in belarus, make a koontz with a camera, just put it there and you will be able to make money instead of reselling russian oil, showing tourists that for 30 years we had such a stuffed president, if only someone had done it sooner, but really, really, he is he says a fairly simple thing, he is not stupid. he says that before the beginning, what did he want to say before the start of special operations? russia or russia is bad, the liquid is good, but now when he sees that you are so ungrateful, he came to release you with the best army in the world, but they haven't had time to remove all the refrigerators and toilets from you yet, and you are not satisfied. well, then he decides that he will take all of you will destroy or you will agree that you will live under him and do what

he says and then he will drive you all out and make you cold and hungry well, everything else is what lukashenko said - it's basically a normal analysis, it 's not even a warning, by the way, remember do you know when to putin. i think it was in march or may, i have to look. i did come again, the federal chancellor of austria, karl, not hamlet. do you remember he was the only one with the european leader who then visited moscow trying to play some kind of mediation mission? and what did our grandfather volodymyr dandelion say to him volodymyrovych tell them that i will destroy them all, what does it mean in putin's language, this is what he is doing now or when he said oh, we haven't started anything yet, what was meant, they said, oh, he's just a role he just doesn't do anything. he meant it, we were going to destroy the state, that is, the institutions of the state wanted to be destroyed, and if you don't agree, and

by destroying the institutions, we will destroy the infrastructure . that if you take some hostages, they tell you that we will not talk to you 10 well, then we will kill them invisibly to you , we will take another 50, you will say give us money and a plane well, we are in trouble because of this series what is the name of the paper house? well, this is the psychology of terrorists. now let's start with your son's finger. why don't you give money? you think we are terrible, cruel, and this is russian logic. the west must understand that he is not sorry. the west must understand what if he continues to supply it . weapons, we

will destroy them all. well, stop it, but putin has no allies in this action except belarus and lukashenko directly . he expressed some opposition when russia did not provide assistance as an allied state in order to resolve the conflict with azerbaijan, but now he did not even sign this resolution as a result of this as a result of this summit. do you still think that there is some role for putin is he playing or does he absolutely do not care what is happening inside the otkp? of course it pisses him off, but think about why nikola pashilyan will help himself to not sign the declaration of the udkb really. look at all these people, nobody ever elected putin

the president is real. this is just a pseudo-choice, and now he won the election, where he received 73% of the votes in the diamond. true, as many as 24% of the population voted, but this is also the case. rahman has ruled tajikistan for 30 years. the only person elected there is the president of kyrgyzstan. who is also, as you remember? you know, he refused to conduct military exercises of the odkb on his territory and the prime minister with the light of problems, but they went to elect, you see on these democratic words , they elect pashinyan to the leadership of the state, that is, after all still draws attention to the armenian voters, to the armenian people, and that is why he may not allow to sign the documents, appeal to his people, you

know, they do not support us and we will not sign this or they do not support us and we can leave from there. this is very interesting and very important a moment that needs to be said when you and i are discussing this whole situation, and it is absolutely obvious that in the situations that have developed in the relations between russia and the countries of the post-soviet space, there were all these countries that are gradually approaching some kind of dialogue society they are starting to behave completely differently, here is the new president of kazakhstan began to try to talk to society and immediately distance himself from the russian federation logically logically we will talk more about kazakhstan p i welcome me here also regarding dkp i have a question about kyrgyzstan and tajikistan they have border wars between themselves but at the same time, both of them are members of the csto. and why

don't they speak out then, and with some er, such um, let's say statements like, er, never cats , why don't they help russia as an allied state and other countries to solve this conflict for them. why do n't they oppose it? i think that it is precisely for these reasons that we are talking about, how much can they, in principle, pay attention to their own citizens, how much can they not, compared to armenia, they are absolutely not in dialogue of course, they have dialogues with putin and they may believe that, after all, without the understanding of putin, they cannot really hold on to power, and by the way, what he threatened lukashenko with. imagine that russia will lose the war where will you all be it

a good question, where will lukashenko be, that's a good question , where will the president of tajikistan be, let's say, the bill, that's a good question, and it may turn out that he has other allies, that's the question, and the president of kyrgyzstan , well, where will he be, where is he, and will the people elect him as president? next time, they can don't elect him, but they can elect him for a second term, putin didn't appoint the president, he was in prison when there was another revolution, he got out of prison, he turned out to be a clever politician, he was elected president, what a president of kyrgyzstan because the first one was a ten-year high. well, i think that he can also think that he can stay without putin. he has this ringing streak. it seems that they took a couple. i can

