let's try to look at it all, mr. oleksandr, let's start with you, look at the partners and the european union, the united states of america, and probably china and other countries already perfectly understand that the russian federation will lose in this war, and it's only a matter of time, there will be that's why talking about what can change there, the only issue that i think worries the west is the possibility of a nuclear strike. but again, uh, now this issue has disappeared from the agenda, because i understand that western intelligence does not see such a possibility at the moment and does not see what the russian federation is preparing for this and that's why talking about the fact that something will radically change. i did

n't think that time works in our favor. you are freeing in your territory . let's continue. well, just to buy time by killing the actual people there, mobilizing them, but again without bringing any results on the battlefield, er. if we talk about the capabilities there, for example, in terms of shells, or in terms of military equipment, well, unfortunately, they have there is no such possibility in order to at least reach the level of february 24, what they had then and the brothers, in fact, at the moment, they don’t have any, the only thing is that iran is helping with these shock

mopeds or some missiles. but again, i understand that it won't happen, this aid is not of such a nature that it would change something, it would change the coordination, the only thing that putin and the russian authorities can do is to try to persuade ukraine through er in order to restore our resources and our capabilities , but we perfectly understand why these negotiations are possible and what they are for, so, in fact, we are opposed to them. the only condition that ukraine agrees to is that if russian troops completely withdraw from the territory of ukraine, what should we do? i mean the occupied crimea and the donbas there, the luhansk region and

other regions, where there are some troops, then we can talk about some kind of negotiations, and these negotiations will mostly be to our advantage, we have an advantage now, we do not use it, no less well, look, the missile strikes continue, and well , apparently, the stockpile of missiles the russians have is still large enough, here we don’t need to deceive ourselves that something is ending there . also the fact that they have time to make them for new strikes as well well, in principle, i obviously said there that they are running out, but there are not enough of them in order to make some changes , er, i mean of a strategic nature. so they will fire and it's time already understand what the war has been eight months and we are not fighting, which already means that there is

an enemy who wants to destroy us well, that's a clear story yes yes viktor what do you think this is the last missile strike, he somehow er, well, there has been some understanding that it is necessary to quite er, well, change this well, i would say no help in air defense, well, will we see any changes in the supply of weapons ? i think so, i see that they have already started to find finally because from germany some of them on the square are more effective precisely and now and in order to open and drones are an iranian joke, so in principle, i think it worked, it’s easy to show the europeans, well, actually, they understand the dimming of electricity better than, and simply because they are, it’s

somehow better, they don’t imagine it. they imagine that you have a problem and they’re trying to help somehow. of course, if there the russians agreed on the supply of a large number of missiles, there will still be problems, but at least we are beginning to feel the solutions to these problems, and these solutions have certain effectiveness. the question, including and to what extent quickly we will be able to restore it if it is a problem for weeks but if you do it we will fight well i think it is still a question of time how quickly will they have time to put something to us before the russians again accumulate uh opportunities to strike this question because in uh well, you know the talk about what they have there for three times for five strikes, they don't really seem to me, well, you know, they help in this situation. here, too, the question, viktor, is how to evaluate this story. can we see, well, in

the near future, the results of these deliveries in the near future it is unlikely to be and this is a matter firstly gradually and secondly, what does it mean that we see, usually we learn about how much was actually perceived and only as a result of uh-uh already directly uh-uh of some reports of slow forces so in maybe we already have a blackout, this blackout is in the entire format in which it exists, they will most likely be there throughout the dental period and we will see what will happen next, i still think that we will not be able to uh here they started to hold back these russian attacks but the problem is that it does not mean that our government here will fix what is already broken and always. we have this kind of thing, don't tell me that you're naked. in principle, what are you going to do here? this is a war with an enemy who thinks it's okay to be a civil

infrastructure and be proud of this whole thing. it means that such an enemy must be defeated, and there have been others, it will be completely kapets come on, we must defend ourselves from him, we must understand that he is waging war exactly like this and not in some other way. now there is a war it goes completely into the sphere of missile and bomb attacks, so it should be oriented towards it. thank you , it was oleksandr poherytskyi, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, i.e., of the kyiv city council, viktor tregubov , an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, our chronicles of combat operations for a week, uh, well, we will meet in a week, on our air espresso many other things yes what are you watching stay with us watch this week in the judicial control program with tetyana shustrova new old two as the re-elected head of the volyn court of appeal dismissed from the responsibility of his colleagues, an administrative

