that you have to change the kved now, go, throw away all your cases, go to the state registrar, you have little time left because the legislation has changed, this kved is no longer suitable. well, you say that the state, on the contrary, should provide some benefits in these conditions, that it is simply not yet the tax office has not been reorganized, and here, in principle , a lot will depend on the government, because there are sedentary officials who, well, maybe they just don't feel these problems, they probably already have everything there, including electricity, generators, and communication practically there the infrastructure just works for them, they are like in the old joke about brezhnev and a bottle of vodka, if not why? here is a bundle, in my opinion, an ear, yes , they think well, what is the problem with giving some kind of reporting , what is the problem? that is, here, well, the consciousness must change. i generally thought that there should be some legislative initiative on the part of the parliament, and it is necessary, for example, to form some date

. -is let's say, obtaining some new information or reissuing some permits. for example , the permit period has expired, or here is an example with a permit, but now it simply or automatically extends the permit period, or, for example, a request to change the permit is postponed until the time when it has already been fixed energy system, that is, there should be some legislative decisions this year through mobile communication, but he called and said that you must change the kved . you have a few days left and i thought that he is still hiding from him, hiding from him, or i won’t call him, but in this transition to cash payments, from the point of view of the country’s economy, it is good and bad. does it mean nothing? the steps of the market

economy, you know how evolution is. that is, it adapts to external circumstances that are changing, that is, now. these are the circumstances that it will adapt to. this is like the evolution of living beings . tower creatures, the operating conditions of business entities have changed in the same way, and they will adapt to this. the state in this regard must either help, and then this process will be less painful for business and the crisis will be amortized, or maybe you are such nonsense just to evaluate someone who is against this adjustment. well, then we will simply deepen this crisis even more. well, at the beginning of the war, the state provided certain benefits and tax and benefits for the import of goods, yes, we canceled the vat, but then all this has been returned now, in these conditions, how realistic is it that the state will go to support business, because, frankly, i have many businessmen friends, and i

communicate with them there not every day, but about once a week, and i feel it in the voice more and more, and it is a disappointment amount and uh they are talking about one thing i don't know what to do next i was there i was standing on the edge i have a close relative there eh a hundred yes he says i was on eh first he turned on the light i was there i had two ways or to close because, well, first of all, the volume of work decreased by two times, or look for money somewhere to buy a generator somewhere, what does it cost there, well, for a service station, there are 10-15-20 thousand dollars to somehow work yes, and diesel is also constantly, you have to spend money every month, probably an amount of you don't earn that much, the business is in extremely difficult conditions that you can use recipes and ways

of supporting the state of small and medium-sized businesses in order for it to work, generate some kind of money flow and at least keep those jobs that are available. well unfortunately, a significant reduction in taxes it will not help now because the problem is not in taxes, but in connecting to electricity. that is , it is an infrastructure problem of business introduction. well , for example, you can introduce e-e taxes there, which will be several times lower, but because of this, business problems with connection to electricity are not caused by this the problem will not disappear, so i think that the state, first of all, should provide business stabilization loans, and in this regard, it is very bad that our national bank has a policy of extremely high interest rates of 25% of the discount rate, this means that you can now take a loan from the bank for more than 30%. well, no business can withstand such a loan right now, so there should be mass concessional stabilization loans at a minimum interest rate so

that the business can reorganize and structurally prepare itself for the winter. that is, it should be a kind of winter loan relatively speaking, you can allocate how much there is for micro -entrepreneurship, small business, medium-sized business, for example, there is a million hryvnias, there are 5 million 10 well, there in depending on the large-scale, that is, winter loans , the state should launch a winter loan program under one there 2%. i can generally under 0%. because as a mobile operator, even six generators were bought, well, the fact is that our banks have now put uah 370 billion into deposit certificates of the national bank, that is, instead of lending to the economy, they are buying deposit certificates of the national bank, in fact they are using the national bank. the national bank has become a depository e-e cell for commercial of banks, uh, live money, suddenly, future money, that is, they actually turn it into what the national bank allegedly printed and gave to the money economy , and they return this money back to the national bank, and in fact,

