at our wedding, there was a hut across the yard, and on the carpet hung posters written by the hands of the past. it was a long time ago, and on one of them it was written : brave paradise hut, yes, now i understand this phrase 200% when brave paradise hut, when really morally support when you were in the morning holding you when he understands you when he supports you when he scolds you

a real vocation. i think so. for some reason, i was confident that it was mine, that i could do it, and who else but me. well, these were the thoughts i had at the age of 22. at the age of 22 , i came after the fifth year to work as a young class teacher. they immediately gave me a class the leadership of 35 students was in the class , they brought me up, i brought them up, but nothing grew up, a worthy, worthy generation grew up. they come to me all their lives on all holidays, on my birthday, on march 8, on teacher's day, they always congratulate me, but especially now, when i am in such a difficult situation you know, this seed you sowed has sprouted.

they help everyone. they came to the clan itself . you don't have a refrigerator. they brought it to my garage. they brought it to my garage. they brought it to my garage. those who even stayed in borodyanka live . they will definitely ask how are you, what do you need, and you understand that you did something so right and you are on the right path a-a-a m hello. now in my class there is a boy whose father is like this. now in the front line there is a boy in my class whose father in june months, he died in july, we buried him. thank you that today we are conducting lessons. i am in a class of 6 people.

destroyed buildings. apartments with nothing . due to the situation itself, thanks to such people, we are unbreakable and cold and wind and rain, everything is in her, it is there, we are her board, she has children well done svitlana mykolaivna, what am i, what can i say? totally worthy a generation that will love

ukraine with even greater strength will represent it with dignity everywhere, and i think it will work out for us ana, turn over the leaf of this big notebook of ours and the lesson is called correction on the topic natural numbers, it's all about the control work, so please, sweetie, we disconnect for a while bye-bye dignity is that which is fixed in blood by deeds with the lives of heroes in the constitution of your country to be worthy to be ukrainian let's be worthy of our heroes hello

dear, i want to tell you something, you are tired like a mother after a hard day and you don't know if will be tomorrow is better because today is so hard but everything will change, the germans will help you you will become happy and we are with you because you have all the land, forests, factories and the most valuable thing is this we are your children who love you tired and exhausted but dream of seeing you successful and happy in fact we are strong and we will be able to win everything and in defense day and night, desperate, confident, they swim the way

to our victory with armor, tank troops, the pride of the armed forces, the enemy makes our streets dark, but it will not break us, because we are bright people, remember the car on at a speed of 60 kilometers per hour will stop after 30 meters if you are wearing a blinker, the driver will see you 130 meters away if you are wearing white 55 m away, if you are wearing red, 24 m away, a pedestrian in black water will notice a maximum of 18 m away, mark yourself, do not get lost in the dark, the rules of a warm country, household rules technology thank you on behalf of the vacuum cleaner for allowing it to fall into winter hibernation

good for health moisture cleaning your care warms us we will win the winter together the european court can review how effectively the state fulfilled its obligations in the context of compliance of human rights for a large number of people is essentially a mechanism to get this kind of fair decision ms. sukurenko i welcome you to the first channel of public broadcasting thank you very much for coming to us good afternoon, we are recording this conversation on the eve of the verdict that is to be handed down in in the netherlands in the case of mh17, but this case is not the only case that dealt with the investigation and

establishment of justice in this terrible disaster, also in the european court of human rights there is a case called ukraine and the netherlands against russia and the episode with the catastrophes between 17 one of the episodes, could you tell us a little more about this case, yes, the european court has cases . against the russian federation and on it. just this year, at the beginning of the year, on january 26, we were at the oral hearings and we provided the government of the netherlands to the russian federation presented positions on these cases and there, among other things, we commented on this episode of the downing of the plane. in addition, there is individual lawsuits, that is, the relatives of the deceased, they also appealed to the european court of human rights. and this is also the subject of consideration by the court.

