tv [untitled] November 22, 2022 4:30am-5:01am EET
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the leader of the times, or rather the leader, is never wrong, putin's system is built in such a way that in all defeats, someone else is to blame, the enemy , traitors or global russophobia at will, oreshkin says anything, so if putin loses somewhere, firstly, it is not true, and secondly, it is definitely not him one thing is clear now, the ukrainians do not want any negotiations , putin's press secretary piskov said recently, and he has never said something truer. this is how the article on politics begins, saying that now the ukrainians really do not want any negotiations with putin. the regime or putin personally do not want, unlike in march, for example, when the ukrainian delegation communicated with representatives of the occupiers in belarus or turkey, now after numerous victories at the front, the ukrainian authorities do not need this, and after the atrocities of the russians in buch and izyum, after the new evidence of torture in the newly liberated kherson after the attacks on civilian infrastructure that plunged ukraine into darkness and forced surgeons to perform operations with flashlights, this is not what
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the majority of ukrainian civilians want, at least that's what everyone spoke to, the author of the article, the head of the european division of politics, jamie deadpool, the mayor, well, to withdraw the troops to put an end and pave the way to peace negotiations, olaf scholz called on putin. he stated this again at the press conference of the social democratic party. is not a neighbor's backyard, no one has the right to provide someone else's territory, said scholz latina well, first of all, i looked on social networks, many people were surprised at scholz's statement. yes, this rhetoric literally a few months ago is like appeasement search for dialogue and now something seems to have turned into a hawk, this is dictated by the situation in our country or in his because he is an experienced politician no, it is a manufactured situation in our country, it is a manufactured situation in his country, it is a manufactured awareness in general if you want well,
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i do not like geopolitics, geopolitics - termi gave this to pseudo science, well, that is, it is usually operated by those who want to substantiate anything and make it scientific, well, but nevertheless yes, there is an awareness of global processes, so i, for example, absolutely do not surprised, and by the way, his position has not really changed much, the interpretation has changed rather. and that is, well, who is against negotiations, who is against the peacekeepers, in principle, for negotiations, and in principle , in a moment, this question is possible. to discuss with the russians the size of the contributions are ready to discuss with them the restitution of cultural and historical values that they exported for centuries not to mention just the events are not ready to discuss even there i don't know the return to ukraine of those territories that were part of the ukrainian people's republic. yes, there were liberation struggles at the beginning of the 20th century, that is, well, that is, i can
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draw you a lot of scenarios for negotiations , the problem is that today the parties are in mutually exclusive positions, since they can compromise a the main thing is that the parties retain the belief that by armed means they can strengthen their negotiating positions as long as this ability is preserved until there can be no negotiations and on and the last literal replica e-e when germany capitulated in the first world war, german troops occupied a large part of france. well, that is, it is simply an awareness of the simple fact that it is possible to withdraw from ukraine, they may not withdraw from ukraine, that is, to capitulate, that is, they can withdraw from ukraine before the surrender, and they can withdraw after surrender but nevertheless, that is, one should not think that if their soldier is standing somewhere, then this makes surrender impossible.
