ah, one of the strongest authorities of the ukrainian nation, well, what are we talking about, it must be cleared right now, because if right now, in such a hot moment, when we are simply being killed, it is not time for us, then when can it be time at all? well, it depends on each of us. i already said that the lavra is a monument there. there is a monument in pochaiv, but in every village there are still churches, which are somehow tolerated by people, uh, or they don't understand or don't want to understand. after all, they are singing the praises of our soldiers who come from the front and die for ukraine this is absolute nonsense i would like to remind you that kanalispresso and iryna koval, who is the inspiration and the head of our fundraiser for our army, ira is currently collecting money with all of us and you for an unmanned unmanned aerial vehicle for the military from the combined tactical group adam, this group is named after the commander yevgeny mezhevikin, the

legendary hero of ukraine cyborg, it was formed from volunteers in the first days of the war during the defense of the cities of irpin and buchi, after the liberation of the kyiv region, e-e soldiers of the m.m. were sent to zaporozhye, kharkiv region, luhansk region, donetsk region and a group as a rule, it performs the most difficult tasks in the most difficult directions, for effective work in this group, a uav is needed, 2 professional drones , their total cost is one million 40,000 uah well, we appeal to everyone who can help, please , every hryvnia is important, your help is important, it just seems that these amounts are so huge a million is more than a million, but when they come together, this has already been proven by all our volunteers, and ira koval is also not tired, the whole espresso team is working on it. well, i have a nice message for residents of occupied kherson , such a branch of the ukrainian state

privatbank has already opened there, on november 23, today privatbank opened a branch in kherson, which is located on the main central thoroughfare of the tauriyskyi microdistrict, the largest in the city, this is kherson 200th anniversary avenue 32, the press service of the bank there said that it was already the third branch, here are the photos, see how it is often beautiful , the city suffered a lot during the departure of the russians, however, the branch is working clearly we understand the importance of restoring the work of the banking sector of the economy in the liberated territories how without us bankers it is impossible to restore the work of neither the trade nor the service sector, it is true that we will do everything possible so that the people of kherson receive all banking services on time in full, well, we hope we can do this a small advertisement for the state bank, it's very cool that kherson is ours yes, we have another interview with yuri fizer, now we'll do an advertisement for mine too, because he

deserves it, it's our incredible irreplaceable an internationalist, he orients himself in absolutely all foreign international topics. and today he recorded an interview with a correspondent of radio svoboda i cordon yuzvya e-e yuzrik yes yuriy fizer right now we are watching together greetings my name is yuriy fizer and today my guest is my own correspondent of radio free europe and radio freedom in the european institutions , it's a year of cardio, how will i talk to him about how the european institutions, how europe in general supports ukraine in this difficult, difficult time for us? well, how am i now? cooperation between us. congratulations. and thank you very much for joining me today. congratulations. thank you. i was invited, my first question to you will be

this . what is it, because the european parliament is quite strong when it comes to supporting ukraine, they are also more free to make statements of this kind because they have no personal interest, well the european parliament is allowed to talk about things that, say, eu member states and the european commission cannot afford, and the european parliament essentially has more of a diplomatic dome when it comes to foreign policy, they do not make any binding decisions and therefore can be a little more offensive, so i think that the european parliament will pass a resolution naming russia that's right, and is there a specific

day when this resolution can be adopted? it will be on thursday. unfortunately, i don't have a calendar in front of me, but it seems to be somewhere on november 24. okay, so i hope that the head of european diplomacy in brussels will vote for the resolution before the start of the meeting of foreign ministers of the european union member states. he is not yet ready to discuss the introduction of new sanctions against russia. what can such a statement mean, it means that in the european the union has such a reality that in order to adopt each sanction, the unanimity of 27 member states is necessary. mr. borel knows that some eu member states do not want to advance further

