if there are 50 people there, it will already be an overload of this point of invincibility. we also heard that many people, many mayors invite people to look for options to move to the private sector, to look for some houses in the villages to move there in case there is no e by the way, we also wanted ruslan martsinkev - he is the mayor of ivano-frankivsk, he is one of those mayors who just called people from the city from high-rise buildings to go to the village, but in case of what maybe now we should go there and look closely at some houses where to move to whom. what do you think about this initiative? maybe we will raise agriculture in such a way that these mayors will not just urge people to move, but that they will urge them to go and first look at these houses, whether there is a whole roof or is this house from the window, we have doors, uh, is it in habitable condition at all, this is the

first, second, if you plan to go to the village well, if people who have never lived in the village, it will be a bit of an unusual experience because, well as minimum there must be firewood in order to heat this house, it is necessary that, for example, someone says that we must fill the cylinder with gas so that there is something to cook on, because usually in the villages it is a gas stove, stoves , and cooking in the oven is another one, let's say so, a challenge because well, i i know that my grandmother knew how to cook in the oven and my grandfather and father can, but my mother, for example, does not cook in the oven and she turned to my father with this question , so there is one more question, in addition, there must be special dishes for cooking in the liver if you are going to such extreme cases and other questions about the fact that if you want to use a stove or a rough one, someone once cleaned the chimney in this stove, because in fact it can be blocked there , birds can live there and build nests, it can

be simply cluttered and it must be cleaned in order to simply not cause a fire. well and in general, the issue of fire safety is extremely acute in this heating season, because we see that even in apartments, people use gas cylinders, use candles to light up the premises and well, i will tell you that we already lost 1,200 ukrainians due to fires at the beginning of this year, domestic fires. that's right, in the housing stock, we are poisoning them with carbon monoxide , and with the violation of safety rules, there are no such statistics at all, and for some reason, they do not keep this big question in ukraine, they only keep statistics of people who died for fires, but for carbon monoxide poisoning - this is a huge problem or , again, i urge everyone who uses candles to at least use gas cylinders , although against these but i understand that some people will do this, then at least you need to install

carbonation sensors in the apartments, this is co or carbon monoxide, smoke sensors, and it is desirable that they work on batteries, because when the centralized heat supply is turned off, i apologize, they will not work. and this, again, i will interrupt you, we will structure i will ask you separately about high-rise buildings, let's finish with the village, but i am from the village, for example, i have a wonderful idea of ​​what the stove looks like, what could be there besides birds in the old house, there is the grandmother, there is missouri and that's all until dawn and it won't stop you - it won't light up immediately when you come to the village with nadiya that there will be such beautiful pictures as on the internet the village hut in the window lights up there, you need to work normally and put it in order, all your recommendations to people who really listen to the mayors and decide, decide to go and taste the country style, check the condition of the house, and at least a well

, if you understand that there is already water there, you will have to get water somewhere, it does not flow to you from a pipe, check the condition of the electricity network and gas network, if it is there and predict reserves of eyebrows, gas, coal, anything that will allow you to live in the village, at least the basic safety rules, that is, if we ignite, what should be checked there, the ventilation should work at least somehow, well, usually there is a damper, at least remove the damper, because many people may not know about it know how to remove the check valve - check whether the draft is present at all check the chimney whether it is blocked or not it is possible to climb on the roof to see what is happening there because it will also not be very pleasant if something flies into your furnace in the winter from above so look at these moments and once again see if it didn't burn out somewhere because there have already been cases when the stove simply burned out or collapsed due to dampness from old age, so it should be inspected and preferably someone who

understands this should look at it because i'm afraid that, of course, the average city dweller, having never seen these buildings, may not understand that there is a problem with this e-e, in which places ideas should be eliminated, therefore , an audit of all heating networks of a solid fuel boiler, such as a furnace or a rough one, is also mandatory it is necessary to check to cover up the cracks with clay as it was done or by other means if they are well, that is, you need to work well there so that you speak correctly or before lighting the stove yes, and you must definitely make it known . the village council or the village council, so why did you come here, because now the people in the villages are also looking carefully and so that they do not mistake you for some sleazy friar or collaborator. how do you see the change in general, the transformation of the structure of the communities themselves connection with these new processes. how will this landscape and local self-government change in our country? quite a lot of them

