tv [untitled] November 21, 2022 8:30am-9:01am EET
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more than fifty hectares of these residents have now been demined, but it is dangerous to move freely in kherson region. there are already cases when local people blew themselves up with explosives. these are traps, first of all , set by the occupying troops. yes, there are cases of deaths of sappers, unfortunately, there are cases of deaths directly of citizens. we constantly emphasize to citizens that it is forbidden to be in the territories directly there, where military actions were watched or where there was an accumulation of troops, the russians, when fleeing from the kherson region, blew up bridges everywhere, scattered anti-tank mines, there are many sappers, that's all are clearing centimeter by centimeter, just like the defense forces of ukraine when they kicked out the occupiers from here vitaly bakumenko oleksiy kutsuk tv channel espresso well, our tr e-e continues andriy savchuk and vasyl zima today works for
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you this morning and serhiy nikitenko joins us kherson journalist serhii do you see us like this, we congratulate you, we know, we remember, we told in history how you, in fact, together with the ukrainian troops, also visited your native kherson region, met friends and relatives, and now already not in kherson, and as far as i understand, it is not in kherson because you sometimes have to leave to work there, let’s say it is very difficult without internet light, but today i looked at such a picture on twitter about what the atb store was like in kherson during the occupation. there are completely empty shelves and what now? finally , these shelves bring in some drinks and snacks. and that's all, that's all, is it true? so , at least the shops and supermarkets are starting to come to life a little. or is there still a very
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difficult situation? well, of course, it will make things a little easier for people, because it worked in atp and atb - it is a symbol of, let's say , ukraine for the entire territories well, joking a little, although there is a lot of truth in this yes , the banks have returned, the same privatbank has returned and well, for the people, it was already evidence that ukraine has returned to kherson and, in principle, kherson is coming to life of course, there are also restrictions on cash withdrawals. there are still a few restrictions on fuel. many gas stations are not working, but some of the networks did not go to their er when the russians started them at the right station. occupation that for her was the most such joy after he saw the ukrainian soldiers go to the gas station and eat a hot dog, that is, for a person it was some kind of a sign of civilization,
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it is clear that there are a lot of problems, especially problems with the fact that there is no electricity, water, no heating, uh, there is shelling today, uh, all night long, the russians shelled and live, living neighborhoods, this is the so-called island microdistrict and a little bit of the shumen microdistrict, uh, industrial zone, supposedly, but very close to people's houses, so far the information compiled from there is no command, but we know that the shelling continued for almost the whole of ugu. if we talk about the occupied territory somewhere in the kherson region, where the enemy still continues to be, or is he, uh, much worse, maybe he is starting to treat the local population, where maybe terror is starting to rob, send me i read that the enemy continues to rob looters, even now you have already actively started to check ukrainian
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schoolchildren, you go from house to house and check whether ukrainian children sometimes participate in online education in ukrainian schools, has that changed the behavior of the enemy in the temporarily occupied territory of the kherson region, it is clear that on the left bank they tightened the nuts as much as possible because the whole uh-uh gang that they call the police moved there, these traitors became collaborators and, in principle, their knowledge and skills, which they honed in skativnyahs uh, in 8 months, they now they are applied to the residents of the left bank of the kherson region, the regime there was a little calmer and in many grom there were no russians at all for a very long time, for half a year, in fact, there were no russians there, sometimes they stopped by once in a while a couple of thousand now of course what is going on there eh let's say terror filtering measures they are looking for partisans gunners impersonate anyone eh their telegram channels are constantly talking about the detention of
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some people there and so on although they show ordinary people well, very a lot of people complain about the fact that searches are being conducted, that various things are taking place. well, let's say, i don't even know how to say that, yes , people are being beaten up, people are being kidnapped. well, you understand that this will continue until they expel the russians for the left-wing terror civilian the population here is nothing new, for sure what they have been doing for centuries is when they play the role of the occupiers and they never play another role, i will still ask sergiy there is well, it is still going on, even euphoria, we literally also turned on yesterday, turned on one of the current
