well, i will tell you that eventually the percentage of sovkolosty in belarus will no longer be able not to be dry for years, eh, it means only propaganda, eh, again, this imposition of eh russian stamps, and they were it , and after the 20th year, so many catastrophes are necessary to say that eh, the 20th hour, this is the riots of belarus, the final tourist, eh, serious, serious defeats, one of the positions, as if lukashenko, these are information codes, a specialist russian grushniks came here, what are the next, eh, once again, channels, eh, how to operate the footage well add a civilian persona such as a state zaryonka er i became a yoz in my opinion on the scale and of course i am not

followed how do you know, er, a dwarf, this is such an evil, evil person, they lead a miracle, and such an attitude among the people, well, where am i to you? sotok, which personally resisted the war, also did not have sotka 30, okay in today's cases of ukraine, poland does not want to do this war and repression. well, make it in belarusian, and sometimes the mood of the people from the period of the first period

was boiling, that's it. belarus 45° was another good speech of the leader, and i, uh, people, uh, and the measure of the boiling of people , that's what it was easier than the 20th year, guys are worthy there, the main guys are good at itishniks there, and here the men have already become such people that he even promised us this, we still have this in this, he says такие что i'm lukashenko for anyone eh the ruler is here, eh , what kind of people would you like us to go to belarus, resurrection of ukraine, the end of the catastrophe, understood . thank you very much, sergey, for being

on the program today, for answering my questions. thank you very much and victory to all of us in our war to the belarusians in their struggle with lukashenko well, i already have one, i was told by the second guest, this is ivan preobrazhenskyi, a russian political scientist, i will tell you preobrazhenskyi hello , good day at the same time, my first question would be: is putin preparing the russians for the big one? maybe even the second patriotic war with full mobilization. why are they asking for these constant shelling at the border territories of the belgorod region? well, shchebekino was even partially left without light yesterday. well, what is he doing now? well, i think that they are not preparing the russians for the big war in such a way that it was all about the mobilization of the reasons there, in some cases the

most simple, and the russian industry and the russian military defense are not in a position to mobilize more than they mobilized. they are not able to mobilize these people. armed children are trained and fed accordingly. any larger number will face even greater problems. the system still works as in the late soviet union. - the population is not ready for psychological universal mobilization, everyone has seen it is clear that sociological questions in russia can only be oriented conditionally and cannot be taken they are completely oriented towards faith, however, it is possible to use the word mobilization, but the horror of the majority is caused, and even more so, how the so-called partial mobilization took place for this,

yes, plus general mobilizations, real general mobilizations, covert mobilization according to the capabilities of the russian army of industry, and so it goes mobilization continues, it has not gone anywhere, the regions that began to form the so-called volunteer battalions are fobbing off their private military companies, the so-called, again, they continue to be created, that is, the process is continues to go accordingly. i think that in this case putin has another problem. now putin has a problem. the problem is that after the liberation of kherson, after russia lost it , the occupation army retreated to the dnieper, and those who supported putin at the beginning of the war, but also the more aggressive part of the russian i support society in general, just the real goals of this military aggression

, that is, in essence, the dismantling of the ukrainian state, and these people have stopped supporting it, now he urgently needs a new base of traditional support base of electoral support, i mean this woman from 35 conditionally to sixty, he began to lose her even before the full-scale aggression in ukraine, and now he just has stitches and those who have already died in the course of the russian military aggression from the russian country, respectively, begin to lose the support of both their basic dictatorship and the elector who used us for this military aggression i need someone else, i'm sorry, i'll kill you. can kherson be a point of no return for putin? he is a point of no return. he

is of the opinion that those who believed that victory was possible stopped thinking so, and this is exactly what those who understood why he is waging this war in the majority of the population conditionally primorsky krae , as it shows. no, the more or less reliable sociology conducted there by colleagues says that there, 70 percent of us still believe that everything is going well . they watch official television, as they first told us about the war. we will only watch news, so they continue to conduct themselves here, the change is minimal. and here is the 15%, maximum 20, who actively supported the war from the very beginning and the russian aggression. with pens, it does not want to participate in this war, by and large it is passive, it is amorphous, well, what is the driving force of

