and why is the question asked in the problem? we should not cover with fire these points from which ukraine will be bombed from belarus. received from the wound then, believe me, the situation can become extremely dangerous for us, why can't we really put these things in front of our western partners and explain to them that the issue here is really for ukraine, or we will win or we all together with the west will lose, more precisely for the ukrainians this question stands yes. either we will survive and continue to exist, or putin will simply destroy us gradually not only with missiles and missile strikes and hunger and cold and, accordingly, the destruction of critical infrastructure . today, before the two-day meeting of the

foreign ministers of the nato member countries, he also said about it in toltenberg. that the black sea is of great strategic importance for nato and since 2014 the alliance has increased its presence there, and these words of stoltenberg and volodymyr echoed against the background of ukraine's statement that the russian entered the black sea a military ship that can launch cruise missiles, we cooperate more closely with the black sea countries of georgia and ukraine, which are our close partners, said the head of nato, we did this before the war, and of course we will do it many more times . the black sea requires nato's response to the challenges that we see in the columnist said to the region, "what are the options in general, how can nato respond to these challenges in the black sea, and there is one more powerful player in the black sea - it's turkey, we don't take it too far, but what country

can influence the black sea basin and do everything in order to bring order there, or what is missing from these countries, members of nato, and turkey separately, in order to, after all, this russian aroma, which now constitutes, if i am not mistaken, from the 80s ships to be put in place or nailed in place well, let's say so, you know an armada, in my opinion, yes, you are exaggerating a little bit, eh, eh, the role of the importance of what is called the black sea fleet, in fact, specialists talk about it what is a non-fleet and a flotilla, especially after eh moscow left er, it is known where. plus, several other er ships were also damaged, so the experts call it a fleet . well, i am not such a specialist

, but i er refer to the opinion of those who are in this er it's good, it's understandable, it's impossible to call it a fleet, but you understand these words that you just mentioned with the totem of the players, again, these words are beautiful words, it's that there, well, it will increase its presence too much, that nato will patrol more, that's all it's great, but it does n't solve the urgent problem of how to remove this one the threat from the black sea and remove it again, returning to what we just said, it is only possible to arm ukraine in this way so that ukraine removes this threat well, this is just linear logic and dependence, and i think that it should simply be explained to our western partners, just like this in a linear way, please give us 300 km rockets and the threat from this black sea flotilla will disappear dot turkey, what can

turkey do? she has already done good things in this regard and she can continue them she can prohibit the entry of russian warships into the black sea laboratory through the currents because i will create the dardanelles, everything will be done accordingly, russia will have nowhere to go . in novorossiysk and there and there they will be hidden because it seems that we can't shoot out of hand right now. that's all, the whole story with the threat of the black sea, but at the same time, you can, of course, as the nato genset does speak now about what we will think about how to do it well, already think in my way, uh, it's not time anymore time to act, of course, thinking about certain things, but there

will be no escalation in this planned plan, because this is ukraine's right to self-defense, which is enshrined in the un charter, that is, if you are attacked from the black sea, you accept all the full moral, political , legal, diplomatic, and any other reasons to destroy this threat. well, that's all the logic, so i would really like nato to finally start thinking about it more actively as regards to things of the black sea, but not in terms of regular e -verbal configurations, but in terms of providing ukraine with the necessary weapons to finally resolve this issue, the minister of foreign affairs of germany, anna lena berbuk, stated that the missile strikes by russian troops on the energy infrastructure of ukraine are, i quote, a cruel undermining of civilization, these are

attacks of the crudest kind a violation of international law that can only be imagined, she pointed out, promising to continue supporting kyiv, well, we are constantly talking about promises to support us we understand that germany is also forced to economize there. they always save gas indoors, it's not as hot as it sometimes is in ukraine, but still these words are disturbing, we understand that this is a blow to civilization, it's harsh the undermining of civilization, we will continue to support kyiv, and questions arise every time, when will you, when will you start doing this, when a complete blockade will occur on the territory of ukraine, when ukrainians simply will not have the means to warm themselves

light their homes, cook, eat something else , that is, the un in the current situation has probably done the maximum by voting for a resolution that provides for the possibility of reparations from the russian federation for ukraine, and russia was very offended . and according to the un, if these two structures cannot help us in such a critical situation, then the question arises . you know germany, i recently saw a list of the military aid that germany gave us, it is powerful, it must be recognized and we must thank

the german authorities for the fact that, after all, in 7 months, it took a heartbreaking step from the so to speak, from the idea of ​​denying the fact that it is possible to provide any military aid to the fact that it provides us with really powerful weapons that help us defend ourselves against er-e rashists and er-e i think that the dynamics will still er-e increase but ms. ms. lazy burbek, i would still advise visit your colleague, the minister of defense, sit down with her at the same table and think about it, you can do more, and here, actually, you don’t even need to think much, because you know germany’s proposal to transfer the petriv systems to poland just and

