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, and we can talk to you, because there is something nastya , first of all, you are not hungry, you are not cold, you are not hungry, my brothers gave me coffee, they gave me cookies, they gave me everything, the volunteers help to eat, they feed me stews, i can't eat anymore, i can't look at her i can't, stew. yes, i know it's not what you love. you love bona's son. you love meat. you and i really like to eat well. how do you survive at the front when there's no time for hot and normal food? well, before you go here i myself i mentally prepared for all conditions, i prepared for the worst because i didn't understand how it would be there, that is, the war in the country has

lasted for 8 years and it lasted like this. i knew i didn't know exactly where i would end up and what my conditions would be, but nothing. well, you can adapt to everything. you can get used to everything. there is no possibility to wash there, so they invented wet wipes for this, uh, we have the possibility to wash the hair for girls, i'm dry shampoo well, wash it somehow things are a problem with this because things are starting to stink, but here everyone smells like this from everyone , so somehow we smell it normally and continue to serve and laugh and sin yes nastya, where did you sleep today because we understand that the life of the military on the front line it's completely different every night sometimes it's the trenches

sometimes it's maybe some abandoned house somewhere i'll say that i've never lived in the trenches uh, our boys live in the trenches and i'm still there, well, depending on the situation, it could be basements and also, er, really abandoned houses were invented for this sleeping bags, my winter is warm, sleeping bags and it’s not cold, it’s good that at least you’re not cold, please tell me about the weight of a woman, it’s stupid to talk, but i can’t help but say that you weigh less than 50 kg , thin little one, you’re wearing a lot of ammunition, how many kilograms do you carry on a daily basis? well i got on the scales, i don't remember where i found them, but i got

on the scales completely in all my uh, full of my niceness, and it was + 15 kg plus 15 kg to my weight. at first, it was really difficult. well, my back i had pain, but then i get used to everything i realized that somewhere in a week, 1.5 weeks, i already got used to it. well, if i were to say that i didn't feel this weight on me at all, i won't say that, but i just got used to it, but when you're there , you constantly go to the armor anyway, in the evening, the back hurts a lot and it is important to take it off, for example, when you sit down to eat. it is a body armor to give your back a chance to rest. well , when you go to bed, of course, you also take off the body armor. well, someone sleeps in armor, it depends on which region the military serviceman is in. or a serviceman, this is here. now i

took off the bronyuk to talk to you. well, i 'm used to it, i'm saying, you know here, well, we're ukrainians. we can get used to everything, adjust to it. well, the main thing here is to adjust. everything will be fine, except for the bulletproof vest. tell me , because i'm a civilian, i don't understand this. well, apart from the fact that it's the bulletproof vest itself , stores also attach it to it, plus, plus, besides the fact that i have to have a first-aid kit with me, it's a must. it must be fastened either to the bulletproof vest or to legs well there who like someone is comfortable to my feet, not very comfortable at all, plus it is with you that you carry a weapon, a machine gun , well, officers carry pistols, i am not an officer, i am a soldier , so i have a machine gun, i have to constantly carry it because if a military man loses his weapon, it is a problem, i just i can't imagine you, to be honest, with

an automatic machine, you're so thin how do you hold it normally, normally, hold it, i'm saying it again, again, i'm used to it, and you can't go anywhere without it, mmm well, with you, uh, when you go to bed, he too should be there next to you or somewhere there is a specially equipped city for him , eh, yes, plus, there is more to say. what , for example, are there storks, despite the fact that there is a first-aid kit, i still have two tourniquets with me, scissors are also placed there, eh, and more and more i am on my own i don't care about anything , because the more you blame yourself, the harder it is for you. listen, holding a machine gun is good, but at the front you need to be able to use it. you've been on the front line for several months, and before that you went through training, i know. please tell me how many weeks this training lasted. is it possible