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ukraine in the past, at least i will ask. can there really be such an option that, well, everyone has the same logic, and by the way, this is a very important moment, valentine. and that we first go to the borders of 1991 and then expect capitulation from the russian federation as a loss and this can happen before, not necessarily. i agree with my colleague. is it clear that we have historical precedents? therefore, it is obvious that many things in the process of the russian-ukrainian war can happen behind the scenes of the battlefield, but it is obvious what the further development of the situation directly depends on the success or failure of the ukrainian defense forces, but the fact that such an option is possible is a possible internal political destruction on the territory of the russian federation. this is obvious because there are different views on the further development of the russian federation. in the russian federation itself, there is a club of those army men and cheers - patriots who shout about a victorious war until the end, to the last russian soldier, and others are looking for
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some compromises, while they are from ukraine and with the countries of the collective west. absolutely mediated position will be as it will be vladyslav i just want to slightly shift the vector of our conversation the day before president zelensky announced that the liberation of kherson for this war is like an analogy of previous wars when the point of movement towards victory of one side has already been passed. that is, we already understand who will win, the whole world understands. it's just us. hmm. well, we have to make efforts to achieve this victory, but here is this capitulation. well, where can we have it? in fact, now what remains is the horde, that is, donetsk is no longer there. there was a horde until february 24, 2022, now there is no horde, the territory is temporarily occupied by russia, donetsk is luhansk and crimea, and we understand that the blow, well, at least you said it yourself, that the liberation of kherson by the armed forces
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of ukraine was a powerful blow to the russian federation as a whole and we do not know the next point strike and we will not really talk about it, it is a matter of the general staff and the armed forces, but what will be the driving factor, the loss of crimea, the loss, the loss of donbas or donetsk, we can talk about it in fact, it is not important where exactly the counteroffensive of the ukrainian defense force will take place, because it is obvious that the very structure that putin personally created is breaking down, we remember that later he was ready to find out nuclear weapons if aggression was carried out on the part of ukraine in relation to the russian region sevastopol and simferopol, and here there is such a situation that from now on the russian region, according to putin, kherson is now under the control of the ukrainian defense village, where are you, nuclear weapons, detail, army rhetoric, it is no longer there the destruction of the pyramid that was once created in connection with nuclear weapons is beginning, as if we still have to owe to our western partners, who have, including
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the united states, and these negotiations, which , again, other publications wrote about, well, crimea at least it seemed to me, valentina, that crimea is a very sacred sacred thing for putin, yes, he visited it, this is the phrase возвращение в родную гаван, ah , and its loss, what will it mean for putin politically, let's say it's nothing will mean well, because we reason, we think about russian society based on the criteria of ukrainian, well, there is no such political regime, which is sub-zoned through their prism, look at us here in the engine of the meeting regarding the study of russia, listen, we can go to the borders of ukraine as of 91 -th year and not stop this war, we must realize this. that is, it will mean that we just bought our territory from deo, but what should we do next? well, let's assume that we crossed the state border, which is internationally recognized as of 199 the first year when
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ukraine's independence was declared, what happens next, it automatically ends no, it doesn't end well, let's do it, that is, it can end well, that is, it ends when they are taken over, or, uh, there are uh, some territories , wars end there, when some agreements are made, there is a political fixation, so i will repeat that we can, roughly speaking, not go to the borders and end the war by winning it, that is, having achieved the result, but we can go to the borders and not end the war. that is, to say different so we are not talking about options, and zelenskyi said that we will not negotiate with putin's regime. there is a corresponding decision of the national security council, that's all. i personally conclude that it is very simple and possible. well , it is not obvious to many, but it is obvious to me as long as the current political the regime, this war will continue, the question
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is only in its format, in its tension and, well, dynamics, roughly speaking, and once again, no achievements of ukraine, well, such armed forces in this aspect, in any way, will not, in any way, affect the attitude of russian society to their own power, because their government is what we say is democracy, yes, the source of power is the people in the russian federation, the source of power is not the people, that is, there are other political regimes, others, the mechanics of the dynamics of this regime, no one is interested in whether they support him or they don't support you, you started the program based on what the king said, they said you have to go. well, he said everything and they left, that is, they will go on. well, they will be naked and barefoot in galoshes with sticks, you understand, there will be foreign troops ugh, what will be in their heads at this time. so when they leave, let's talk in more detail. russia does not stop fighting and information. a few
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days ago, the russian mass media spread the publication of the head of the lublin city council, yaroslav pakula, who stated that the purpose of the fall of the ukrainian missile in poland is to intimidate europe, a terrible in russia, a politician also allegedly called on the government to reconsider its position on ukraine, then hostile telegram channels published information allegedly from the president's office about concerns about anti-ukrainian sentiments poland the next day , stanislav zharyn, the commissioner of the government of poland for the security of the information space, wrote on his twitter page that the specified post is a disinformation campaign that persecutes the russian parliamentary goals, the post was spread from a fake shark account on facebook, which was then used to promote the narrative, well, such fakes were also spread the nationalist occupiers supposedly shot five ukrainian militants in front of the formation or that the armed forces of ukraine are laying mines deep in the rear where they pose a threat to civilians, especially children. well, the russian federation reported that an
