the organization, the structuring of motivations, the name of it. this is when people have a certain motivation. this is how motivation is created. why should they support the russian world with money, influence, blackmail ? there is a critical mass of people who support the russian world that is disproportionate to the rest of the church. let's say that ukraine has won all cases both internally and externally, then the fact that the police come to the kyiv-pechersk lavra and show some documents that you should release

er . . how does it happen how does it have to happen that is, the very physical action itself, how do the police go there, or is it simple ? ukraine and we are not against you going there, how can it be, viktoro, please well, in fact, the question does not arise, you see, so far, the ukrainian state cannot implement the law that was adopted at the end of 2018, the law on renaming conditionally in other words, he cannot register the charter of the monastery on the territory of the

kyiv-pechersk lavra, the charter of the orthodox church of ukraine, because the head of the freedom of conscience service said that the orthodox church has no monks, and so on and so forth, that is, until now imagine that still in the ninth month of the 10th month of the war, the uoc of the moscow patriarchate is still in an arbitrary position . if we talk about how this situation might look, i think that it might look like thus, first of all, the ukrainian state must say that it does not tolerate the presence of structures of the moscow patriarchate on its

territory, this means that the structures that are currently in direct, indirect or hidden dependence on the moscow patriarchate should distance themselves from him, do this according to canon law, send peaceful so -called letters to the leaders of local churches that they are not under the authority of the moscow patriarchate, condemn the collaborators who went to moscow and participated in these so -called during the celebrations on the occasion of the annexation of the so -called e-e these annexed territories e-e 7-8 or 10 bishops e-e of this church were awarded, including personally by e-e putin, orders for e-e strengthening russian-ukrainian friendship which sounds

even beyond the boundaries of good and evil now, it is not there to wrap it up and send this cream to pots and so on, if the collaboration continues, then the procedure begins, and the entire ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate itself is not a legal entity, but its center is its pearl management individuals are and this further collaboration may lead to the initiation of the procedure of e-e suspension or e-e deregistration, annulment of their charters , of course, it is not about what should suffer are these vinnytsia parishes or in some other or zhytomyr or other regions there, the majority of the

faithful there, i agree with this kirill, they are really patriots and really, they are not involved in what the clergy of the uoc mp is doing, but if just come to the service for the liturgy in the average average church of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine, then we will hear things there that will be a certain surprise for a person who has lived for 10 months in war conditions, however, you don't have to go to the temples, just take it and read it the easter messages of the bishops of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, they uh, this is what is called beyond the measure, the things are weighed down , that is, there is a war going on, a terrible war is going

on. -e some of these appeals talk about some unknown forces and so on and so on and on and some of them are generally blasphemous, so of course of course it is necessary i completely agree with this cyril that it is necessary to differentiate the main mass of believers and this sacred in one way or another, it is tied to moscow, and i also wanted to ask you that today is the pope of rome, so if he became more openly pro-ukrainian, eh, but there is not enough time, so let's take a minute to reign. please . why is it that i am in rome now? i am here

with the pope . well then you are the first. situations, he often does not succeed. he admits his mistakes like the pope of rome and works on these mistakes, and we see work on seven mistakes and he is helped in all his work by many ukrainians, i can say who communicate with him, influence him, convince him and here we have a result it seems to me that this is a pretty good result. and now, mr. viktor illenskyi, please say a few words and we agree that the pope is evolving, his rhetoric is evolving, albeit extremely slowly, and i want to say that you understand we are waiting for the pope. we do not expect from him any political considerations or any advice

, and we do not even expect mediation from him in the settlement of this war. we expect from him the light of a religious leader that i should expect from a religious leader . because religion is about so-called final meanings, it's about good and evil, about the distinction between good and evil, and about who evil comes from, this is what ukrainians have been waiting for from the pope and i hope that we will wait, thank you very much kyrylo govorunov archimandrid doctor of philosophical sciences viktor and lena religious scholar with a doctorate also of philosophical sciences people's deputy of the 8th convocation thank you for finding time for us and i will go on to answer the questions that seem like i should have here, you see what ukraine is doing , everyone has some such enough about the ukrainian genesis

first this and the pope did not give weapons. and now this is the zeal of the ukrainian army of the ukrainian people and now they all. well, we didn’t know, we will now help more. well, it’s a strange story, a strange thing, but you see it, you know. during the war, irony can be inappropriate and simply hostile, and when we remember before the war, many politicians, political scientists , historians, and activists often said that ukraine has a great future . then we show really all the globes we are well done the price of this is very high human lives

questions what do you think blackout from disabled russia is this not the worst that can be expected from them should we fight with chemical weapons or dirty bombs what will be the consequences if the enemy uses chemical weapons, well, be a lot of people if the enemy uses them, i don't, i don't believe that they will stop it, i don't believe that anything can satisfy the russians, i suspect that they would easily drop chemical weapons, a dirty bomb, the problem of the russians is that it will not stop ukrainian troops will not stop the ukrainian people and this must be kept in mind because well, i will simply answer for a long time. to assume that everything is dirty, not dirty, why necessarily