there are more than 200 lawsuits under consideration by the european court. in addition, we have another international proceeding, this is russia against ukraine, which is also raised this episode and russia presents its version of what happened and claims that ukraine should be responsible for the downing of the plane, that is, if there is a registered case russia against ukraine on the sword episode 17 where russia insists on its own to such a propagandist version of what happened. that is, this is a lawsuit not only about nh17. that is, it is a whole series of complaints and about the alleged oppression of the russian-speaking population and the fact that we did not block this north crimean channel and among other things there is this episode according to emei 17, where russia puts forward its version. that is, it is deliberately avoiding those proceedings that are against it, but the most interesting thing is that

they claim that they are this investigation that was conducted by a joint investigative group, that they deliberately threw her out of there so that she would not yet be admitted to attention to the evidence provided by the russian federation, and it is very interesting because, on the other hand, we all watched the investigation conducted by the joint investigative group and we saw that russia constantly evaded this investigation, evaded giving information to the requests of this group, so well, it is like this interesting, that is, a procedural battle for the european court, on the one hand, our cases, on the other hand, the version of the russian federation, such a creation of a parallel reality. what has the media space been doing for 8 years? on the one hand, it is the creation of a parallel reality in the media space, but there was another goal - this lawsuit was in the 21st year, that is, in july

21st, russia filed a lawsuit against ukraine, but in the 21st year, we had active written communication with the european court , preparations are already underway for oral hearings on ukraine and the netherlands against russia, and the european court wanted to hold oral hearings on this case in november 21st, and literally in three months, russia files this lawsuit and together with the lawsuit, submits a petition combine the lawsuit e-e russia against ukraine with the lawsuit of ukraine and the netherlands against russia in order to procedurally delay the oral hearings a-a european court he accepted the lawsuit he just has to accept it procedurally even if it is inadmissible there he has to accept it register this the lawsuit to add to his work is obvious, but the european court refused to combine the two cases because he intended to conduct oral hearings, plus, these services were still different in terms of their complaints and the nature of those from kharkiv and

uh, in order not to hold these oral hearings after all. then, two weeks before the oral hearings themselves in november, russian judges from uh, there is a case against russia, simply refused to take part in the hearings. well, accordingly, the students of the hearing could not they were postponed until the end of january, that is 21 22 of the year, returning to this situation with the interstate complaints of ukraine against russia, as well as individual complaints related to the episode on mh17, what do they say that in the context of the european court of human rights, we want to achieve in the final result, it is the payment of compensations to the families of those who died, or is it possible that it is about some, well, more global dimension of establishing justice in this case? well, here we need to understand the purpose of state lawsuits. we are conducting and their goal

is still a more global choice to show them about the systematic practice of the massiveness of the violations committed by the russian federation on our sovereign territory which it occupied. that is, we are talking about the fact that there is a whole series of human rights violations committed by russia tolerates encouragement when we talk about the lawsuit of the netherlands against the russian federation, which was added to our proceedings, it was of a slightly different nature, it was directly stated that the netherlands is filing this lawsuit in the interests of the victims and their purpose to help the victims and bring the culprits to justice and, in the future , to help receive certain compensations. which in particular is known to our viewers of ihor gorky, will this verdict have any impact on your work at the

european court of human rights, but in this direction it will definitely have an impact because part of the materials in our lawsuit are also the results of the investigation of the joint investigative team and the results of this judicial proceeding, and here it is important that these materials were provided by the dutch side in the course of, well, again within the limits of what they could reveal to us at this stage and it will have additional force as an additional part evidence for our lawsuit and a very interesting moment regarding the current status of russia in the european court of human rights in the spring and russia was expelled for betraying europe and this also meant the termination of its participation in the european court of human rights. what does this mean for us in practice well, they once said that she was in the status of an expelled member of the council of europe, that is, she

was expelled from march, although russia is trying to push the envelope. that she came out for treason to europe, that's how she was expelled for treason to europe, and everyone feared that after the expulsion, there is no russia in the council of europe it is not in the european court, that is, there is no party to the proceedings, how to proceed with cases, and there was a fear that after that all cases will essentially be stopped. stop, that is, they will not be there . despite the fact that there were these fears and i that this thesis, including russia, was reinforced by the european court decided that within six months from the moment of russia's exclusion of treason to europe, it can still consider e-e lawsuits with complaints about human rights violations committed by the russian federation, that is, on march 16, russia

ruled out treason against europe until september 16. if there are complaints about human rights violations before september 16, they fall under the so-called temporary jurisdiction of the european court of human rights and it has to consider these complaints is also a very interesting point, despite the fact that russia has already been excluded from betrayal of europe and is no longer a party to the convention on the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms, on the basis of which the european the court of human rights and the european court continue communication with russia on cases, that is, communication in individual cases and work obviously has not stopped, but to talk about, for example, the payment of compensation in cases in which decisions will be made after march, for example, it is impossible to talk now, well , talk about compensation by the pro-russian federation on cases in the occupied territories were generally difficult even before because russia, even in its own