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residents of kherson, who said that this euphoria does not end, that is, people continue to celebrate, continue to go out in the evening, continue to have some concerts, continue to have some kind of joy, well, again, the same thing . happy happy only because ukrainian products appeared among them, there were no standing shelves for months, but they could n't get anything for the people there. it turned out well, too. here, you see, people simply. here, for example, now in atb . already brought quite a lot of products from the mother of the people. look , the boy with the blue-yellow ribbon is showing a sign that everything is okay, well, it's very nice to see everything about how kherson is surviving now, but at the same time , we understand that it will be very difficult in the winter because the russians, leaving, simply destroyed all the main infrastructures, they simply blew up what was destroyed
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so that no one would get to live in klych, and there is already a call from deputy prime minister vereshchuk to leave the city if possible and evacuate for the winter from kherson, which looks like this, well, well a sad conclusion , that is, kherson was released, but people are now recommended to leave it. what do you think about it? people are not going to leave. as far as i know, some of them are not going to leave, of course, but on the contrary, you saw the arrival of that first train the day before yesterday and there were a lot of people coming back from kherson the other way around, uh, a lot of people asking when they can come in, driving cars and returning home, well , it's not only kherson, it's all the occupied settlements where i've been, everywhere they say that people are coming back, even the high pilya that i'm talking about to tell you what is unbearable on the face of the earth, but it is as damaged as possible, even people return there, people say that they are ready to live in basements, but
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in the basements of their houses, they want to go home, so it is clear that it is both dangerous and very it is difficult because the humanitarian situation leaves much to be desired, it is getting cold and it is not known at all whether there will be heating or whether there will be, well, there will be light or gas, so of course people are very much asked not to return for the time being, if possible to go somewhere to spend the winter in other national points. by the way, we yesterday they showed this smiling guy from kherson or cheerful kherson already, even everyone just calls him that guy, what is that guy, what is that, in the first days of release for foreign media, whether for skyns or for signs, i don't remember him told in english that we now have no light , no communication, nothing, but the most important thing is that there are no russians, we are absolutely in conflict, as he said there, we are happy. oh, my father, that they are not there because we are. the main thing is that we have this freedom, he became a
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hero . on a global scale, everyone knows about him the whole world and now they also recognize him on the streets but he didn't even know about it because he still doesn't have the internet and he didn't even discover that he became a star but he became a star so much they preach this story that even solovyov the russian propagandist said that he actually turns out to be an officer of the national guard and who was specially brought in to give fake interviews somewhere in western ukraine or where he came from. this story was told and he laughed a lot. he must have seen everything too, but i'm talking about how people still even they can still stand, even the information is not coming, but there is a video, maybe we will show it now , volunteers have arrived, here are some small ones. i understand that there are some settlements in the kherson region, and there is a pensioner who refused to take money and any help from the russians, and at some point she does not believe that the russians have already arrived. she came out in blue and yellow, everything is happening there, there
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is such a small dialogue, it seems like three days ago , let 's see. it's interesting, she doesn't believe it at first and they say that even this boy who brought something to her at first speaks in russian, he switches to ukrainian so that she believes that it's from ukraine, let's see, ah, it's under control, our friends with under control sent a little money i went with bought and-y ukraine ukraine our our ukraine i i work here but i do it myself i have a pension peas did i bring
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these products from the products and now and this is some money i will bring tomorrow because i don't want to go to the river no no no eto it was collected for you. i will be with you tomorrow. and at the end it says to him glory to ukraine and it is like that somehow it is like that er-er gagatforming is what the english say, that is, it warms the heart - this is a video er-er, how many such stories are there now probably and to what extent people still can't even believe that they were released well it's like the little boy who came to the
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military and said that kozlov chased away some of them, yes, it's about the same, please excuse me, i'll tell you more, yes, people are constantly telling uh, well, such stories, especially in villages, uh, there was no connection, yes, and there are villages. well, the armed forces sneaked up on a person, you might not have even noticed them. yes , some units slipped by and went on. well , they say the same in kherson. by the way, on november 11, many people did not even believe that it was not the armed forces of ukraine. someone said there are mine relatives even saw it from the window and said that most likely the russians are doing such a provocation , they were warned, they took a flag to figure out that we would run out and meet us well, to show our respect, well, of course, well, people were without the internet, without a sudden, they couldn’t help but ask anyone what was happening, and that too well, it was very difficult for people psychologically and it is still psychologically difficult when you call there very often