its internal ego, it is necessary with administrative pens and decrees alone, it is impossible to win the war, it succeeds is it difficult for putin to ask a question in russian, ukrainian, not ukrainian, i understand, i can’t speak, it will be a monster for putin to convince the russians, that we still need to actively support what he is doing in ukraine now it is impossible to convince them completely of this, it is impossible, they do not agree in principle, that is, the position of the russians is very old. even before that, he was the one who brought it up. we don’t touch you. and you don’t touch us. -then social handouts and they don't touch us, every request

they touch causes, well, if not a protest, then at least society begins to seethe and wake up really seriously, this society is only possible in one way, it will begin to resist, and it is impossible to put yourself at the service, as in the famous schwartz obestest, it is impossible it is possible to create a faithful soul, deaf without arms and legs, well, there are very few completely faithful and unfaithful souls, and accordingly, let’s put it this way, the format of intra-voice kremlin propaganda consists in constantly creating for the majority society, there are some new challenges in these groups, and don't let him come to his senses and think about what's going on, that is, putin won't allow them to resist, he won't allow them to resist the russian people. that

will not allow the russian people to stand up. the russian people are not ready to protest. let's say it honestly . a real protest will be supported. that's why we still need an organization, we need some kind of infrastructure, accordingly. now it is slowly starting to be created. it can take several years and putin can stop it perfectly. the only thing that he is losing adequacy is that we can clearly see it. it will start the moment when the protest can be stopped . well, there is no such type at all . as a result of the protest, the internal ones are practically not affected, only the external force, and then it is possible

that the answer is an internal protest ivan what is putin afraid of today? he already feels that martial law is going on, he is starting to look for some detours, here are the talks, the decommissioning of the zaporizhia npp is already 30 months away. negotiations without initial conditions, he is trying to find a way and the war will continue. while he still has some hope of keeping what he has already occupied, and at the same time, he will suspend active military operations if he realizes that this plan does not work, he will look for some other workarounds it is possible to leave the territory completely occupied because, after all, the main thing for the non- maintenance of power on the territory of russia is that he

will easily switch to preserving himself. well, the second fear is certainly the possibility of the palace gate, that is why he is bringing to him already outspoken bandits like kadyrov prigozhin and so on, with whom he is trying to guarantee himself that his old entourage will be upset. ivan, when you said that putin can leave the occupied temporarily occupied territories ? kherson region is partially in the zaporozhye region, or you are also? well, luhansk and donetsk region, or you also have krym. putin, of all things, has patriotic considerations, if he decides to leave crimea completely empty, much of course depends on how the armed forces of ukraine and the authorities of ukraine will act in this situation , entering the peninsula, and whether the kremlin will have the

opportunity to raise, as it were, outrage in russian society that from there they are starting to evict those who, for example, entered there during the russian occupation and so on, but in general, i think that russians do not care about crimea anymore , putin has largely devalued this point, which sat for a long time the approximate 90 of the second year is at least and it can be earlier not because krym is russia and uh, this is the war. in fact, it destroyed any barriers that could hold back russians and that could lead to a conversation in russian society such as in in his time, for example, alexey navalny said that crimea is not a sandwich at the moment. let's say that he became a sandwich. who

will eat it? who won? against putin and note, well, roughly the same way. let's say that the french society at its time accepted the attitude of algeria. there is no withdrawal of french troops and the cessation of colonial wars. the second thing is that you were able to carry out a democratic transformation afterwards, and vladimir putin is only able to strengthen it. the pistol regime, my last question to you, that is, the victory of the ukrainian army in crimea will mean the end of putin, or it will not mean the end of putin, it will not, i think that putin will enough opportunity to retain power within russia even if a victory in crimea takes place, the only opportunity in the sense of military victories, this is definitely a victory on the territory of russia itself, but it is obvious that now neither the ukrainian society nor

the ukrainian government talk about it in principle, so this is an opportunity see thank you ivan er for participating in my program, i will remind our viewers that it was ivan preobrazhenskyi and a russian political scientist who talked about russia and what is happening there to seethe inside of this country well, they tell me that my third guest is ihor kharchenko, a diplomat extraordinary and plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine, mr. ihor. i congratulate you . good health. congratulations and glory to ukraine. today, you are the first to whom i can say this, because the first two were interlocutors not from ukraine, of course, you could say glory to ukraine, but mr. igor, please tell me, the west and even the vatican have recently been quite active, well, quite actively, uh, talking about the fact that if this was the case, the war should have ended like any other war in history humanity at the negotiating table. pope francis even

