and yes, you rightly said that this is a very difficult reform. because there is no obvious enemy here, that is, it is enough here when arsen avakov was in the position of the minister of internal affairs. that is happening in the law enforcement system of ukraine, there is no such thing here but you can't say that lviv is bad and let's deal with him, i hear. there is one pavlo the bad wolf, let's deal with him, unfortunately, the judicial system of ukraine has been overgrown with matia for decades overgrown with corruption, plagued by a lack of integrity, and so on. that is why it is a very difficult reform. lviv is not yet a year old. the judicial system,

oh , the judge, love is a consequence. absolutely yes and why now it depends on all of us now how much we will be how effectively we will act and talk about the need for reform the need to deprive bohdan lviv of ukrainian citizenship so that he has no chance hold any position in the judicial system of ukraine through the oasis not through the oasis any way thank you very much ms. maryna for what you do for your e-e anti-corruption activity and work on reforms that are very difficult but important and necessary for us in the same european integration in first of all, marina khromykh , the executive director of the dure foundation, was with us, and we are going further, a little later, ivan plachkov will join us, we will talk about turning off the lights and the situation with energy in general.

townspeople, those who live in high-rise buildings, look for a place in the village. especially since now all cities are part of territorial communities, to which one way or another at least a few e-e villages are adjacent, that is, they go to the warehouse, there is somewhere to go and develop agriculture , you went to the village of course well, that's all igor checherinka will go to the village tomorrow and we will work and i will feed you, the village feeds the city ukrainian president zelenskyi has already commented on the killing of babies by the russians in vilnyansk, he said that the terrorist state continues to fight against civilians wrote about it. he reminded the president on facebook that a baby woman was killed as a result of a rocket attack on the maternity ward of the vilnia hospital. i understand his mother, there are probably more people under the rubble. the occupiers fired at a high-rise building and a polyclinic, and two people died in kupyansk, one person was hospitalized at all services are working in places, the enemy has again decided to try with terror and

murder and achieve what he has not been able to achieve for 9 months and will not be able to achieve, he wrote to the president and will only be responsible for all the evil he has brought to our the country was written by volodymyr zelenskyi, well, after registering his message with photos from kupyansk and vilnyansk, our next guest is already ivan plachkov, minister of fuel and energy of ukraine in 1999 from 5 to 2006, chairman of the council of the union of the all-ukrainian energy assembly. good health to ivan good health. we will see everyone's health even sooner than later. let's talk about what we have. yes, these points of invincibility were announced by the president . they concern power outages, how will they differ from heating points, well, the situation. we

know that a lot of equipment has been damaged. now the power industry is restoring it, but the question arises of financing the order of equipment. 50% and destroyed especially this equipment is a transformer, transformers, switches that manufactured it is enough a dollar ago, uh, uh, we have already talked many times about what is possible the blackout lasts well enough for a week, two, maybe even three, because it is being created. these are the ways of heating in the cities that will have to be equipped with diesel generators and

special heaters. zero electricity so that you can wait in that period until the power supply is restored, but i would advise everyone to do the same for this period, there are friends, relatives, acquaintances in the villages so that you can move at this time cities and wait this period until they restore well if well, i am sure that our glorious anti-aircraft defense will protect energy infrastructure facilities and already such large-scale destruction will be devastating. but in a month, i think that the energy industry

will restore the infrastructure as much as possible and we will move on from such emergency shutdowns of shutdowns emergency to scheduled wind shutdowns, and we need to do it, that's why. why? because that's the coal that's in the warehouses of power plants, it will be enough for such an average winter, so we should save as much as possible. electricity as fuel to get us through the winter, even if it will be cold, mr. ivan . please tell me as an energy engineer. for example, how long does it take for pipes to freeze in a classic nine-story building under a panel building at a temperature of -10, for example, i mean, what's the point we have to wait , i.e. what can be the intervals without light and

heat until the moment when it is already necessary to drain the water from all of the multi-apartment buildings, i.e. how much time passes from the moment the lights and heat are turned off to the moment the pipes freeze and burst yes, the question is absolutely correct, and we are here. i remind you that i say this many times, probably on all the broadcasts. it depends on the temperature -5 -10 -10 , for example. it is possible to leave these houses with water, therefore, i absolutely recommend the council and the local authority of the mayor of the city so that every building, every building, regardless of whether it is a residential building or an administrative building or something else, because it is special people, one person who knows the scheme and