moved to the villages after the start of russia's full-scale aggression against ukraine, because we saw that not everyone went to the cities and many people went to the villages and in principle, there are already many people in the villages who came from the city, some even liked it and some stayed there or simply so as not to look for another place to live, for now they are satisfied, so there are already a lot of people, they are from the east, from the south, they already live in the villages ah that's why here such a direct conflict of civilizations will not occur, that is, people already live absolutely normally in the villages who lived in the cities, and this will not be unexpected either for those who will come there or for those who live there, and well, there is no conflict situation there, and about the message of the village council well i will tell you from my own experience that when you come to the village and approach the house, even to the fence, there are already neighbors there, there is not much happening in the

village anymore and they are usually immediately interested in who you are, what you are doing here, whose children you are, whose grandchildren you are, and you they will ask about everything at once, but the notification of the city government and the village government will also be superfluous, because it is possible that there are some actions that will have to be taken, i don’t know how to register there as a vp, for example, but in this case, we are talking about the completed because these are people who are fleeing from e- war, and not from the cold, in this case it may have been because of what you say, this phenomenon is so purely rural when people are interested in what is happening in the neighbors because, well, in the cities, the soviets knocked out these horizontal connections in us, so when they killed for that you saw something there and told about it, people are like that, i don't see anything, i don't hear anything from my neighbor, i don't see that they are taking grain, i live for myself, but they broke the horizontal ties, and why did we have so many agencies in kyiv? yes, until february 24 because

people didn't know who lived in the neighboring apartment, they walked around for days and months with their hands and didn't ask and didn't even know their neighbors where they were from or what their name was. that's why it's very cool that we're coming back to it now, i understand who's in the neighboring apartment, who's in the neighboring house, who's on the neighboring street know understand i support, i help, there are no strangers , but let's talk about high-rise buildings, because now, yesterday they said there would be no light for a day, but earlier somewhere they renewed this morning, 70% of kyiv was without light, what to do in a high-rise building without electricity, if it will be a long full blackout, let's start from the fact that a high-rise building unfortunately or fortunately, it is a single organism or ukrainians very often distinguish that my apartment is like a house, my house is on the edge and everything else i am not interested in high-rise buildings, so it will not work because of actions the condition of this house depends on everyone, and for example , the

life and safety of your neighbors can depend on what you do in your apartment. well , including yours, so it is very important to understand that you cannot heat one apartment and hope that it will be warm because the walls of multi-apartment buildings , they are not designed for internal walls, i mean inter-apartment, inter-apartment corridors, they are not designed to retain heat in order to receive heat, only the exterior of the wall is intended, and therefore when you heat the apartment i do not know there is a violation of all norms, and it makes no sense, did you bring rust cylinders home or put a generator on the balcony and turn it on, and you think that you, mr. andriy, are from your facebook photos, i asked the editors to show it, you and the apostles, just the generator, i understand that, yes please show us this photo where someone is in the apartment . well, at first i thought that it was, like, its normal ventilation that comes out of these electric heaters, but it is a generator, we understand that, yes

, it is a gasoline generator that someone installed it is dangerous for you under the window, yes, it is extremely dangerous, because in kyiv there are already cases when people were poisoned by carbon monoxide from idle generators, when someone installed a generator and someone from above , for example, opened a window to ventilate. of these educational gases is due to the fact that you put a mini-mini car on the balcony or inside the house and you have mini-cars working and we know a lot of cases when people in garages suffocated and in garages there are many more holes from where you can for ventilation and imagine how it happens in the apartment next door or it is in the house someone put it with a good purpose to charge phones there to heat the kettle something else but as a result it is an extreme risk and in this case we are helping the enemy with our actions we are destroying ourselves that is here we

destroy the russians with missiles and shelling, but here we help and destroy ourselves to make it easier for them. well, please tell us some list of prohibited actions that should not be done. well, we are nobody were preparing to live in such conditions during the war. when there is no light, there is nothing. what can’t be done in a high-rise building? well, it’s simple enough. buy a fire extinguisher for each apartment, it is desirable to have one. if you carry something home, you have a gas cylinder , a generator, any candles. i highly recommend buying a fire extinguisher in every apartment, at least because if even you don't cause a fire, your actions, then no one is insured that it won't happen in the neighboring apartment, and i'll tell you that the middle room burns out in a total of 6 minutes and the alarm sensor rolls over, if it works, it is activated somewhere in the