dirty, maybe such and such a crystal clear bomb, and throw somewhere, too, me, no, no, i don't see any options so that they don't want it and don't do it , it's another matter. not everyone wants to have because you understand uh this. practically all scenarios of uh dirty bomb turn into tactical nuclear weapons and then we have a strategic huge number of scenarios that can be the development of events and almost all of these scenarios lead to a global catastrophe well that's why i i think that everything can wait. well, if they just run out of weapons there, i don’t know. these missiles. well, maybe they won’t create a blackout, but maybe somehow they will put pressure on iran, our western

allies there, and the ira will not supply weapons. a combination of uh, but you have to believe in the best, but understand that it can be worse, so how do you, the people of the kyiv authorities, regarding the blackout, is there a delay in the return of electricity to the homes of the people of kyiv with the aim of either the citizens of kyiv have left the city as much as possible, or is this a bright background for forming an impression on the world community on j7 well, i would say so, i can assume these two options that the government wants people to leave kyiv and can five percent, i.e. a total

of 10%, and the rest is just the way things are, you know. i always quote a phrase that seems to have belonged to sigmund freud before ivanovich, but i don't have it there, it's not a fact that he said it when he was driving, but sometimes it's a banana it's just a banana the war is just going on they shoot at critical infrastructure just like that ukrainian energy workers do absolute miracles and restore electricity supply they work day and night doing absolutely impossible things and i talk about it with specialists and they are surprised even though you know such a specialist, to put it mildly, that's why i see what you know i i would say so, maybe we should wean ourselves from this, this soviet system, because it also happens in europe, but very rarely, this desire of the authorities

to deceive always ends in europe, in america , in canada, and in japan, because people are very in a short period of time they will find out that they wanted to cheat them and people don't like it very much where i want them when they want to cheat them. today i read an interview with the first lady 's wife by the president of the bbc. he gave an interview to i liked it very much. a person, but certainly someone can find there insincerity, treachery, deception, and so on, but it seems to me that you know there are different approaches to society, well, once there, there was capitalism, and that, that, that, that, and that, and there are recent years, maybe decades. well, no, no, no more than 20-25 years societies of trust and society of distrust are

civilized societies are those that are considered to be civilized this society of trust a let's go now from point a this is the point and for us point b is a society of trust a point a is a society of distrust when you don't trust anyone you are afraid you will always be tricked and this is normal for russia today. look, from morning to night, we see lies in lies, lies, lying words, lying actions, lying thoughts. i know in the rye, now russia is all a lie, this is what the mothers of russians who sent their children to the front are suffering. nothing is happening, no one is writing

to them, they are somewhere. these children, these boys, they are somewhere or they would have died. they are looking for and demanding from putin, what is putin doing? he gathers his officials of the female gender and of the appropriate age, well, of such an age that this person can already have a 20-year-old child there, and he sits with them and stretches everyone knows that these are fake people, these are not the mothers of people who died or who are fighting in ukraine, lies are everywhere and definitely is mistrust and this comes from the word nurture, it is nurtured distrust in russian society. i hope that ukraine and the volunteer movement and military movements and our heroic soldiers are all built on trust. if i am a volunteer taking something to the

front, then i do not want to lead something that is not well with i don't have a fake one in my head, i'm bringing a fake one, and instead of it shooting or protecting, they don't shoot and protect ukrainian soldiers. i want to send something there that helps our common cause, and in russia we see it, someone someone is making these bulletproof vests out of paper and cardboard. someone sits in some factory and they do it like that. greetings, dear frau merkel, she slandered that in the summer of 21st she tried to change the minsk bricks agreement to a new track, but none of the heads of state are participants in the legal process and

then he did not become a servant and then he did not become a servant do you think there is truth in her words, i allow it, i assume it, i can imagine it, it is not something so exotic that it does not enter my head, we exaggerate the capabilities of the leaders of countries. if putin took it into his head that he will start a war with ukraine, no merkel, 10,000 merkels will come out, they will stand and talk let 's not fight, we will still fight, it's the same story when, well, it was in 14-15, although it was popular now in 22, it is not very popular. what if we had adopted not adopted the law about language so disunited russia would have attacked if there were 158 laws about language, we could say that it does not have ukrainian water at all, we have russian language that is being restored in full and russia attacked that's why all the talk is that oh, and they have a

bad effect on putin, it's nothing putin decided destroy ukraine and everything, putin has no questions and it can be biden, merkel, anyone , moreover, i think that if merkel did not succeed, then no one succeeded . more or less knows german angela merkel knew more or less russian because she studied in ukraine at the university of donetsk so, uh, they had the opportunity to come to an agreement without an interpreter, they had the opportunity, maybe not ideal, but they could somehow talk to each other, but neither of them knows russian johnson doesn't know russia, well, a lot, a lot, a lot of people, what kind of leaders don't know russian, it's just them. it's physiologically difficult. well, please understand what putin wants. the only person who could imagine what

