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here are the statements of macron schultz after the liberation of kherson, the understanding comes that it is better to survive three months of severe winter than to live 70 years of winter under the control of an authoritarian regime or 70 years to live another 70 years to live in the conditions of the cold war winter when you depend on which leg you stand on yes, a dictator in a neighboring country with nuclear weapons, and whether he wants to destroy you one evening or morning, or attempts to blackmail you with this destruction and demand some kind of preferential conditions for himself, europe is coming to understand that it is better for these three months to postpone than the next decades to live in constant fear well look i wasn't going to ask you this question but you mentioned the president of france emmanuel macron and the chancellor of germany olef scholz both said again in an interview last week that they whoever said what and
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they continue, they are going to continue talking and calling and calling putin. what do you think? well, why? well, they still see the futility of these efforts, why these statements, again, this is also partly an internal political attitude, that is, they show that they pursue an independent policy from the united states, let's not forget that in germany and france too, there is strong anti-american sentiment in all parties, and therefore the leaders of these countries need to show that they are not in a confrontation with russia because of the dictates of the united states states. this opinion is often imposed because national interests demand it and, accordingly, they also try to conduct politics when, on the one hand, they support ukraine, and on the other hand, they demonstrate a desire to avoid direct confrontation with russia and this is only possible through negotiations, well, let's see, let's see what will prevail, it
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seems to me that as western aid to ukraine increases, the opportunities and the kremlin's willingness to talk with western leaders are decreasing, and you know, you say that the kremlin's willingness to talk is decreasing, yes, that is the kremlin also sees that it is being dragged into a long-term conflict, which is how the kremlin sees that they want to strangle them over these economic sanctions with this long-term war and win in the long run, because after all, in russia there is an understanding that europe is more powerful economically, more powerful than russia . it can withstand this pressure, it has already withstood it, it has pumped enough gas and will give up russian energy carriers, so it seems to me that this is simply, as they say in america, a lip service, that is, it is simply a tribute to a certain fashion that we are ready to talk to putin but the ball, neopolia will want to talk to us. okay, it won't. well, then, let
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it feel and let russia feel for the consequences of its actions in ukraine, that is, i think that it is about greater support for ukraine, and this is only certain decoration is diplomatic that we are going to help but we will never give up on russia, well, god forbid it to happen well, mr. peter - the last question for you for today please tell me last week there was also information that the swedish prosecutor's office is completing the investigation a- and the causes of the explosions on two russian lawns , nord stream 1 and nord stream 2, which pass along the bottom of the baltic sea . he prosecutor said that during the investigation explosive remnants were found during the investigation. when do you think
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this investigation will be completed, the culprits will be named. i think the culprits will be named, and you know that the main reason for this is commercial interests, because the pipeline was not built with russian money. it was sold . appropriate loans were taken for the west, and moreover, the value of this pipeline was to be reimbursed due to the sale of gas through this pipeline. when it turns out that russia itself blew it up, believe me, russia will also be held responsible will have to pay for this damage that it caused not only to companies. and this is a big environmental damage , so yes, there are commercial interests, ecological interests, uh, russia - it just won't be given, believe me, do you think russia will pay even if it is called and there are such i'm so sure. well, i think we're here. we have to say, if you want russia to pay you according to the bills, do everything for our victory, and our victory guarantees that russia will sit down at the negotiating table and agree to
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reparations and with all the damage that was given during the war because you have to conduct it was blown up during the war and it was part of this war until later i doubted why i will also conduct my line there thank you mr. peter thank you for thank you for answering my question today as always accurately as always correctly i thank you very much for participating in the program it was petro burkovsky, executive director of the democratic initiatives foundation named after ilko kucheriv well, half of the program has already passed and i am already told that my next guest is already on the phone. but before introducing him, i want to tell you intermediate voting results to report wow, you had something, you are not actively voting, only 126 people pressed the button. so i asked you, ah, whether the european parliament will call russia a sponsor of terrorism, and call it . %
