zno with marriage thank you thank you i am very pleased masha is here too masha is with us during the war we saw a lot of manifestations of people around us and maybe we just made conclusions and realized that well in this world you can not find so many good good people whom you will love , who will love you and whom you will be able to trust , this is the most important thing - the most important thing for today whom you can trust and the war made it all clear and emphasized how did this war change you in terms of outlook, internally you felt different as a person, of course, i felt like a different person, but i am not sure that this deformation, transformation has already happened, it is happening and will continue to happen until the end, the war will not end because

three months ago i was different, now something new has been added and something will be added a little later, you have grown up did you get tougher or on the contrary did you become more sensitive? no, i'm tougher, i definitely can get tougher, and this is additionally connected precisely with volunteering, because there well, you ca n't be soft and sympathetic, so i was i sympathize with the fact that you are helping me with this volunteer work for the first time in my life. yes, people were shouting at the press on the territory. we are coming. they are just like bees. are not guilty of this and you stand and shout at them because you understand that this is the only way you can achieve some kind of discipline, it is very

breaking internally and i arrived there after the first trips in such a state because i was very nervous and therefore if comprehensively, and i will be tougher in the end, oleksandr, let's think about victory day of ukraine, how will you celebrate, what will you do first, i still really hope that i will have such an opportunity to perform my solo concert again in a packed hall, and this hall will be located in mariupol, ukraine, on the mariupol drama theater has been restored, and if i do not do this until the end of my life, you can call me kirk after my death

, and we already understand how completely different our new life will be. after this, i have no doubt that the ambulance we will be grateful to the armed forces of ukraine, we will believe in them and support them each on their own front . thank you for your position. this was my story. and today we listened to the story of oleksandr kryvoshapko

, a word that says that the cossacks are of the race. the last victory of light and truth with faith is not to give up. sign up to volunteer, because there is someone like you. dignity is a

choice to voluntarily change the stage or the microphone. nicholas, dignity is something that is sealed with blood and deeds with by the lives of the heroes of the constitution of your country, to be worthy is to be ukrainian, take care of this priceless treasure, given to you from birth, let us be worthy of our heroes, it all starts with the team , fire with fire, they destroy the enemy with fire, they pave the way for our brothers with fire, they bring our victory closer from the cossack harps and to this day, our artillerymen are real gods of war . glory to the missile forces and artillery of ukraine, children

should grow up in a family, that's why ukraine resumes the adoption procedure during martial law. ukrainians living in ukraine can adopt a child in the controlled territory, at the same time, children have the right to be adopted not only at their place of permanent residence, but from now on at the place of temporary evacuation within ukraine. you can get to know a child who is waiting for adoption by referring the service for children, register for a free consultation and submit documents on the action portal or contact the regional service for children's affairs every child wants to have a dad and a mom maybe she is waiting for the rules of a warm country household appliances electrical appliances plugged in they consume energy in sleep mode. thank you for

turning off devices that we do not use. let's beat the winter together. congratulations, this is a column. accent. my name is oleksiy fadeev . on november 18, prime minister denys shmygal announced that russia disabled almost half of ukraine's energy system. the first mass rocket attack on infrastructure facilities took place on the 10th since october, ukrainians have even become accustomed to regular , sometimes chaotic, power outages, and with their onset, the thesis of a difficult and, most likely, decisive winter for ukraine in 22-23 years, became a special what a hot question about the restoration of the energy infrastructure about the autonomous provision of households about the safety of nuclear facilities and

whether it is possible to rebuild the system in order to remove its vulnerability with all this array of questions we will try to figure it out with the help of our guests, this is serhiy nagornyak, a people's deputy, a member of the committee on energy and of housing and communal services greetings greetings and yuriy korolchuk expert of the institute of energy research good by the way thank you thank you so gentlemen let's start and the first question is a little bit i will put it bluntly, if one of you did not, god forbid, would you be putin, would you be satisfied with this military company regarding the destruction of the ukrainian energy infrastructure, well, look, i don’t think that you should be afraid if you think about how they think in russia, how should the president of russia, putin , including yes, and all the more so to really evaluate the actions that took place in ukraine, here we have missile strikes specifically on the energy infrastructure, that is, the infrastructure that provides heat supply,