the national bank turned into such an uh a portfolio for storing money for commercial banks, that is, the money does not go into the economy, and now you have to massively issue such winter loans for adapting business to such difficult conditions, plus , and give technological grants, for example, hmm if the state has, for example, the opportunity to massively bury the same generators and issue them to small entrepreneurs as a technological schedule. well, you, for example, have a small cafe, you come and show, well , that is, you show documents that you have this cafe, the state issues these technological grands in the form of this generator, that is, again after all , this could be a help for business and for large enterprises there, large generators there can also be loans or technological grids , that is, the state must miss some of its own policy in this regard, our ministry of economy

has not said its word yet. we name how long it can last. well, i think that if the state does not help, then we will see from january, in fact, the death of large segments of small and medium-sized businesses, and again, if it is lost, we say it must be state compensation programs for the cost of this purchased fuel well, of course, there may be some manipulations, but it is necessary to introduce some simple control systems, so that, for example, there are certain calculations and the state, for example, there is 30-40% of the cost of this fuel so that it compensates business for this in order for business to continue to work ah, that is, such programs should simply be with us still uh well, officials, it is quite clumsy with us, but how quickly our business adapts, oh

officials are just as slowly adapting to what is changing. who is responsible for this today in the state, who should initiate this is the responsibility of the ministry of economy, and the ministry of economy . winter for business and a program for compensating the cost of fuel, which business buys for the operation of these generators. that is, there should be three such main programs, such as a winter credit, technological grants and compensation for the cost of fuel, but nothing about these programs somewhere. i think that at the end of february, here is the initiative of the cabinet of ministers on the abolition of taxes, the payment of duty and vat on a diesel generator, yes, on a generator. yes, when did they appear? it appeared two weeks ago. and in two weeks before the calendar winter, and something interesting is that the abolition of vat on ukrainian-made diesel generators was not introduced, that is, in fact, in parallel with the fact that they

helped to establish imported ones, they killed their production, but you even took up the question. they introduced the cabinet of ministers made it, not without understanding the technical component , why such a decision was made, but they introduced the abolition of customs duties and vat in the draft cabinet resolution regarding the fight against the pandemic of 19 and the importers who imported these generators encountered a problem, yes. they are contacting the customs, we brought how do we apply for this benefit, they say, well, the customs office says, apparently, you need some kind of certificate from the ministry of health to your generators have something to do with the fight against kovi, because the cabinet of ministers wrote its decision precisely in the context the fight against covid-19, the business says well, how should i go to the ministry of health to get some kind of certificate, the customs office says and what do you suggest that we file now and then get a criminal case and we only have it last

week, some not very understandable document of the cabinet of ministers' explanation appeared, which regulates how to do it and then somehow they started to issue these generators with this benefit, because before that no one knows at all. we have a situation where the cabinet of ministers issued an order to cancel it, and the containers with these goods just stood at the customs for two weeks ago that no one knew in what forms, but here is another important thing, that when you give a benefit for an imported product, you have the same benefit for the national product of the producer, the domestic producer is not on equal terms with the tamarians, does the state not understand this, well, that is, the state, the ministry of economy is here yes, it is necessary. well, you do not have the state here in general, here are specific officials . as the classics said, every defeat has a name and a surname

. to develop these programs and it has to develop the relevant draft laws and submit them to the parliament from the cabinet of ministers because the cabinet is the subject of the legislative initiative and it has to initiate consideration of the proposal minus the special ones and here you have to act very quickly because well uh we always have some kind of suddenness, but suddenly winter came, in principle, the strikes on the infrastructure that the russians inflicted were all predicted back in the spring, in principle, everyone expected that as soon as winter began, they would strike at the energy infrastructure here a very important question is that already in the summer it was necessary to purchase repair kits for the same transformers that will be manufactured there because there are long deadlines. and we would have 4-5 repair kits for each critical position there in order to quickly change all transformers and get out of this situation now and now we are told that there is one transformer six to eight months three to