further with sanctions now the vast majority of eu countries want to move forward in particular by expanding the list of people whose assets should be frozen who should receive an entry ban, they are ready to move further to fill certain gaps in the sanctions and so on but at the moment they have not accelerated to all 100 %. so now they are working on what could be the ninth eu sanctions package i think there is still a pretty good chance that it will be agreed before christmas but you will still have to work even uh even harder to get everyone to agree so, if we talk about some of these countries, they don't want new sanctions against russia right now or at all. i think both, but basically they don't want new sanctions at all. we know that hungary is the country that most loudly opposes the sanctions, they think that sanctions do not work,

claiming that if they were effective, they could have stopped the war long ago, so i think that they do not support new sanctions, however, as was the case with budapest during the last two or three rounds of sanctions, that they do not affect their energy, especially russian energy carriers that go to hungary, namely nuclear energy, gas and to some extent oil. and they can still accept sanctions, but then these sanctions will be very weak . two or three eu sanctions packages left us wanting more and i think that we will continue to see similar sanctions these will not be sanctions that would significantly affect the russian economy, have you already mentioned the presence of ukraine in european institutions, do you think that this is enough at the moment? i think that it is enough, but the problem is that despite the great support from your friends, despite the fact that people talk about ukraine all the time, and

today again the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba, addressed the minister of foreign affairs in brussels via video link, despite the fact that ukraine is definitely present everywhere, but at the same time, there are the limits of what the eu can do as a union of 27 countries. i mean that, as i said, this organization is based on consensus, and when there are certain countries that do not want to move forward so quickly, a compromise must be found this means that the answers will always be weaker than they expect. kyiv eu is moving and helping ukraine, or maybe it should not be there. the european union is constantly busy with ukraine, but the problem is that it is a slow tanker that does not go at full speed and will continue like this all winter. let 's talk about 18 billion euros of aid to ukraine is still a proposal or a decision that has already been adopted. the european

commission made such a proposal, now it is up to the eu member states that the first one and a half billion have already arrived in january, these funds can come or not they will come, potentially the minister of finance of the eu will come, i hope they will make a decision on this, as you know, again, hungary itself is blocking the decision, well, they are waiting for the funds that should come to hungary, so i think that the decision will be made before christmas, when hungary receives its money, then they will approve the money and for ukraine so that everyone gets money before christmas in this way you will surely solve this situation you remember that you also promised ukraine 9 billion this year and only 6 billion will come before even if it is accepted the decision about 18 billion, no one can guarantee that the entire amount will eventually go to ukraine in 2023. let's talk about the agenda of the

european institution for at least a month, and maybe several months ahead. is the issue of ukraine on the eu agenda? agenda of the eu in most configurations, but i would not say that there is any fatigue from ukraine, this is not true, because otherwise it would not be on the agenda, the problem is that we have now reached the stage when very important decisions are already adopted, and i am talking about the sanctions about granting ukraine the status of a candidate, there is not much of anything important left, so they will talk about ukraine in the future. eventually they will be distributed in parts by 2023, but at the moment there is a feeling of stagnation when

it comes to a creative approach to how to help ukraine. i got the impression that the opposition to the ukrainian question in the european institutions is growing, which arguments are used by those who believe that ukraine should be helped less, many believe that you actually receive not so much help or, after all, believed that the eu has quite a lot of support for institutions, will it be possible which member states would like to focus on others eyes, especially in winter when there is an energy crisis, and prices are rising everywhere, so now there is a discussion about how to help ukraine, and the arguments are mainly heard from hungary, in particular, that the policy did not work, that the sanctions do not work, or should we first of all, to reach moscow to achieve a cease-fire and therefore to discuss how to end this war, and yet mostly the majority

will say that it is ukraine that should decide when the war should end, when they want to sit down at the negotiating table, and that this is not something that we should press for now there is a kind of balancing act between trying to help ukraine but at the same time in the winter months when the eu has an energy crisis when prices are rising when industry starts complaining about the costs of everything that their productivity is at a low level so i think the question is whether ukraine will survive or be able to move forward in the winter and whether it will also survive so i think that already in the spring we will see more positive results and even an offensive push from the european union a few days ago in its twitter you wrote that there are too many russians in the osce. why do you think this is so? i think that

