for 9 years now, ukrainians have been celebrating the day of dignity and freedom, a holiday in honor of the two revolutions that prevented ukraine from starting a dictatorship and in memory of the people who gave their lives to protect the country's democratic values ​​and european choices. in the 2004 elections, with the support of russia, the then government tried to push viktor yanukovych into the presidency; in response , an indefinite protest action began on independence square in kyiv at that time, the government did not dare to use force and retreated. viktor yushchenko was elected president, and the orange color of his supporters became a symbol of freedom. the events of the revolution of dignity were much more dramatic nine years later. it began as a protest against yanukovych's attempt to refuse to sign the association agreement with the eu and turn the country around towards russia, after the severe

beating of students on the night of november 30, 2014, hundreds of thousands of protesters took to the streets as a result of three months of fierce confrontation in more than a hundred people were killed in the center of kyiv and many cities throughout ukraine, eventually yanukovych fled ukraine and russian military aggression began, which on february 24 of this year turned into a full-scale invasion, the day of dignity and freedom is a reminder of the price that ukrainians paid and continue to pay for the right to be free, as well as the evidence of the irreversibility of the european choice of ukraine, they set such a test what do you know about the ukrainian revolutions, i just passed it while i was the story in particular and it goes on ukrainian pravda, such questions are not very simple for example, you know some, but some are simple. what saying belongs to viktor yushchenko and here and there, these hands

have never stolen anything, this head has never deceived a voter, these feet have never become a corrupt path, this heart belongs to ukrainians, well, after all, these years, of course, they have never stolen, well, it is me answered 15-16, you know why a little bit. i missed what happened in luhansk on march 9, 2014. do you remember? because, to be honest, i thought that the separatists had already taken over the sbu, but it turns out that they were dispersed by the participants of the 200th anniversary of taras shevchenko. and they took over the regional administration well, i don't remember such details anymore well, at least 15 16th wrote to me that i either carefully follow politics, was a direct participant in recent events, or for many years i have not been reading ukrainian pravda listen, well, here i am three in one, that's all i do this is certainly not a compliment in the ukrainian truth . volodymyr vyatrovych, a people's deputy of ukraine, is probably already with us, who would definitely answer 16-16, i think. good morning. good morning, volodymyr. congratulations on

the day of dignity. i don't know what's going on here. on this day, i don't know. i don't know. i'm asking what you want to say on this day. i know. we have a certain displayer. i'll say it. i'll wipe it. just before the war, volodymyr vyatrovych and i made such a project. we showed it here, in particular, and at espresso, 10 days of independence are coming, we actually also dedicated one of those days of independence to the events of the orange revolution, the revolution of dignity and even another maidan, we just have two series dedicated to the three maidans, because unfortunately they forget about this in the context of the first maidan of 1990, which was the beginning of this protest format on the maidan, when ukrainians came to the central square , actually occupied the central square, put forward their demands and eventually won, maybe this war will be overshadowed by this maidan, it makes them unimportant, now

everything is completely different, everything i am absolutely convinced that it is not. it seems to me that these maidans are a reference point, at least for our generation of our struggles for independence and freedom. yes, even then we still had a chance to try to win peacefully ways and in principle we managed to win. we managed to essentially get rid of the power of the russians and the politicians who ruled the country ruled the time, who wanted to determine the fate of this country, to curtail democracy, to deploy geopolitical choices. but russia realized that it was losing its own opportunities to have some kind of domestic political influence on ukraine, and began direct aggression that's why we started from the same level. i know what i would like to ask you, mr. volodymyr . we are now talking about dignity, and now it is not that a thousand people on the maidan are defending it by millions people all over the country, but at the same time, there are moments that try to ignore this dignity and at

least become their own dirty, so let's say that they appointed, let's say, some strange head of the state cinema . whether or not they were appointed, says yanushkevich, it is not clear, then shufrych sneaks in again together with surkis. well, they also raised a wave. well, it’s as if he got out of that night. well, how does it happen that the war is two maidans, and still people sneak through for whom no dignity, nothing is a value, how to stand up for yourself and your country in this difficult time and how to fight back from these unworthy people who have no conscience, no honor , nothing at all, please well, how can dignity mean something the revolution of dignity is for those people for whom this is absolutely an episode that did not affect them at best or an episode when they were selected in another way, as is said in the example of nestor ivanovich shufrycha. i think that we have the only chance