wrote a letter last week in which he radically changed his rhetoric regarding ukraine, now he wants to become, like the vatican, a mediator in these negotiations in nato, for example jenstonberg, the secretary general of this military-political bloc, said that our the primary task is to give ukraine enough weapons and help it defeat russia on the battlefield, and then again so that it sits down at the negotiating table with russia, but ihor, the question for you is how to a professional diplomat who has repeatedly sat down at negotiating tables well, he knows what a negotiating table is and what it is for in general all this is not what we need negotiations after our victory in this case thank you mr. yuri for the question, there is logic in this question because i really spent

no a dozen and very important negotiations during these years of work in the diplomatic service, including with the russians since 1992, by the way, i was in the negotiating team and even in massandra when the black sea fund was divided. so i don't know which one the client says that they are being called to sit down for negotiations, er, diplomatically, i will say that there is no sense in any negotiations with the current russian federation, there are many reasons to add more details, i think there is no point now, since the position of ukraine is already quite clearly outlined with this russia, there are no there will be no negotiations. and this is an absolutely valid and correct position. why do we need negotiations after the victory, there is also logic, we ask this

because after the victory it is no longer negotiations, it is actually negotiations, it is negotiations about what will happen in the place of russia, that's how i formulated it, but with the current regime, there is of course no point in conducting these negotiations, because this regime is what it is today, and that's why more and more western political figures of the first echelon make relevant statements, it behaves like i don't know, he grabbed hold of this power so as not to let it go, but he understands that this result is coming to an end, and that is why ukraine must prepare to imagine what it will be called , that's another matter, there are many questions with which

the territory of the successor of the current russian regime, ukraine will be able to enter into negotiations in this way. this is how i would formulate it, because today we have uh. well, it's not that there are no diplomatic relations and all relations are broken, we have a war, an aggressive war has been unleashed, a neighbor. when this war will end with our victory, then the question will arise, but not during the negotiations, i would not even formally have such questions, and from time to time i call on our western partners to forget this word negotiations, now there will be negotiations now it is about helping ukraine to defeat the toys faster, and then the issue will begin. i would call it the peaceful settlement of the post-war period, and the peaceful settlement of the post-war period will no longer concern ukraine, it will concern the current people.

that is, that is exactly and there will be those negotiations with that territory. what did you call it? whoa, maybe someone wants to call it a negotiation, well, let it be called a negotiation, but substantively it will not be a negotiation, i understand, they provide for two or three if it is a lot of pages or more but they foresee partners at the table, we do n’t have a partner we have an enemy that needs to be destroyed with the enemy, negotiations are conducted, as the philosophers of previous days wrote, with the help of different types of weapons and the noisier weapons, it is better to negotiate with such an enemy, and then when the enemy understands that he is resisting he won't be able to, but then the post-conflict settlement is already coming. let's put it this way, the understanding of what will happen next, if someone wants to call it negotiations, god helps, but i, as a diplomat

, would not need negotiations, mr. yura, tell me then please, but here we are. i already said that when i started asking this question, that from the west these calls are being heard more and more often, and the president of france, manuel macron, and the chancellor of germany, olaf scholz, even said last week that they are continuing their it seems unnecessary conversations with putin and at the same time they say again that they will support us uh. but again, those negotiations that we have already negotiated are not touched anymore, why macron and scholz continue to understand all the futility of these conversations with putin they continue to talk to him. it seems to me that there are two reasons, the first is traditional in the era of any major conflicts. and now in europe, on the territory of ukraine, thanks to russian aggression, there are major conflicts with uh, very serious consequences in the

future, there has never been a lack of those politicians uh, or let's just say of people of specific views who would try to end the war by means of some houses take any war in the past, including the great wars, the second world war is the closest in scale to ours today and there it was enough to try to find some opportunities to reach someone there in hitler's entourage in order to try some philosophy of ending hostilities and working out peace