well, at least one of the answers is that now germany can do, in this case, for ukraine, to stop playing with legal constructions, you know, that’s what i think, well , it’s only this word of the heads of many european politicians that kills more than reality they they begin to think about how much it will correspond or not correspond to certain points of certain documents, well, documents are written for the purpose of changing them if necessary, at the same time changing them quickly depending on what is happening around, so if in the nato holidays it is written that the mother this is a system that works only for the alliance, which means that you need to make an asterisk in such a document, add one small one and write that but if this happens on the

immediate border of the nato member countries the whole country can transfer to another country such means of deterrence. well, for example, this is just a fantasy on the go, that's why, in fact, it is possible to discuss for months how to supply weapons there, invent some circular schemes, and so on, and we can act faster e going out and rising above these legal formalities or simply changing them quickly, that is exactly what effective management should do. if it is effective, you can go and work according to, you know, the scheme of the italian strike er, work exclusively as written in some paragraph that was adopted er, 50 years ago . well, the efficiency of such a

system will be corresponding, so here you are correctly asking the question about the future of the un security systems, er, such a system has not existed for a long time. she is actually like that and she was not, and now she just once again confirmed her full eh well, if you want, even i would live with such a word irresponsibly, because very often in un documents, eh sounds eh, both sides eh when our russia wants put on one schalke tereziv even to this day, that's why there is nothing to say about nato. but regarding nato, i still believe in this structure, i believe that after its reorganization to a certain extent, after it begins to respond to events in the world properly the future is secure with it, i think that it will still become global and will change in essence and will

play the role of a good policeman who will punish those who violate international law. by the way, no, vladimir, you are talking about what nato can become in the future architecture of security in the world, uh, and we somehow during the last month or a half, we no longer mention it, or at least, well, official kyiv. let's put it this way. the authorities do not mention ukraine's desire to join nato. that is, we declared, we said, we submit an application. we are going to nato, we are going to the north. north atlantic alliance and this is the wave-like policy of ukraine, does it add confidence to the north atlantic alliance that we want to go there, that

we strive to go there, that we are ready to do everything in order to be a member of nato, and if so, can we not we will remind the north atlantic alliance periodically that we are still ready to become members of this alliance, to fulfill all their conditions, which are fulfilled by the countries that are part of this association, and to declare this desire constantly, because these statements come from the mouths of ukrainian officials only in there are some critical moments when we are again massively bombarded, we say everything, we are going to nato, we are already signing an application there, something else, and then , well, a pause, i don’t understand these technical pauses, it’s quite normal, or is it ukraine, after all should conduct a dialogue with the world again about nato and of course that this topic deserves special attention and i agree with you. we must

maintain this degree constantly. phases of the war is a question of joining. i think that it can't be realistic , that is, imagine a situation when ukraine is now , in some way, a breakneck, quickly accepted into nato, and this means that it is a party that is at war with russia in this way, the entire alliance becomes a party that is, you can't imagine it yet, because you see the alliance with all truths and lies . i want to distance myself from the war, but we are not, we do not take part in this, although in reality, i don't really understand why we ourselves should fight for our common values, after all. it is obvious that we are

protecting what the alliance seems to stand for, but the alliance for some reason does not want to understand this. and even the supply of weapons, we see that there is no determination , that's why this is unfortunately the story but you know, i'm more worried about something else in this situation uh, instead of, if it is correct to say , regularly reminding about joining nato, we periodically put forward some uh, zero views, uh, amazing concepts of the erzaz of nato in the form of some uh, uh, rules, uh, or some guarantees that someone gave us someday, somehow, it will cause uh, this seems to me to do much more harm than even if we just keep silent, even if uh, periodically, uh, there are heads of state, our minister uh, spoke at

one or another event, dad, and he just mentioned it and it was clear and would be right, but when at the state level, they create some commissions that invent something instead of a clear understanding of what nato membership is . this seems to me to be our allies. we will give you the truth then and now, not right away, but probably after a few years. well, this is it. it seems to me that it does not contribute to the fact that we perceive it positively, that we need it very, very quickly. structure, although it is clear that the otakb in the version

in which it is now is the basis for russian interests for the promotion of russian interests and dmitriy medvedev has repeatedly said publicly that if there is an otcb, why is there not an otcb there? reacts to what is happening, they say, with the so -called russian territories, because the eu and the soviet union are trying to copy the north atlantic alliance , meanwhile, the self-proclaimed president of belarus oleksandr lukashenko expressed his theories of development of the war in ukraine, he says that america wants to destroy europe and get closer to china through russia, to the point that he again hints at his mediation in possible negotiations between ukraine and russia

