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representatives of the commander-in-chief a-a they don't understand er-e not that how we conduct elections, they don't understand at all who we are, what kind of nation we are er-e what are our values, where do we aspire and what do we want, they are stuck in this scoop e- there was an attempt in 1991 for them to escape, and unfortunately it did not end in anything, and for the past 20 years putin has only been asking them again and again in that scoop about some ice cream and sausage for 2.20 each, that is all their values ​​for today day even the thought of what they should think is uh-uh is repulsed as completely alien to that uh well, we can only buy into some reason and some logic with the russians, we can only state what
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is happening uh, and by the way, notice how it pisses them off when we stupidly laugh at them at their stupidity over i drove absolutely some kind of impassability well , well, well, absolutely. thank you, it was andriy shapovalov, the head of the center for countering disinformation at the national security and defense radio. so, it was quite difficult for us to conduct the broadcast today, despite the fact that we had lights everywhere. but as you can see, nevertheless, we are with you and we will remain with you and everything will work out for us in the end, no one will be able to turn off anything for us, we will be, we are and we will defeat everyone, so hold on and we will meet on november 27, lviv stadium, ukraine, a match of the carpathian professional football league vs. polissia lviv vs. zhytomyr battle at the top of the
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tournament table who will be the winner guests or hosts who will get three scoring points the 14th round of the first league of the ukrainian football championship we expect a productive game and impressive goals from the teams on november 27, watch football together with the title sponsor of fc karpaty live broadcast of the match karpaty lviv polissia zhytomyr on youtube pre-match studio at 11:30 start of the match at 12:00 on the air from washington voice of america ukrainian service program time time i am yuliya yarmolenko congratulations while putin continues to impress ukrainian energy systems, the united states is working to ensure that the
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light does not go out, said the head of the us agency for international development, samantha paver, as of friday, usaid has already sent more than a thousand electric generators that will help hospitals , schools, rescue services, state institutions and service providers to continue their activities during the war. this is reported in the us embassy in kyiv, the american ambassador bridget bring this day , she took part in the state services of special communication and information protection of ukraine, soon to ukraine generators will arrive from france, the minister of foreign affairs of the country, catherine coulon, announced this and reminded that strikes on civilian infrastructure are military crimes, additional generators for ukraine are also sent from germany, a hundred in addition to the 135 sent earlier, and there are dollars for the purchase of generators and lighting devices that
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work on solar energy. conference on friday. already next week , the foreign ministers of the alliance countries will meet in bucharest. what about the idea of ​​poland to transfer the patriot system to the country that berlin proposed in warsaw stoltenberg stressed that this decision should be adopted by the states at the national level of the united nations. we have already provided ukraine with significant air defense systems, in particular, modern systems. germany has provided ukraine with a modern air defense system . turn to provide air defense in ukraine, but specific decisions regarding specific capacities are left to the discretion of individual countries, in germany they say
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are discussing the idea with the allies, let me remind you that berlin proposed the patriot system to warsaw to help protect their airspace after a missile fell in poland last week that killed two people, later the polish defense minister asked germany to send the system to ukraine and will have a month to advise to the unfinished legislative initiatives before the christmas holidays, this is the time, according to congressman democrat raja krishna morty, legislators of the old convocation can approve funding for ukraine in the amount of almost 38 billion dollars, my colleague kateryna lisonova talked with the congressman about the prospect of approving this funding, and whether support for ukraine will change under the republican majority in the house of representatives. you support many pro-ukrainian initiatives in the congress. why do you think this is important? we support ukraine because
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ukraine is fighting for protection and freedom of all democracies, ukraine is fighting today so that we do not have to fight tomorrow, and therefore it is our moral imperative and duty, but it is also our the national interest to do everything. for ukrainians to succeed, do you see any changes after these midterm elections in terms of support for ukraine? i think that support will continue. the vast majority of americans support the people of ukraine, and this is reflected in the position of legislators who represent their interests in congress. i predict that we will provide as much assistance as much. it will be necessary to give the age that the russians, based on the results of the intervals, expressed to ukraine with the opposition the need to strengthen checks on any aid provided to ukraine if it causes concerns i think we can agree on additional measures that will ensure the supervision of
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further assistance, but we must fundamentally support the ukrainian people, they are fighting bravely and repelling the russian offensive in a way that no one could even predict, especially after the ukrainians recaptured kherson and also received a number of combat victories on other fronts i believe that you should help them go all the way what do you think humanitarian, economic or military support should be focused on now in ukraine, it is obvious that the humanitarian crisis is urgent , especially with the approach of the lands, millions of ukrainians are still leaving their homes, we are talking about both internally displaced persons and those who ended up behind the people, they also face economic problems. because during the war and constant attacks , their businesses are closed and so tax revenues they cannot provide support to the government as it would be in a normal situation well, we
