they won't do that, you know, before the invasion, you said something about the situation regarding tolerance , so uh, i don't know who among the uh sports figures decided that shufrych should have suffixes to be in this at night or mokiy as it is. well, well, i think that there are still many people who need to calmly leave there by themselves now so that there is nothing else, so that there is no such thing as saying that there will definitely be a demand for justice in society, it is so high, so i think that you understand this together with everyone, if someone believes that it will be possible to loop no, it is not possible, it is impossible to be a different society and we are paying a very high price for it, no less than what to do with mps, the party is prohibited, and mp you work, here you asked me a question, how can i

have an answer to this question, i emphasize the president once again, maybe you can do something advise on this matter, i will advise all deputies for quite some time, you know my advice and we will say goodbye as soon as possible, everyone, everyone who has to provide from passengers, take your things there, if you have any there , and quickly, have you already left there, someone, what exactly then there with the diamonds then what are they going to do there enter there anywhere leave us alone everything is possible for someone this is a very light punishment maybe just look uh you suggest that what should i do with them tell me i think that here the issue of the rule of law, my opinion is that the issue of the supreme court, then there should be a procedure or a procedure. look, it's not only us who have a problem in this world with procedural problems, and lately i can give you so many examples. if you want, we are 17, 8 years old, 8 years old, you u.s

you say that we have to build something in a year that has been here for 30 years, all these people have been here for 30 years, this is what i can say. look, we are 17 8 years old, and who are the sentences for those people who have something to do with it ? from this beech, 298 innocent people were simply taken and killed, and in eight years i will understand . as far as i understand it, the next stage may be the investigation, but at least in this matter. and now you want us to do it quickly, quickly. i am now trying to understand whether there is at least is there at least a willingness to start such an investigation, a willingness to start answering sincerely the questions posed by society, i honestly don't even see a willingness so far, it's not without regard to you, we often conduct interviews

with various officials, so ... everyone is somehow trying to avoid answers for the time being, so far, not something . you are very nice to me to cooperate with you . you ask i answer all questions if i have answers i will definitely give you if i don't have an answer i will give you an honest answer that i don't have an answer to this question to date i really wanted my whole life to be fair i would really like it was another country. i would really like our presidents who were in our country at one time to care about the country and not about their own start. i want a lot of things, but once again i will emphasize life to the great regret. she is completely let's put it another way but with my experience i can say it definitely puts everything in its place questions only time last question you said that

you now have a lot of work in the context of energy and energy security and mr. danilov and you admit that there could be a complete blackout there throughout the territory of ukraine or in all of kyiv or will half the country be shut down everything is water, light, electricity, isn’t everything going to be so bad, look, life will show how it will be. i want to say that we need to prepare for one or other events that may happen in the future, whether they will last or not, we can’t be with you it depends on many issues, it depends on us, including how we will save money, how we will today carefully treat those resources that we have, unfortunately, are limited, but what concerns the insidiousness of the russian federation, it may not be so we have seen with you repeatedly that, unfortunately, they are so insidious that they can do anything .

believe me, a huge number of people are engaged in this in order for us to have electricity and water and for us to have communication in our homes. more powerful than us in many parameters well, definitely not in the spirit thank you very much they say that now a lot of people are watching us only on youtube 5000 you are a popular guest mr. danilov er thank you very much oleksiy danilov secretary of the council of national security and defense with you work well then we invite you to a big one-hour interview, where we will discuss everything in more detail on each question, we will go through it once more, thank you very much oleksiy danilov, secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine well, i will remind you that svoboda life is broadcast live on the pages of radio svoboda on facebook and on youtube, as well as on the espresso tv channel if you watch us on the internet, don't forget

to subscribe, put likes, the more your reactions , the more people will know about us well, let's continue svoboda life, the head of the president's office, andriy yarmak, concentrates state power on himself, and people close to him will receive more and more often high government positions came to these conclusions after analyzing the latest top appointments in the country, what does this mean, we will say when an international tribunal for putin can be created, we talked about it with oleksandra matviychuk, she heads the center for civil liberties, which received the nobel peace prize this year well, another scandal, the grandson of the deputy of the verkhovna rada from the servant of the people, the olympic champion zhan beleniuk, wrote a statement to withdraw from the national olympic committee. as it turned out, a large part of the members - this is a departure from the party of regions. and how is it possible? we will also talk further. well, we will continue very briefly, and we will also discuss what the consequences

will be today. evening. what are your impressions of today's news regarding the searches in the kiev-pechersk lavra? it was a surprise for you, for me, for an expert who has been thinking about this for 30 years, nothing too nothing new has happened. we have been waiting for a long time for the relevant authorities to be interested in what is happening there on the territory of this lavra, well, in addition to the direct duties performed by the lavra as a shrine all-ukrainian as a place for pilgrimage as a place for training future priests to perform the liturgy well, there were interesting we have certain questions . well, for example, we were very interested. and which of the monks are citizens of non-ukraine, on what grounds