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unprofessionally drafted resolution on physical nuclear security and guarantees in ukraine was adopted at a meeting of the megate, which goes beyond the agency's mandate. tetyana popova, a journalist and an expert on public affairs , will help us understand russian propaganda. association of information security tetiana, congratulations, well, it is clear that there are such fakes for the past week, which were collected, including by the center for countering disinformation at the nsdc, but i wanted i would like to talk about kherson because, as far as i know, there are people who survived the occupation and are now happy to be released. they are spreading information as if the armed forces of the russian federation can return. yes, about their cunning plan, about their trap for the armed forces of ukraine, were you in kherson? why is it so important to dispel? these are the ones, well. can we call it informational and psychological
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operations right there? local ? is trying to drag nato, europe and the usa into a war, and that there is no need to help ukraine, that there is no need to surrender to the ukrainian troops, they beat you, this is already the smashing of sledgehammer heads with the head of sledgehammers, this is also confirmation of this narrative, then the shooting of prisoners of war is confirmation of this narrative, they are trying to disrupt the ukrainian program, come back alive or stay alive, what is it called for the russians , and the third narrative is that they will return, well, first of all, they talk about it from their propaganda snakes and through local telegram channels through local groups are trying to spread this information, although i understood what to pass well, you have a military expert sitting in the studio in vladislav seleznyov who can say for sure
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that crossing the dnieper without bridges will probably be almost impossible and accordingly people indeed, some people are afraid because i interviewed several men whose child they wanted to seize, and he and the child were taken to the crimea and were not allowed back, and he was still able to return, he gave me an interview, but forbade me to take pictures of my face and also i took pictures of two men who were sitting in this kherson prison and who were tortured, they talked about it but again refused to take pictures of their faces, that is, there is a part of people who suffered from the russians and who are really afraid of them and of course the people on the square there were quite a lot of them there, they were very happy and they openly expressed their opinions, but i want to say that
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russian bots came to my youtube channel in the comments and started writing that now we will write down all these advisers, well, something like that they tried to do intimidation, that is, i am one of them, one of the narratives that they are promoting now, and they are promoting it through all options through the russian state media, through the telegram channel, and even bots in the comments are doing it tatiana well, you are also exploring the information field in russian, and it is an interesting thing before that, we talked about the loss of kherson for the russian federation, for the russian authorities , and personally for putin. the warlords dispersed the treason, so to speak, that they surrendered kherson and fled from there and that now it is necessary to prepare further there in the crimea, the pro-russian federation
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even began to talk about its territory. countries, it was you, they can say one thing today that it is white. the next day, the same thing will be black in them, and after some new time, due to some number of repetitions and showing of this object yes, or there are these circumstances in this way, people start a large number of people, some percentage , he begins to believe it is standard from the book, even from advertising, i am such a standard there, the effective frequency is what is called a, but in kherson they found a very simple way out they said that they uh it was a brilliant preservation operation, i will withdraw all the troops, although this is not true and they did not withdraw not all the troops, not all the equipment, and in the last ones who left, even some of them could not leave. i
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even talked to the children on the square who told me well, there was this russian equipment on the river, it was taken away unharmed, i then talked to the military, she confirmed to me that she had taken this equipment and there was a lot of equipment broken near the antoniv bridge, so, well, you remember that in the first days of journalists they didn't let me into kherson. and when they let me in, even when i arrived on the day when i came to the president, this equipment was no longer here, that's why there are now consultations with the ministry of defense, the president's office and the general staff about whether there should be access for journalists. did not take away their accreditation, at least if they were able to get into the city on the first day. well, the discussion is really ongoing, but here the generator must decide for himself which decision to approve of tatyana's last question. and how did putin manage to
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avoid either shame or a negative association with the loss of kherson, well, at least the journalists of international publications noticed that he did not comment on it, well, it is the simplest technology, in fact, but all the same, putin started this war by calling it a special military operation, and it seems to me well this connection in the heads of the russians is very difficult to break or not. there is also no reason for the consequential connection of these connections. look, he really did not comment , and moreover, they put a puck made of surovikin to comment, who are now fully responsible for the surrender of kherson, although for some soldiers on they even began to write that the problems with kherson began even earlier under the previous command. and suroviking, as it were, was already supposed to derail the situation. first of all, secondly, i can’t say that putin is not losing his rating and trust in himself in the background.