putin wants. well, because they were born, they lead in german democratic east germany . about the soviet pro-russian and, accordingly, understood how the pro-russian chairman works about the soviet man knows the language of the rest of the people, there are no such people, no, no, no , the prime minister of the netherlands or the president of france , no, no, cannot understand russia, they cannot allow some of them turn that's why i believe when someone tells me what such and such a story is like, i believe that they restrained ukrainians as in the 14th year, i have evidence that they held the hands of many ukrainian politicians at the top they did not start actively acting in the places where they were located then, because europe said: just do n't do anything in crimea, just don't do anything in

donbas, we will try to come to an agreement and nothing came of it, we couldn't come to an agreement and again porushkin, please explain why ukrainians should forget of this poet, how can we convey this to the russians that it is our right to whom to erect a monument to whom to demolish, because a russian writer and to the library bykov gives such a one the other day raised a warrior in the swamps, they say that ukrainians do not know what they are doing why do russian writers, especially those who are not ethnic russians , stand against decolonization of ukraine because they are all imperialists. well, almost all of them are me. well, i am. among my acquaintances, there are very few people who can fight the word. there may be poet orlusha. there may be two or three people. journalist panishkin. these are people who want to understand.

this is a very simple litmus test, if the russian is possible, the authorities or a creative person does not claim but asks, you can look at it a little more carefully because it is genetic. they have to teach uzbeks, georgians, estonians, ukrainians , moldovans, they have them all and they do not tolerate it when moldovans say listen. maybe you will be like that do you say something to my older brother hello that's why and they would all talk about the great russian literature and we don't know what we are creating, but i always think and what do poor students in denmark, portugal, norway do in such an average

ah-ah european countries they do n't study their writers they are only english or french shakespeare and we are driving behind this moment that no our pushkin is better than your shevchenko well absurd but we have to pass this pushkin well i can imagine pushkin in odesa, he lived there . and what did pushkin do? they recently removed a monument to him in poltava, and he tells me that. well , i was there, he was in poltava, so now you don't re-educate them in short, and bull houses houses and of other people they will be a generation for which this generation will end, there will be a new generation, and then

somehow medicines can be applied to russians, they just don't understand, they are just for them it 's different, different, different. how is it? well, somewhere it's from outer space, like a ukrainian, a moldovan, a belarusian, an estonian can talk about his literature when i'm great russian literature, nothing not here, you can't do anything , gradually i stand more quietly, speak more quietly, more quietly, what does this mean that the program is coming to an end, and we will definitely see each other tomorrow, and next and on friday, i hope we will be together with vitaliy, whom i follow i'm already bored and now i'm finishing this program , we have 11 seconds left, maybe 8, how about you? thank you for your attention. everything is fine

in mariupol. 11-year-old hleb cherepanov is missing. the boy's mother is begging for help in finding her son and is not losing hope. woman now she is in occupied mariupol, so it was difficult for her to call us and she asked her friend who lives in the territory controlled by ukraine to process, she actually told us all the details of this story , in fact, it is a very difficult story, so hleb in in march, he found himself in the absolute hell of the war. he lived with his mother and grandmother in mariupol and stayed in the city when there was very heavy fighting there. the family

hid from shelling . and she says we began to climb out of the window at night, gleb got out, his mother and grandmother got out of the destroyed apartment and ran to hide with their relative who lived in the house at frunze 71 . home. and when she returned, she saw that a shell had also hit there, and a shell hit it, too , and it also collapsed. it was not possible to find the boy that march, she

went to your apartment and waited for them to return, as it were , to the apartment, and here she was on april 14 , the active phase of hostilities ended, she says that they did not return, and she does not know where to look for them, where the child became his mother, she has no idea, the mother either does everything possible to find her son, the woman does not lose hope and misses the fact that the boy could have been injured . contoured something else, so he can’t come back, and here he is sitting in mariupol and waiting for re to come back, his mother will remember something, deep down through her friend, they asked us and you to help her find her son, so please look at the photo of the boy carefully, especially this is what i am asking the residents of occupied mariupol who may have seen this program on the internet. glyb is thin and has a height of about 150 cm. he has

blond hair and brown eyes on his face near his mouth. boy, if you know anything about cherepanov’s land or where he might be, please call the hotline of the child tracing service at the short number 116 000 from ukrainian mobile operators, calls are free, you too you can write to the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram. if you have any information about the boy , do not delay and immediately inform us. i will tell you only one story of a missing child in general since the beginning of the war. we have received more than a thousand requests for help in the search, fortunately,

most of the children have already been found, but the fate of many remains unknown, especially this refers to temporarily occupied territories where the work of the police is virtually paralyzed and from where it is impossible to leave but there are problems with the communication of the help desk where people who cannot find their own children do not even know what to do and where to turn if suddenly you find yourself in a similar situation and have no idea how to act call the short number 116,000, they will give you detailed advice and advice . what to do, besides, everyone who sees me now can already help in the search for missing children, show this just a minute of your time, come in to the website of the children's search service and look at the photos of the missing boys and girls, maybe you will recognize someone and eventually help to find them

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