot on its own, people know how to work with tablets and drones, they, well, they want it and this does not give us an advantage either, 100% has to surpass them in connection with intelligence aero intelligence, that is, when there is a battle on the battlefield in us several birds from above they are watching them they are correcting both us and the artillery, the modern philosophy of war is strikingly different from the tactics of the rashists, and they are still used as cannon fodder, and

he will be silent as a whore, then his relatives will suffer, and their children will continue to suffer, and who came in, young guys, they just go out 15 people at a time the field calmly with boxes with backpacks they are walking to our position they don't even know that we are there well there are 15 people left in this field by now the sunflowers are probably already sprouting and in this way they conduct combat reconnaissance similar to the development used in battle even in the years of the second world war, the soviet command identified the enemy's firing positions in this way. it doesn't work like that here, if we advance like this, two hundred and 200 artillery pieces, aviation, must immediately work as a sniper, only in this way, to outwit the enemy, climb into a place where he is not waiting and hit they want to board, they have fakes. we have

an invincible army. they do not show the full facts. on the 20th, the poor marines ran along these reeds. they caught their cookies, especially from the beginning of this full of the invasion of the headquarters of the russian federation, everything fell into place, everything fell into place, the city showed who is who, modern tactics and weapons, war

remains dirty men’s work, the boys are in battles on the front lines for weeks, therefore, a mobile bathhouse for a soldier is holy, here they can finally wash and iron in a human way to get fresh dry clothes and it’s not only about this, but here is an additional movement, entertainment, saw boys, went swimming, vent, very nice, warm water , in general, a class instead of a world of trenches, landings, yes of enemy shelling, the boys briefly get to a place where war does not seem to exist, they cleanse not only the body, but also relieve themselves psychologically, somehow he did well, as at home, he visited the front line, they are waiting for this bathhouse, it is

like an exercise, well, i don’t know, it is a small nirvana, you understand, after the bathhouse, the fighters return to the the guys have washed their fire positions and are ready for god, none of them knows for sure what will happen tomorrow with each soldier personally, who will put his head down and who will remain in the stream, the bloodiest war of the beginning of the xxi century in the midst of and the guys have no doubt that ukraine will defeat another horde of conquerors, it will be defeated and thrown out of our land, but for this we need to do a lot of bloody soldier's work,

congratulations, friends on the air saturday political club anzhelika sazonenko and vitaly portnikov, congratulations on the 269th day of the heroic struggle of the ukrainian people against the russian invaders in this hour we will talk about the progress of the russian-ukrainian war, whether the war will end by spring, as predicted by the ministry of defense, we will also mention the topic of whose missile fell in poland when we find out truth and at the end of this hour, we will talk about what is happening in the united states of america, its internal politics and the results of the last elections, because the republicans have regained control of the

house of representatives. so, our guests are mykhailo prytula, a military expert, a colonel of the security service of ukraine, and serhiy cherevaty, a spokesman for the eastern group of forces. well, let's go. let 's probably start with the interview given by the deputy minister of defense of ukraine serhiy volodymyr gavrylov on e-e tv channel scenics as far as i am concerned i remember he also gave such optimistic forecasts . let's try to talk, mr. mykhailo, the deputy minister of defense says that ukrainian troops can liberate crimea by the end of december this year and even end the impending war by spring. but at the same time, he says that in order for it to really be so such a successful offensive on the crimea needs to change in russia in russia and not in us, so to speak, in russia, in political terms, how realistic is this forecast and if

vlad changes in moscow in december, but uh, well, we we can see that putin is still alive and the struggle for power in russia has only just begun to take place, he has only just begun to take shape as a handsome political leader, he has no political ambitions, he has only just begun to speak with such vivid, pathetic tests, almost as the president of russia it is certain that there should still be competition between borg peak park, even though it is beautiful, i think that they also have certain armed forces. there is also kadyrov, or russia. everything is just beginning, it will not have time to complete this electoral cycle, so to speak, before the new year or can the ukrainian army reach the crimea and enter the crimea before the new year by the end of december, theoretically it can, but under certain conditions, if russia does not