water supply. also, we have seen, that is, well, it is difficult of course, understand how putin thinks, of course, but at least whether they are satisfied or not is probably rather a measure of the damage that was caused . distribution of electricity, that is, and transportation, to put it clearly for the audience, that is, the impossibility of actually delivering to consumers the amount of electricity they need, that is, we can actually produce this electricity, so are you satisfied with that? dissatisfied here, there is no such unambiguous boundary . that is, generation, that is, the production of electricity, atomic power plants, warm electric hydroelectric power plants, so they can produce electricity in the amount that is, in principle , necessary. the only problem is how to deliver it to consumers, and i think that in russia they also definitely knew why they were there that this is not confidential information, it is closed, it is public, moreover, it is often about, well, i wanted to say projects. these are the ones that

have already been implemented, the construction of substations, which were closer to the planned ones, were actually built in of the soviet union, yes. that is, all these materials are also in russia and are repeated in principle. we live today in conditions of modern openness, that is, there are space opportunities, yes, satellites. therefore, we should not be surprised, we should really think about how to protect us, including this infrastructure and how to prevent possible future strikes because we see that they continued like this, that is, at first everyone thought that you know it's like once, twice, and there won't be a third time there, so we see that this is a problem that needs to be solved about sergey, do you agree that a certain influence on the ukrainian energy system , russia did dare and managed to do it, you know, if we go back to the first question, i think that the enemy is enjoying all this damage that you are doing to us today in ukraine, because we see that they have such a sick imagination and a sick approach to in general, to life there, every harm they

bring to ukrainians is whether they destroy kindergartens or schools, or kill people who rape ukrainian women, or kill e-e. it just harms our energy infrastructure there. most likely pleasure yes and every such a senseless action er-e it brings them pleasure more than anything ukrainian society is trying to induce a desire to put pressure on the authorities so that the authorities agree on this with the russians, but we understand that they still cannot fully understand the logic of ukrainians that ukrainians are not ready to agree on anything, ukrainians are ready to talk about peace after that when the last russian soldier will leave the territory of ukraine. this is from crimea and donbass and

luhansk, and then we can talk about some kind of peace after all the operations have been paid, that's why it won't work for them, they will cause us some inconvenience, but it won't give them a strategic there are no advantages, sirs . let's look back at the issue of damage, is there any kind of effectiveness, if we said so at one time, the russians, as far as i remember , fired at our railway facilities, but they abandoned that matter simply because they fired at us repaired and here two processes go in parallel and our people repaired in principle everything is fast our craftsmen yes and now it’s actually a race too i have such and such terminology, well, look, i think that it is necessary to

evaluate from the position, but we cannot do it here now, the military, that is, the capabilities of the russian military, that is, these missile strikes, because we often hear such thoughts, yes, the missiles have run out, but they are because yes, you can’t know unequivocally, it’s safe to assume that they’ve already run out, so there aren’t any since the war. how many missiles are needed to really destroy the infrastructure? well, we’re talking about the energy structure. so, this is an open question. what can we say, it’s difficult to do. yes, that’s understandable. that even the rockets that were launched so that they were achieved unfortunately for their goals so brought destruction so really repairs are taking place there you give an analogy with a railway in fact in the case of er, with generation, not with generation, but with distribution systems, that is, what actually transports electricity, in principle it is possible to repair it, but you understand that we cannot divide operational repair and deep repair, that is, operational repair is implemented yes, but unfortunately, again, it does not allow i will repeat to the full extent to return to people why people are faced with hiv disconnection with forced emergency emergency emergency

and in fact well, what are the different names of stabilization now? what word will they come up with anyway power outage and unfortunately this is the best option, you know, i will tell you yes, even when people are often urged that they should save from the fact that it is so desired, yes, from the fact that it is the best option for the actual preservation of the infrastructure and the opportunity to repair it, but let’s say so , you say how much time they have, so they destroyed it, so you know, we live, that is, they destroyed it they rebuilt it, so how long can it last is a question of its own, which yes, it is simply wrong to think that it can last indefinitely, because this is an infrastructure that requires modern equipment and repair materials, we see that this problem has already been drawn very specifically, let's say, significantly so that the european union helps us there, and the private company, they all also use their capabilities, and we must understand that this resource is not there because we are taking away, for example