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people don't ask so what's up there how are things there and you ask me how there is at the front how are our people, well , that is, people are as limited as possible now it's a little easier already her telephone connection, we can at least explain, tell what is happening, yes, well, the russians did it for a reason, their goal was to sow panic, what was it like to sow mistrust, now they will tell, they have already started to tell about the fact that, uh, this is all a production yes that ukraine is not forever in ukraine, kherson is not needed, although anyone who is already in kherson can see that, well, kherson is ukraine as much as possible and everyone was waiting, everyone was waiting, well, those who did not wait, it is clear that they are now sitting in plywood children's camps somewhere in skadovsk and are preparing to winter in under those circumstances, thank you very much, serhiy serhiy nikotenko, a journalist from kherson was in touch with us. now i will try a little to
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take you together in the atmosphere of the world championship, which is ongoing in the boat, you know football, after all, it is a big policy. now i want to show the photo is enervalencia, the striker of the ecuador national team, how did he support ukraine in the spring, why am i showing this photo now, he hasn't done it yet well, but they once again forgot two goals into the goal of the national team, the boat brought his team to victory. together with his wife in the t-shirt of shakhtar donetsk , he supported ukraine in its struggle for freedom and wrote football for mirner valencia, the striker of fenerbahce of istanbul, and the national team on the road and why football is a big politics. i will explain very simply. but to come out on e-e with e-e tapes that support the lgbt community that are prohibited in the boat there they have certain ones and i really expect that someone will come out with the support of ukraine e at this championship and why is the world championship important and football is big politics, because i will give only one example yesterday i already gave it that the german woman who has the most likes on instagram
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in the entire history of this instagram is with him who appeared there a few days ago where cristiano ronaldo and lionel messi in advertising, they are playing chess. well, the whole world is watching football, it is very important that it is on this media. of course, after all, someone also supported ukraine. well, i think that it is really important. we will wait. well, today, too, we already said that today is the day of dignity ukraine celebrates, but today is also the day of armed forces, happy airborne assault troops day, oh my god, what yanukovych used to call the highly mobile airborne troops, just to keep the airborne forces acronym, because they really wanted to stay with the soviets and the russians, that yanukovych. well, a long, long time ago this is completely different. these are maroon berets. these are the airborne assault troops. today we congratulate all the ukrainian paratroopers on their holiday, and in addition, valery zuluzhnyi, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces , also congratulated them.
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ukraine, let's listen to you, you are always the first, where it is most difficult. you went through a special selection and exhausting training, that is why my illite troops and the pride of the nation, hardened by hard battles , betrayed an enemy worthy of being cut down, without exception , all the airborne brigades in the assault troops are legendary. of the military oath and oath of a paratrooper, i bow my head before those whose blood was forever chosen in the color of your berets, i congratulate you on the holiday, i am proud and rely on you, glory is cheap glory to ukraine glory to the heroes, the iron general is what the foreign media call zuluzhnoy because of his attitude. well, i would also like to congratulate the paratroopers. especially since i have friends there on facebook, and they are
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not strangers, but everyone wants to congratulate them, because it really is people who in the most difficult times took on enormous responsibility and did really incredible things and will continue to do them, by the way, we are waiting for you to join us now serhiy zgurets , director of the information and consulting company defense express, why is it important to listen to him because now we see that certain events happened on the front during this last night and there is an advance of the armed forces of ukraine in luhansk oblast, and there were no strikes against the accumulation of enemy forces and assets in luhansk oblast and in the south of our country , night has come again for us well, but you see us, this is it , i already have andrii, this is the third. and it’s so dark with you for the first time. but it’s nothing for you now. it will be restored when there. bots, some are starting to write crimean. the host is sitting in warsaw. of course, it’s good for them here in warsaw, too, there is light in warsaw. how many kilometers are there? by the way, how many kilometers are there already, serhii is
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a hill with us? yes, mr. serhii, what do you see us, you hardly spend the night at least? japanese shadows are not kabuki or kabuki. that’s something else. well, in any case. well, a little bit of kabuke is already coming. all the light is there. sergei is the last report from the calculations of the general staff. they show that at least 8,000 pieces of equipment have been destroyed by the russians since the beginning of the war . and with they have one and a half thousand tanks, and they say that this is 40% of all that the russians had on the move, which are called machine tools. and yuri butusov also writes that according to his assessment , the russians can do a maximum of less than 200 per year to restore. that is, it is a huge loss for er, the russians and even today,