manufacture, that is, we had about this time, but they did not take advantage of it when such an opportunity was . generators, she had to bring generators from germany, turkey, because her physical map in the fall, in september, in october, to saturate the domestic market , the winter loan program should have been in the summer, and state technology grants, because in the summer, because the state has the opportunity to purchase large batches of e generators and e-e find them and this especially applies to high-power generators and the e-compensation program. they should have been developed even earlier, and now they are keeping the generators for themselves because they do not know what kind of winter they will have. will there be enough power and even money for this energy is under energy problems under their solution, yes. that is, we can direct this money to the purchase, we should have directed it to the purchase of this necessary equipment, we just have officials, they

understand what, for example, well, when a famine begins, they distribute bread. yes, now there is an infrastructure famine, and it can be called what russia is doing can be called an infrastructural famine, but the fact is that they are actually now acting against ukraine, the russians , therefore, if they usually give out bread, if there is an infrastructural famine, then the state has understand that in january, it may even be necessary to distribute fuel to small and medium-sized businesses so that their generators are turned on and they can work. well, because there will be no reason why small businesses are so important. yes, let's talk about it all the time. which is produced by large factories even more, what is the greater importance of the medium-sized business itself, i just look at these small cafes and the work points of my medium-sized business, and they are actually transformed on cells, uh, where people can gather, where there are electricity connection points, where you can charge your phone, that is, where it is warm, you can drink coffee there

, and you can even hear the news, because many people already do not know what is happening because there is no internet i mean, these are actually such e-e cells and they are created here as their e-e points of stability yes or there inviolability of inviolability yes and we need to create these cells of anonymity on the basis of small and medium-sized businesses there is an online store in kyiv will not name his but he also uh extension cords there, everyone came there, so many people when the state just makes these points of unbreakability, and it approaches this process bureaucratically, it happens like, for example, i see the photo, it says welding points, i write below that there is no electricity, and it is necessary to make these points of unbreakability on to the base of such small and medium-sized business centers, because this is the first time you know for sure that it will work. because there is an interested person, an entrepreneur who is interested in making his business work, not just an official who is there

i reported that there is some kind of school that has this point open, but maybe pavel is not there or the generator is broken. and the entrepreneur himself is interested, and secondly, this is an opportunity for the work of this business, and he will pay taxes, he will create jobs . i will pay wages, that is, everyone has, for example, such a small cafe, well, there are 2-3 jobs there, yes. and that is, people receive wages, it is some kind of taxes, some people submit work, people have the opportunity to go somewhere to do something for it, to receive some money, their work is attracts customers, people come in and have the opportunity to buy some products because this is the same supply chain, here is an example of the same butcher shop . - 4 cooks - work in the kitchen , make something, there are sellers, there are cashiers. yes, there are

suppliers who bring goods there and you buy them there, you consume their products, you generate the movement of money, and now there is no light, cooking is no longer working , everything is shrinking, shrinking, shrinking, and we and in addition to the fact that we are officially told that there are about 30 or 40 in the country, the figures differ about the percentage of unemployment in the country after 40. yes, we are getting an increase in these people, and the solution to the problem on the surface is that the state should provide the opportunity, and the people first get soft business loans secondly provide them with power supply systems yes yes if you can't us we understand the war on absence the enemy is destroying our substations okay but this is reality yes give people access to these generators they will bear the costs of servicing them there, purchasing fuel, but they will work. this is actually the model of the circulation economy, when they circulate money between different subjects

, contractors, and one business starts work with four or five more businesses that supply it with materials, some products and let's imagine such others now, for example, a big city megapolis, these centers of small and medium-sized businesses are centers of life, in fact, if they close, it is actually a dark city, well, in general, people close in their apartments and in which there is no light, sometimes there is no running water, this is much more, in my opinion, a negative scenario that could happen if such cells continued to function as a business. but i like that a small shop and an online store are waiting there for a dialogue with the state there to say that here is the point of invincibility and put them on the website on the map where they showed it themselves, well, people heard, passed on sundresses, the radio worked, people came to recharge there, the phone is standing, they are dreaming, aren’t you can you track them down until february? they will be exhausted because i can even see now those who

worked there on the generator there for 7-8 hours, they are now three or four hours simply because the automation yes because they saw the gas stations and well done too yes i saw the excitement on fuel has raised the cost of fuel there by approximately uah 1.5-2, yes, that is, additionally by approximately 5% more expensive fuel, and this puts a burden already on the business, here is also a question, well , you can’t subsidize indefinitely and work in the red yes you you can make a point of invincibility and give people coffee for free, again with hope what is it? in a week or two it will end, it will end, it will not end, or the state will come to meet you and say we have reacted . er, fuel coupons, which, for example, can be brought to action by the way. by the way, i offered this back in the spring, when there was a mass movement and problems