, unheard-of equipment, there is nothing wrong with that it is normal if it is an absolutely logical process , because the new equipment that is present often needs to be ordered, it needs to be produced, and there is no time anymore, it can only be obtained in the spring and in the summer, for example, and this is the problem that we are facing today, because it needs to be restored. of the previous state of this distribution network, well roughly speaking yes, earlier a million kw passes today passes 500,000 kw here 500,000 kw here is the fact that we are sitting in the dark as a result yes here viewers also used to popularize problems yes so let's say er so that this doesn't happen so, in any case, it must be understood that er, either the number of military strikes should be reduced, that is, the conclusion is this or, accordingly, the amount of materials should be increased, as they are involved for repairs, and plus it is possible even if there is physical help. that is, it is also the workers. maybe even we don’t know. we will see something like this. well, god forbid that this should not happen like this. but including help if ugu energetikov has a personnel reserve and people

leave for repairs, and they can be re- used. to fly in and it's if, in addition to all the high moral feelings of ours, all of this can potentially create a shortage of personnel. god forbid, i repeat your words . now we need help well, in general, this is not the thesis of mr. yuriy, but simply the objective reality that we need the help of partners, that we cannot manage it ourselves, we will now receive generators, for example, from germany for the last one, how much is that 90 for 19 in november, i have the fact that germany is recorded here i installed almost two and a half thousand generators in ukraine, this is definitely good, but first of all, it seems to me that i am a person who is far from electricity. well, only in a household sense, but it seems that 2,500

generators . in general, in order to effectively restore at least restore i am not yet saying to rebuild the energy infrastructure in ukraine well, in my opinion, we definitely need to start from somewhere else and our international partners, no matter how much international partners help generators or transformers, which they also do not have, unfortunately, shadow transformers, which we need large capacity there, 750 mw, 330 mw, 110, unfortunately, they and our european partners are not available so that they can physically give them to us or bring them to us physically, they do not have na in my opinion , we still need to keep the focus of our international partners precisely on air defense and air defense means, because no matter how many generators and transformers we supply, the enemy can be destroyed in one day, the last one is there

the bombardment of rockets that happened a few days ago was not launched in ukraine near starokyd of them there, according to my information, about 27 rockets were landed , they just hit the objects of critical culture and they cause billions of damage, one such substation costs billions of hryvnias and it takes time to build it, our energy engineers today make the impossible really possible. if you compare it to the same thing people did there in the first hour of the full-scale invasion on february 24-25, when they stopped with their bare hands in chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast tanks are the same today, our energy engineers work there, they do those things in a day or in half a day or in two, what is usually peace time, it takes weeks for that, they just don’t stop around the clock, repair crews, emergency crews, it’s like the ukrenergo brigade, yes brigades of private oblivnergo and state oblenergo today, they are all

companies that work in the energy sector. they are also today all connected to help and they understood that installing a transformer there with a capacity of 750 mw will take time, but they make temporary jumpers there, turn on the light. for this, they also turn off the emergency ones, they make a shutdown so that the system does not fail more than once , because we have how much to produce, how much to consume, and the dispatcher of ukrenergo, they see, uh, the exact balance there, the balance yes, they need to maintain this balance, so in my opinion, first of all, we need air defense, not generators, but air defense, the more air defense there is, the less damage there will be, secondly, we still need high-power transformers, it is clear that this will take some time yes, and there are countries and western countries that do not produce them so much, but they exist and we need generators, of course, but we need to understand how many of them there are. we can use this generator to cover only the