to continue our struggle and i found us there we will succeed and we will succeed and we will continue to win . the anniversary of the velvet revolution and one of the theses that sounded from the participants of this revolution, even historians, it's a disappointment that the czechs forgot that such a revolution was at all, what it was for, what was done during this revolution. i'm half joking half-seriously, he told them we cannot forget precisely because we are forced to periodically repeat our personal revolutions, that is why each subsequent generation is somehow involved in some kind of protests that remind us of the previous ones, so there are positives in this, that we are forced to fight, we become stronger and we hold our own in tone and keep our country in tone well

, taras stetskiv has already joined us, he is a political and public figure, a people's deputy of the first fourth and sixth from the first to the fourth and sixth convocation, mr. taras, we also congratulate you and happy day of dignity and freedom. i also congratulate you, mr. taras. can we say that this war is, you know, there is a thesis that until the 14th year of 2014, before the revolution of dignity, ukraine was not an independent state until the end, do you support it? well , this is an important question as for the deputy, including you. well, i believe that this russian-ukrainian war is a continuation of the struggle of the ukrainian nation for its identity, for itself and for the establishment of its own state. in general, i consider the last more than 30 years of modern history of ukraine as stages in independent ukraine from the russian empire starting from 690 with the revolution on granite later through the declaration of independence later

actions ukraine without kuchma then the orange revolution which became a turning point from my point of view the establishment of the ukrainianness of the ukrainian identity later the revolution of dignity which clearly testified the aspirations of the vast majority more two-thirds of ukrainian society to democracy, freedom and belonging to western civilization, and in the end, the war that putin unleashed and what powerlessness and incapacity it is keep ukraine, which is freed from russian influence, asserts itself as an independent and subject state on the geopolitical map of the world, and actually this is an unleashed war. it has shown that the russian political elite has not seen other methods of keeping ukraine in the orbit of its influence. and that is why we are now experiencing, perhaps, the final stage i hope that the victorious stage that will end with our victory

, both this and the end of this war, from my point of view, will put a big and fat point in the question of whether there is ukraine or not, ukraine is and not just ukraine stands firmly and stands firmly on its feet as an independently subject nation as a subject of geopolitics that is independently able to decide its internal politics and be a significant player. i consider it a key player in the entire eurasian space from the point of view of security. after this war, it's okay volodymyr, i would also like to ask: did russia survive the protests of 1991, well, despite the fact that there were a lot of ukrainians there, by the way, and at that time, there were probably more yellow-blue flags in moscow than russian tricolors. national flags when there were protests, but in any case, is modern russia capable of maidans , or do they have some other phenomenon that pushkin probably

correctly described as a riot, senseless, merciless . can ukraine still export, as they say, the maidan to russia, or is it there ? well, do you know how russia and the maidan will push back, they cannot somehow be accepted and implemented. this story, please. i first very briefly answered andriy's question. only now we affirm the independence of the change . that it must be understood that at least in the ukrainian case, independence is not a state, it is a process, and it certainly requires some such constant efforts from us, but it guarantees us moving forward . articles 30 years after the fall of the soviet union, e.e. revealed one very serious failure, which actually stands in the way of its development as a normal democratic state in russia, there were good efforts to somehow overcome the communist past, but russia began to do it, but when it follows that, there was a need to overcome the imperial past here. unfortunately, the russians

simply lacked some courage. just take away people who would openly say yes . the russian federation is for today the empire and we have to pay for our passports in germany and think about how to transform this state. maybe even to reformat the totality of independent national states, to the regret of my politician, who was ready to talk about it, there was no such thing, moreover, russian society itself avoided these discussions, so you are fine understand that now any large-scale protests are aimed at the democratization of russia, they will lead to the reformation of the russian federation from this imperial format and, unfortunately, people who are able to bravely give such an answer and be ready for it now in russia there is practically no, but now we are talking about it and mr. taras says and mr. volodymyr says that in general it is still this struggle for independence, it is a process and the current war - it is possible to say and can it be said that you yourselves are the continuation of that war which was 100