are they there? i know that there are moldovans and russians there, that is, citizens of this country and just today, well, the documents of those who live there as rapists of this lavra are being checked, they are generally looking at what is being done in this territory, are there any prohibited substances there, because they are very worried about not using the territory of the lavra as a place where some criminal structures can be formed, well, it is about subversive groups, because there was information that they could concentrate on the place of this uh, this laurel. and you believe in this one, you yourself just announced that you were watching and there was information that certain members of the leadership of the uoc mp may have different passports, including russian passports, do you

believe that this is true at all? do you have any grounds or reasons to believe that this is so? we will find out about this now, not two passports, but three and four just in case, but it is not about that, it is about the fact that the kyiv-pechersk lavra for a long time was still a center where the ideas of the russian world were calmly and completely propagated, i periodically visited them bookstore and was always surprised by the literature that was sold within the limits of this religious literature. well, first of all, more than half of it was sold in russian, well , you can kind of turn a blind eye to this, because among the

parishioners of the ukrainian orthodox church there are many russian-speaking and spiritual literature you still have to read in your native language and so on, but for example, the publication and distribution of native e-e newspapers on the territory of the lavra that were not published in the lavra but, say, the dnipro metropolis or diocese, well, such a well-known newspaper, i even subscribed to it, "rus is the state", do you understand that on the pages of this newspaper, which was published in russian in dnipro, not a word was said about the fact that ukraine is an independent state, that the ukrainian language has the right to exist, that ukrainian is orthodox the church of the kyiv patriarchate at that time or the autocephalous orthodox church is the same church of the ukrainian people as the ukrainian orthodox in unity with the moscow patriarchate, and we have periodically reported on this.

analyzing, conducting a content analysis of various documents, the relevant authorities because we, as citizens of ukraine, understood the danger of the presence of these ideas, the influence of these ideas, the unconsciousness of the believers of the ukrainian orthodox church, but you know, there have been some changes in relations in connection with the release of bakanov the new e-deliverer e-e i only know that he only fulfills e-e duties vasyl vasyliovych kid it seems to me that somehow he took more seriously those e-e army warnings that were made by various exports well, without looking, as they say on faces, because she knows for some reason it is considered that if you are a metropolitan or if you are untouchable in this state, well, they are the same citizens, just like all of us, and should bear

the same responsibility for committing criminal acts, or let's say anti-ukrainian actions and i always emphasize now, even more so in the conditions of the russian-ukrainian war, we know about this, but the eyes of all 30 years ago, and before that, they looked at it through their fingers, well, there is a structure. well, yes, they are spiritually connected with the russian orthodox church. are connected by thousands of threads with spiritual schools. because there are many people of the first hierarchy . they studied in our church. they are friends there. they went to visit. they were members of the synod. so on. well, probably in the heads of these people, just now it is possible that the period is coming when they begin to

realize themselves as an independent church, as a church of an independent state, these are painful processes and complex processes and not by the way, everyone is ready to jump to such a level of awareness. here i am, autocephaly is not written. yes , you can write anything you want in your charter, that is, let them recognize themselves as independent and independent, even because they clearly wrote it in their charters. well, but the most prominent at the highest level, listen to me right now i am just at the grassroots level on the barvial, that’s all, unfortunately, we have time, but you are interested in listening to me. i think that this story will have a continuation and we will repeatedly involve you in this broadcast on the topic what is there takes place in the kyiv-pechersk lavra, thank you very much lyudmila filopovych, religious scholar, professor of the national university of kyiv-mohyla academy, was on radio svoboda during 2021-22

, in particular, and since the beginning of the full-scale russian invasion, at least six leading positions in the state have been given to people from the entourage of the head of the president's office andriy yarmaka of ukraine this is stated in the investigation of the journalists of the running class , it is noted that the assistants, acquaintances and former business partners of the head of the president's office include the supervisory boards of large state-owned enterprises and banks hold positions in ministries and law enforcement agencies, the last such example, the recently nationalized enterprise ukrnaft included andriy yarmak's former lawyer roza and panova and his adviser andriy gota , another acquaintance of yermak's long-time manager of arms procurement for ukraine at the ministry of defense business partner denys sharapov claims that the journalists of the state council of the state support for cinematography, which deals with the distribution of funds allocated for ukrainian cinema headed by artem kolyubaev, a former producer and former business partner of andriy yermak, journalists also