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of those who pressed such a button on youtube believe that the names are 35% still say that they are not named, and your option is four percent options in the comments can be seen well, i am ready to introduce my next guest, this is oleksandr hara expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies mr. oleksandr glory to ukraine glory to the heroes i congratulate you mr. yury thank you for joining me i am waiting for your professional answers and here is the first thing i asked this mr. peter and i will ask you and how would he respond to the question that i asked on youtube, does he accept or not, rather , you are from heaven, in principle, it is not the governments that should take into account, let's say, some consequences and leave room for maneuver, the members of the
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european parliament voted in favor several times harsh resolutions against the russian federation without there are friends of putin, of course there are ridiculous leftists or far-rights who will vote against it, but they are in the minority and certainly against the background of these crimes that are accumulating, which means that with lutsk, an unusual russian federation is accumulating and the main one recently were these massive missile strikes and including this situation with poland, of course, all of this is such a favorable and informative piece of information that can push them to vote, so we understand that this is an appeal only to the governments they can actually ignore this well of course but it's good that there will be such a call i really hope that it will be very, very much i hope we will wait for this wednesday mr. oleksandr let's start with such a-a edition of neosvet three days ago very such well i do
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n't even know what to call her published a provocative article, not a provocative one, but a very funny article in its columns, and in this article, with a reference to one of the russian spies, who was called who called himself the wind of change twitter of changes, so the newsquick publication wrote about the fact that in there is a very strong struggle between putin's entourage and this struggle can even lead to a civil war, i will tell you honestly. personally , this is my personal opinion. i don't really like reading newsweek . sometimes it seems to me that he is involved. it's not true, i wanted to ask not to trust, but can we read such articles and start to rejoice? well, you know, first of all, hope cannot be part of the strategy, i would definitely like
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to see a civil war in russia federation here, i am not a humanist at all, because since the evils that russia has committed not only in ukraine, and i am speaking for modern russia, i am not talking about the empire there, the empire of evil, this is definitely not bad, because they have to pay the bills, including their collapse i hope it will be the final let 's say in the final form of retribution for all these crimes . here's how, to be honest, not so. i really believed in it , because the russian federation, as well as the successor of the soviet union, is a mysterious entity and it's quite difficult to really understand what there is real and what are the games of these heads or special services, let's remember the operation of the trust. brilliant. by the way , the operation that the nkvd conducted, how it led the british, other intelligence. that this is
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simply hoarding for us in order to create some false impression, remember a month ago everyone was talking about putin's unverified illness and so on, here is the second moment and then the brilliant one and here we must surely be later many books have been written about how he built his power, how he controls everyone, and in general russians are characterized by horizontal mistrust and, in fact, this is one of the reasons why even there this disparate position is not going to happen. the film 17 moments of spring when hitler is criticized there, you don't know if it's true or not. well, since the situation is like this, any sober person understands that the situation was bad. but are there dictaphones in this briefcase? and then it's on us this printout will get on hitler's desk and actually in russia, too, it is the special forces who control the military, hoping that there will be a military
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coup, it is impossible, the russian opposition dreams of a miracle, and after leaving lada putin, they will come to power and now they want to be there the event and the plan of the marshal who arranged for them. that is, well, we call it a stupid idea of the rich, certainly the russian people, they are certainly mostly not satisfied with the poor equipment of the killers whom they send here, and not with the fact that e here is senseless for this war with russia is, well, only criminal. yes, but it is senseless, because in fact they are losing a lot and the actual collapse of the russian federation will be the result of this war. the freed, the disaffected lose their money, their children, their mistresses cannot go abroad, and they are looked upon as murderers, which they are, in principle, there is pleasure in them, but it is hardly possible to leave his power, he is quite, i say, he is brilliant as