years ago, i absolutely always agree with your thesis. i believe that it is necessary to talk about essentially our century-old war, because this is how our war for independence was addressed with the first attempt to declare this independence at the end of the 17th and the beginning of the 18th years, and right from the very beginning, the only the same enemy that tried against an independent state was russia, regardless of which avatars it used there, whether it was russian imperial or russian bolshevik or then again the allegedly russian federation, but the same enemy is only in us and for that reason, and all the reasons to talk about some single process that lasts more than 100 years. well, i want to remember that tomorrow will be like this, tomorrow will be exactly 101 years, it’s such a three- tragic execution of several hundreds of ukrainian soldiers by the bolsheviks in from the town of bazar in zhytomyr oblast, and i specifically

want to mention this, because on the one hand it emphasizes the cruel, inhuman behavior of the occupiers, which has not changed in 100 years, and on the other hand, it also emphasizes what has changed, because then it happened thanks to and because the local population, even zhytomyrians, are there in fact, zhytomyr peasants did not really support the soldiers of the ukrainian people's republic who fought for independence at that time. this moment is probably completely different and it gives us some hope. indeed, this shooting under the bazaar became such a tragic final event of the ukrainian revolution of the 21st year. in point of fact, in the existence of the short-term existence of the ukrainian state , there are many parallels between the state at that time, its own efforts at that time, and the current ones, but there is a significant difference, two even significant differences, one of them - this is the consolidation of ukrainian society is unbelievably higher now

, the ukrainians' understanding of the need to preserve their ukrainian state and the readiness to fight for it is unbelievably higher, and on the other hand, thank god, the world's attitude towards the ukrainian state is completely different, then there is nothing like this for the current support of the informational, financial, armed after all, ukraine was not small 100 years ago, it seems to me now that i have every reason to be sure that we can end this hundred-year war with a victory over the russian empire i would also like to write a question to mr. mr. taras, you know, it’s just very interesting to hear your opinion. now, if i could say something else. in 2004, when the orange maidan began. well, after that, and the revolution of dignity, you took an active part then, you were one of the field commanders of the maidan at that time, if you were to say what path ukraine will have to take, starting from there, well, it may have started earlier, maybe the action of ukraine without a bush, well, but it was the maidan at that time that the revolution was exactly then, because ukraine without kuchma was not a revolution in this way

it makes sense, if you knew then, they told you what path would have to be taken in order to start from the confrontation with yanukovych and actually reach the confrontation with putin . then maybe it somehow scared you and did you, those people who were next to you, understand at all that it could start with the maidan and end with a great war, well, for me personally, there was never any doubt, uh, i am a historian, i am very well educated i know nature of russian imperialism and what is russia as the one that was under peter i and so and so that became communist and i was brought up in the traditions of the ukrainian liberation movement of the second first and second half of the 20th century in western ukraine and of course i am convinced that we would passed even with a good understanding then in 2004

what should this lead to, of course, then in 2004 there was a different context, a different situation and we were clearly determined to make a mass and customs protest and of course that then nobody then, in general, calls for any violence went against the logic of our victory, but already in 2013, when the situation changed drastically, we understood that nothing would be achieved without forceful pressure on the authorities , and in the fourth year we felt that russia would not leave us just like that in the end, i feel it in the year 91, i will remind you when three days after the declaration of independence , burbulis and yeltsin came to kyiv and immediately began to twist our hands so that we would not leave the soviet union, and even then it was clear that russia will not leave us alone so easily and the two

maidans only showed that the more and the more massive the resistance of ukrainians and the strength of ukrainians in the fight for freedom became, the more putin became more aggressive, and this was clear already at the first maidan, not even in the fourth year, in the 14th year it was already clear that putin would intervene in the situation and intervene by force, and in this case i simply think that the majority of ukrainian society, having a desire to avoid such a denouement that we have now, however, i believe that domestic ukrainian society at this stage was already ready for the most acute confrontation with the russian aggressor, well, and finally, i will also ask your opinion whether ukraine could have avoided this war after all, if fatal mistakes were made that should be reminded today e there and blamed on the leaders of

e- what kind of country got there in 1989, 1990, 1991, for example, it always infuriates me that kuchma, a ukrainian, was considered the best president before the war. those 55, just remember that these are probably the same missiles that we gave in exchange for a discount on gas in 1996 under kuchma. it seems to me that this war was inevitable, and taras said about it. this story, but probably could have done better to prepare, this is the most important thing, what is worth understanding, what is worth remembering, salt and save as a parable - this is what should have been our slogan for 30 years and at least i hope that what will become the slogan now, mr. taras, did you want to ask something well, i also started the war was inevitable you know here history really does not have this conditional way, but