basically the osce is an organization in which russia is far from the last member. russia pays large contributions. of course, it will have a representative there . but i get the impression that the osce is a somewhat complacent organization that they don't really check who these russians are, who they work for, or do they pose a disturbing threat, well, let's consider such an example: there are russians who work in various organizations, for example, in the secretariat of the missions, and they have access to secret information for example, about people who worked in the special monitoring mission of the osce in ukraine, whose activities are now suspended, but they have the address of these people and what prevents them from transferring this information to the kremlin, which will then hand yours over to the fsb. i don't see any security mechanism there that would check where these people are, who they are, their connections, and so on. i'm not saying that every russian, every international organization is connected to the

kremlin . checked in a way to make sure that information that is confidential and especially that concerns ukraine did not get to the kremlin through a respectable western organization with good intentions, although this may sound a bit naive. okay, i hope that something will change soon because this is very important and dangerous both for ukraine and for europe itself, and my last question to you is: what are the average europeans most afraid of, a cold winter, high prices, or russia? i think it depends on where in europe they are, if in western europe, where not one feels the closeness of russia, they think more about energy prices, about how to survive the winter , complain in western europe when there are people in ukraine

who have neither water nor electricity, we need to perceive reality objectively, people in western europe has not seen a warrior for many years, they are not used to this kind of thing because they had their own comfort zone. and this is normal because they had decades of freedom and peace, and of course they are now more concerned about energy prices and how to survive and many people who try every month to make ends meet, but if you ask people in central and eastern europe who still have some collective memory left about what an invasion by russia is, what threats by russia are, or being under the political influence of russia i think there is still a fear of what russia can do, these people also live in conditions of certain economic difficulties that they have not encountered in western europe, so they know how to survive a difficult winter or two, but they are afraid of what russia can do because of its historical memory of course, thank you

, mr. yozi, for joining me today and answering my questions. i would like to remind you that he was a doctor, as the owner, a correspondent of radio free europe and radio svoboda, in the european institutions, we talked with him about our ukrainian-european relations relations about how europe is helping us in this difficult time for us well, what will my name be in the future, yuriy fizer, see you, we continue our broadcast and this is what he gives hanna valevska gives an interview with a correspondent of radio svoboda, the year border is his habit eh and there is also interesting information from the international field and the international community about what the former british prime minister berezh johnson claims. well, when he stands, the former begin to tell something, and here

it is interesting that in france they did not believe that putin would go on a full-scale invasion, and in berlin at a certain stage they thought it would be better if ukraine fell quickly, and in rome they shied away from a tough position towards russia, such international insights were told by the former british prime minister bronzoat information from our ambassador andriy melnyk. yes, his name is in germany, the former ambassador, who said that on the day of the attack, he met with the minister of finance or economy of germany, who directly told him, well, what are you going to do to help you in 3-4 hours, well, it's over, well, it's just helping, there's no point, we don't, and that's all we'll find out later, remember, i was a kolant, i started writing memoirs there, then when i left my post, and all this will also be revealed, who and how reacted well, in fact, we ourselves understand that if the ukrainian people there in the first villages of the sumy, kyiv

, kharkiv region, no no went out to those tanks and didn't rally. the whole people and the ukrainian army , no one would support us, and in fact it was convenient for everyone, but the proverb spring will show by paraphrasing who was where when the snow will come who was for whom we already have our next question guest solomiya bobrovska, people's deputy of ukraine , secretary of the parliamentary committee on foreign policy, inter-parliamentary cooperation, deputy head of the permanent delegation to the nato parliamentary assembly, we address you good morning, glory to ukraine, today the european parliament will vote on the resolution to recognize russia as a state sponsor of terrorism, what do you expect from this vote if it is positive what can it give, what kind of evil can ukrainian positions give to ukrainian diplomacy, please. i think that today it will not be smooth, and everything will be without problems,