cases, here and there, citizens of the russian federation complained against russia and did not always want to to carry out the decision. that is, we even remember that in 14th year they repeatedly made changes in the legislation, brothers, as a result, they also completed the changes in the constitution of the russian federation, stating that there they have the supremacy of domestic law over international law and they generally decide for themselves which decision should be implemented and which should not be implemented, so it would be difficult to talk here in general even before, but we are also thinking about this problem, work is currently underway on the creation of a compensation mechanism. to support the creation of such a compensation mechanism, the position with state partners is also being worked out, that is, this direction is also currently being worked out and an option is being worked out, how it would be possible to force russia to be compensated for

the damages it caused during the invasion, and not since the 22nd year and from the 14th. that is, we are talking about mechanisms that would allow us to achieve compensation without waiting for the change of the regime in russia and the return of common sense, and earlier you mentioned already at the beginning of the conversation that in addition to interstate cases, there are obviously also individual complaints to the european court of human rights, and regarding the russian-ukrainian war, also if we are talking about such complaints. complaints and what they most often relate to, we cannot keep this record because the european court does not report to us how many complaints have been filed or what the complaints are about, so we need to understand the mechanism of ukraine's interaction in general

with the european court, that is, it is submitted hmm by a physical or legal person a, who believes that the state has violated a certain list of its rights under the convention, a lawsuit is filed with the european court, if it is acceptable, the european court registers it and a certain time passes until the european court - this case will be sent to the state to provide a position in view of the complaints we have filed, and not necessarily all complaints are acceptable in the first place, that is, it happens that even without communication with the government, the european court can reject complaints, well, according to the general procedure, in order to how is it? how is the case being considered? we become aware of the case already if it is previously recognized as acceptable and sent to us for a position, but we are talking about the complaints of citizens of ukraine against russia. this includes other cases that we also wanted information and from time to time

we proactively turn to the european court with the question of providing us with some more or less general or statistical information that the court can provide . was supplemented by a large-scale invasion, we received such preliminary statistics at the beginning of february, and we had, according to the european court, more than 8,000 individual lawsuits, which are complaints about violations of human rights in the temporarily occupied territories in the crimea and donetsk and luhansk regions , as they were at that time divided into several categories, there were complaints exclusively against ukraine, complaints exclusively against russia, and complaints against both ukraine and russia now. i think by the end of the year,

it will change. of a full-scale invasion, such people are contacting despite the fact that russia was excluded from the council of europe, they continue to contact us, we just told you that we saw this communication, and you and i will be seen by many people on television, and maybe you can explain to our viewers who they are if they became witnesses to the victims of russian- ukrainian wars can think and act in terms of applying to the european court of human rights at the first moment, and any person, that is, a natural and legal person who considers himself a victim of e crimes that committed by the russian federation. it can apply to the european court of human rights, and there are several important points. this is the first, this is the temporary jurisdiction of the european court regarding human rights violations by russia, that is, before september 16, human rights violations that took place before september 16,

and they are still subject to the division of the european court of human rights after september 16. that is, we cannot say that this is no longer a violation, it is a violation , the european court simply will not be able to consider these cases. it is an important point of appeal to of the european court within a four-month period, i.e. if the violation there conditionally took place on september 10, you have four months from january 10 to submit an application to the european court, the application must be made on a special form of the european court, it is available on the open e-site of the european court and it is in english, it is in ukrainian, and there are also detailed explanations of how to fill out the form. important at the first stage, when

the european court considers and takes the implementation of the case. and that is, in addition to the fact that everything can be viewed on the website of the european court of human rights, you can contact the ministry of justice and ask that a person wants to apply to the european court, so please clarify the procedure or to submit a form, a person can make this appeal both independently and can ask for help, for example, from lawyers. i know that many ukrainian human rights organizations actually provide such assistance for the registration of these complaints, that is, here in principle, a person is not alone, but if he wants to, he can do it on his own, that is, it can be done by itself, it can also involve the involvement of lawyers. we have a very human rights organization, human rights organizations are very active in this regard and have very good experience, including the 14th year in part e.e. self-violations of human rights in the temporarily occupied territories and the application itself is not formalized. it is not difficult to fill out,