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have to continue the support in the military plan, we have to make sure that they do not run out basic supplies we have to provide them with everything necessary to end the struggle the white house administrator has already asked congress for almost $38 billion in additional aid for ukraine when do you think congress will vote on this, what are the deadlines and does congress even support the new aid package for ukraine i think that this issue will be included in the allocation of negotiations on general expenses at the end of the year, i hope that everything will be agreed before christmas, based on my conversations with republican colleagues, they are also interested in order to agree on this package and sign it by the end of the year. so, do you think that this aid package will be voted on by the current congress or by a new one? i think that the current congress has now started the so-called lame duck session, these are meetings that are held after the elections before the new
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congress begins. it has been a busy four working weeks, we have a lot of unfinished business, but i hope that we will have time to agree on this package. it is important that we send a strong signal to the russians, as well as to all the enemies of ukraine, that we will support ukrainians and help them survive this winter, which will not be easy before the white house has invited an official request for approval of almost 38 billion dollars . i'm not sure about that as you know the previous package set $40 billion and many called it a pretty powerful allocation i think right now when congress is asking questions about checking the money that's already being spent legislators want to establish such checks first, because then they allocate additional money, but despite all these moments, we have to do what is
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necessary. i am a member of the congressional committee on intelligence, i will consider this package based on what ukrainians need now, what we have and what we can do that the aid allocated to ukraine is too large, others say that if you compare this amount with the defense budget of the united states, it is relatively small funds that protect the united states itself from russia what your assessment is so busy with me i think so let's do what is necessary by spending money now to help ukrainians give age or russians we save countless amounts and human lives in the future it's about american lives and american money so what let's approach this sensibly i believe that the ukrainians are doing everything to the best of their ability and the help we provide , i don't think anyone expected such impressive combat successes that the ukrainians have demonstrated over the past nine months. let's go to the end thank you, thank you katerina ireland, the parliaments of
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moldova and romania adopted resolutions in which the mass famine of 32-33 years, the holodomor, was recognized as an act of genocide of the ukrainian people. a few years ago, similar resolutions were approved in the us senate and house of representatives, but the struggle for official recognition at the state level continues the day before in in washington, the memory of the victims of the artificial famine was honored at the holodomor memorial in the center of the capital. the ceremony was attended by representatives of the ukrainian diaspora, as well as the ambassador of ukraine to the united states. oksana markarova and the us undersecretary for energy, former ambassador to ukraine jeffrey pite, earlier this week president joe biden issued a statement in which he emphasized that we honor the memory of all those who died in this heartless tragedy and pay tribute to the resilience of the ukrainian people who endured destruction and tyranny to ultimately create free and
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democratic society in an interview with my colleagues tetyana vorozhko ambassador of ukraine oksana markarova stressed that today's russian attack is a continuation of moscow's genocidal policy towards ukrainian people, it is absolutely obvious that what is happening now is a continuation of what happened during the repressions during the soviet union, it is a continuation of the famine, it is a continuation of the terrible attack on kyiv after ukraine gained independence in 1918 , and it is possible to delve very far into history that at one time no one did not stand up for the defense of ukraine, the fact that at one time we were not able in the 30s, in the 32nd, in the 33rd year, because we did not have our statehood at that time, to defend ourselves, this is what freed the hands of the russians further, further in 39 mu year and on february 14 and 24, today we are already well- armed farmers we have been independent for 30 years 31 years 30
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years before the beginning of this new phase of aggression we have grown up a generation that has never lived under occupation this is very important despite the fact that of course we are much less, much less, we have weapons, much fewer people than in russia, but we know what we are fighting for and what distinguishes us very much from the 20th century. this is that today the whole civilized world is with us. i would never compare one with another, i mean that famine killed millions of people but it is clear that just as 90 years ago we saw an attempt to turn one of the richest agricultural countries in the world into a famine, today there is an attempt to use energy against a country with so many energy resources as a weapon against ukraine and against the people of ukraine, the system of high-precision weapons seems inexhaustible other weapons of the kremlin
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, disinformation, what are the moscow propagandists focusing on, how are they changing the tactics of influencing external and internal audiences, about it we have the opportunity to talk with the head of the stopfei organization and the director of the mogilan school of journalism yevhen fedchenko yevhena thank you very much for joining our studio today. he has been researching russian propaganda and disinformation for more than a year. how have the kremlin's narratives changed with the start of a full-scale russian war? actually, the methods of conducting this information war against ukraine well , in fact, the fact that we have been researching this problem for 8 years, almost 9, helps us to look at it from an erythro perspective to put all these messages that they are trying to convey to ukraine and the russian audience and the world audience. and that we notice that some of these messages have been repeated for many years, and unfortunately, everywhere in the world, you can still find an audience that continues to believe in it, and
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let me remind you that these are, for example, the same messages with which russia began the invasion in february of this year, explaining that either ukraine is not a real state that does not exist, as putin tried to prove, or that ukraine is engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction, for example, and unfortunately for such messages, as much as we did not want to counteract this in different parts of the world, there is still an audience ready to believe in it and in addition, we must understand that the russian disinformation system to some extent remains so in an undisclosed form, although in some places sanctions have been introduced against it, it seems like a level of trust it should already be much lower, especially in the light of recent events, but it does not lose its hope to regain its influence, especially what concerns the audience in the countries of the so-called global south. it is clear in ukraine, probably the russian deformation