a month and how exactly it went. why did you study there? and what are you already doing right before the day before? well, in general, about weapons, i still know how to shoot . no, but i didn't, i went to the dash in civilian life. well, for some reason i liked it, and then, of course, there were. my training lasted for almost three weeks, and there we were taught all this and tactical medicine, topography and psychology, and of course we had we went to training grounds and at those training grounds we were taught to hold weapons to load there to reload to shoot why did we learn, i won’t say that, well, they let you shoot a lot during the training, no, but well, when i already came here, of course, the military personnel are also constantly

training, constantly learning, uh, here already well, there is more opportunity to learn well, in principle, in i'm fine with a weapon, i'm hm, i own a weapon, i understand that they have a machine gun that must always be on the safety so that, god forbid, you don't shoot someone there and that no one shoots you, this is a technique, a safety technique, and it's not necessary, you can't forget it it's true about cleaning, i don't like it. if we go there, shooting at us is a must. well, then you have to clean your weapon. and it takes a long time and oh, and it's very difficult, so you have to clean it so that you have special oil with you and with that oil you rub everything there with a rag, well, it’s been a long time. you haven’t had to use a machine gun yet, not for training. no, you haven’t had to. nastya, tell me in the zsu

now. about 50 already, more than 50,000 women are actually serving in your battalion. how many women are there? you’re not the only one there, so what if i'm not wrong five times we are scattered in different regions there, we hardly cross each other, uh, there are five of us, there are women of different professions, that is, there are our doctors and cooks. well, how can i ask the king, what are your direct duties as a press secretary, work with journalists, work mass media means, that is, i have to ensure that journalists come here, i have to do everything to ensure that the shooting is safe for them there, to follow them so that they don't go somewhere in the wrong place, because we understand that kharkiv oblast has a lot of territory there, yes, in kharkiv oblast

we freed the armed forces of ukraine, but the russians left behind a lot of mines in these petals, in which they are simply called darkness , because it is clear that our military constantly inspects the entire area there, cleans everything, but it is impossible, it is impossible to take everything from there, and it is always scary for me that one of the journalists went somewhere wrong and god forbid it blows up . i follow them, i always say so , follow me clearly on the path, and they go by themselves, i look, i think , lord, even if god forbid, i don't step on them, well, i have to i have to do it, everything was safe with them, i am organizing the work. well, we drive there, well, to those places where they would not have gone without me. well, this is how you already drive a car. i will note that before the full-scale war, i was only studying and did not

have much experience now i understand that you practice to the fullest. but i practice to the fullest because here we have to cross pontoon crossings , we drive off-road. and i know how to drive a car here, and then i will come to kyiv. it is probably just at the level of chumak , friends. i'll say that well, i'll speak for myself, that is, i can't say it's all his women, i won't tell me that it's hard for me here, no, on the

contrary, angelica, men cook for me, even because of this, they help in everything, there's something to transfer the heavy somewhere there if it is necessary to take it there let me know something, even now i have arrived and i say yes, i have an interview with angelica for me, let 's do everything for me, they here sterling turned everything on for me so that i could have a connection, i was able to chat with you, they will make coffee there for a guest. something well, m- m of work and attention is enough oh, i just really thought that at the front, there can be three ways of treating a woman, maybe you can correct me , the first is so neutral and even, as in principle, probably correct, the second is that she told me about the projects, so thrifty, caring, maybe from to deny a woman some difficult tasks, to provide

her more security, and thirdly, it is so sexist, they say that women have no place at the front, but you have such a thing. and what else did you hear from my brothers about the same thing ? i say, well, wait, start if i want to come back now, i am voluntarily mobilized, i can't right now, just oh, i'm bored. goodbye. i'm gone, we're all now serving until victory. that is, i'm already here saying that. hello, please show more respect to well, don't talk to me like that uh well, these are such isolated cases, of course, without this, angelika, without this, no way, i have also encountered this. when i came to the military commissariat, i came. you forgot what you are here, you know where you are going, as they told me. when i already passed the military commissariat medical commission, the doctor told me that you went to