. i am sure you will then for the mass, well, for the displaced people who are there, for example, from the east to the west and they didn't have money, for example, i said that it is possible to withdraw fuels and they tie them to the action, but this idea did not work then, and now the same idea can be launched for my medium-sized business, that is , there are electronic and paper electronic fuels, then they tie to actions, and in fact, the action also tightens you, the entrepreneur, there is all the information there, and in fact , you can set the appropriate limits for each entrepreneur and distribute these electronic fuel coupons at the enterprise, for example, he went there with 100 liters of pavlov that he bought from the state for example, i just compensated him for 30 l, and he already has a much better financial situation. he continues to work. they talked about what is happening in the economy of ukraine in the ninth

month of the war. and what does it look like today ? it's really hard, but the economy continues to work, the first shock that was there in march, april, it gradually subsided in the summer, business in general there began to become more active , now here is another shock in the form of this energy crisis, in principle, we have those sectors of the economy that , well, have some export-oriented the potential is mainly the agrarian raw material sector. it is very difficult, but still it can export products. in this regard, the istanbul destruction initiative, which was initiated by president zelenskyi, played a very important role in this regard, it allowed to open the movement of our goods through the odesa partner, ah , well, first of all, grain and in fact, this was

such a strategic victory for ukraine, first of all , ah, the metallurgical complex is in a very difficult condition , because ah, metallurgical products were not included in the list of goods that you can export through the ports of odesa, they have a very limited number of railways. well, you can export . domestic demand for metal has fallen because, well , construction has stopped. and it is not surprising that the service sector continues to pull us out of this crisis. er, it is also called the tertiary sector of the economy , the service sector, trade and the service sector, this is approximately 60% of the gdp of ukraine before the war, and now this share has probably even increased, because the only thing that saved us during the pandemic crisis is now this saves the topic of what we are talking about, micro-enterprises are an average business , services, trade, that is, some money in the economy between people, yes, i still somehow continue to saturate the budget with taxes, give jobs, eh,

helps pay wages, although really now there are 740%, these are people who have lost their jobs, how can russia, what does it want to achieve, completely black out economically, let us sink so that we sink and do not get out of this , i noticed that the economic country operates with the methods of the second world war, and probably you can also of the first world war wars and when the economies were closed, that is, what i said at the beginning of the program, that they have a projection of a-a internal expectations from these blows and they constantly compare us with themselves, not noticing that between us, well, huge, huge, such a- is the difference because the economy is closed, if you destroy its infrastructure, then it actually stops a-a well, this is what they did during the mass bombings

there, the second world war, the first world war, the second world war, when the infrastructure was destroyed, and the enterprise was destroyed, you could not produce it. -a-a-a weapons ammunition well, like for example fascist germany yes, there the allies destroyed its institutions, the organization was internal, but everything that went to the front , it was produced inside the country, then destroyed the factories, destroyed the infrastructure, in fact then, and the army i didn’t get fuel, i didn’t get shells, i didn’t get equipment there, etc. and now ukraine is an open economy, moreover, a significant part of our military potential and the critical potential that is needed there for waging war in order to support uh, let’s say so infrastructural systems come from the outside from our western partners, russia cannot destroy there in europe, ah, these logistics hubs, where are the ammunition for ukraine stored, where are various strategic materials transported, that is why these the strikes are completely pointless from the point of view of stopping uh our infrastructural and military

capabilities potential potential i.e. the military potential you won't stop with these strikes the second reason is that they will thus provoke resistance from the population i.e. people will start to go out on the streets to demand some uh we only of their negotiations is not the awareness of the russians. yes, i say that they absolutely do not understand ukrainians at all and did not understand ukrainians as people . they used to call us yes and you us even during these years that they lived in the same country there in the soviet union, they did not understand our essence, that's why they think that it is necessary to destroy the unity between society and the army between society and the leadership of the state. in this way, people will begin to protest and demand peace negotiations. but the opposite is happening in our country, that is, every blow causes more anger on the part of ukrainians and more desire for resistance, and the third point. they think

