they wanted it and began to push them relentlessly . but i believe that it is difficult to end this war. the ukrainians are clearly not ready for any compromises. they want their territories back and will not stop fighting until they get them. for putin, a cease- fire or a truce would mean that he did not achieve any of his goals, he would not even receive a part of ukraine, which was annexed in violation of international law, in september he had to explain what was the point of this, so i am afraid that the war will continue for some time, it will end most likely the successes of the ukrainians in land battles to dislodge the russians will come closer, they believe that this will be the key factor and that's all for today, see you tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. for all the best special project

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program on wednesday, november 30, the collaborators' list of miklushka at 4:45 p.m. on the espresso slava ukraine tv channel, this program is the verdict, my name is serhiy rudenko everyone have a good day and good health today is the 277th day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers nato is deciding how to help ukraine survive this winter at night the russians fired four missiles from hurricanes along the dnipro and heavy artillery shelled the nikopol district of the dnipropetrovsk region no dead or injured in the dnipro they targeted a private enterprise there is serious destruction and fire volodymyr zelenskyi and the armed forces of ukraine have warned of a possible series of missile strikes by russia this week when exactly will the attack unknown well, ukraine received a

salvo missile system from france, meanwhile, the russian army continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine, as of the morning of november 29, russia lost 58,000,380 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 480 orks with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 290 and 2911 tanks, 5866 armored fighting vehicles, 1901 artillery systems, 395 rocket systems, 209 air defense systems, 280 aircraft, 261 helicopters 4,423 units of automotive equipment 16 ships, boats, 531 cruise missiles, 1,555 drones, 163 units of special equipment, about the ministry meeting

of foreign ministers of nato member countries in bucharest, possible assistance of the united states of america to ukraine in the winter and the possibility of peace talks between whole kyiv and official moscow, we are speaking in the next hour, our guest politician diplomat minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009 volodymyr hryshko mr. volodymyr good day to you good health and thank you for joining our broadcast, mr. serhiy , good, good evening. and good evening to all our dear listeners, viewers, and i think i will say what we all feel today, despite the threat. of our viewers, mr. volodymyr, you and we also

had a calm evening on the tv channel. so , today the ministers of foreign affairs of the nato countries gathered for a two-day meeting in bucharest to discuss the continuation of military aid to kyiv the day before, nato secretary general jens stoltenberg said that putin will use winter as an additional weapon, that is why the allies will increase the supply of additional air defense systems to ukraine, we will hear from toltenberg after these terrible shellings, we see that putin wants to use winter as a weapon, this is terrible and we must be ready for new ones attacks, that is why nato allies have increased their assistance to ukraine with additional air defense systems, mr. volodymyr, observing what has been happening over the past month and a half in ukraine, there is in mind since october 10, 2022. when the first massive missile attacks on civilian

infrastructure of critical objects took place, is the north atlantic alliance and the west as a whole not doing enough to stop vladimir putin because in his desire to destroy not only critical infrastructure but also the ukrainian state it seems that vladimir putin is ready to go to the end. is the west ready to go to the end in order to stop it with the help of ukraine, of course, or ukraine with the help of the north atlantic alliance of vladimir putin yes, mr. sergey, you are 100% right when you say that putin will not stop , and you and i have talked about this many times, and he cannot stop, because stopping for him will mean the end of him personally, the end of this regime, the end of russia well, the truth is that russia will end like that, but the first two factors definitely hold it back as much as possible. by the way, you know, the other day,

i watched another russian propaganda channel. unfortunately, i am forced to do this as the head of the russian research center. and you know what i i was impressed, well, this is the main propagandist lady of semenyan, if you can see her right away, of course, the lady was very worried about the agar court and i will tell you that this is a good sign, it means that they understand that there will be a punishment, that you cannot commit a bloody crime crimes and think that it is possible to avoid this punishment. so, er, i think that there are also very interesting er processes going on inside, er, and they also affect what our western partners do. i just made such a small er retreat to return to your lord sergey, the question is whether nato is doing everything necessary.

nato is very carefully watching what is happening inside the russian federation and it is doing it, it seems to me, meticulously and accurately analyzing the possible possible steps, well, i can't say that they are all adequate, i can't for one simple reason. that's why that nato could have done much more so that the war would end sooner and we are already using all the cynicism of our ukrainian armed forces for this, unfortunately this is not happening because nato continues to be afraid of some kind of financial escalation. i don't really understand what they mean by this term now, but the word itself has started to appear again, that is, some kind of escalation is some kind of potential threat. it's just that it's not clear to me, at least what is meant, in my opinion, all the

escalations are over. that's all. only nuclear war and chemical weapons, that's why it seems to me that here nato could be more decisive because of this determination. it seems to me that the bloc is not enough, let's say, after the fall. in many other cases, when the reaction should have been different. well, unfortunately, maturing to such tough decisions in nato takes place very, very slowly. it affects the reaction of vladimir putin , that is, he feels completely unpunished. does not retaliate against strikes on the territory of poland , a country that is part of the north atlantic alliance

. putin sees that the world calmly watches as he destroys critical infrastructure in to ukraine and leaves ukrainians without light, without heat , without hot water at all, without elementary uh-uh, is there a line somewhere in this story that he will not cross? when it comes to the fate of 40 million people living on the european continent, it seems to me that it is time for this european continent to understand that in this situation, putin must only be stopped by force or by physical elimination from the authorities well, you see in this, mr. serhiyovych, the problem is that instead of

reacting quickly and harshly to everything that is happening in ukraine today, they keep telling us that we will supply you with generators, we will supply you with heaters there and so on and so on well, this is very good, and we thank you for it, so that people still have the opportunity to survive somehow in this situation. in the disease itself, the causes of this disease a the causes of this disease, you just don't show the kremlin, it's an ominous place on earth, where i think some otherworldly forces have gathered, because common sense cannot explain the actions on these people who are sitting there, that's why i'm saying that, unfortunately, nato could

react much more intensively to what is happening and do it quickly. i really hope that today's meeting with the minister for new affairs of ukraine, nato and our minister will push our western partners to the need to still to move from help for survival to help for victory, this seems to me to be the key to today's situation, survival is one thing, it means that the suffering of ukrainians will continue, that we will have electricity for a few hours day uh, but this does not mean that the shelling will decrease, we understand very well where the bases are located from which ukraine is shelled