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i will lose the war, i talked to bas galyavimov , if you know, he used to be a speechwriter in the kremlin there during medvedev's time, er, i talked to other russians who confirm to me that there is no loss of trust in the authorities, to putin, a loss to well, as support, even the war is happening and against the background of unsuccessful mobilization and against the background against the background of retreats at the front and against the background of that, people are changing, these whole companies are still changing, people still notice that something is wrong, well, putin's banker, if you know such a pugachev, and he even said that putin even his the entourage has already dismissed it, they just don’t, they don’t enter into a direct confrontation, they are just waiting for someone to use a snuff box or when something will happen, everything must be asked in this context, which
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putin was dismissed. he said that there are at least three . thank you for helping to understand tatyana’s russian propaganda popova, a journalist and expert in information security, was with us, gentlemen, for a short comment, mr. vladyslav, they appealed to you , there really is such a fear among the people of kherson that the russians will return, there is no possibility for all bridges destroyed in the ukrainian village, the defense concentrated a large number of anti-aircraft defense and artillery on the right bank of the dnieper, therefore, even after accumulating the appropriate resources, russia will not be able to build the same plan that they implemented at the end of february this year, this propaganda is still trying to find or get into the heads of our partners, let's talk about let's talk about this in more detail, and mr. valentin, you will comment from a political point of view. so, the control of the republican party over the lower house of the american congress may not reduce, but on the contrary , improve the quality and quantity of the united states' aid to ukraine, this is what the former national security adviser of the us president george bush jr. michael believes. but in the column on politics, he lists the steps to
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achieve this, first of all, it is really necessary to conduct an audit of the american aid to ukraine, but not necessarily it is necessary to check every check, it is necessary to clarify the priorities, secondly, the question about the effectiveness of aid should be asked not so much to ukraine as to europe , which many in the states perceive as so to speak zaytsia believes that they are trying to get through the crisis at the expense of the united states, but there are especially many questions for germany. are unprecedentedly close, and if the kremlin wins this war, it will also be a victory for china and may inspire it to take further aggressive steps, therefore, the loss of kyiv and its allies in this war may cost too much of the world, ally believes, and the coordinator of strategic communications at the national security council, john kirpi, said that in the coming months, ukraine will receive even more material and technical assistance for
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weapons, including what the united states usually allocates, and negotiations are underway in the congress regarding the program for the allocation of funds for the 23rd year, mr. one but in these aspects, everyone was afraid of the majority of republicans, yes, they really took it in the senate, but the congress is almost 50 to 50, we will know the results for sure in january, but you see, there are already reassurance about the fact that the republicans are not so scary for ukraine, i don't know who was afraid , i was afraid, for example. well, because there are a lot of studies that you, political commentators, gave. regarding kherson , another russian fake that for some reason was picked up in ukraine and frankly you spread the word about the fact that the ukrainians allegedly gave the russians the opportunity to leave kherson , that you almost draw parallels with the situation in soslamyan, when in fact they allowed bitter people to leave donetsk, that is, they did not leave kherson like that and
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a lot was destroyed and a lot of trophy equipment and everything else, but this is a russian fake that was picked up in order to discredit what the collection of the forces of ukraine and the military-political leadership of ukraine once again started these conversations about some alleged behind-the-scenes, these negotiators, that is, this is also a fake, another fake that they are spreading about the fact that the court allegedly found vaz to be guilty of the downing of this boeing in ukraine, although this is not the case, that is, in fact, it is possible to continue that the return to kherson, by the way, you also know how blondes are asked what is the probability that you will meet a dinosaur in new york, she says 50x50, either you will meet or we won't meet, so when he says this is delusional that they can come back, well, they can come back. maybe you don't return but the probability that they will not return is much higher than the probability that they will return and to answer your questions now yes there is such a term vetocracy that is very often used to describe the american political
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systems there is a very complicated procedure for approving political decisions and if here in russia some people are used to the fact that one person's tyranny depends on the political course and strategic decisions in america, in the united states of america , in general, in the civilized world, this is one moment the second point is that there are also different wings and groups among the republicans, and the so -called trumpists, from whom the pro-russian message is usually heard, so they do not constitute the majority there, that is, it is a completely different wing republicans, who are perhaps even more radical than uh, democrats, there is such a concept that karina and dino in america yes. that is, they are republicans and name only and democrat and name online. yes, this is when they are formally supposed to be democrats, but politically they are closer to republicans and on the contrary, they are republicans what are the republicans formally, but the worldview and political ideology are closer to i will say that i