if we see that -10°, and uh, he should know scheme and shut off the coolant supply and drain the water from the internal point of the home heating system. because in some cities, for example, there may be no glass on the roofs in the basements, etc. this can happen even faster. and if somewhere one part freezes and e- god forbid that the metal is cracking there and we won't be able to start this building until it is repaired. and during this time, it will happen in other cities, it will definitely happen if the heat carrier stops and we know that it will be for several hours. better closed drain the water, and if the system is intact, then start

the coolant, that's it, it's very fast, it can be done there half an hour, an hour ago, what do we need to prepare for this, and how do you personally assess the readiness of the system at the current moment housing and communal services are for such extreme cases, god forbid. what will happen ? well, we have to be ready for them. of course, we faltered, what do you know? these are the past years, peaceful times. we remember. yes, we are preparing . now the relationship is more scrupulous, and the heads of the cities and the regions of the administration understand this danger and the appropriate work is being carried out

. there should be an appropriate list of these models, people who answer even under the e-e painting so that they know, so that it is more responsible, so it is advertisements there is, everyone knows that, women, enter, but i think that it is necessary to do more, well, if it is bureaucratic, because it should be done for that to be bigger responsibility, mr. ivan, what is the current situation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, according to your information, maybe they said that the main equipment is key whole, but there is extensive damage , what exactly is damaged there? well, there is auxiliary equipment, an auxiliary system heating

, this is not the first circuit, and there was a damaged pipeline, there was a leak of water. well, it is not radioactive, and in general, the situation there is very dangerous, why did it threaten, because it is clear how many of our ukrainian personnel know about it how many russian personnel work there at the zaporizhia nuclear power station, and that's why i said many times that the main thing is that our personnel stay there, let them sign whatever they want. let them take russian passports, whatever, just so that they stay at the zaporizhzhia station. why? in order to preserve the equipment of this station, because i think that they will pay for it, they will leave and they will do

everything possible in order to leave this station unrepairable for us and in order for us to dobi day god, so that we cannot exploit them and it will be another chernobyl multiplied by several times, because of the problems of financing and so on, the main thing for us is to preserve this equipment, and there is a lot of role in this, but it is rich and has a mother, and you know, many people are skeptical about the mri mission to the role i am on the contrary. i believe that many do everything that they can, what they can earn, they give us objective information, and the decision about sanctions is already there, i don't know, the pressure on rosatom on russia in general should be done by the governments, uh, rich all said that there is nuclear terrorism, that all seven components that ensure the safety of this work have been violated, and this was done on

fire, and this is already arguments, and it is necessary for the governments of the european countries of the european union, the united states to impose sanctions on e- e in relation to rosatom and if they now think how er is possible and impossible well, there are many such economic issues . zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant and it seems like there will still be such pressure and they might be, well, if not, no, no, they will not do uh, things, uh, damage the equipment, and so on and so on, well, i don't understand why uh, it's not now it is not happening, why are the russians not imposing sanctions on the staff, mr.

ivan? well, yesterday's message from the store, the experts of these organizations did not directly identify threats to nuclear safety after the shelling of the nuclear power plant that occurred on saturday and sunday, the director general of the e.e. rafael rusi said that the experts are a quote were able to to confirm that despite the seriousness of the shelling, the key equipment was not affected, there are no immediate threats to the safety of the nuclear reactors, however, according to russia, the shelling of the nadia plant last saturday was the most serious incident in recent months, at the same time, experts found out that all six reactor units are nuclear fuel storage sites, in particular spent nuclear fuel waste in a stable condition, experts noted numerous destructions in the area of ​​the station, in particular , storage tanks were damaged as a result of shelling condensate from where the leak of non-radioactive materials took place. well, impacts were also recorded on the main road along the reactors, the station, as well as on the disabled railway,

shrapnel damage to the compressed air pipeline, two impacts on the roof of a special auxiliary building, minor visible damage to the sprinkler pipeline, and also two impacts in the area of ​​the guardhouse in general. what do you think? you ask questions and do not answer them. why do you think that personal sanctions against the heads of the rosatom employees of rosatom who are currently at the station, well, now they have cited a lot of conclusions and we will confirm what i said, that i also do my job well, she gives me objective information and according to the statute, she cannot do of political statements, it's ... well, what organization is leading to show the facts or why sanctions are not applied? well, i have my own thoughts on this device,