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is now less experienced in the west also, but which countries are still the most favorable for perceiving this russian disinformation, first of all, russia wants to maintain its influence on those countries that are partners of ukraine. as paradoxical as it sounds , because its interests are increasing the influence of disinformation to make ukraine receive less aid, including military aid, including financial aid, i.e. everything that will affect the stability of ukraine, this is exactly what russia wants to push various its narratives that will undermine the image of ukraine as a reliable partner or as a partner that effectively uses the resources provided to wage this struggle, and it also tries to hold ukraine responsible for the crises that are unfolding in the world, it can be the energy crisis, it can to be behind the food crisis
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in certain financial markets and so on, that is, in all these cases, russia explains that the blame for this all rests on ukraine, not on the fact that russia started a war against ukraine and is waging this war, and what they say is the problem that ukraine continues this war or ukraine does not want to stop this war or ukraine does not want to sit down at the negotiating table and such e-messages appear in waves like these and now we see machine guns one after another russia's attempt is again to hit such pain points in order to influence the decision-making process in those countries that are our allies, this is, so to speak, a priority unit for them, has the level of perception of this russian disinformation changed before february 24 and now and yes and no, that is, for example, from
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the point of view of people who are in ukraine. it seems that everything should look like this, that after february 24, the world will never be the same as it was before, this is a myth, and this is a certain illusion, as it were we wanted to see the world as it is, and unfortunately, here ukraine will compete with many other events that are happening in the world. ukraine will also see a decrease in the attention of the world press to what is happening, and ukraine will also see a lot of doubts about itself and they will also to warm up what russia wants to call fatigue from ukraine, which is also just coming , we need to fight with this, and it is very important here that we do not fall into the trap of perceiving that the whole world treats this problem as we treat we because for many people this is one of the dramatic events that will take place around them, and we
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must constantly build communication in this way so that the world understands that this war is ongoing, so that the world understands that this is not just a war of ukraine against russia that this is a global war, it cannot be won in any one place, or does it refer to kinetic war, or does it refer to the war against disinformation , it cannot be won only by some single segment, and everywhere else it will either continue to exist or there will be pretend that it doesn’t exist because there are so many such temptations and illusions to believe that, for example , ukraine has already won the information component of the war and we can sit down and fold our hands to wait for what will happen next, how can we make these narratives which russia is currently pushing, especially when russia is not making progress on the battlefield, we know that ukrainian troops are retaking city after city, village after village, and probably russia is currently intensifying its
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disinformation campaign about what you said in order to persuade, for example, the west not to help ukraine as much as the event is helping now. what can ukraine do at this time so that these narratives do not work? you are absolutely right. that is, the less success russia has on the kinetic front, the more it is needed. to justify everything to one's home audience , to call one's defeats one's victories, and secondly, to compensate for this, one must at the international level also turn one's defeats into one's negotiation positions, this is what russia is trying to do, therefore, firstly, ukraine should ah, at such moments, we should communicate even more about ourselves about this war, and we need to find some uh, new nuances with the help of which to explain uh, how this war will take place in the future.
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support and we also need, on the one hand , to continue to fight disinformation, as if we are now in the positions we were in eight years ago, and on the other hand, to build our own strategic communication, so that we do not simply respond to these challenges which is already being created by russia and so that we also try to be ahead of it it is very difficult and again no democratic country can compete with authoritarian countries in the way they build their disinformation campaign and how we build it her, for example, on democratic positions, but it is possible to do and it is constantly necessary to invent some new ways to draw attention to this war , and it remains only if about this war, this war has probably become the first that actually takes place online, a lot of people see what is happening. does
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it help to fight by disinformation, or in principle, the deformation works through other channels, is this really the first war that was built so much with the help of disinformation, but it has such a total presence in social networks on the one hand, it helps, on the other hand, it is so saturated with information that very often, for example, people can distinguish what is true or false, what is important, and what is secondary, and that is why social media both help draw attention to this war and dilute important things with something very -very secondary to ivan thank you very much for this conversation very much appreciated the expertise and we continue the release to the very end the story about tatu illinois who inspired her dad to a big project with the help of ukraine liliya asked parents to help ukrainian children in response, her dad was engaged in searching for and sending
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ambulances to ukraine, to date he has already sent at least 20 ambulances and several fire engines with the family of american philanthropists in chicago my colleagues iryna matviychuk pavlo terekhov seven-year-old lily manson is learning to speak with her dad in ukrainian , do you know how to say hello, thank you, thank you, even a year ago, little lily from ilya noysu did not know about the existence of ukraine. at the end of february, she found out that somewhere far across the ocean, a big war started. i was watching the news with my dad and there was a war on the news. my dad wanted to change the channel so that i wouldn't see terrible things, but i wanted to help. i started to pray for them before i left.