third minute of the fire, that is, even if the firefighters heard in time and arrived in 5 minutes, then at least one room will be destroyed by fire, unfortunately, these are facts provided by the state emergency service , so a fire extinguisher - it should be like in every car, by law, you know that every car should have a fire extinguisher, and every living room should have a fire extinguisher. moreover , if we start using to open fire, that a person in a high-rise building is like a hostage and also to the adequacy of all his neighbors. who is thinking of putting something somewhere? yes, generators cannot be installed in high-rise buildings, there is no generator. there is one basic condition that saves your life. the generator must not be located closer to six meters from the windows and doors, that is, on the street. there can be one

generator for the entire house of the great, it is necessary for people to agree on how the generator, unfortunately, will not be able to meet the needs of the entire house, it is not, well, it is such a generator that will be able to provide, for example, the power supply of the elevators, the lighting of the apartment building and the water pumping pumps, but this generator is very expensive there, half a million million hryvnias; besides, don't forget that it needs to be refueled, and you will have to refuel it there every day for several thousand hryvnias to pay for fuel i am not saying to find it and bring it and pour it in there, but some people recommend installing large gas generators, but my advice is that it is better to install one small generator in order to be able to to heat up water, for example, to boil a kettle to drink tea, and to charge phones in one house, but in no case do not install generators, well, i just imagine that you will buy a generator, many people have already left ukrainian cities, and when there is no heat, it will come even more, it will turn out that you will be a generator, a huge

generator with a large fuel consumption, to be chased for the sake of several apartments, in fact, and gas generators, they can be in a private house or in a high-rise building, but you can’t in any in the case of generators, the nearest six meters to windows or doors, because what i said about them is that they have exhaust gases and these exhaust gases are killers of people. that is, you will simply get poisoned, at best, you will end up in the hospital, at worst, well, we will lose several more citizens of ukraine what to do, how to prepare first, what scenarios can there be that you are considering and how to prepare generators, you can’t, there is no light, there is no water, because there is no light, there is no heat, because the pumps do not work, i am in an apartment on some floor there, so what to prepare for the loss of for example, turning off the heat supply, we

are talking about the fact that the house can already be insulated, we see examples of how people insulate their own apartments , but do not insulate the house, as a result, we call it patchwork insulation, and as a result, this is so that you understand, well, in such blatant moments, it can lead to the destruction of the facade walls because a dew point is created that moves inside the wall and it creates moisture inside the wall, well , any moisture destroys the wall from freezing and thawing, so i highly recommend starting to insulate only comprehensively, not to insulate apartments, it is necessary to insulate the whole house, it can be done and now it does not interfere with the issue of resources, i understand that you can start at least some simple things, for example, the door closer must be closed in the entrance and all the windows that are on the technical floor on attics should be closed because people often complain that it is cold and the doors are wide open, you know when you come to kramatorsk, because you come to other cities, it is not the same place and the doors are wide open in

my apartment. well, everything is fine. mine is there people are used to thinking that it's not my absolute truth , but it's cold in your place and it will be cold because i said that the internal walls of the house are not designed to receive heat and all the cold that comes in from the street through the front door, open the door, it cools your house and if i also count you in the attic or on the roof, you have broken windows for hearing, then it turns out that you have such a ventilation shaft and you have heat escaping very quickly, just through your roof and you lose it, well, the easiest way. is it closed in high-rise buildings. it's somewhere in the attic below, well , it's a public area, so all the windows must be closed, because we know that some people like to smoke on the floors and open the windows or beat them there, if you break the glass, well, replace it with plywood. i don't know usb, but in any case, you need to close all the holes in the house from where your house can lose heat, because

if you have holes, well, there is no point in your house freezing very quickly and you will do nothing if you start to close all the holes they show the insulation, this is the thermodyning of the facade, this is the last thing that needs to be done, because there are still individual heating points, in fact, there is a lot of insulation of the heat pipes, we have pipes throughout the house that carry either a coolant or hot water, if they are not insulated at your place. which gets into the corridor and if you have a draft there, it just blows all this heat away from you, you lose it, therefore, in fact, the list of all his measures to prepare, you know, as a mouse says, it prepares its mink for the winter, it and insulates us with hay, just like in this mouse we need to insulate our houses so that it loses as little heat as possible, then in the event of a loss of heat supply, it will be possible to stay at home for up to a week, it will not lose heat as quickly as if it were not insulated, well, we have a week