say that the president has no final results, but he won more than 80 percent of the votes. well, this is not a competitive election . in any case, but one way or another, he is trying to look like a politician who thinks about the national interests of kazakhstan. he is proposing reforms. well, it is difficult to say how it will all look one way or another. i believe that the situation is connected with the post-soviet space, it will change rapidly, you see from the president of azerbaijan aliyev he said that he does not want negotiations with armenia now , because he does not like what the french president is dragging into the negotiations with armenia, but this is a completely new format, they are arguing about it there where is france, the european union, azerbaijan and armenia. by the way, the president of azerbaijan is not against the

participation of the head of the european council. it immediately became clear that they could agree on something, some progress began in the conflict that has been going on for 30 years. in fact, the main thing is always said that everyone says that the main reason for this conflict is the mutual hatred of the azerbaijani armenian people. okay, how did this hatred arise, it is not russia over there. yes, these borders about the pitchfork so that you know this hatred at any moment if you make some construction and know for sure that if you click here it will fall here of course you can use any such construction for so that they are simply fed up by one people and they may even not even remember the first reason , they have simply already gone through a catastrophe in a

step by the way, by the way, he is leading a controversial attack policy, but in relation to russia's war against ukraine, i can even say more in support of ukraine because he speaks for the territorial integrity of all states, he said publicly at the time of the coup that he would not recognize the lpr, the dpr, which all other entities, because he is not considered correct, then there will be chaos in the world. recognized the new regions that were annexed by a pseudo-referendum to the four ukrainian regions, you know, when kazakhstan was declared an independent state, kazakhs did not make up the majority of the population in this independent state, now the situation has changed for the better, but at the time of the declaration of statehood, kazakhs were half of the population but i am not sure that it was 51% . president nazarbayev at that moment was

afraid to even declare independence because he believed that this independence could lead to disintegration of kazakhstan, from the first day after the declaration of independence, he began to say that the union of the northern states should be done. i remember that he gathered journalists at the embassy of kazakhstan in russia at a press conference and said that i proposed to create a union of independent states, and now i will read to you how my colleagues, and it turned out that matvyi and his colleagues were all against it. well, it’s clear. and i tell him, after that, let’s set a side anniversary, you do it, you want to build kazakhstan on your pork of the states. as far as i understand, he told me says, how can i calm down the russian population itself, how can i use it to explain that, in principle, we are not

against them, we explain to them that we ourselves want a new union, which you and russia do not want, your president offers the president of the union, and your russian president is such a russian, as you do not want with you, being in the union with you with the russians means you have no alternative but to live in kazakhstan or go to russia. if you don't want to and this policy, it won in principle because it was such a policy. i would say that the union is useless to anyone not it was necessary, but the fear of this collapse remained with all the people who went into politics together with nosultan kazim, marta kaif is exactly the same person, and he can believe that sooner or later the russians will use this goat against him because he can recognize the dpr of the lpr recognized the dnr dnr this is a direct road highway to the ural people's

republic, by the way, i was already considered a protégé of non-zrybaeva, but since when in january it seems last year there were protests, the kai even expelled non-zrybaeva from the territory you put kazakhstan. they then think that they have their own interests, they don't pay attention to you anymore, this is a serious lesson for any dictator, but it is obvious that in this situation it creates more fear of russia, all its troops have come, people have left, the new president seems to oblige tied to russia by its power, how will he act, that's why he needs to distance himself. you understand that the attitude towards war in kazakh society is contradictory. there are people who are resolutely against the war and people who essentially support what what russia is doing is primarily the viewers of russian

tv channels, primarily the russian population if it supports this war, the logic of this war is that where russian people live, russia should be there, then it is these people who are against the war that begins to be projected onto the republic of kazakhstan itself, and it perfectly understands that it met with the most crisis situation in all the years of the existence of the zastan state, so i don't know what will come out of it. by the way, i will tell you something, he can come out of it normally if ukraine wins in russia is a reality, mr. vitaly. let's talk about the fact that germany is initiating a meeting of the head of foreign affairs of the group of seven in order to solve the issue with the energy system of ukraine. we just had a power outage here. and it's good that we have a generator and we we can continue broadcasting, but not everyone has such an opportunity. of course, this is a huge disaster for all ukrainians, but