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her dad kris tells her places. she asked her parents about ukrainian children and often lamented how disturbing it was that one evening we were praying and she asked: let's pray for the people of ukraine. this surprised my wife and me. i was surprised then we said of course let's go for ukraine it lasted for several days, we saw that it worries her and then for a moment she told me dad and we can somehow help them the main thing is that lily knows about the war in ukraine that there are many children suffering and i knew that such kids as old as mine suffered had to evacuate their homes maybe lost parents i really just wanted to help in any way her dad chris manson ex military now works in
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communications for a medical company that's why after his daughter's request, he had the idea to try to find ambulances for ukrainian needs, i am, of course, an average american, i called a friend with whom i worked and told him about my idea, and he was like this. this is crazy, but i suggested calling the local medical center and asking if they have an ambulance which can be given to charity, i called there and explained the situation and their only question was to me what kind of car do i need with gasoline or diesel yes we sent the first ambulance to ukraine every ambulance that sends a crisis with support caring people is equipped with the necessary medical equipment monitors defibrillators different types of medical transportation of the injured, when we agree on ambulances we always ask people to fill the car with as much equipment as possible so that the car is ready to go to major
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services these cars are able to independently generate heat and electricity to meet medical needs while driving chris in the reasonable have inventory inside when the engine is running heat and electricity is produced actually it is a generator on wheels and recently we they got an ambulance that has solar panels, so on this car they will never worry that the batteries might sit there, which will attract the attention of potential benefactors, the crisis arranges celebrations for the official handover of cars during these events, politicians, businessmen or local government officials sign cars that will go to ukraine, such assistance is already available for the car itself proof of our support, but signing an ambulance or fire brigade is a kind of message to ukrainians that they are not alone in our country,
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senators signed cars, people in ukraine will see and feel support, almost every car has one special signature from little lily. i drew a heart and the number 19. this is the 19th car. i drew a sunflower because sunflowers are the national flower of ukraine. lilies . her dad, she also knows from dad that there is delicious food and wonderful people in ukraine. i would like to tell the ukrainian children that he will soon be gone, and my dad and my mom and i are also very proud that they are like that brave and went through so many trials. before the war in ukraine, the crisis was never abroad, but at the beginning of the charity project, he said he felt the
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need to go to ukraine and see with his own eyes where these medical vehicles end up on the first trip to ukraine. i know that ukraine will never lose this war i talked to people i saw them and they inspired me a lot when i came back i said to myself we need to redouble our efforts and find more ambulances to help people in ukraine my wife is perceives it as my vocation from god mykhailo in uniform during the trip tells about the crisis, sometimes had to hide from shelling or change routes, however, adds that he could not return to his daughter without ukrainian chocolate or i told him ok , if you are going to ukraine, at least bring me some ukrainian chocolate and that it was cool, he brought two or three boxes of ukrainian chocolate, her dad has already
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been to ukraine several times in the past few months, in the spring lily promised him a cake if the crisis delivers 20 cars to ukraine victoriously they celebrated their twentieth birthday at the end of october. he received a chocolate cake with vanilla cream and the number 20 was written on it. krit hopes to double this number by the end of the year. in addition, he says that he started receiving american fire engines for ukraine. lily signs this fire engine and thinks about what american food she will treat ukrainians someday. children, because i think ukrainian children would like our burgers, he makes very tasty burgers. and many more children would like our corn and barbecue in seven months of his work, kryz assures i never once doubted the correctness of what he is doing for ukraine. i had several times
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when tears did not come back. once in ukraine, they gave me a list of things that they needed to equip ambulances, and on that list were pediatric bags. it is a plastic thing that looks like a bottle. which you sometimes see in movies and with a shower to help a person breathe and it has a mask i made an agreement and they sent me a lot of them when i opened the box and saw these bags and the mask next to these bags was so small it means that there are babies in ukraine who cannot breathe, and the life of these newborns depends on the one who squeezes this bag, when i saw them, i was very moved, i cried, electric energy, cruz manson's interview, the phone is constantly ringing, he is arranging for the next ambulance, he has now agreed on 29 quick as it will be 30 maybe we will tell mom and one more cake

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