but taking into account the subtleties that arise, especially as a result of a full-scale invasion, it would still be good to apply at least with a preliminary consultation, that is, if the person there does not want this form to be filled out by their representative, then it was still worth consulting beforehand, but it can be done independently and with a representative, that is, there is some requirement that there must be a lawyer, well, there is no such thing of the european union, you already mentioned a little about the fact that the european court of human rights has, in principle, a lot of complaints, and actually against the ukrainian state, before our conversation with you, i looked at the statistics for last year and ukraine there again among the leaders in terms of the number of complaints against it, that is, in third place if i am not mistaken after russia and turkey of unsolved

problems of the judges is called by a as a problem of a general or systemic nature, but our statistics here must be recognized in large numbers due to the complaints of the very connection with the violation of human rights in the temporarily occupied territories, that is, if look at the statistics, as far as i remember, at the end of august this year, there were new statistics, we have 11,000 or so individual lawsuits against ukraine, 8,000 of them are related to temporarily occupied territories, and there is still a considerable percentage of them what are the questions, well, there is a question about how they were prepared, what do you mean, you suspect the hand of the kremlin here. and if you remember, there was a journalistic investigation last year in march or may.

involvement of the russian federation, but against ukraine , and when we take part in various meetings of the bodies of the council of europe, some russia was not excluded, that is, when all the statistics began to appear that we have a large number of positions against ukraine, russia was actively used so that in ukraine no matter what human rights will be actively violated, they focused very much on these statistics, we have suspicions about that, which are already voiced by this journalistic investigation, because we also followed the statistics. grew sharply grew some moments and it is not about the fact that these positions are justified or about the fact that there are no reasons to complain to the european court, but it is about the fact that there are these criteria for admissibility and er there could be stories that a person maybe there was a reason to complain, but the way it was drafted will most likely be recognized by the european court as a priori inadmissible complaint.

we already have a case when in the 14th or 15th year the court issued the first decision on inadmissibility regarding a- and complaints about the destroyed property of the victim applicants during the anti-terrorist operation in the occupied territory, the pronouns were presented by representatives, there were russian and there ukrainian as well, and they filed a fairly common complaint, that is, they were similar to each other , they were quite common and as evidence, there are also quite similar articles from e the european court was also attached to the mass media. he did not even communicate about this case, we did not see it as a decision . when it was all resolved, he indicated that it was possible and that there was an issue that people complained about, but taking into account the fact that the applicants who were represented e.e., representatives of lawyers filed very general

formal complaints and did not provide a corresponding evidence base, the court considers these complaints unfounded and unacceptable, and after this decision, over time, it recognized another 1,700 individual services as unacceptable, so automatically there are subsumables here, i just want to remind our viewers that the journalistic investigation you are talking about was prepared in the spring of 2021 by our colleagues from the scheme project. the trend that there are complaints filed by persons connected with russia against ukraine, this trend remains, but i will clarify with you. well, i think you will agree that these are not the only applicants against ukraine who are in the european court of human rights as we speak about well-founded complaints, which are most often complaints about which violations of human

rights did you say about certain systemic problems that exist, what are the most common complaints, those that we can, in principle, honorably listen to, these are the conditions of detention, the conditions of mainly repulse punishment is the duration of the proceedings, that is, the duration of the investigation and the trial. that is, these are the ones that are, well , such systemic ones, let’s say yes, with us, they are classical, yes. what in our country for a very long time, they have existed here, not just there, er, there is some individual approach to each specific cases and here we are already talking about the life of measures of a general nature and the involvement of all branches of government, somewhere to change the law, to change the practice of applying legislation, and somewhere to improve judicial practice. that is, these are complex problems, and the console will not solve the reason, these complaints will be brought to the european court, we will not

avoid them, does ukraine continue to pay compensations despite the difficult economic situation, that is, in those complaints in which the court decides in favor of the plaintiff against ukraine yes, we continue to pay these compensations even here is another moment from the moment of the full-scale invasion, the european court assessed the situation in ukraine , that is, it understood that there are objective reasons why we cannot actively communicate in cases where there are no decisions and well, actively work on cases where there should be a decision after the decision is made, that is, one part of the work is the payment of compensation, the second part is the elimination of the causes that