that in this way they will destroy the economy, but here if the government will not apply what we have said that we can not achieve certain successes, that is, we cannot inflict significant losses on our economy, and if the government will not apply such an amortization mechanism as we said, then they can achieve partial success in this regard achieve so that they don't do it, so that they don't have these successes, they have to do the things that we are talking about in this broadcast, that's the first reason that you mentioned , the importance of our military potential is great a metallurgical enterprise, for example, it is possible to destabilize their work in today's bodies, 90 % of the military e. they can't attack poland, if they could

, they would have done it a long time ago, that's why we really have a part of the weapons that we controlled, we can't produce now. they hit the military-industrial enterprise with missiles, we know where you can get these weapons, and they are no worse than the ones for which they were produced, and in some cases even better, that is, here is the paradox: did they destroy the military-industrial complex of ukraine, and instead, the ukrainian army received even more modernity samples of weapons if you compare the technological equipment of the ukrainian army now with what it was at the beginning of the war , our technical equipment has increased . business expects from the state not only frankly beautiful e-e speeches and e-e gas slogans like what will we do, we will take the necessary practical steps to get the state. i think it will be much more useful

not just to say what we will exhibit, but to say what we will exhibit because that point one point two point three what the state will do tomorrow we see that the business is difficult we see that it depends on it we see that this is the only place where now ukrainians can find a job and keep it themselves so keep one loan keep two keep three but how do you say that banks invest money not in the real sector of the economy with support, but in the national bank in the place where it is? well, i don’t know more protected money and that’s why you can earn 23% per annum on deposit certificates of the national bank, and that’s absolutely risk-free operation because the national bank will always return money, who will lend to the economy if you can get 23% from the national bank, this is actually printing money for commercial banks, more precisely, i would say printing profits for commercial banks on the part of the nbu, something here about the state city opposition no, not really lobbying

of the financial business, because in this scheme the financial lobby receives about 1.5-2 million dollars annually, but i'm sorry, how russia is destroying our economic front, our economic this potential about what is the income in which country, who can get a refund and what else do i need to talk about if you are already in the studio and came to us as a hostess, i am still interested if the situation is difficult in the energy sector, will it last, what products may be in short supply, why could it be the difficulty is precisely in the economic plan and in our everyday life, i think that we are again returning to the format of a market economy, and the format in the format of a market economy, no product can disappear as such, there is no bread because well, there are difficulties for 80 hryvnias, i bought the clips, yes , not for 80, but for that, 35. he seems yes, because

some viewers complain to us about what can happen in the morning economy, the morning economy may have a shortage of certain groups of goods for a certain time, that is, this shortage occurs, but the market economy you know how are these blood cells in human blood, which fight viruses, that is, when a problem arises, but their own corpuscles, in this case, they are subjects of entrepreneurship, they again here and there saturate this place and start bringing in these goods. guess the fuel shortage, we didn’t know how to solve this problem at all. well, all the oil depots have been destroyed. the oil refineries in kremenchuk have been destroyed. well, we came here. many people thought that this shortage would never be filled, but i just understood that it will be suppressed when man who has never dealt with fuel, she started asking me where she can buy a gasoline truck because we will have a 10% profitable season in- every

store has flashlights, gas cans, gas stoves , generators, at first there was a huge, huge deficit. i went there for a week , for two weeks, certain goods may disappear, but then the market economy will compensate, and these deficits are second. and we have very large reserves of food inside the country, including grain and oil and other types of goods, we don’t have foreign markets , freedom of speech, it won’t happen in ukraine for sure. well, maybe it’s bread, for example, there’s no electricity, they didn’t have time to prepare bread, but it’s 1-2 cases, there’s one here without bread, it’s very useful, yes, no yes, it's not so scary, you can dry crackers and it's very interesting. i think there was a broadcast and it's possible, well, we know that the country's leadership and the cabinet of ministers and the president's office are watching