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construction- built a system of total control, insurance in front of all this environment. i am not talking about the preterians, this national guard of the fsu, er, to everyone who are er, devoted to him, how well, i would be very difficult , like you, in fact, religious devotion to that, i do not think that it can be corrupted but you, alexander, believe that the war will end precisely with the collapse of the russian empire. because some of my interlocutors said that the war will end with our victory, and the collapse of the russian empire will happen after some time. do you think that this is exactly the end of the war will be the end of the war will be the collapse . these are the scenarios. well, in principle, we are fighting on our territory. unfortunately, our, and above all, american partners do not give us means of defeat in the depth of the territory, despite the fact that we are hitting the ukrainian crimea, the number of occupied and in the adjacent er regions of the russian
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federation. but er, let's say it's still not as massive as it should be. that's why only the collapse of russian troops on the territory of ukraine can simply push to internal problems er first of all, let's say the aggravation of the struggle for power. that is, it works there unconditionally, but i just don't believe that so, let's say, some things are real, at least under these conditions. well, putin can be said, again , to give him credit, he pretty well controls not only the information space, but also the financial system and we have seen that despite the very painful sanctions, the central bank of the russian federation is holding back the blow until now. to fall apart is absolutely obvious from the point of view that the management model he built is self-exhausting. taking into account the fact that our european partners, above all, actually gave up
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dependence almost, well, not totally will be able to reorient it to other markets, they don't have technology, there is no money for other things. that's actually it. i think that even then certain regions will think about whether we need this senseless war at all. we lost our people. they lost a lot of money, they actually fed the center there. not for nothing. and it seems to me that this collapse is not there, that is, there are some democrats, not democrats, but the regions - this is what will bury this russian empire. let's hope that in the near future you will see the republic of tatarstan, which will restore its constitution. i hope that the republic of siberia will appear, i don't know what they will call themselves there, but if there will be no access to regions rich in minerals, then moscow will turn into such a meeting place of the days of the pereobists, which simply do not have resources to somehow implement your assessments
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well, mr. oleksandr, i like your scenario of such a russian apocalypse. and to be honest, i like your version that the split will begin in russia immediately after the war. i really want it to be so, let's now move on to the g20 , the leaders of the countries of the g20 which took place last week in indonesia on the island of bali. please tell me in your opinion whether they came, talked and left or not, well, first of all, this is an informal gathering and it seems to me that in in general, it was quite successful, because in fact the organizers managed to overcome all these contradictions, because besides the formal agenda of health care there, energy and digitalization are definitely the two big topics, it was ukraine, more precisely, russian aggression against ukraine, and it means opposition to china and of the united states. we
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have seen a friendly, let's say, handshake between the president and mr. biden. confrontation directly a month ago, propane biden said that the american military will defend taiwan, now taiwan will help especially by learning the lessons of ukraine from the point of view of the stupidity of some dictators who want to seize other territories and secondly, how modern soldiers are conducted, that is why taiwan will now also study our experience and he will be helped by these educations in ukraine in a joint statement that might not be issued at all i mention ukraine and it is quite positive and it seems to me that it is eastern diplomacy when they didn't call russia criminals but they simply cited the resolution of the general assembly, which is actually not firm about it,
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and thus came out, and thank god, because well, if there had been no such statement, there would have been no such statement. it would have been worse not to have taken part, because definitely against the background of his defeat in kherson and here i have to say two things, it is very important, first of all, this is ukraine's victory, we have to constantly talk about it despite the fact that there was no, let's say yes, cleaning, these dismissals of this city street for on the street, and actually with your own blood, your own weapons, the ukrainian armed forces cleaned up and made it possible, and the second moment is the same victory for ukraine as for our partners, if it were not for you heimers. if there were no other long-range artillery, then of course what - well, such success would not be possible. that's why we have to tell about our own, but against this background, putin decided not to go, he sent all of them, just to kiev, they are showing
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a sad horse. this one these kremlin liars well, that was also positive, and the speech of the ukrainian president with ten points and actually putin's answer to 10 points for 10 missiles, and this also seems to me to be quite apt, such a metaphor that the president of ukraine used, they are extremely positive because the world sees what russia is and how does she respond to a-a the possibility of diplomacy by that patch based on the norms and principles of international law of the statute, the angle that the president said about, in fact, it is so. but on the other hand, there were countries that were not very they share the approaches of the west well, the same china does not like sanctions because it definitely tries on these clothes and does not want to be in such a tactical position, plus there are definitely countries that look through the distorted history that the soviet union once helped there to free