introduce to the south of ukraine all the large number of mobiks that they have demobilized, then of course those people who are there now are demolishing something similar to fodder of the russian federation, which are currently located in the south of the kherson region, they will simply run out of ammunition, food, it will be winter, there will be winter clothes, everything else, because in the development of the forces of ukraine they took over control practically all ways supply and they will have no other choice but to explain to make a gesture and trade wills and simply flee from those territories to the territory of crimea, it is theoretically possible, but we do not understand that putin will defend, he will defend his life first of all because that he understands that a military defeat in ukraine will cost him both his position and his life, and that is why the

military blog that he is counting on, that is, that his story, they will do everything possible to make it disappear, they will most likely abandon it on the territory of a large number of burns, which they are now equipping a little and, repeat , they have about 500,000 in order to prevent certain forces of ukraine from being sent there, so if this happens, if they throw them there, then of course the forces of ukraine will destroy them for a certain time and forward they will not leave until the ptugrupation is destroyed. well , this will also happen in the north of the luhansk region, there is also a probable advance somewhere, and the russians can still go. that is , these are rather long processes that are unlikely will end in december, because putin is throwing away the resources that he has, he has a large amount of infantry, poorly equipped, weakly exposed,

but it is there and a lot of it is dying there for a certain time . that we need an optimum for every mobik, we need a grenade, we need your vision, after all, if there are political changes in the russian federation, then it is clear that the war will absolutely change russian-ukrainian. however, only by military means can we really it is optimistic to say that it will end in the spring, what is possible, it is necessary to specify in the spring of which year, well, in any case, the military defeat of russia in ukraine will lead to political changes, mykhailo , i'm sorry, this is not a question for you, where is mr. serhiy? yes, nothing, i'm sorry. gave such a positive and awning to

our society, it is possible such a ray of hope, and in fact, if we go back a little, when we fought near kyiv and the main goal was to save the capital, no one believed even or not until at the end of faith or thought that there would be street battles, we did not let them into kyiv, they were rejected from the entire northern part of ukraine, then many did not believe that the ukrainian army was capable of a contour offensive in kharkiv in a flash, the kharkiv operation and lymanska proved that we do this even without having a numerical advantage over the enemy uh, just like that, now we destroy the enemy on an industrial scale, which is replenished thanks to mobilization, but i have proper training and no new equipment, many of which we took from him during besides, i don't have the whole picture of the kharkiv lyman operation, as the deputy minister of defense, i can only say one thing that on the eastern front, the armed forces of ukraine are doing everything so that the enemy

is as small as possible every day, unfortunately, this happens at the expense of including our losses, on the contrary from the russians, they hurt us, they are a scar on our hearts, but our soldiers are incredibly motivated, they are much better trained than coordinated. it is necessary to connect more serious analytical structures. please tell me, mr. mykhailo, in principle, if we talk about political aspects, these are also political aspects - these are also advantages . they say to the white house that only ukraine will decide whether to hold talks with russia or not, but these conversations about negotiations, they have become more relevant. it seems to me from the point of view of the speeches of western politicians than it was a few weeks ago before the liberation of kherson, how realistic is it in general and how do we explain the beginning of these talks about possible negotiations let it be on the initiative

of ukraine, because we understand that when he says let them show initiative, it is a signal and not just concentration, the fact is, in fact, such talks are already underway, only they are conducting them in public, it’s just that putin says i am ready for negotiations, let ukraine do anything will obey ukraine says no and i will not concede anything because what should i concede if you are weak you will die soon here and the west demonstrates the position that let's talk me out of it so far you have talked out of it this dialogue is already with schoolchildren, as for putin, it is more necessary now than in ukraine, because for putin it is vital to get some respite, and the armed forces of ukraine are not going to weigh in and demand a public space there. they sent messages about possible bribes. of course, the