call kostya, the new prosecutor general, a person who is indebted to yarmak for obtaining a high position. well, the new chairman of the national bank became the ex-chairman of oschadbank andriy pishnyy, who was part of yarmak makfola 's group. also together with yarmak, when he created the organization khush, which helps people with hearing impairment, well, another freelance adviser of andriy yarmak, ruslan magomedov, will head the national securities commission of the stock market from february 2022 it was this commission that took the shares of ukrnafta and transferred them to the ownership of the ministry of defense. journalists emphasize that the president's office refused to answer questions about these appointments and their connections with andriy yarmak. at the same time, it is important . journalists emphasize that the appointments themselves do not indicate anything bad the fact that there are people in key offices probably recommended by andriy yermak, although recruiting personnel for these positions is not part of his job duties, now we will discuss this story before the broadcast

greetings oleg sahakyan, political scientist olezhe good evening , such an irrelevant question to everything that the journalists of bigus-info eh olezhe, from your point of view. they say that he is more influential than volodymyr zelenskyi, how true is this thesis, or can it be an exaggeration? makes decisions in one way or another. but if we talk about yarmak's influence, it is absolutely obvious to everyone that yarmak influences zelenskyi's decisions and, accordingly, the decisions of others vertically also influence zelenskyi's decisions, yarmak can influence that is why it is very difficult to exaggerate or change yarmak's influence. i don't know why they are measured in joules

and kilograms. but we can say that his influence is significant and he is exactly one of the most influential people in today's vertical power, not to say that he is second only to the president in terms of this influence. if to talk about the positions that are distributed, it is really difficult to give an unequivocal or black or white assessment , because on the one hand, what is new? accordingly, we did not have this phenomenon. no , it was there all the years and it was dictated in particular by the fact that we do not have a normal institutional base to ensure the training of personnel, the stability of these personnel, the inheritance of these personnel, and accordingly, we have all key positions are determined politically. and it depends politically on where a person came from, if she came from the production legal

business, she takes with her lawyers, producers, those who were around her whom she can trust and places them in positions where their competences can be effective in fulfilling those or of other tasks . if she came from a business and a corporate one, well, she brings managers from her corporation and an automobile confectionary, etc., this person comes from a criminal environment, appoints onlookers from red factories, exposes breeders banker of bankers and further down the list, this simply speaks of the sweetness of the instinctive base and the fact that even a person who really came, let's say, with tasks and a desire, for example, to change, she will still be forced to take people from those of us she knows with those with whom she has met in life and yes, it turns out that a significant part of these people will not be politically elected because the path of these people did not take place in the political sphere mainly and they take these people from those spheres of business, power

, corporate, etc., in which they took place to a certain extent, it is logical that the problem here is not even in the ermak and in the fact that some of these people are effeminate with them, but with the fact that in our state there are no normal mechanisms that would deploy effective and a-a hmm experienced people who would grow middle of the state apparatus and it would be possible to head such departments, but it depends on who politically heads the department and determines the political course of the countries . yes, something went wrong, okay, without searching, searching, and maybe training, er, training was in truskavets, but look at how dangerous such an approach is in relation to andriy borysovich yermak, because, for example, the journalists of bigosefo drew analogies with viktor medvedchuk, who also once was the head of the presidential administration and while he was there he

gained enormous influence and became an oligarch. and this provided him with further political existence there, in particular, i don’t know how appropriate it is to draw such parallels. but nevertheless, what is the danger when there is no training of the proper personnel in the country and when everything is tied to one person well, i would say that panology with medvedchuk, of course, they attract a little by the ears, because they can then mention baloga , you can mention others, and the position of the head of the office of the administration or the president's secretariat is already the name of these institutions also changed. it has always been a place of influence because, in fact, in our office, the activities of the office of the president of the administration of the secretary are weakly regulated and, accordingly, they take place at their own discretion in fact, in the conditions of duplicating her leadership over the executive branch of government, when we have a president and a prime minister, this is to some extent a kind of schizoid story that they both lead the vertical

plus also through a certain step because the president has influences on the administration er, regional , regional, etc., for appointments, but the prime minister has more influence in the departmental way, and in the end, the reform that was supposed to remove this partially in the part of the administration, we remember how this reform was adopted under petro poroshenko and then he received the already buried slaughterhouse and he began appointing political people to these positions again, so again there is nothing new here and this position has always been quite important, everything depended on how much the president himself raises this person in status or lowers him to a functional importance as far as it enables her to reveal herself, including publicly under cameras and not publicly, this person has always decided many things in this way. this concentration is threatening to the institutional base of the state and to the stability of the institution's work because it generates a