left until the calendar winter, at least , but these are the things you are talking about. they only require joint actions when it is necessary to fully dress the house, and not to sculpt scraps there, because then these condensates will destroy the house, that is, it is necessary people to get out of the apartment, gather the neighbors and come to an agreement, let's get together brothers and sisters and let's do something right, today in ukraine there are support programs both at the local level and at the central level, there are support programs for the thermomodernization of apartment buildings, so we can turn to them, unfortunately, they are not very good now are actively working because now all the money goes either to the front or to the restoration of destroyed and damaged housing and we understand that now the main task is to survive, but in principle theoretically if you get together and do something, you can talk to the local self-government body about co-financing such expenses to ensure

heat, and how much can you insulate a high-rise building, that is, to dress it completely in such a fur coat in mink how much does it cost, it is from 5 to 10 million depending on how big the house is, so i would n't be in a hurry if i were you, because this is the last element of the coat. for example, they say, but where are the savings, but first you need to install a meter. first you need to install , etc., and an individual heating point - this is equipment that allows you to save money, because the temperature of the heat carrier is automatically regulated depending on whether it is cold or warm outside, it automatically regulates and you are not cold or not it's hot , you're comfortable and if you start with these simple balancing of the risers, because there are such situations when one apartment has +26 and one has 16 and why? in

order to balance this situation, you need install this, etc., and balance the risers, and there are many, many cheaper ways to reduce heat consumption. to gather in yourself, maybe put some kind of water tank or what should ukrainians do now, your advice is necessarily 18 liters of water per person, it is desirable that you have a supply of drinking water and it is desirable that there is a supply of technical water so that you can use it or do you understand that if you do not have heat supply in the city, then you will have heat , water, and water supply, there will simply be no water, but you must not forget that if the water supply stops, the drainage may also stop, that is, the sewage may not work. therefore, you need to be careful with this because

if you have a basement of your in your house, you have arranged a shelter, then in the event of a lack of water in the drainage system, there may be a situation where you will flood your own basement, so you must warn your neighbors about this, that you must be very economical use water regardless of whether it is already there, we are talking about what i said carbon monoxide sensor that needs to be installed that works on accumulators or batteries they need to be installed in your apartment if you have a fire alarm system it works from a centralized power supply system and it will not work if there is no power supply. well , you can take it, you buy them, in fact, there are expensive ukrainian manufacturers, you can order them on aliexpress or there are many different varieties on the market it's just that you understand that you need a carbon monoxide sensor and they are available today. well, in various modifications to do without advertising and you can

find them on the market. and what is very important in the case when people were poisoned by one gas, yes. well, i am, we are nasha the task is to save people, if your heating supply is lost, you want to save heat, it is desirable that everyone gather together in one room, uh, there were several layers of clothing, and why in one room, because a person also radiates heat, each person there is a small part, but more. did you see that when many people gather in one room , even if it's cold, it gets warmer after a while . so, use your own heat. well, no matter how funny it is, dogs, they also radiate heat, but i have two dogs sleeping with me, and i 'll tell you what it is it helps me a lot to save money, i don’t have to heat the bedroom very much, i have to hug myself, there are also dogs and cats and people, i remembered that there is such a house in hrazdha where they filmed the entire film shadows of forgotten ancestors in

transcarpathia and i was surprised because there example of the old transcarpathian house, there are rooms around the house where people lived, premises for cattle, and one of the arguments is just warmth, that is, in winter, when the house is completely covered with snow and frost , if the cattle wrapped people and warmed them with their heat, we even saw examples when it was recommended to put a tent in the apartment on the sofa, to put a tent in order to keep warm, but there is a problem that you will have very high humidity in the tent, so if you have a tent, then it should not be one of the cheap options that will provide normal circulation well, in fact, a tent is more like that . i think they will like the game for children very much, but as an option for a short time and experienced tourists suggest using winter sleeping bags, which today our guys use winter sleeping bags at the front. but again , they should not be the cheapest and some

more or less high-quality products that will provide you with warmth but again, should you sit in a cold apartment or move to a heating point or find neighbors, friends, relatives who live in such houses or apartments or houses where it is possible to provide more or less comfortable living, because i say that without water supply, electricity supply, heat supply, right now, the ministry of regions is counting on providing recommendations on how to drain the water supply and heat supply systems in case of freezing, even the position of the question and here we are i discussed with my colleagues how much it would take for a house without heating to freeze, if you didn't have one at home, you went there, it's freezing, how much does it take for this whole system to defrost, and it can get into such a state there is it not possible to use it, it may break the pipes , so they recommend draining the system if it has lasted for several days, the low