critical infrastructure of hospitals, schools . teplokomunenergo somewhere so that the pumps work, we will not be able to physically provide every high-rise building in the city of kyiv or in any other city with generators, as well as private households, because not all physically have a resource, and secondly, it is very expensive because we pay for electricity compared to the cost of fuel for generators, we pay pennies, we pay 10 times cheaper, in addition to the fact that we have a moratorium on raising prices, it is military time, and therefore in principle to say that it is market-justified yes such a price is not such a yes and please tell me well, household consumers, you and i are just like citizens who live somewhere and also need electricity to charge a mobile phone there or to turn on a light bulb there is one story but as far as i understand, it is logical that the main

consumer is industry, and industrial enterprises consume much more than households, that industry because of these problems with energy. i don't know how much we should expect a fall or decline, or if there is a possible crisis, what do you think, well, look, i think it's difficult to measure unequivocally today let's put it this way, what will be the losses for enterprises, they will be because clearly why because, again, the lack of electricity also affects them yes , of course, in principle, in peacetime there is the predictability of electricity consumption is really a balancing act, i.e. every enterprise is a large consumer of electricity, roughly speaking, it is more accurate oblenergo and the producer of electricity. moreover, our market was like that. in this, but i will tell you that, in principle, in the conditions of a usually peaceful state, some kind of emergency situation bc, but even often,

as now, such a word is used in different ways scale, yes, according to the protocol, in principle, in the beginning, they just limit the industry, that is, and the population already in the meantime, well, this is a social sphere, after all, well, social responsibility if uh, and even more so hospitals there, for example, what is it at all if it goes ? now they have generators and also well, most of them, uh, although these are still temporary things, generators temporarily, they save the situation, yes, the industry itself, yes. as far as i know, after those first strikes, which were on october 10 and then the following ones, yes, then, in principle, the question was it is partially resolved, that is, the industry was still provided in the first place and this is correct. in my opinion, because in any case i remember how in march when everything is there let's say yes, well , it was if there was a certain panic, for example, and business also did not know that do work don't work and then there was a position in principle of the government and the president and the government that there should be economic activity, that is, it should be restored and here, too, this issue is acute .

they live in a period of war and martial law, and that is why even this power outage, even if it is for the industry to get all that electricity so that a person has to go to work and work. so i am silent about the fact that these products were produced, got on the counter there or exported money earned money, paid taxes, that's all important, yes, in any case, it's difficult to repeat today, it's hard to say what kind of losses there are because it's actually going on. well, it's been going on like this for more than a month. will be built by each enterprise, it is difficult to say the number unequivocally so far, but in general, if it is a little philosophical, such a question is in the modern world, but if i ask you how much the country's economy depends on energy, you will say 100%. well, look, uh, electric wires, yes, what line is the transmission of gas, wires, oil pipelines, these are such things, even the bloody courts of the economy of the economy, that is, blood, if there is no such thing, unfortunately, if a person loses his life, so does the state, if there is no

economy, industry, that is what we say so it is it will be very difficult to survive, that is, to exist like this, apart from the help that we usually receive in these scraps in general, a-a p sergey, you said that air defense is the best, the best guarantee that everything will be fine in our country. what do you think are our chances of closing the sky so tightly, as we asked back in march? i think that we should prove to our partners the thesis about the energy crisis by the fact that the lack of a sufficient amount of ppp will fall on their pockets as well er because we understand what we turn to our partners and the so-called rammstein created today is already energetic and everything needs to be invested, it is better to invest funds to our international partners to protect the ukrainian sky so that they provide us with a sufficient

number of anti-aircraft missiles so that we try to shoot them all down so that 70% are not there. 60 we break 30% achieve their goals we need to work with them even more because, in my opinion, international partners often react to such bad things when the city of kyiv flies there for civilian purposes there are victims of the infrastructure, then they are more worried and they will decide tomorrow morning that they need to get together and still give plus two ppu cars. yes, there is more. sorry for interrupting . international partners react to such things as you rightly said . food security, for example , to what extent do we have the ability to ensure global food security, to what extent is it dependent on our energy sector, and 100% yes 100% today i am a deputy, maybe