if you think about it, the only chance we had to avoid this war was only in the early 90s after the declaration of independence, if we, like poland , czech republic, hungary, were accepted into nato, but then the west did not consider ukraine a part of its civilizational war, it had on this basis. let's be frank . i just said. when it was possible to avoid, you understand , and this war was inevitable in that case. to a public figure, a people's deputy of ukraine 1-4 and the sixth convocation, i wish you a good day, take care of yourself, i still know this, andriy remembers when we voted, let's say, for an action plan regarding whether to propose an action plan for nato membership in ukraine and then for yes and yes and then remember i'm going to beat them,

let's say they voted against if they were still their homeland then, because i don't remember it. it's so simple, you know, because back then yulia volodymyrivna was driving and smiling there, making some flirtatious physiognomy to putin there , or if that happened, well, in the 90s for the first time from the 91st century we still had the third nuclear potential in the world, then in 1994 it was given for 300 million dollars, we actually gave it later well, and then we had to, well, right away, you know when in europe they say that , well, you know there, but you, but we yes, you have corruption. listen, to be honest. when i see this guy, he is going to sochi now for the russian nuclear energy forum and says that it’s still night, but you have to go to understand. well, listen. well, hungary and the whole of europe were thoroughly comped by putin, this minister from austria, which danced with putin well they were in nato, in europe, everything is fine, but you see, we are corrupt. it seems to me that the issue is not even corruption, we cling so much to this corruption and think that it is the reason

for some reason. well, they did not take it, it is the reason. i was in a different place, you know, but today, just a few days ago, i read a poem by a famous lithuanian poet, and he is actually what is there, what is the story, the story is that for the majority of lithuanians, he writes about it, they feel themselves. for 12 years, brezhnei was the general secretary. he he watches tv by chance and sees how aba are making their way there. he accidentally caught the signal of swedish tv and he says, i am just a small burned-out, sad child on the other side of the baltic in an occupied in a small country it was obvious even to 12-year-old children that they are an occupied small country for the majority among us, unfortunately, we did not feel like a small occupied country as we did when we were under brezhnev under gorbachev and that is why we had kravchuk and that is why we were losing this time, it could not be otherwise although when i was a child, i used to glue these posters of chornovola , i participated in the elections, i was illegal, i didn't vote back then, but i took an active part in, so to speak, listen to the agitation of the knowledge that it

invites sorrow. unhappy in some 92nd year, he said because there will be a war with russia, which and who else is a little abnormal well, it is so difficult to live with such knowledge well, but we live like this in our place, the plot andriy will tell us about what we will show there, we will tell you now that the armed forces ukraine succeeded in liberating the right bank, you know about it, the russians escaped and took a position on the left bank. well, what will happen next? well, there may be the most active battles, which may be dangerous because of iran, which are connected. khrystyna parubiy sorted through the shelves. right bank ukraine is the result of a four-month ukrainian military operation, according to the calculations of military experts, the ukrainians managed to push back 20,000 russians who were initially under the pressure of artillery systems and then, under the threat of an offensive, fled to the left bank of the dnieper. therefore, the ukrainians managed to

liberate the only regional center that russia occupied after february 24 of this year. what will happen next after the liberation of kherson? in europe, ben-hodges, according to the retired general, the american immersion will now be able to reach the crimea, this will weaken the russian defense and the so-called left wing of the counterattack will be able to liberate melitopol and mariupol by january, specifically melitopol is a key city for the liberation of the south, according to the director of the information consulting firm defense express, serhiy sgorets, the city has all the logistical routes that provide the russian

military on the left bank of the dnieper, as well as between the dnieper and the crimea, and without the liberation of melitopol, the ukrainians will not be able to reach crimea. in fact, we can really smear those actions that took place on the right bank of the dnieper when we, due to fire control, shut down the capabilities of the russians, provided this group with sparks and directly with the melitopol zone, this is a logical step, but we understand that the enemy does the same, understands this risk, and now part of the russian troops is shifting precisely to the strengthening of the zaporizhia direction and on the strengthening of melitopol, and this is too linear. the path that we understand the prospects of this direction, the enemy understands the general staff came up with some more cunning ways to drive the enemy into a trap but the experts of the institute for the study of war believe that after the liberation of kherson, hostilities will intensify on