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themselves from the colonial domination of western countries, they believe that a large number of them are digging into conspiracy theories that it is western sanctions that caused the famine in ukraine, so if ukraine is developing, of course there are processes and there is something to work on here, but in general we shot a positive summit, our topic was there, of course, what was very important was in the joint statement, more precisely, according to the results of the conversation, all the calls and joe biden's, uh, let's say so, the warning to moscow not to use nuclear weapons is important, it is definitely again after a certain time, russia will to threaten nuclear weapons, but for a few weeks a month. they will definitely remember this statement and will not touch this topic, so in principle i assess this as positive for us. do you look at nuclear weapons and about they started russia i wasn’t going to ask you this question, but i’ll ask it, they talked, well, medvedev at least talked about how ukraine will begin to liberate
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the new territories annexed to russia, so russia can be there in general armageddon can be there, and it was after the crimean bridge, after the beginning of the liberation of the new territories annexed to russia that it will be armageddon and nothing has happened, now it is obvious that we are going further, we will reach crimea, and there are already statements from russia that ugh, if the ukrainians intend to retake crimea by force, russia will use its nuclear potential. what do you think, considering what you said, these are again threats so unconditional because let's put it this way, mr. president of the united states reinforces his words with an active i mean when he said don't do and don't do and don't he did this a couple of months ago, and then when he mentioned armageddon while meeting with his constituents, it was, well, he was criticized for it, by the way, but it should be seen that if there was a test
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of an intercontinental ballistic missile by an american they postponed such tests for a very long time until february 24, but they did it, and secondly, it seems to me that this is a rather important moment that our media missed, and this is what the americans showed at the british naval base in gibraltar, the most modern, the most modern nuclear submarine of the class agaiov rudailand, which has on board dozens of cruise missiles with tactical nuclear charges, it was a demonstration of russia itself that this should not be done , then information appeared that jacob sullivan the national security adviser of the united states is talking to mr. patroshev, he is most likely a trusted person, unlike videev, who is trying to
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remind himself of himself with his boorish, pistol genre. to be and even successors, and after putin, and of course, the very positive news was that they are going, i mean the americans and russians, to resume negotiations on strategic security the agreement on the strategy of strategic offensive weapons will be completed, and it will certainly take a certain amount of time to work them out , that is, all the same, good things in words with diplomacy behind closed doors and a demonstration of the ability and readiness to do something. i am not talking about the fact that former military personnel in it means that at all kinds of conferences , in our coat of arms, the newspaper thought about what the response of the united states to a nuclear attack on ukraine could be, and they certainly touched primarily on a non-nuclear response, but equal in strength a nuclear incident, including the destruction of the black sea fleet of the russian federation and all
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occupation forces of the russian federation on the territory of ukraine by the world. it is certain that this could lead to an escalation to the level when this armageddon appeared. but i think that in moscow it is still rational er, they look at the world and understand that the situation can lead to this, and that is why they will simply blackmail us from time to time, but they will not use weapons. moreover, there is simply no military sense in this, they do not even have a few warheads can destroy the armed forces of ukraine, mr. oleksandr, do you think that in russia they can look at something rationally? yes, i believe that putin is a rational player, the only thing is that his reality is somewhat distorted, well, definitely making such a big strategic mistake will be recorded in the history books this mistake to attack ukraine is open and wide-scale, and it is not there to seize donetsk luhansk and they would have a great chance if they used all their forces at once, but to
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swallow all of ukraine is absolute stupidity but he is rational, yes, he is an emotional person, of course he does not forgive certain people. let's say the same thing, they say that the same litvinenko was poisoned with polonium for calling him a pedophile, although in fact others talked about murders about other crimes. putin didn’t kill them either, that’s why it seems to me personally that there is a moment here, but by and large he is rational and definitely wants to survive. he is not, hmm, some kind of religious fanatic and believes that we will really go to heaven and we will all just die like that quote, that is, he wants to live, he wants to stay in power, he has mistresses, he has children, of course , he does not want his great russia, which he means at the expense of ukraine, georgia, moldova, is rebuilding with thoughts about central and eastern europe, he