corruption risks because if a certain position concentrates more powers on itself than the formal prescribed one, then accordingly it has no responsibility. well, yarmak said, or baloga said before that, or medvedchuk said before that. can we put any other surname there, a dozen people came through this position you can't ignore him by phone by right, well, how can you, but then you will lose your position because they understood that the informal weight of this person is very high, but this request is an order and you can't push it anywhere because formally this person does not respond to this direction and it is responsible for that. secondly, it provokes informal connections, not only corruption , but also telephone law, because there is a discrepancy between the formal weight and the informal weight of this or that position. who was not elected does not bear responsibility before the voter, this is a harm to democracy itself, because it actually violates the principles of its democratic system. then the responsibility

falls on the shoulders of the president, who actually appoints this person, but this is not ours either. regulated olezhe for such a detailed detailed analysis oleg sahakyan, a political scientist was on the airwaves of radio liberty well, at the very end, we want to talk about the scandals in the national olympic committee, let's recall what happened there in the last week, and then we will discuss the dissolution of the scandal in the national olympic committee of ukraine on november 17, then elected the head of the nok and members of the president's committee, the minister of youth and sports vadim gutsayd serhii bubka became the incumbent, the head of the committee for the previous 17 years publicly supported him kutsat announced that he is ready to resign from the government for a new position, but focus on his work in the olympic committee of ukraine. this is a very important body of ours, a public organization that represents

our sport at all world levels, so i will now prioritize the main rivals of the good site in these elections. of greco-roman wrestling and people's deputy from the servant of the people zhan beleniuk, after the defeat, he wrote in a telegram that i believe that we still have a great future in ukrainian olympic russia and it will begin when new ukraine will be ready for changes today the old system won or the online voting system won, the public was most outraged that odious politicians nestor shufrych and hryhoriy surkis got into the organization. president of the organization , former coach of the ukrainian national football team andriy shevchenko i consider it an honorable job to work in the national

olympic committee, i understand its importance development, at the same time, i cannot remain a member of the nok for such a composition, we pay an infinitely high price for our freedom with the lives of the best ukrainians, we must be worthy of them. other discredited members of the committee were found , a list of more than 20 people was published by football player roman zo similar shufrych and surkis performed only the function of a lightning rod and while society was rightly outraged by their by names on the list, the newly elected president vadym gud, the site brought the golden team to the knees, 80% of which have nothing to do with sports at all, unless corruption is considered to be a fight for

a place on the list of military personnel or rockets in the 90s. after this publication, an application to withdraw from the olympic committee zhan beleniuk also wrote. he said that he could not work with such a composition. yuliya kryuchkova radio svoboda people's deputy and olympic champion zhan beleniuk joins our broadcast zhan good evening after you wrote a statement that you are you leaving or did they try to persuade you to stay ? it was my final decision and i can't say anything more. and what does this mean? in general, i want to pump a little from something else. because it is very good that now the public reaction is that which

we all see now that people are aware of the risks that the country may face . that nok is considered the second ministry of foreign affairs and what kind of structure it is defends our interests, the interests of ukraine in the international arena, especially in the area of ​​sports and olympism. and of course, these concepts should be relayed by people who, er, and similar stories with pro-russian parties and the defense of pro-russian narratives, so i am very pleased that our society eh- at a very high cost, now defending its future, its independence, and it understands that similar similar m-m

similar integration of the fifth column directly into ukrainian sports and er representatives of which they will be on the international arena. this is simply unacceptable at the moment. moreover, we are literally now in the hot stage of the war with russia. the ministry of foreign affairs. well, it turns out that these people are the regional background of his pzzhnym. they still remain in the nok, unfortunately, that's why you saw my publication yesterday what am i leaving? that is, this is a mini-protest. i believe that all people who have an opinion about the ukrainian position should do the same in the same way, relatively speaking, show their point of view and their position regarding what is happening. at the moment, with the national olympic committee, maybe you are waiting for someone to react to this, the government, for example,

if you understand the situation, i think that the representatives of the government are aware of what happened. and people's deputies are writing to me with an appeal and the creation of the tsk and to directly participate in the analysis of this situation because they i am also, to put it mildly, not delighted with what is happening in the tem, especially in the ninth month of the war against the russian federation , that is, now the public er-e agitation er-er around this issue it is big enough and of course er-e what about ukrainian athletes who know and clearly understand who our state is currently at war with, they should also take their own position regarding what is happening. i want to tell you more about the elections themselves. this system is

difficult enough. that the minister acted directly to us, by the way, he wrote a statement of resignation because he said that he would not join. i understand that, unfortunately, we have already run out of time, but we are monitoring this topic and we will get back to them very quickly on a separate interview and we will talk about it with you thank you very much zhan belenyuk people's deputy of ukraine and olympic champion well, freedom life will return to the air tomorrow