donetsk region, in particular in the bakhmut region. and according to ukrainian military experts , the russian army needs active combat operations in donetsk region in order to show at least some victories in this war. serhiy sgorets believes that the russian federation will take all measures to reach the borders of the donetsk region, in particular, to conduct active combat operations around pavlivka . to the coal dealer, because when the difficulties of the russian troops due to the cream, they will need to look for new ways of providing on the left bank of the dnieper, and they are located in the rear of pavlivka , it is quite difficult to evaluate the russians because these political approaches that we need victory at any cost against the background of their collapse on the right bank will just provoke a number of inadequate children, that is, a significant number of forces that rush in the direction of ugledara and bakhmut, regardless of losses, this will just cause possible individual tactical successes with squeezing our defense, but i repeat, in fact, these pressures in our country

can be compensated for by our own forces, because we have released a significant number of forces on the right bank, which are in a much better condition and in fact, these forces, which have been keeping the russian group surrounded by the russian group, have been told that they can intensify our actions in the bakham region after the escape from the right bank of the dnieper. the kremlin announced that they want peace talks with ukraine, and international and ukrainian experts are convinced that russia is asking for a pause in order to regain strength. after the defeats in ukraine, the ukrainian army is now, as the brave say, that is, it now has the momentum associated with victories and actually, the enemy is turning away and the enemy is now too demoralized and actually at this moment an important moment is better on the shoulders of the enemy to go into those areas that he controls, that is, now we cannot make stops, no matter how difficult it was for us. because at this time the enemy is even more difficult, and this means that we can catch up with him there and on the left

bank just at t what does the separate combat operations there in the area of ​​the kinbursk kosym say? now we have to use both the autumn and winter periods in order to push the enemy from all directions as much as possible, to force ukraine to negotiate. the russian federation is also trying, through missile attacks on objects of critical infrastructure this statement was made by the press secretary of vladimir putin, dmytro piskov, who said that this is the consequence of the actions of the authorities, who refuse to negotiate, however, after the last attack, part of the rocket ended up on the territory of poland, so our neighbors began to talk. isn't it time to close the sky over ukraine in conversations between journalists and experts ask questions about whether to close the sky over ukraine, i do not have official information from the government, from any committee commissions, but also many people in poland, thanks to the question whether to close the sky over ukraine, to close the sky over ukraine, the ukrainian

authorities and the military are asking that since the beginning of the full-scale russian invasion, this topic has become relevant, especially against the background of conversations that iran may start supplying russia with ballistic missiles with a range of 300 and 700 km. according to the spokesman of the air force command of the armed forces and yuriy ignat, in order to fight ballistics, you need a powerful anti-rocket defense system, which ukraine does not have , the pro system is not just some one installation, it is a global system, it is an umbrella under which it hides europe or the umbrella under which north america is hiding, canada and the united states, which organized a single global system about with radar long-range detection means with means of tpo means about that and a single system of anti-missile weapons, so there are means in the world that can

shoot down ballistics, but they cannot do it with 100% if we are talking about such ballistic missiles that iran has, if they will be used, well, more in such a massive way, well, how can we effectively oppose them, he is like destroy them where they are launched from, experts say more than 200,000 mobilized are waiting for equipment to prepare them, it may take several months, so ukraine should make the most of the autumn-winter period, because in the spring we can expect a new russian offensive - experts say it could be belarus or the direction of sumy zaporizhzhia, but for this russia will need even more forces than at the beginning of the winter invasion, at the same time the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhny emphasized that ukraine will not accept any compromises from the russian

federation regarding the end of the war, one simple condition is that russia must leave this territory of ukraine khrystyna parubiy nazar melnyk tv channel espresso well, we saw a little analysis from khrystyna parubiy, and let me remind you that ours is on this by the way, one is already coming to an end but we will see each other after the release of the news and already now i will pass the word to angelica to seasons so what kind of verb are you thank you colleagues today ukraine celebrates the day of dignity and freedom and right in the release we will listen to the greetings of the president of ukraine of volodymyr zelenskyi, which is extremely sensual this year, and we will find out what events will be held in the capital on the occasion of the holiday