my expectations are if there will be many discussions, especially about the words, what is the state of the sponsor, because what is the state of the terrorist, in what way, what will be the consequences after this recognition, and so on, because there were many discussions in the previous one of the parties of the european parliament, where the draft of this document was actually being prepared, accordingly knows that, especially in the political positions of various countries, which are still afraid to say it out loud that russia is a terrorist state or a sponsor of terrorism, which have deep economic ties with the russians, it seems to me that it won't be so simple, it won't go smoothly. shouldn't it have already been agreed upon in advance about such a vote, but even when we passed the amendment on russian terrorism within the framework of the panat, there were several interpretations. there were discussions about how to correctly use which words and where and

accordingly. well, with such things, you need to follow very, very carefully and to the end how they will be written down in the documents, what it can mean, you don't have to tell yourself that this recognition is already will be in the literal sense of the word what will be written why because such a decision they are in fact a framework political only then they give grounds for eh not even grounds as well as eyes readiness and eh take away fear from politicians eh hm of individual states so that such things were recognized at the level of the national parliament, and then sanctions followed, which entails legal and economic consequences, because, for example, it is very difficult and very difficult for the americans, and in fact, if, for example, they recognize russia as a state sponsor of state terrorism and a terrorist in fact, what are the consequences of their cooperation with, for example, iran or north korea, this means that no space program will be

launched together with the russians or any other e-e cooperation, in principle, is impossible because all ends are very, very deep, they will to be checked and cut off from this state, that is why it is primarily important for us from the point of view that this is not a framework for flight, a basis or in europe, they were used to this, they understood it, they asked a lot of questions about what is happening, what are the latest news from ukraine, of course we are grateful for the generator if it is help of this nature, but the priority is, of course, weapons and only weapons, otherwise, uh, otherwise, they are deeply concerned and they often express it. well, it was mrs. solovya who did not help us, well, the day before, the nato parliamentary assembly already recognized russia as a terrorist state. from this, what will practically happen, you say, the programs will not be launched. yes, what and what else. will there be a chain reaction after this?

what are the consequences for russia ? received answers from asking the question who from above , if on the last day of the parliamentary assemblies in 1997 a document was adopted, which iranian document of cooperation is nato, the russian federation, where the russian federation is a partner and an external partner of the northern alliance and i want, despite the fact that months later at the madrid summit it was recognized as a threat, but no one understated the original document on which it is still in effect and did not cancel it. this note is important so that we understand the strait, accuracy for sure such a policy of the westerners themselves worked out certain certain moments in the nato parliamentary assembly it was recognized as follows the phrase to recognize the russian

russian russian state is terrorist under the conditions of the current regime and that is why i say that there you should always be very careful with your words, because in our attempt to explain that it is not just the current regime, no one in our country provided us with armed aggression when medvedev was the president , in georgia, that in principle, society is at war which one hardly anyone predicted what will happen after putin leaves office or ceases to exist on this live er and these are the moments they are important for us they are fundamental but nevertheless after the program from the assembly of europe on nato, i emphasize once again, this actually becomes a political framework for other countries in their national parliaments to make such decisions and further entail the decisions of governments, which in fact directly or directly legislative parliaments

will prohibit any cooperation at the level of only for the military and not only for sanctions because uh, i don't know what you saw as uh, families and sanctioned people relax peacefully in italy, like the example of the russian federation, and i, i don't know. in this mammal, uh, they work, i know more precisely but it simply goes around, and it is difficult to explain to ukrainians and europeans what kind of double game it is, but except , for example, for the parliament in the baltic countries, the czech republic , poland, currently other countries are afraid to recognize everything as their own and to proceed gradually with practical steps, we have i hope that when the e-e level of the parliamentary assembly of nato and the council of europe, this will give them an impetus because er, i will give an example when we communicate and talk often about the special tribunal that we are asking for creation or about er reparations, which we emphasize that after the