war . i gathered myself, i say well, yes, and he says yes, they are shooting there. and i tell him yes, i will call the police if there is shooting there. i was just joking. well, i am just going to let the colonel bring me in, and they took me to the colonel. be there on your information front, hmm, but here are such moments, if at all well, i thought about it, that is, about getting into the army. i thought for about three years, uh. fear, incomprehensibility, how will i be able to be there, will i be able to withstand it psychologically? well, you came up with so many possibilities, because i don't remember you talking about it, i didn't talk about it, i thought about it, that is, these were my thoughts thoughts thoughts

thoughts and then at some point i realized what you have to stop thinking and act, and that's why when i had already made up my mind, when i had already set myself up and when they started rejecting me at the military commissariat and um, there were some of my friends who knew. that is, you, do you remember? that i'm going to the army, that is, i didn't tell anyone because i knew that you all would reject me and at that moment i wanted them to tell me there nastya i'm proud of your choice there good afternoon we will help you there with something, yes, i wanted these to hear the words, and as a result, the military commissariat rejected me even when i was already in school, that is, there was no way back. i couldn't just go home. well, if i got into school, there's only one way. it's to join my brigade, then even there they refused, everyone refused, go home and well, because i'm a woman. i'm a woman.

i still have to give birth, this is the argument. i understand that i am a woman, i have to give birth, and in the future it is possible that i will give birth to one or two children , god willing, how many will it be? fair i solved these problems. but before that i came , well, when. after training, i came and joined my battalion and my brigade as a whole. i didn't have a mirror to look at myself , so i went and tightened my belt, and then when i had the opportunity to look around, i saw that i have this shoulder where the shoulder should be,

my pants hang down to the elbow. it's very short here then, here, here, natalia had to be pulled down like this 15 times so that the pants wouldn't fall, the flowers were almost up to our knees, and that's how i realized that i look like, well, you know, there are beautiful military personnel who put up photos of me there is definitely a distance, yes, someone is there, someone there once took a picture of me and i thought it would be now. and what should i do? well, if it is easier for men, for example, but they were given a form, if it didn't fit them, they left, they just changed it to another , gave them a different size and they all went away happy there is no such thing for women here, i found the smallest uniform size and it did not fit me at all, uh,

right, there is no approved female uniform, and they are just developing it, and in fact, if it were not funny, but it is already laughter through tears, because we have the ninth i will remind you of the year of the war, not nine months ago, somehow it is very strange why women have always been at the front for so many years, they did not develop this women's uniform underpants excuse me socks well, for example, socks made of linen, that's all my men are given the only thing that i should remove thermal underwear and do you know what kind of stripes i have here in the groin area, man? well, it’s not a problem, honestly, it’s not a problem to buy because each of the military personnel receives money on the card, that is, i buy everything for myself, it’s an abnormal provision, that’s all one thing from the state

is elementary things. it's elementary and it's not like that because how can it not be like that. i agree because it's really the ninth year of the war, the 9th year of the war and there were always women in the army and if i can't wear my things there that i fit yes and leave should not be we have a pixel military uniform. well , there were just moments like that. for example, they let me go . there are shops there, all kinds of military shops, i think. well, i’ll buy them there. i’m coming, but there are no sizes there either. well, there are no sizes, it’s a good thing that there are volunteers. for example, volunteers who took up by sewing women's uniforms i accidentally came across them on instagram, i immediately wrote to you, i want to order uniforms from you . pants but if in civilian life, short pants are

a fashion for jeans, you know that it's fashionable to the bone, in the army it's cold, well, really, you, especially now it's already cool, i can't be fashionable here, a little beauty, because i'm here you have to dress normally and it turns out that hmm, by accident, i came across this page, uh, they offered me that they could send this uniform for free, i didn’t refuse, i didn’t say no, i’ll buy it from you, because i understand that they themselves collect money for the uniforms for women that they sew, and i paid for this form 2,200 is the price cost price, i.e. i paid for the fabric for the work, they didn't charge me. that is, well, that's how i got a woman's uniform. in fact, once again, no one wants to raise the issue. there, no one wants to somehow dispel treason, but winter clothes are even men's . as far as i know, the servicemen are still not provided for, although the government allocated funds for this. but why