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definitely does not want to destroy it, well, really yes, but i really don’t want to, ok, i won’t talk about it, let him be rational, but whatever he is, we know ours will go to the end , our armed forces will go to the end and bring us victory. thank you. thank you, mr. oleksandr for that who took part in the program this was oleksandr khara , an expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies thank you well, i still have a little time to tell you now first i will open and then i will tell you how you voted and you voted on youtube i asked you the following question: will the european parliament call russia a sponsor of terrorism? there were few votes. to be honest, 251 votes. i hoped that there would be much more. so, the reason why i asked this question is because on wednesday somewhere between the first and on the second day there will be a vote in the european parliament
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precisely for this decision to recognize russia as a state sponsor of terrorism, and you think that yes, 65% think no, 30% think so, and your option is five percent, again, i would like more people to join this voting 251 votes, i thank you all. hm, wild. thank you all. well, i think so, because they keep turning me off. the editor tells me that they keep turning off the lights, and many people simply do not have the opportunity to vote, but in any case, i thank all those who tried to do it and to everyone who did it and so that you know my opinion i am sure that they will vote that the whole world in europe in brussels will say that the teachings or what russia is doing in ukraine is a country that sponsors terrorism and i want to wait for the time
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when the same in the european parliament, to vote for another resolution is not just for the country sponsoring terrorism, but for the fact that russia is a terrorist country, because that's what it is. well, let's sum up, uh, to those who watched us on youtube, thank you, please like if you liked the program, don't like if you didn't like it, although i really hope that you liked it. well, write something like those who are watching now and those who will watch in the recording because it is important for us and it is important for the promotion of the program, he thornes, well, what is my name on this yuriy fizer, until we meet, we are looking for eight-year-old sofiyka oliynyk, who disappeared under mysterious circumstances. in march of this year, her grandmother asked for help in finding the child , and i talked to her and found out that the woman
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lost contact not only with her granddaughter a, with her daughter and imagine for more than seven months she knows nothing about the fate of her relatives and so we no longer know anything uh where is she with the child what is with them um um uh and here we live in such and such we live in such and such an upheaval mrs. rita said that her daughter and her granddaughter lived in the capital on mykola solovtsova street and when the war started, they left kyiv for about a week, they spent about a week in their house, but when the war started, she and her child were in the basement, hiding from e shells, and she was on the evacuation train with the people went and already when she was on the train to where the father called and said and how are you there, but the connection was lost. she said that they were on the train , you could hear that the children were noisy and the connection was lost.
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so, about a week after the start of the war, in the first days of september, the daughter of mrs. rita oliynyk svitlana together with her child sofiyka oliynyk decided to evacuate from the capital, the family went in the direction of transcarpathia and called their parents from the train, although the connection was lost. the next day they called again and found out that the girls had reached their destination the next day her father contacted her again, she said everything was fine, we are in zakarpattia, but the connection was interrupted again , many people were heard and we could not contact her anymore, there was no news from oily svitlana and her eight-year-old daughter sofiyka, at first mrs. rita i thought that maybe her daughter lost her phone and there is no connection, and later it became clear that her girls simply disappeared and where they are now, the woman can't even miss her, so she really hopes for your help. i would really like
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to ask people who care if you will see what do you know? something at least kind of information, so that you and i are on the phone, or not the only hope is mrs. rita, so it is very important to remember the face of the eight-year-old sofiyka oliinyk who has disappeared. she looks plus or minus for her age. she is approximately 120-130 cm tall, she has light blond hair and gray the eyes of sofia's mother, her name is svitlana, she is 36 years old, she is thin, she is about 170 cm tall, the woman has dark blond hair and green eyes, if you have seen svitlana and her daughter sofiyka somewhere or know where they may be, do not delay and dial immediately magnolia child tracing service short number 116,000 calls from any mobile operator are free
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