i am wondering to mr. vitaly, why does he need these meetings in order to solve some problems? they clearly know what we need in order to by military means, how to stop the attacks of russian anti-e missile and anti-air means, please give us and we will decide for ourselves well, it is not so easy, as long as it is given about anti-e missile and air means, we can destroy it already by 50%. and in principle, i believe that such meetings are necessary, when this meeting is a meeting of the minister of foreign affairs, a meeting of energy ministers, they can imagine a whole set of measures that, in principle, make all this destruction not without meaning, here are some generators, some uh, mobile stations, some money for repairs reconstruction of the infrastructure, some supply of electricity, i am not a specialist, the question is because there is a specialist, but the main thing is to demonstrate to putin that his attempts to turn ukraine into a

cold desert do not end with anything, this is the same idea. he wants the population to suffer because in his head what if the population suffers it will destroy zelensky and i will immediately say the new government, let's surrender to russia, where can we get this power and it can only be brought from moscow, as you know, it is not clear, but there is such an idea and it must be developed. i believe that we should win on two fronts, militarily and not energy-wise, that we should not allow a situation where, with the help of our allies, when ukraine is not ukrainians, ukrainians will die and suffer in connection with any kind of infrastructure. we need operational measures that can understand how much population is needed we need to resettle from some areas where it is impossible to provide heat, water and gas internal resettlement for this, too, we may need help money, we need an understanding of whether there is a sense in the new departure of people abroad and how they will be to be accepted there and what will these conditions be temporary.

perhaps for the winter months, if people live peacefully in their cities, they can return there in march-april, so that we are talking about such a short-term early departure, and this can also be a procedure. that is, a whole complex can be adopted measures that will nullify all russia's actions in this regard. it seems to me that it should be enough. it is important that the issue of preserving the power system will not be resolved by military means, but purely by discussing equipment, financial assistance, which we it is really very funny, it can go on for a long time and during this time the population living in this state of war must survive so that it does not turn out that we in russia won and there is no one left here, you know, there was such a popular polish film about a well-known polish spy in the 39th year who beat just perfect and the last frame of this film that he completely won and stands and watches as german

tanks enter warsaw what is the meaning of such a victory, the victory must be complete that is, you win at the front and you know that you have a population in the rear which survived and if you won and the desert is behind you so what are you going to do with this desert so it should be a double set of measures to ensure the life of the civilian national if the state that is fighting against us angelique is doing everything possible to destroy the civilian population, in fact it is at war with women and children this is the reality, as a terrorist organization, it is necessary to create a set of measures worthy of these terrorist organizations . it seems to me that it is demonstrated in one meme and where it is written that we can see even in the dark what russians well, and then there is a bad word that cannot be said on the air, but i think everyone understood what we are talking about if the

ukrainians are unbreakable, we hold on vitaliy, thank you for the broadcast vitaliy portnikov were in the morning, in the evening, we will meet soon. in a few moments, iryna koval will tell you the news. she raised her head again in europe, reminding us of the darkest hour in our history. franz 24 constantly covers events in ukraine, our team on the ground and in the studio will inform you about the dynamics of events. watch the latest news from franz 24 in ukrainian on espresso. russian peace has invaded

ukraine and is destroying ukrainians. to survive, we must defeat the inhumans all over the country. purchase of 200 silencers for weapons for ukrainian fighters, in turn, our polish friends from the vonstropol enterprise volunteered to invest 50% of this project for every hryvnia you send, they will give their silencers and flamethrowers will be transferred to the front line of the military that defends ukraine on the first line of fire, let's bring victory together glory to ukraine well, listen, the defender of ukraine sees in the dark as if during the

day he hears his brothers for kilometers around me , moving around in any terrain, his body is reliably protected, which makes him less sensitive and i was more confident about cockroaches from a bird's eye view. for 8 years in a row, you and i have been providing our defenders with what keeps their lives on the front line. our priorities are day, night and thermal imaging optics communications off-road vehicles personal protection and technical intelligence tools join the fundraiser and let the next night be peaceful for everyone except the occupiers odritan digital technology minister of taiwan software developer is included in the top ten most successful computer scientists in the country became the first

transgender minister in taiwan as a child audrey was a child prodigy at the age of five, read classic literature at six, studied mathematics in depth, and at eight started programming at 14 years old left school and began to study independently in two years founded her own it-business worked in silicon valley in california, usa was a consultant for apple began her political activities in 2014 in the midst of student protests, however, the rapprochement of taiwan with china later became a developer of media literacy training programs for of schools and ivaniv in 2016 becomes taiwan's youngest minister as minister audrey tang daily fights cyber attacks and disinformation as part of china's hybrid war against the autonomy and democracy of taiwan. thank you for the opportunity to communicate with you and thank you for supporting ukraine. this is very valuable for us. tell us

about the experience of taiwan in the distribution of services for citizens using digital technologies. which other countries are leaders in this direction? all over the world, because in addition to providing services through a mobile phone , all citizens and residents of the country in taiwan can participate in the process. in taiwan, we have a similar system. the hels express application, which counts more than 10 million people who do various medical procedures, including vaccinations, using the application, thanks to which we manage to resist the pandemic during the last three years, without any lockdown, you can even pay taxes through the application with the help of public technologies in order to jointly create better services every year