temperature continues and there is no restoration of the heat supply, there is no such thing. well, you understand that it should not be turned on, and here it depends on the condition of the houses and its level of insulation, because you know that we have there are different e categories that are determined by how well the house is insulated and thermally insulated. there, from ak-a to there e-e, how is its equipment? you saw that when you buy equipment, a plus plus a plus b are also equal energy consumption is the same for houses, houses, well, the least a house can be without heat supply is two or two days, it will last any house, and the better the house is insulated , the more it can stay there for up to a week. look at one's own house and i think that recommendations will be given for how and when to do it, although i really ask people who do not understand uh, uh, what they, well, that is, they do not have the qualifications accordingly, that it is better not to do it, that people who do it although they have been in the basement at least once, well, that's me in quotes

, at least once they understand that they disconnect. because it is possible not to disconnect, it will be called that later it will be much more expensive to restore it, and there is a big caveat that will it be possible to refill the heating system after you drain it, and that's why now we are considering this option as the right way to create such recommendations that will allow us to go through this heating season more or less without losses, if a person goes abroad, leaves his home, locks it, what should be done in apartment in the building is now a big question because it is desirable to leave the keys to someone who is in ukraine so that you can get in because there can be anything from an accident to a situation when you need to drain the systems and there may be a need to get into this apartment. therefore, the first thing is - this is to leave the keys with someone in ukraine, and the second is to inform

the service organization that serves your house that you will not be there and to inform the neighbors who live next to you that you will not be there, just in case some saboteurs break into your house apartment and they will live there because you don't have one in ukraine, at least the neighbors will understand that something is wrong and will call the law enforcement agencies to check the status of these residents of your home and it is very important boilers yes, we have a lot of them in ukraine today people use boilers to get hot water , eh, there are instructions, it is desirable, of course, my request is to involve specialists for all the manipulations that you will carry out, but if you want to do it yourself , try to follow the instructions as much as possible eh drain the water from the boiler or, again, if it freezes, there will be about 100 liters of water on your floor, and in the best case, it will simply flood your apartment, in the worst, there may be some kind of situation with the electricity supply of your apartment and there may

be a fire, and as a result, you will have trouble not only with my apartment, but also with the responsibility to the neighbors for this month, the boiler will break, and inside the batteries, the same situation is the same, that we have water in the radiators and the boiler, which must be drained and tried to drain from all places where it can be well, roughly speaking, if you leave a sink or a toilet, you also have water there all the time, and this water can freeze if well, a certain situation may arise as a result of this, which is difficult to predict, such as draining or draining this water or add at least a grain of salt there - this is such a folk method, salt water freezes longer and it will do so for a longer time, so throw it away at least well, you can disassemble these sanitary facilities and drain them and if there is an opportunity , if not, i say give some means that will allow well, extend the period of freezing of this, well

, or will it be prevented at all by the freezing of water. and how do you feel about the prospect of a possible full or partial evacuation? the mayor of kyiv said that we do not want these scenarios, but if suddenly, a partial evacuation of the city will be carried out, how do you like it? you see, where to evacuate people, i am seriously considering such possibilities, because there are no places where such a large number of people can be placed in ukraine , so this is rather an attempt to somehow provoke people to the point that they independently start to leave the city and reduce the load on its infrastructure. how do you feel about the calls to leave the city? we discussed a little with the cities and even from the country there was a kind of statement from

the management of the dtek, then it was kind of denied in order not to burden the electrical systems. is it better for ukrainians to go abroad or not ? better from their point of view, it is absolutely clear that they want to reduce the load on the system because, well, there are problems with generation, there are problems with transmission. therefore, it will be, but the question is that now there is already a question how many people from those who went abroad will return to ukraine, i.e. ukraine is losing its human capital at a frantic pace, and if we ask people to leave, they will not leave, but those who leave may not return because of the fact that uh and because of different conditions, that's the question well, in my opinion, we should keep as many ukrainians as possible in ukraine and give them the opportunity to live here, if not comfortably. well, at least with minimal comfort, so that i understand that there is a problem now with generation and everything else, but if we