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am leading it this way, for today, it is a very simple question: is the current world order or this current world order going to be preserved? destroyed, there are countries that are interested in preserving this order, there are those countries that want to destroy it, that's all enough to do today, when the americans provide support to ukraine, and the europeans, they invest in their own security, as in nature, zelensky said, they want to preserve the existing political world order order, and countries like iran, like north korea, like russia, like syria, like, who is there, belarus? well, on the contrary, they want to destroy this world order, because they frankly say that it does not suit them and they do not even want to live and there are such moments, and there is china, which actually does not want to destroy the existing political overview, they want to change their place in the hierarchy, and this is a slightly different story, okay, thank you for such a view, and what i wanted to say is that some democrats, after hearing and
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seeing ron desantivs, and this is a potential competitor trump in the elections in the republican party, just in the internal elections, they said that in any case they are ready to even vote for him, yes, that is, that is what valentyn was talking about, vladislav, i wanted to ask to return to the words of john kirby the coordinator of strategic communications at the us security council about this help, which has not even happened yet. well, we understand that war, the course of war changes, and what we saw was effective in conditionally dry weather, so this is the moisture that is now needed outside the window there will be other approaches, do you see that our partners are responding to these requests, because as far as i know, the general staff is making them and in a few months they are forecasting everything, so it is absolutely sensitive that there is a permanently agreed position and this process has certain time frames, they are not too within a certain period of time, it is worked out accordingly in expert groups by relevant officials, what exactly is needed for the ukrainian
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army, including during the implementation of combat missions . so that the winter period of hostilities can be conducted under more or less decent acceptable conditions and, accordingly, the case that is needed to strengthen the power of our army - this is artillery, this is missiles rszoohai, this is being implemented in relation to other issues, there are certain negotiations, there is a certain public component. well, for example, america will never, uh, give us the same f16 fighters , but nevertheless, a group of ukrainian pilots is currently engaged in a training program, exporters need to be ready, gentlemen today we talked about the influence of kremlin propaganda in a fairly significant part of our program and how it affects russians and thinking people , but what do the foreigners in your family think about it
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psychological deviations are mentioned in the text above . my cousin believes in russian propaganda. you can see such a text below. and here is something that russians will not see on the airs of their propagandists and why show it if for some russians this is their usual life. this is our neighbor. i thank our viewers. thank you to our guests valentyn glykh, political scientist vladyslav seleznyov, a military expert as the historical
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general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, were today at the conditional research center of the russian federation . thank you, believe in the armed forces, support them and bring our victory closer. everything will be fine . i last saw my native donetsk in 2012, and soon the war for almost 9 years will deprive me of the opportunity to return home with the beginning of a full -scale invasion. ukrainian gymnasts about three thousand athletes and coaches are currently defending the independence of our country, more than 100 of them will never return home, our training halls are the customer but we must not be silent we must not silence russia's crimes against ukraine as
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russian and belarusian athletes do, their silence is support for bloody russian terror, and terrorists have no place in international sports. i call on all citizens of the civilized world to support ukraine on the sports front, share your posts with company hashtags and call for a boycott of russian and belarusian athletes are killed with the support of the ministry of youth and sports of ukraine. we are coming back in the liberation of the city. support is already waiting for us, where volunteers and neighbors are ready lend a shoulder, even at work, people don't work like they do, it's a very united people where what's lost can't be returned. we'll create something new. i really want to be close to ukraine
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. we want to be close to ukraine. you can invest in victory and even receive a profit from it, buy government military bonds. it's like a deposit , only not in a bank, but in the state and the army, you just take action and choose, they differ in term repayment from six months to one and a half years, profit depends on this, for example, the value of the donetsk bond is uah 1,00023, but on the maturity date it will already be uah 1,240. they are named in honor of temporarily occupied cities and territories. after all, by buying, you become a sponsor of their liberation, make a real contribution to the economy
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