, we hold the presidential hackathon, in which more than 200 teams from taiwan and abroad participate, who jointly create better services and five winners each year receive a presidential commitment that their small experiment small applications like telemedicine etc. will be rolled out nationally during the next fiscal year with the involvement of budget staff and regulatory support you mentioned our app action how can you rate it have you seen this app tell us about our first impression we paid very close attention not only to the action, but also, in particular, to the prozoro system, an open procurement platform to fight corruption, competitive participation and the involvement of the international community because since about 2014 we have been promoting it.

procurement and contracting are on the agenda in taiwan, and so on. we joined forces within the framework of the open government partnership and shared tools, including a hackathon not our presidential hackathon in paris in the office of the president, that is, it is important that people-to-people connections and technological connections between communities were interconnected so when action offered a simpler form of providing such services we were very happy thank you what lessons taiwan can draw from ukraine's experience in the fight against cyberattacks and disinformation, i remember when the full-scale invasion began, all this brutal war on the part of russia, i stayed up all night checking not only twitter, but also the kyiv independent, where many journalists reported from the scene of the events. imagine if in that when there was no

internet in kyiv, people would still have real information, but everything they would see would probably be fake russian propaganda and the like, so the number one lesson we learned is because we must at any cost provide high-quality communication, which is vital for the work of journalists, including civilians, that is why we have invested more than 15 million euros in stationary orbital satellite receivers, we will build more than 700 such receivers, both stationary and mobile, such as we saw in ukraine. in order for them to be powered by solar panels, they received satellite internet and then relayed it through 5g towers to neighboring cities and journalists, like how it is now happening in ukraine, what are the key factors that determine the development of information and digital technologies in taiwan, two main points, the first

is high-quality, accessible internet as a human right, regardless of how remote you are, you are in the hinterland, even on a remote island, or even on the top of a jade mountain with a height of almost 4000 meters. you can still carry a live broadcast using high-precision internet for 15 euros per month, i am not talking about limitless people, so this is a human right, another point is digital competence our students in particular high school all learn not only media literacy ie when you read and consume but also competence when you write and create in this way they participate in measuring air quality to debunk rumors about air pollution instead find real pollutants they could also fact check about the presidential candidates during the debates on the eve of the 2020 presidential elections, if

students find any fakes or anything else that is not true, their name can to appear on the air collaborative fact-checking is an important civil society practice that many other jurisdictions are already adopting in taiwan since our code is open source and i would like to ask you about your experiences and also vanya in the field of personal data protection and digital services no one is a detached island, especially taiwan, so in order to protect against cyber. this is how we cooperate with the international community. anyone in ukraine or elsewhere in the world can donate part of their hard drive to be placed on on our site to protect against denial of service attacks in service at the beginning of august there were 23 times more a yes than during the previous peak which is unheard of and also we produce through the company tsmc

and the supply chain chips for advanced encryption so that people view private data can calculate train artificial intelligence and so on for the public good it requires advanced chip manufacturing capabilities that we are happy to share with our democratic allies russia's brutal war of aggression against ukraine appeared on the front pages of the world media. how would you characterize the coverage of events by the local media in taiwan? i think that all local changes, depending on party affiliation, consider ukraine and taiwan to be very closely related . joined the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine in order to protect ukraine - this was widely covered in taiwan and everyone felt the need to pay

more attention to what is actually happening in for ukraine, as i already mentioned, we have a very similar situation since the beginning of the introduction of major sanctions against russia, in particular on ts mc chips, which i think everyone in taiwan understood that it is not about market access, it is not about increasing gdp or something similar , it is about what is advanced microchips can be used not only because they are smaller and not entirely for the public good, but for cryptanalysis and attacks on the cyber front, banning access to the most advanced chips is of great importance for the protection of democracy, so i believe that under this is the angle most taiwanese media view this one