you know, somewhere around well, i think i'm not wrong, i'll say if 20 out of 5%, uh- e uranium for fuel is concentrated and so on and so on. the united states buys from ros atom because it processes the uranium that is mined in kazakhstan and uzbekistan. we process and prepare it for the production of fuel. e-e and hungary e-e and e-e a lot of russian-made reactors work in the world and these are spare parts and especially the support of e-e work in these objects e-e as a factory by factories that

make these special headphones institutes and so on, i think they took all of this into account and decided that well, i don't know that it's a lesser evil than if they, uh, um, apply uh, sanctions . but it's a pity, it's a pity, it's a pity, i'm sorry, unfortunately, no decision is made. well, i think that they're watching, and the manager's visit is a lot. we remember moscow. i think that's where he went. with such very strong messengers and uh and well i will threatening and very threatening and we know that

there was shelling of the power line at the khmelnytskyi nuclear power station, it stopped and the 750 line was damaged at the rivne station. unfortunately, this kind of terrorism continues. but there is no doubt in my mind that this territory it will be released from zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant will be released, and well, the main thing is that the equipment remains operational, and here are the efforts to create a safety zone, er, er, well, this is very urgent and necessary. well, i think that it will be difficult for us to do this in the near future thank you ivan was paid by our energy expert and in the past the minister of fuel and energy of ukraine. congratulations. thank you for the interesting

information . yes, sir, and to viktor. the preliminary results of yesterday's searches in ukrainian churches that are temporarily rented or occupied by so-called russian priests who may be representatives and intelligence of a foreign country, here is the latest report of the sbu, have you read this information that more than 350 church buildings were thoroughly checked - 850 people and more than fifty people passed in-depth intelligence surveys, including a polygraph, several of them were not even citizens of ukraine, but foreigners, including citizens of the russian federation, who were on the territory of ukrainian objects that temporarily occupied by the russian church, not by the russian church. well, when checking documents, some provided passports and military tickets, even of the old ussr, that is, a person walked with a passport of the ussr in the 22nd year. it’s already the 21st century in general

there were a lot of original documents, some of them only copies , they also had passports of ukrainian citizens with signs of forgery or damage, and now they are additionally checking. well, they also found out. i don’t know if we will show photos of russian literature that was used - was used during studies in the seminary and prikhor schools in including for the propaganda of the russian world well, where would we go without cash in the churches in russian 2 million hryvnias more than 100,000 us dollars several thousand russian rubles your reaction please well we really have nothing well, they didn't find such a thing. it was more of a preventive measure. it was called preventive preventive-preventive. that is, it was done in order to make it clear to this part of the so-called religious organizations that

the times are over . limitless planning in the minds of certain leaders of certain power structures of state authorities, and the time has come, well, i will order to pay the bills, well, at the very least, to be like everyone else, what i mean, do you understand when we really knew about the hiding of those or other people who hid from the law in the so-called monasteries when we asked questions to the leaders of the state, which was lying on the surface. a person walks into any church shop and sees literature that is simply terrifying. yes, there was a message from a journalist who was in transcarpathia and she said that all the literature in the store is in the russian language, according to the

direction, and there is only one in the ukrainian language, which clearly describes how to fight with the kyiv patriarchate, you know, this is the literature of transcarpathia uh, we went to uh, repeatedly, uh, church shops, uh, of any uh, lavra, which is under the control of the moscow patriarchate, and the same. there, we were simply horrified by that, by that mass of literature, which, uh, by that ideological, ideological dirt, which i was looking at the windows of this little shop, so there is nothing strange, they found what they found at the expense of russian citizens, it was known for a long time , so you understand, in the pochaiv lavra , there were simply no citizens of ukraine in recent years, there were citizens of russia and belarus they are moldovans they did not speak the ukrainian language, some spoke with

an accent even in russian, i am talking about the citizens of moldova, that is, the number of citizens of the russian federation has decreased recently, but they have not disappeared, they are and are not only in these masters where it was checked, they do not have the appropriate documents, they do not have the right to stay in the territory of ukraine it all needs to be put in order, it needs to be put in place , such a simple question. it is literally on the surface, you say nothing is surprising, on the one hand, nothing is surprising, and on the other hand, what is surprising is that everyone has seen everyone understood both the people and the representatives of the security service of ukraine, but there was no responsibility, well, that is, they did nothing. everyone understands . that the states and the law enforcement agencies for some reason considered themselves the elite. and the elite should be