un resolution er countries can already work according to which , according to its schemes, the mechanism is very often referred to, especially saying the following er things that we need er such an international framework within which we occupy to accept observed especially because repressions have already been accepted as well as the history of russia is a state and a terrorist until now well, the water grinds a stone until i get very bored and wo n't explain that i didn't warn what is a terrorist state or a sponsor of terrorism where in fact from the smallest link ending with a weapon that uses the elements of the word european in their own in their own projectiles or weapons this should be stopped and in uh and adopted finally on their legislative natives therefore there is a lot of work once again this framework things they are important this is just the start but

there is a lot, a lot of work ahead with the key countries that today well, i won't say that it's cold , but we are a war for them, because the germans , italians, and the french are not far away, and by the way, the belgians, the netherlands, they are somewhere on their own, on their own wave, you understand it is difficult and we will give you weapons, and what will we have left there and so on further and so on, that is, all these discussions are exhausting. i am already silent about hungary, which is just well, but the germans and french simply took it off the tongue, the hungarians are far away, close enough, across one border. politicians but in principle it should be like this no, when the president, the president, the prime minister of hungary, viktor orbán, appears on tv and in front of the cameras in a scarf, a scarf in the rose, say football fans, on which a large territory of hungary is drawn, including a part of the ukrainian ukrainian territory, in particular transcarpathia well, i'm the only one there already i didn’t look closely

. but it seems to me that croatia also got into this big map of big hungary, that is, he made such a challenge not only to ukrainians. what do you think ? you evaluate the reaction of the ukrainian side to such an appearance and such a form of the prime minister of hungary and also our european partners in the european union and in nato, in particular, please, i will tell you frankly in human language in serge until orban will have two thirds of the parliament and e- this is a complete dictatorship , probably worse than ukraine in 10-13 and all the nations. all internal politics of hungary is some kind of public today when neither the eu nor nad is looking for completely different new ways to solve such things when there is no unity as such when budapest is officially he says that brussels is committing terrorism against them

because of the fact that they do not provide funding for one or another of their projects, and the hungarians are blocking our aid from the european union. he says that they need a budget in connection with with the recent unrest in society, having the opportunity to change its constitution in hungary to access the reform of all its special services of law enforcement agencies and so on and so on, there is no answer except that ukraine should wait for a change of power or the european union in the end create a president when they take over the country and when they can exclude the country, it's time to face new realities. unfortunately, there is no nato. until now, they are quite inert in their behavior, they are reactive, they react. they don't have projective step and they say that mantras that unity is our greatest strength, well, surprisingly, the story turns out to be completely with hungary, which does not at all touch,

for example, with the position in nato, for example, great britain, or is within the framework of the european union with the baltic countries or with poland, for example when you can't maybe we are just too picky and capricious about this story, because well, i look at this map of the so-called big eye, there are other countries there, but croats, what are there, for sure, croats are all there? it seems to me like a map. they did n't react , did they ? slovaks there are also from slovakia in this map, either you or bosnia did not react that their words were believed, if i am not mistaken, but i will tell you that they do not roll their eyes, but you understand. and what should we understand when financing the financial blockade for them eh not works and hungary continues to allow itself to simply do step by step the russian scenario when at our bilateral meeting er ukrainian delegations with hungarian safely there was no hungarian opposition there was

a direct kirill, the head of the russian church, to block the transit of our weapons to our partners through their country, across the border, and so on . violation of the rights of the national minority and why the hungarians are fighting on the side of the hungarian minority is fighting already going to the armed forces of ukraine, what's more, the incident that happened to me. i will probably voice this publicly for the first time in the month of march with the donkey of hungary when it comes to the question of mobiles, well, the question of mobilization, why are we mobilizing the hungarian car obviously, my answer was that they are citizens of ukraine first of all, and then they go to sumyshchyna, to which he said precisely because you and i are fascists, it seems to me that after this the ambassador and even more so after the incident with orban and in scarf and all politicians for nine