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situation is difficult but controlled in all regions of ukraine, shutdown schedules are in effect, however, due to the cooling of the energy industry, they do not rule out what will happen emergency power outages are also involved, the prime minister also explained the situation in each region, the difference is that the periods without electricity are longer, somewhere shorter, between the station that produces electricity and our homes, as the final consumers are substations and networks that transport electricity, in fact, russian terrorists attack precisely because of this, it is sometimes impossible for these objects to transport a large amount of electricity in a separate region or district, therefore the restriction is uneven across the country. but i am told that guests already from we are economic experts, yevhen dubogrets, an associate expert of the analytical center of the case of ukraine, and mykhailo demkiv, who is a financial

analyst at the company icu. let's talk, dear guests, about such an unusual topic for our program as the football championship, money and sports, dear experts, are you? can you hear me? good morning. so, the final stage of the 2022 fifa world cup will be held from november 20 to december 18 in a boat. this is an arab country. it is the first time in the middle east. it is the first time in the northern hemisphere in autumn and winter. but we will not let's talk about the results of the matches who will win who will lose and let's talk about money how much does it all cost yevgeny perhaps you have such information and recently there is a lot of information spreading that this is the most expensive world cup in history and this is probably true and the second number

is what uh the total cost of the boat for the world championship was 220 billion dollars this figure of course it looks very, very nice there is very big it is more than 10 times more than russia spent on the previous championships it was close 14 billion dollars, but it is very interesting. where did it come from? once in the 17th year, the minister of finance of kata simply told in an interview that we plan to spend about 500 million per week. per week and reached the figure of 220 billion. according to various estimates, this championship will cost the place from 15 to 20 billion dollars, of which direct costs for the construction of stadiums are from 6 to 10

billion dollars, and the rest are infrastructure costs for the organization of other things in the end, it will still be the most expensive in the world of the championship, especially considering that ekator is absolutely not a football country, they had to build stadiums from scratch around one of the stadiums, the new city had to build new transport lines, metro lines, that is, the money of which countries will spend and it is unlikely that she will be able to receive there even 1/3 one third of these funds in the form of a refund, well, the bad ones say that even there the fans were brought for money, that this is an overwhelmingly overwhelming mass - it also costs something. i don’t know how true it is, mr. mykhailo. hey, maybe your figures differ from what yevhen said. what is the total

amount that will be spent? i heard some incredible sums: 200 billion, 220 billion, well, that is, more than what yevhen says. this amount is fantastic, but it is necessary to understand what is included in it, it seems to me that the miracles of accounting appeared here and they took into account in the general cost estimate literally all projects so large and grand that were built in katal in the previous 12 years, this also includes the expansion of the airport the construction of the metro, the construction of a new seaport , and also the most expensive er, 45 billion dollars er, the cost of building a virtually new city in qatar and in which the matches are being held three times. that is, i do not know er, there will be an economic effect from these er investments or no, this is already a question of a receipt, but they are not directly football

expenses, specifically for the holding of e-matches, the construction of infrastructure, it is precisely more than 10 billion e -dollars, and taking into account the fact that all the matches are within a radius of 30 km, it looks like too much stadiums for which we probably had enough of normal conditions. this is the problem not only of this championship . is no longer used and it is extremely wasteful. well, maybe all these investments are paid off. we already know that there are also advertising contracts, there are contracts for the sale of broadcasting rights, there is a tourist flow and all these tourists buy something and leave their money in the

country that hosts the championship, perhaps there is a sense in this, mr. mykhailo, the economist, are there such calculations or not, and at the same time, i would like to ask if it is possible to show the diagram, the first graph is from the magazine by icons, where the corresponding e-e columns are indicated. yes , it is yes, mykhailo, could you explain what we see on this diagram, well, actually, it happens for some reason that the expenses for holding the competition are mostly on the shoulders of the government, on the shoulders of local local authorities, that is, on taxpayers, and the revenues are very often taken away by others in the case of the may sale of telecasts of tickets, they go to the fifa football federation, of course, the

local business also has a large profit by selling -e seats in hotels selling some food restaurants souvenirs etc. er but we understand one million er these er fans let them each of them spend er well let 2,000 $ each. quite a large sum, er, this means 2 billion dollars in total, we were talking about much, much larger sums larger sums, therefore, such competitions are paid for, it seems to me, only in those countries and cities where, in principle, the infrastructure is already built, the preparation of any is developed, but it is necessary to build from scratch. but here is this diagram. i understand that the championships of russia were paid for twice in 2018, profits broadcast tickets and sponsorship

money were more than the expenses and eh in hm seems to be in spain no eh in mexico in mexico for the sixth year so here is one moment yes that is what has already drawn the attention of the readers of the laws of the city that russia is actually even officially spent much more than what is shown on this graph, it was compiled by scientists from the university of vazanna, who analyze sports events in general, and the russian championship in general. it is said there, and in general, they come to the conclusion that it is true that the world championships at no. yes, most of the olympic games are not occupied, but there are indirect effects, that is, effects on the economy, effects on economic development, then countries but again, at the moment it is impossible to say

for sure whether they are really covered by these directional costs or whether after or before the holding of such large competitions there is such economic growth in the country that it covers all government costs and that is why the authors there come to the conclusion what, uh, such tournaments are more. his image is a project, including a political project, that is, to show the country, to show that it is worth doing business with, to show, as they say, the product, the person , in principle, it is more than the tournament itself, so that in principle we learned that such a country exists and there is a political aspect here, because we know that there are problems in the boat with democracy, there are problems in general between the arab world and the western world, and there are often

some misunderstandings, and here they demonstrate even i looked on the website fifa has a separate video dedicated to the fact that women have rights, women actively play football in arab countries, it is emphasized that it is women's rights, that is, in this way, the country's image can be improved, but how many applicants are there, no one wants to spend such a lot of money on sports competitions, yevgeny, you know, there is a very interesting story. sometime around a year before 2006, there were a lot of applicants from developed countries . took part in these competitions, now the story is a little different for the contenders. in fact, there are fewer and fewer and more