in the elitist church, the elitist church is where there is a lot of gold, that's all they have in it. i saw, i don't know, i don't understand you because the church is not gold and not decorations and not some beautiful words of mine to the music, but the church - this is a community of people who should receive spiritual cleansing, and the russian orthodox church gave these people what they needed , you understand, they felt at home there, that is, it was spritna you know, you know, such an organism, and passing from one to another, and until we finally break all these things, you know, i don’t want to remind you that in the 18th year, the president of ukraine awarded for some reason metropolitans of the russian orthodox church in to the state for what well, there was such a situation in and now

such a situation was and has always been such a situation. that is, they always told us the leadership of the state that the previous and the current ones said let's not interfere because this is a very, uh, very, very, very, very, very, very, extremely changing topic, let's let's not rock the boat, there is something else that needs to be rocked, this abscess must be removed surgically because it is not treated, it is not treated, it is not treated with lotions, it is not treated exclusively surgically, as latvia has now done, latvia adopted a law, put before the fact of the moscow patriarchate and closed this topic once and for all. there is no russian orthodox church on the territory of latvia. there is an orthodox church that will now try to get a tomos and the topic of closure. if you want to have your russian, just go to church, pray at home, build a church somewhere in your yard and you gather and

pray there, no one for you, it is not prohibited at the state level of support, er, other states and other state, especially religious structures that support terrorist activities well, definitely not there should be five victors in us, kostenko’s novel, people’s deputy, colonel of the sbu, was included in the previous bloc. he said that including the positive attitude of the previous leadership of the security service of ukraine, ivan bakanov, approved by kostenko, when he came to the meeting of the committee on national security and defense and said that we do not have there is no uoc mp, there is a uoc ukrainian orthodox church, there is no moscow patriarchate, they themselves do not like to call themselves that, and ivan bakanov well, roman kostenko says he was a parishioner of the moscow patriarchate of this uoc without the mp that is why now he is suspended vasyl the kid headed the sbu i don’t know kostenko either i don’t know which parishioner of which church mr. kid is a parishioner has the strategic attitude of the hm

leadership and in general the sbu service itself changed? in general, to this issue of religious after changes in the head of the service in your opinion well, i hope so, because there are moments that really influenced the political decision. how are the so-called politically motivated decisions? personal e submissions for these or other e-e official official performance well performance of official duties and then everything will fall into place in our e problem is really legal in our e e court which should have been e e dissolved a long time ago canceled as a class - this this wolf court, by the way, he blocked the law that clearly regulated the name of this or that

church that if you are related to moscow, then you should be called the moscow patriarchate and there is no need for any obdut here yesterday or when yesterday the press putin's secretary piskov e clearly stated that this attack on the russian orthodox church well, let's not hide if you are, if you are subordinate and you are on the official websites, your faces and you are clearly included in the hierarchy of the moscow patriarchate and you cannot still go out in front of the people and say here is the document, here it is signed, we broke off any relationship, i have nothing to do with it, we don't go there and we don't contact each other, so what are the questions so that you understand that yesterday the women's benefit monastery is located in the rivne region this is a monastery

which is directly subordinated to the moscow patriarchate in the direction of the patriarch gundyaev, that is, in order for some bishop of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate to serve, there must be a personal permission of the gundyaev , and now that is, imagine that there is a monastery on the territory of ukraine that is directly subordinated to moscow, and let them will be denied, well, it has not been denied, this is this, and this is the monastery where gundyaya rested when he came to moscow in his time even before the 13th year when they came when came to ukraine, apologize to ukraine, came to ukraine, what do you think, what will be the finale of this story, i hope once again the effort to relieve tension from society, everyone and that these will be successive steps to uh, actually legal uh, solving the

problem of the existence of uh, not churches and intelligence residency on the territory of ukraine. this is the intelligence residency of the special services of the russian federation on the territory of ukraine. i can’t call them otherwise as a sokovite. well, we only had half a minute to say good luck. they announced the suspicion of the sbu to dmytro to the tobacconist who allegedly led the traitors of the collaborators volodymyr salda and yevgeny balytskyi in the kherson and zaporizhzhia regions. what do you think? will this story have an ending, too, very briefly ? this person needs a really international search and a court in ukraine a long time ago because what he did with education in ukraine and what he did with other things is simply not subject to the statute of limitations