a majority deputy from the cherkasy region is worth it. we have a district in which i was elected. it is almost entirely rural and many enterprises are engaged in the cultivation of grain crops , and today they have the number one problem, they need to collect they collect corn, but they need to dry it, and to dry it, they need electricity , because even if they work on gas, but without electricity , they cannot work. electricity, the whole economy is actually dependent on the fact that they bring great harm to the economy, well, that is exactly. this fact is present and we will not count it today. but i think that these numbers are quite large, and mr. yuri, first of all, is there any chance or opportunity at all the technical possibility of strengthening the power system itself . well, for example, the president talked about the development of

some kind of parallel network. well, we can't, we don't even know the details. this is this. and we need to modernize our electricity system, the electricity market, in principle , was started for this with such a goal, well, look , in fact, you need to understand that if you build a parallel system, you need to understand that it is this system that exists today, and it is so optimal, it is quite strong and powerful and, in principle, even one of the heads of private companies. if he was actually assessing the situation of missile strikes, including his own company, he gave such an assessment, and i can agree with him and it is a correct assessment. by the way, at least it is honest that the system that was built by the soviet union. so , in principle, it also anticipated military risks, that is, the soviet union did not face military risks on the territory of ukraine, but it built and anticipated, accordingly, the production of electricity generation, well , separately for industry, it was more from the same substation as a transmission link and backup lines that exist. that is, we will now use this

literally so and said that it is actually today if it gives us this opportunity to pass the war period like this otherwise let's say if it wasn't so extensive yes this system yes and actually well it's not perfect but it's quite strong yes if and that's why it can only be improved let's say like this so for example if the president talked about certain projects there so that can be proposed yes basically this can apply, for example, to individual lines, which transmission can go, for example, underground, for example, as an option, this is also possible. it can be implemented in principle, now everyone is trying very interestingly. this question is possible to bury the line of electric trains of course, everything can be done like this, only it will be time, first of all, you understand the money, well , it is already expediency, the truth, well, economically, the expediency will be possible in that it will be at least preservation and there will be no possibility of defeat, for example, military defeat in the first place, but temporarily war martial law i think this is a project, it has no possibility to be realized. that is, it is only in the case when the war ends like this, and it can then

be built in this way in the future. but i repeat, it will be an addition to the system that in we have an electric one precisely because it is in such a good condition that it needs to be modernized because it is getting old and has long since solved this one question, but if everything can be done, and by the way, is a major modernization needed, for example , in connection with the pre-war synchronization of our energy system with the eu energy system. we needed to do some kind of modernization or a purely technical e-e. no, we are talking about the internal system , that is, the transmissions that go directly to the consumers and the same high-voltage lines, at least ukrenergo yes. they received funds from ibr, for example, the world bank, they did it partially at their expense. yes, but that’s exactly what if the line leading to the consumer, well, those transformers that are there somewhere in a conditional village there in the city. yes, of course, yes, that’s all it is necessary to change it to modernize it, and for this it is repeated in veterinary medicine, i thought about it, but on the other hand, it is a question of the price of electricity, that is, in any case, it is that freezing, you correctly

said yes, it is definitely conditional on the state of war no one even doubts that this is the right decision, because you people simply could not pay the high price and the economic situation is so difficult. and the price will be higher, by the way, about saving electricity, this is also the case if the price was higher, then people would, i think, save money themselves the decision when yes yes before that well but this is a culture this is a developed culture this is about it years go by again or the price should be so much higher well yes in europe people save money because either i will pay as you stick the card in the meter or well the prices are such that saving happens automatically, otherwise there will be no food, what panova, please tell me, uh , it happened recently, i would even say that panic swept through social networks, this is when the mayor of kyiv, mr. klitschko, said that in the event of a playout, it means 3 million kyivans can be evacuated i understand that he simply named one of the options, so everyone got terribly excited about it, someone was having trouble