west understands this, that is, the managers of the institutions submit to him yes, yes, yes. i am against russia's wandering, but for putin, capitulation is a deadly thing, because then he will lose his power and his life, mr. mykhailo, mr. sergey, i have a more specific question for you about what is happening in donetsk region and president volodymyr zelenskyi. and in principle, we see from the report of the general staff that the most hot are the directions of avdiyiv and bakhmut. the war is there, we are defending ourselves, the enemy conducts several dozen assaults , sometimes per day, and the main achievement is that for more than four months, the armed forces of ukraine in this direction have not allowed him to break through our defenses they provide air to the operational space and do not allow to win at least some kind of victory that

the military and political leadership of russia could sell to its population as an achievement, you remember putin saying that what is the purpose of the sbu , for which they call this operation it seems to be protected. he said that the donbass is so eh, the enemy is suffering huge losses every day on such directions as bakhmut or avdiiv, he is losing up to a company of eh wounded and killed every day, these are huge losses for the war of the 21st century, which completely destroys the myth of the russian army as the second army of the world, what kind of army, what kind of army is modern and what kind of army is capable of such serious operations, you see strategic operations they do not actually conduct, they are concentrated in a few local areas and even there thanks to, as i have already said, the courage , heroism and training of our servicemen,

they can't do anything, if possible, let me clarify because one question still didn't reveal sergius, and the analysts of the american institute for the study of war predicted that the russian the troops will regroup precisely in the donetsk direction and will be strengthened. is this strengthening already or is it in the process? well, i think they may have such plans against, logistically, it is quite difficult from the south, large numbers and, er, equipment to redeploy, for this , er, equipment is needed conditions especially now that it is starting well, it is not starting everything is starting not very favorable weather for this and we are not going to observe it as mere observers so uh passive on the contrary during all the last months we have proven that having mastered the latest technology we can very pinpoint

very successfully, in fact, without loss, to destroy their warehouses with weapons, their logistics centers, their headquarters and their large accumulations of weapons and personnel , therefore, i and all previous experience shows that, as a rule, our planning bodies, our headquarters knew how to anticipate the steps of the russians by one or two steps to be always ahead. i'm sure that this time they won't be able to do something imperceptibly or quickly so that it inflicts immediate and heavy losses to us at the front. the statements of the president of the russian federation, vladimir putin, will not stop the mobilization processes, but to what extent will we be able to monitor the real number of mobilized russians? well, i think that we

need to include this word, well, we should also include the collective measure. i think that all this is monitored quite carefully and punctually, that is, the number of russians who mobilized. can be calculated in many ways, and this includes satellite systems of technical intelligence and agency intelligence and open sources, all of this is monitored and of course, everyone knows, that's why it's supposed to be how much wax there really was, putin refused, well, that's the last figure i heard, it's that he mobilized about 318,000 military personnel now, i.e. written plus the autumn draft. well, we remember that he signed a decree on increasing the number of russian of the army and

it was increased by about 150,000, that is, the combat group, which was the first step, well, here, which went to ukraine, it was somewhere around 200,000 + 150, which he added to the number of 350,000 shock fists and dovbana - to add these interesting people whom we now you are showing on the screen this is prigozhin's army, which already consists of about 23,000 people, which, er, how the number of prisoners of russian er, positional institutions has mixed into the number. thus, i think that the combat fist now from the russian army is forming somewhere in order er plus there are 200-300,000 people. well, what will they have at this time? and how many questions, perhaps, to mr. serhiy, if you can answer such a question, how effective are they, because they are not motivated in

principle to fight, or maybe they do not have the motivation as much patriotic as money and freedom, yes, the group that opposes us in the east is quite segmented, there are some professional armed forces, mechanized units are on certain flanks , like there in the luhansk region, airborne units in the ugledara region, a marine infantry brigade in rome , bakhmut, the main strike force is precisely the chvk wagner and, accordingly, that is, they are not always coordinated with themselves. they have essentially parallel lines of leadership, sometimes and usually their motivation is not high, because they are a goal, but somehow formed in they are very amorous and so, well, it is clear to the dude that they have a business there too well, plus now those who