countries that want to hold such championships there. as they say, uh, with an incomprehensible image, such as a boat , russia, or those countries about which, well, they know quite a bit developed countries, well, they don't really want to host such tournaments, more conventionally speaking, european countries prefer to host euro matches, i.e., where the level of teams is stronger where there are more, where more fans are expected . the essence of this same culture is that recently there is a trend that not only fifa chooses countries that are not very developed in terms of football, but also the countries of the world cup are not so developed and not very developed. very football p. mykhailovych, we will wait for one day that, for example, north korea will offer to hold

some kind of championship in them, or they don’t have money for it, or iran, for example. so, we know that the country is under sanctions and supplies weapons to attack ukraine, but at the same time they have them oil revenues and, in principle, they could spend such funds, it seems like this decade is it a little more when the countries, er, a little less rich, er, accepted championships in football, they end and the next championship, er, will be held in the usa will be paired with canada and mexico, this will be the 26th year, and the host of 2030 is not yet known, and there are good chances that one of them will be paired with two countries, spain and portugal, and there are some small chances, at least about this now they say that ukraine will be allowed to hold several matches before the war, i don't know before that, these are of course plans for a very long

period after the war, but it seems to me that the situation is changing. if we talk about other sports competitions, for example, the olympics, which is even more difficult for holding the following three the olympic games were their hosts were determined in the end on a non-alternative basis. there was only one city that was ready to host it and it was given this right because the price of hosting is growing and will grow in the future. we have another diagram. we can show it and i will then ask the experts to comment on what we see on it. yes, yes, so the most projects were spent on which funds were spent, how much, yevgeny , what is this, this is this city that was built separately, 45 billion, billion, million, yes, 45 billion dollars was according to expert estimates, it was spent on the construction

of the new building of this new city. and also on the metro in the capital of qatar, 36 e-e have been spent so far, for at least an estimate of 36 billion. well, the direct costs of stadiums are 10 billion, and the costs of building a new seaport are about seven with half a billion. that is, all the expenses of the boat that go directly to football and those that the country generally spent on infrastructure investments during the time when it was chosen as the host of the championship and until the time when the championship was conducted it simply shows how much is spent now on football, you know, for comparison, economists give a very cool figure that in the 60th year, the cost of the world cup in terms of one player participating in it was $200,000 in current prices. now in russia, from russia, now there in the 18th year, these expenses reached

seven million dollars per player . this just shows how expensive it is to hold a championship, sports inflation, but it reminds me of something, remember euro-2012 in ukraine and then not only stadiums were built under this euro, for example, in the world, which we still use and in principle, in my opinion, the investment was successful, because it turned out that in this way it was possible to carry out a reform of the ukrainian railway. but we also got into debt in the year before last yes, we continued to pay for euro-2012 from the state budget, i don't know how in the past and this year we missed this moment e p mykhailo e, were such investments successful in ukraine during the holding of major sports competitions, well, this is very me it seems like such a debatable question, the answer to which

we will learn from the fact that we received a russian invasion less than two years after the end of euro-2012, which crossed out a lot that, well , at least that one of the stadiums of euro-2012, donbas arena, stopped functioning eight more than eight has not been functioning for years, many people actually say that it is a fact to fight for the holding of such competitions, football championships, olympiads, for the reason that actually this is the kind of infrastructure that is being built, in my opinion, it is the opinion is wrong, the government does not need to wait for any tournaments to compete for some tournaments if they also want to build a road or build an intercity. you do not need to spend billions of dollars additionally on stadiums or some arenas. if you want to update your ports or build wider ones roads and i need it, it seems to me that we need to move away from these things, the ambitions of

managers who want to meet with a large number of other countries to take on pompous competitions, and if investments are needed, he infrastructure, look for funds for them, and not, at the same time, not spend an incredible amount of money on holding sports competitions that last only one month, mr. yevgeny, and you literally have 30 seconds or 40 seconds, but stas, the same question is whether ukraine should also compete, well, it’s clear after the end of the war for holding such championships, i think it depends on which one we will be after the victory , because mykhailo is completely right that it can be done without a championship, on the other hand, when there are such competitions - it is much easier to explain taxpayers, why their money goes specifically to infrastructure projects, why do we build stadiums

, subways, roads, because there is an anchor project, because there is a world championship, the olympics or something else. and that's why it's just much easier to sell and it's much easier and easier to build, but the answer to the question is still the same remains open. if we need it or not, we'll see. thank you yevhen dubogrets, an expert of the analytical center, case ukraine mykhailo demkiv, a financial analyst of the icu group of companies, today they talked about football, yes, money. well, how ? the conclusion from this conversation is that a lot depends on the voters, if the voters are ready to perceive large infrastructure costs only as an addition to the holding of some championship, then the politicians will do so, and if the voters will approach it rationally, then maybe we will spend our budget funds more rationally andrianivskyi with economic news on espresso together we will win i'm iryna koval mother wife

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