was there such a late reaction with orders from the state? well, it’s not clear, everything is due to volunteers, everything is due to international organizations, it’s somehow very strange, strange, strange, but i don’t know the explanation. because there is such a problem, the winter uniform is not there yet, but well, for example, well, as we were promised that it will be here in two weeks, that is, they are already writing this uniform, they are embroidering it, it will reach us soon, but it is specifically for there of our battalion is because, well, we are served here by very good people who really fight, who negotiate there, who spend a lot of time, energy and energy on this. i don't know how it is in other battalions . again there was size there it won't be the same with shoes, nastya,

hygiene products are actually a big problem, you said about dry shampoo, but it's already a certain luxury for yourself, because volunteers can give it to you, but the state doesn't provide women with hygiene products in particular. i understand correctly, but i don't even know if it's hygiene products, well, that's what i was going to do when i left. yes, i bought all the shampoos and sanitary napkins. well, everything is there somewhere that everyone can understand . volunteers. it helps me when they transport me. i try to give it to everyone. someone leaves a little and i share it with everyone. well, i don’t know, hmm , should the state provide us with these hygiene products? well, i think that we will definitely buy it ourselves . we may have some other problems. what other

problems are possible that are not voiced like that in general, but you noticed for yourself that women lack this form of clothing, clothes, everything. more such problems, honestly, everything is fine. ok, then let's move on to this one, probably the most painful, and the question for you is this war connected with a personal tragedy. i think the whole of ukraine, everyone knows your love story with oleksandr makhov, your fiancé, who unfortunately died on the fourth of may this year in the village of dovgenke in kharkiv oblast. happened where did this tragedy

happen i will not ask you how to survive these mountains because i know that you did not survive i will not ask atb how to cope with this pain because i know that it still hurts you very much i i will ask you how to live with this grief and with this pain , because it is important that you give some advice from your experience to those women or families who also lose sons, husbands and daughters, anyway, well, with cymbals there, i continue to live, i wake up with, i don't know, i'm there every minute all the same, um, i’m going to proceed uh, it’s just uh, it’s not worth it. at this point, i understand that i myself am very fixated on this - fixated, but still, i try to

somehow distract myself with some things and do something because um, if i shut myself off from all of you from the support of the people of your loved ones and in particular because you, angelica, supported me very much and support me, it would probably be more difficult for me if i sat at home and kept it all to myself, but i had it for 20 days, i was 21 days, three weeks, but i had it after the burial i just went to my sister in zaporizhzhia, my native place. and i sat there with my little nephew, but i realized that i can't do that because it hurts so much and it's so difficult, and i realized that i just need to return to life in civilization, that is, i needed to meet with friends i returned to

i tried to arrange some small joys for myself there, small trips, i allowed myself this, and it distracted me and burdened me, so i came up with many, many things for myself for the day, i just went home and went to bed without energy because i would be very tired so , so, i got through the first part, and then i realized that hmm, i want to be among the heroes, among the heroes, among the military, who later became brothers and sisters, and that's why i went on to the army, nastya. excuse me right away, my question can it sounds like a bad idea, but i'm not asking you as a friend, as a journalist. i just know that you were always

brave, even before a full-scale war, and such a purposeful, very stubborn girl in a good way, but when did you decide to go to war, first of all, that's the first your feelings. it was bravery or a state of affect from the loss, maybe it seemed so to me. to be honest, the first moments when i found out about it were that you were looking for danger for yourself. i wanted to be where sasha was and feel what he went through. i didn't come here to look for death, that's what i want to die, it's true because i have a lot of plans for this life. well, for now, these plans are related to the fact that the memory of my sashka will appear later and for me some, well, they are already

appearing little by little. that's right, but i didn't come here to die. i definitely don't want to die. i don't want to look for death, but i have a dulled fear. i won't say that it's cool here. it shouldn't be like that because there should be an instinct for self-preservation . when something flies you hear it must fall that is, i have it, but i won't say what er, i have no fear at all, no, it is there, but this fear is dulled, er, well, the instinct of self-preservation is present to me. so, when i hear something flying, when i hear some exits or something else, uh, i fall to the ground