are in prison, that is, simply do not investigate prisons, they are offered this option to pass military servicemen there, those who are new come, as a rule, they are not well-coordinated they did not complete a normal course of study, they have the least motivation, the city management often puts them in the front benches in order to preserve the more professional staff that they have left, contract workers and officers and those who know how to fight more or less, and these simply they go as if to distract us and open up our new points, therefore, with motivation, of course, it is complicated. and it cannot be compared with ours when we defend our native land and when we are, for example , angry and indignant, seeing some atrocities they committed on our where did they go, which they had previously occupied, and the escape of these prisoners is recorded? are they immediately destroyed on the spot? well, you see a very vivid example of the fact that

they are recorded, that they are a public execution that was broadcast and broadcasted, there is a clear main point the task is to show that this will happen to anyone who will try to escape, moreover, wagner in this famous speech of his in prison, he said this in prison when he spoke to the colony. he also there named a number of factors for which the death penalty, well, it sounds normal just a wild person in a country where the constitution and the law are supposedly still functioning and these things are prohibited, that's what he calls him there, one of the articles for which he said the hare is punishable by death, that's exactly what creates the bugen thank you, gentlemen, thank you very much by adding to our air mykhailo prytula and the military expert colonel of the sbu and serhiy cherevayte, the spokesman of the eastern group of forces, were our guests in this part of our

conversation . this week 's topic is discussed quite a lot and is quite controversial. mikhael marik, founder of the center for research in the modern security environment, author of a scientific monograph on the operation of ukraine, congratulations, mr. mykhailo, good day, good day, so, so, what now you understand this situation from the rocket, you see that in ukraine there is incredible mistrust that this rocket could be a ukrainian missile of the air defense system and not a russian one. it seems to me that this conspiratorial belief of ukrainians will not change their opinion that it was not in any in any case, although it is really not clear to me , why even before the end of the investigation , almost unambiguous conclusions are drawn, eh, first of all, we need to wait until the last investigation is completed and you will be able to talk

about what actually really happened there, well, well, but uh, and first of all, this is the most important thing that needs to be said in any version, whether it was a russian missile, it was fragments of a ukrainian missile, uh, the base, the base itself, if the reason for that is the fact that if the russians had not attacked ukraine, even if they had not fired missiles, there would have been no tragedies at all, and ukrainian or russian rockets are already being studied here, well, this is a secondary question , first of all, it is necessary to clearly understand what is most important here, bina and so closer on the side of russia for the first time. everything so far points to what is probable, what is real, that these were fragments of a ukrainian missile, and we need to prepare for the fact that it could happen. well, this is war, well, it happens in different ways. it is necessary here it is all real here, and let's be honest, just honestly

do it, it is honest to investigate it in poland and the same, well, we think that it could have been simple, but the final conclusions will be clear only after the completion of the investigation. and how interesting in they explain to poland that it was official at first statement about two missiles, fragments of two missiles, and then suddenly the fragments of one missile were found there, because at least as military experts write, if it is even a missile of the ukrainian air defense system, then it was not just in the sky, it means that it was trying to destroy a russian missile. and then where did this russian missile go? well, first of all, i'm not an expert on the process, that is, it is explained in poland like this from a political point of view, we only have a few technical

problems, but i don't think i understood everything the question is, you know, first of all, how would a missile with a full warhead hit it, then the effect would be completely different, so there is an opinion that these are just fragments of the missile, as they hit, and there could also be other coincidences of other circumstances, and then it came to explosions, but this is not the point of ours, first of all, these communications about the fact that there were two rockets appeared only in the media and very briefly, and here i noticed it only together. one rocket, er, but that as and that as he said it could have been simple fragments of the rocket and here the question is just technically to er-er to the experts to all the people who continue the military who will be here to the investigative committee and how

they deal with this, they will know this and here i say it again