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literally, valeriy said about the spare that how the situation is different. even now in the donbas, where is the largest concentration of russian troops there? on the bakhmut, there is no such advantage in the actual means in the technique of the russians, as it was in the summer. here what, what, how do you comment on these latest data, the latest numbers? well, we are talking about the fact that for almost 9 months of hostilities, the russian army really suffered significant , even by other estimates, colossal losses when we talk about ground-front equipment and e-e aviation and helicopters. that is, this indeed, there are indicators from a third to 40%, according to one or another model, and now, of course, the russian army is trying to bet on the restoration of those models that were not even taken into account before, in particular, there are t-62 tanks, the return of mig-29 fighters to combat personnel, that is, an attempt to get help from belarus by receiving it, that is, in fact, it is
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about the fact that the amount of weapons of the operative is significantly decreasing, but i somehow concluded that i will say everything, yes, even with old stocks, with the intensity of hostilities, as is happening right now the enemy will have enough iron for two military operations per year, and this means that we need to emphasize the transition to conducting military operations using those foreign weapons that are superior in terms of technical indicators they allow us to gain an advantage, as it was first of all on the right bank of the dnieper, and i think that this is a strategy of exhausting and destroying the most key weapons of the enemy and will further ensure the approach of the ukrainian army to victory on the battlefield, but if we allow clarification, what mykhailo podalyak called such estimates yesterday that we
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need 150-200 tanks for victory, i am quoting from memory, about 100 seems to be artillery, plus the system that he said, it seems that there are 50 or 80 conventional aimers, here it is, and it seems to be close 500 beavers would have been unexpected, if it had happened, we would have received it, we saw it and in fact we do not agree with them because we proceed from the estimates made by general zaluzhny, who spoke about what you will give us in the third year to conduct a series of offensive operations, including the crimea, we need to have, relatively speaking, up to ten new combat-capable brigades, 10 new combat-capable brigades actually have a little more weapons, i would say , according to some indicators, an order of magnitude more than what mr. podolyak is saying this morning, by the way on the defenson express website, a material was released that gives estimates of how much weapons we need in accordance with the statement of general convenient and the operation to liberate
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our territory in the next year. so the dynamics should be a little greater. bahmutu, which you mentioned, the guys just yesterday told what happens in the case where the enemy has a little more weapons , e. when we actually carry out an attack with artillery and heimers and airplanes and helicopters, even under these conditions, that is, it is said that we actually have a certain e-e p- to fly even in areas that the enemy considers to be a priority, this is exactly with bakhmut repeating there avdiivka maryivka the areas where the enemy wants to advance our defense line are small, and now, taking into account the release of part of our units after the enemy's expulsion from the right bank of the dnieper, we have a considerable reserve of
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brigades, and now this reserve will deter it is disgusting to cyrilize measures that will be related to the displaced enemy. in particular, i think from luhansk oblast. well, blocking him in the bahmut zone of avdiivka maryanka and blocking mr. serhiy in the zaporozhye direction. and the fact that the armed forces of ukraine are pressing the enemy in luhansk oblast is at least a process again it is said in the report of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine that we are talking about svatovo and crime, and there have been some years going on there, do the authorities have enough forces for the whole of donbas and is it concentrated specifically in the donetsk direction or in the luhansk region, do we have some kind of tactical advantages other types of advantages why why luhansk region is now able to explain the enemy there well, but in donetsk region it is not possible to understand for what reasons about luhansk region if possible more well indeed in luhansk region we are trying to carry out offensive actions and this section even starts higher than
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svatov we there we are trying to block the road there r 06, which is higher than the matchmaker, what is the complication of the matchmaker's supply but everything is fine now there in the area of the matchmaker 's crime and from the ukrainian side, while from the russian side, a significant number of personnel has been pulled up and techniques, including russian and mob laws and special operations forces there, the situation there is so tense, but there we are carrying out offensive actions for several days in view of the weather conditions there, where the dynamics of e-e have stopped now, i think that there will be a little on drier or it will be possible to act more actively according to the calculation of er hmm our capabilities, then there may be a dynamic that was already more expensive today was demonstrated there and by the general staff when it was said that there is an impression of an enemy column there there in the luhansk region, this is where the enemy