, nothing came out of it, that's why, that's that, that's historical inertia, i think it works today, besides that one should not forget that there is still inertia of thinking. let's say the peaceful europe of the last 80 years. europe is peaceful after experiencing two world wars for 30 years and then 80 years . there were these regional conflicts caused by the collapse of the soviet union and the warsaw bloc , yugoslavia, the caucasus, they are compared to what is happening now in ukraine, they are, well, let's say yes, no, not so powerful according to our historical ones, and therefore europe has already entered such a here's

the algorithm, you know what? yes, it's already close. but maybe it's still possible to somehow agree a little. europe is starting to understand that it's no longer possible to agree, and we hear it, we understand it, people with specifics said. i liked it very much. this is your diplomatic wording, people with specific views like that and still want to agree. well, the actual shit , i would say yes, let them try any any uh-uh any um-uh uh-uh move in the direction of conveying uh- are there any words of normality to the current moscow regime? in principle , the question should be raised. only in the fact that we ukrainians know russians much better than the germans, than the

french, than the english, than anyone else. i think that the best experts in the world from russia live right here in ukraine and that is why we are with them now let's figure it out, they talked with their western partner 20 years ago, i am a ukrainian, including that there is no point in talking when when they don't understand you there because what is done there does not fit into the algorithm of normal european life, of course mr. igor i am you we have very little time but i want to ask you one more question because, well, you will answer it. look , the ukrainian delegation boycotted the osce general assembly in warsaw, the capital of poland , along with two other baltic delegations. and did not participate in this general assembly . please tell me as a diplomat whether ukraine did the right thing by not participating in this session. was it still necessary to be there and speak? there are different points of view on this topic, i adhere to this point of view

that today where there is russia in international organizations, especially regional ones such as ukraine, there is no need to participate for one simple reason: the devaluation of the meaning of international organizations, where russia exists today, it is so big that with the participation of ukraine itself, there we support the appearance that everything is normal there. it is abnormal. the presence of russia in international organizations, including the un, and above all, it was and is an abnormal issue today. this is exactly what we need to focus on today. russia should be expelled from any organization that considers itself a decent, normal international organization. it is clear, mr. igor. thank you. because i am personally for myself. well, on the one hand, i seem to understand, on the other hand, i do not understand the presence of ukraine, but you explained. i

thank you very much and it is correct. thank you, igor kharchenko to the extraordinary diplomat and plenipotentiary of ukraine, as usual, for the professional answers to my questions. well , due to lack of time, i need to finish today's program, and again, as usual , the program was on the one hand, on the other hand, well, it is unusual to finish not as usual, i do not sum up the results the question he asked on youtube, well, he didn't do much, and all because youtube, as i said at the beginning of the program, banned us because he doesn't like it when we tell the truth about the war, the russian war in ukraine but nevertheless, there were guests. i asked them the questions i wanted to ask and received professional answers. for that, i thank all of them, and thank you for watching. i will meet with you. next week, obviously, there will be new topics, but it will be just as interesting because with professional guests are always interesting, so before we meet, we are looking for six-year-old danylo letynets

and eight-year-old georgy kovalev. the boys lived in the ingulets district of the city of kryvyi rih on the neighboring streets and had been friends for a long time. on november 18, they always met around 12 o'clock in the afternoon. they went for a walk, but she never returned home. they were walking and people saw them. they were walking near nova poshta supermarkets where there are military personnel. they approached military decorations. they didn’t ask for sweets or money. danyla and georgiy were clearly remembered by passers-by because the boys organized it. such a checkpoint and they arranged a check on people, but there was a checkpoint, people were allowed through the checkpoint, so it is artificial, and people there gave 10 or 5 uah for passing through the checkpoint, well, that is, people saw them

go home, the children did not return on november 18, but the passers -by saw the children in the ingulets district of kryvyi rih already on the 19th, the witnesses had absolutely no doubt that it was danylo and george, but on the 20th information began to arrive that the children were in a completely different area of ​​the city.", but there is still no clue the search operation is ongoing, that is why i am addressing this to everyone who

sees me. and especially to the residents of the city of kryvyi rih, take a close look at the photo of the missing children, eight-year-old georgy kovalev looks his age, he is approximately 130 cm tall, he is of medium build, light hair and brown eyes under the left eye, the boy has a clearly visible birthmark on the day of his disappearance, georgy was wearing a blue jacket, a gray cap , black pants and sneakers, his six-year-old friend, danylo lytinets, is a little smaller, about 125 cm tall, also of medium build, also has light hair and blue eyes if anyone has seen these boys after november 18th. if anyone knows where they may be now please don't hesitate to call us on the magnolia children's helpline at the short number 116 000 calls from any mobile operator free of charge or write to botslu chat