. it's unreal , it seems, the military in america are not fools. well, it's absolutely unrealistic, uh, to launch such a war on such a floor, that's why zelensky's ballot simply doesn't give him the opportunity not to speak, they don't give him the opportunity to uh, establish a dialogue with russia federació russia is ready for this. there is no need to move if in this plan there is some additional initiative . -e who was called the most pro-western voice in

lukashenka's team, volodymyr makey, and there are various rumors that what happened to him suddenly, he went to life, no, well, in history, when there are interests of the russian federation, there are interests of lukashenka himself, who are trying it is certain that the participation of the belarusian army in the direct participation of the belarusian army in the war with ukraine by the death of volodymyr makei and the possible instigation of this death by the russian president lukashenka to war or confrontation with ukraine. what can you say about it? about the situation in the north of our border, we have a 1,100 km border with belarus, and one way or another, the russian federation quite often uses this rhetoric in its informational and psychological

war against us regarding a possible campaign in belarus to ukraine well, first of all, i think that we should stop analyzing what lukashenko says . he is not an independent figure, he is a puppet of the kremlin, so it is unlikely that we should pay any serious attention to this rhetoric, because he he works here, did you see that he was interviewed by the agency russia, that is, he works for this all-russian audience, including in belarusian, of course, and in order to explain something about the peace-lovingness of belarus, about the fact that in ukraine it is necessary to sit down at the negotiating table on terms moscow, etc., etc., that is, there is no other , uh, goal. i don’t think there is anything uh, what to look for in relation to that. uh, what happened to

makey ? did not cut the window to europe for belarus and so on, well, this is naivety of the one hundred percent, as they say, one hundred percent type, well, no mckay, no other minister or anyone in totalitarian countries has never decided anything and cannot decide, the dictator decides, everyone else only executors of what this dictator is doing, if he is and what he actually is, what decisions he makes , at the same time, don't forget that makey was a personnel officer of the kgb who worked in this structure for at least 12 years, and then i think he was planted in ministry of foreign affairs of the republic of belarus, because the

position he held there shows that he worked undercover, so i think that there may be two versions about him, or he worked further on the fsb did something wrong. could it be that he passed, as they say to someone, somewhere somehow the road and he was removed. well, it is already quick to discover this death, especially after we saw what happened in yerevan, and, well , returning and immediately dying, you can only if you were helped in this, i think that this is how it happened, or did he play on two fronts, so to speak, on two fronts, on the fsb and on the lukashenka front, we cannot say, this is only guesswork, but it is obvious that the kremlin is behind this in order to demonstrate

that he is the master everywhere, or he everywhere he can do what he wants and it is possible to be just and certain with lukashenko's warning what, well, you will come to us for a week, well, you will come, and the next day you may not be in this world, that is, here we can only guess, but believe me, i think that everything will still return to e connections e-e putin lukashenko, moreover , lukashenko in this case is only the e-e number that is being chased, but which is leading in the meantime, mr. volodymyr, the propagandists at solovyov. they talked about the hague . in

all russians will be guilty of the war, even the janitors, and solovyov picked up on it if russia loses, the whole world will turn to dust, let's see a fragment of this conversation, we will manage to lose the hague, conditional or concrete, even the janitor who sweeps the cobblestones inside the kremlin wall is waiting, that because of this, one more district of kyiv will be left without light or the scale of the catastrophe that our country will face if we manage to do it will not remain ihrady, if that happens, nothing will happen, the whole world will be in ruins, well, actually, we started our conversation with volodymyr, i decided to end it with this because,

well, they are ready. i think that they are not sincerely ready to turn the world into dust, because, uh they already look like people who are interested in their future. what do you think about this rhetoric? i will say to sergey that everything is going in the right way and from what we started, we have to endure, we have to survive this winter, it will be difficult it will be difficult, but i say it through gritted teeth that our guys at the front are much worse than naftil, even when we don't have electricity there for a few hours, there is no heat, and so on. our heroes at the front have a much harder time. they endure and we must endure. well, honestly, what next spring will be decided, the winter before spring

will be the last for this russian federation, and the next spring and summer will be victorious for ukraine. that is why we just have to endure and win. and this whole harness, this whole gang that you have now shown, she will definitely sit down with that forever so that they already have to think now not about their hands with the whole earth but about the breadcrumbs that they will dry for themselves and on which they will sit there, although they tell me that i know that in gas , after all, the conditions for keeping quite good unfortunately, at the end of our program, what can we expect such results from a two-day meeting of foreign ministers of nato member countries in bucharest, well, i really, really hope that despite hungary's opposition and another opposition to another, once again e- e nato ministers e-e will accept the big right

positive decisions regarding aid to ukraine in armaments in the first place well and e there should also help ukraine with energy equipment because it is obvious that without it it will be really difficult for us thank you mr. volodymyr for participating in the program take care of yourself and your loved ones see you in in the next broadcasts, friends, we are working, we will continue to work live on the espresso tv channel, we will tell you about the most important events in the life of our country and abroad, we will talk about the war, we will talk about the heroes of the war, we will show war heroes, please. if you want to see more of us on your gadgets, you can subscribe to our social networks. we are on twitter, on facebook, on instagram, we are also on telegram and, of course, we are on the main resources on social

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