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is trying to form reserves and then throw them at beliohirivka in order to divert our attention from the hostilities near the crimea, because the crimea is there, blessedly, at a very small distance. and here we are trying to advance on the crimea at this time, the enemy will go to the reserves to break through to the bilogerka, there is just such a tie, well, one of the important knots is about that at the tactical level, but breaking through is just a criminal matchmaker allows us to do this tactically , and then translate the successes into operational strategic ones, but luhansk region is an important but dangerous direction. we understand that by breaking into this zone, we are approaching the russian border, where the enemy can accumulate forces and operate from his own territory against our troops. therefore, we must clearly understand the presence of our forces and reserves in order to carry out offensive actions. precisely in luhansk region, although there is really an extremely interesting section of the front , yes, and armor, i will also ask again, returning
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to this topic, about your estimates, er, how much should it be we need for these ten new brigades to create a powerful offensive. that's why you even give such a story. what, for example, is the number of tanks that we need, this is, for example, all the tanks that i will be in the field at the moment, so at the expense of what are we getting? for example, there are 500-600 tanks, thousands of bmps there 700 artillery systems, where can we get them? will they be given to us now , in fact, when we talk about tanks with uh, compared to europe, then europe was actually not a bad fighter with which to prepare for the war, but when we talk about tanks, in particular, we still we remember the reserves of the united states, where the reserves of
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abrams and bradley are now even in storage. of the states can be completely implemented with the coverage of those quantitative indicators that are shown in our material at the time of writing, we expect that 90 t 72 will arrive, which are being modernized for money there in norway, the united states in the czech republic, these will be modern, most modern samples from with the monetization of the t-72, it will be 90 tanks, that’s actually three-tank battalions, and then i think that we will still add, or the understanding of the american side that, after all, nominal bromine equipment is heavy , we really need it. for the successful conduct of offensive operations next year, mr. serhiy, i have also read about the fact that the united states of america will allegedly hand over new petriv systems to poland well, maybe in order to strengthen air defense in connection with the fall of this missile, it is not known as they say in poland it is no longer known because they said that the ukrainian now says that it is already unknown, but there is still
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a hmm, there is hope that it is possible that poland will transfer certain systems to us here, well, not a patriot , but those they have now are on combat duty, so to speak, please the situation there is because there are actually patriots in poland and now it actually seems that germany has declared that it is ready to cover the airspace of poland at the expense of its fighter jets and already its petri, right now, the initiative to create a european anti-missile shield is now acquiring such new breathing, and here the question is that maybe we don’t need to seek to get the samples themselves. and so that part of this shield covers the territory of ukraine, in particular, the western regions of ukraine, that is, part of the territory where actually the potential of nato, poland, germany, which already exists , really worked for ukraine -e the interests of the air defense of ukraine and it will be possible to do it faster than to achieve the patriots
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who are put on combat duty for two to three years, eh, less than 2 minutes remains, i ventured to ask, your analysts were watching journalists, as they took turns carrying the gripen in the hungarian ripen, now in latvia it seems like they are showing themselves, is this still the best option for ukraine in the future, unfortunately, i would like us to give up the illusion about the gripen, because the gripe is cool and functional a small machine, but from the point of view of its combat functionality, it is not enough for the armed forces. i think that a pair of f15s, which can be a flying tank or a flying hamam aim, will actually come to the rescue. yes, this pair is also in the 15th and in the 16th should be the basis of our strategy regarding changes to our capabilities in the air space
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. wild functions that now rely on our air defense in the air space. well , i think we will close this discussion, which endlessly talks about what the gripens can give faster, we will learn faster, we will take off from the swamps and from various sports grounds, i don't know no, gripen is not the best option. thank you very much, serhiy serhii, the mountaineer, was with us at our hour . this is the end of the friendship, and now we are together. with all of ukraine, we want to honor a minute of silence in memory of all those who died in this war. we will honor a minute of silence in memory. ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war
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