. the range there is 80 or 150 km, and the range is 900 km or 500 km, depending on what we are talking about in this question, survival actually ends after that, the ukrainian army has a powerful potential, primarily psychological, even after these barbaric bombings end to show russia that there is nothing there that can restrain the ukrainian armed forces and this hastened the unconditional end of the war, but for this we need to make a political decision that we, our ukrainian armed forces, must immediately receive means of destruction on the territory of the russian federation , and this must be explained to our western partners that we will not defeat russia in any other way until the ukrainian armed forces attack not

only on the territory of ukraine, but also on the places of concentration of the occupiers a and e military bases on the territory of russia from which shelling of ukraine takes place. well, we will not be able to overcome this situation, why why should we not destroy the black sea fleet of the russian federation? well, it's simple, as they say, 90 degrees is like a door, what did you want to say? well, if we if we read every day in the information that er russia has brought to the category of the black sea there 3:2 10 er ships that have er on them er calibers with such joy we should allow them er to walk on the black sea why we can't destroy them right away, for this we just need appropriate er technique and appropriate solutions, well, can't

we go that way, believe me. if this happened, it seems to me that er left very quickly in some er clusters against the enemy of belarus because belarus is also tactical participates in the war and it is actually a participant in this terrible tragedy because it allows its territory to bomb ukraine. and why is it asked in the task we should not cover with fire these points from which ukraine is being bombed from belarus and now if also er, there will be confirmed data about what er russia receives from china, what it did not receive from the wound, then believe me, the situation can become extremely dangerous for us, why we cannot really put these things in front of our

western partners and explain what is the question to them here is really for ukraine either we will win or we will all together with the west lose, more precisely for ukrainians this is the question: either we will survive and continue to exist or putin will simply destroy us gradually not only with missiles and missile strikes and hunger and cold and accordingly the destruction of critical infrastructure today, before the two-day meeting of the foreign ministers of the nato member states from toltenberg, he said that for nato and since 2014, the alliance has increased its presence there. these words of stoltenberg p volodymyr, they were heard against the background of ukraine's statement about the fact that a russian warship that can launch cruise

missiles entered the black sea. to do many more times, the black sea requires nato's response to the challenges we see in the region, toldberg said. there is one powerful player in the black sea, it is turkey separately, but it is a country that can influence the black sea basin and do everything in order to bring order there. - still this russian armada, which now consists of 80 ships if i am not mistaken, put them in place or pin them in place well, let's say so, you know well, it's an armada

, in my opinion, you are exaggerating a little bit the role of the importance of the so-called black sea fleet in fact, the specialists talk about it. what is a non- fleet and a flotilla, especially after moscow went to who knows where? plus, several other ships were also damaged, so the specialists already have to call it a fleet. well because i'm not such a specialist, but i refer to the opinion of those who are good at this. it's impossible to call it a fleet, but do you understand these words that you just mentioned? words are beautiful words, they are the fact that nato will increase its presence too much to control more, everything is fine, but it doesn’t , uh, doesn’t solve the urgent problem of how to remove this threat from the black sea, brothers, and again,

returning to what we just said, there is only one way to arm ukraine so that ukraine removes this threat well, such a linear simple logic and dependence, and i think that it should simply be explained to our western partners, that is exactly the same linear way, please give us 300 km missiles and the threat from this black sea flotilla will disappear full stop turkey, what can turkey has already done a good job in this regard and it can continue to do it. it can prohibit the entry of russian warships into the black sea through the streams of the bosphorus and the dardanelles. these little girls who are hanging out there, who will stay afloat there, she will quickly drive them to novoro and hide them there and there because,

well, it seems that we can't shoot out of hand right now. that's all, that's the whole story. with the threat of e-e on to the black sea, but at the same time, you can of course how to do it nato secretary general talk now about what we will think how to do it well already think in my way uh it's not time already it's time for a diet of course thinking about one or another things but no escalation in this planned there will be no plan because this is ukraine's right to self-defense, which is enshrined in the un charter, that is, if you are attacked from the black sea, you accept all the full moral, political, legal, diplomatic , and any other reasons for this threat to destroy the notes, all the logic, so i would really like to in nato has finally begun to think more actively

about what concerns the black sea, but not in terms of another verbal configuration, but in terms of providing ukraine with the necessary weapons so that this issue can finally be resolved, german foreign minister anna lena berbuk said about the fact that missile strikes by russian troops on the energy infrastructure of ukraine are, quote, a cruel undermining of civilization, these attacks are the most gross violation of international law that one can only imagine , she pointed out, promising to continue support kiev, well, we are constantly talking about promises to support, we understand that in germany, too, they are forced to economize. they always save gas there in the premises, not so hot, as it sometimes happens in ukraine, but

still words, we are concerned, we understand that this is a blow to civilization, this is a severe undermining of civilization, we will continue to support kyiv, and every time, every time, questions arise, and when will you, when will you start doing this when a complete blockade will already occur on the territory of ukraine, when ukrainians simply won't have the means to warm themselves, light their homes, cook, eat anything else, that is, the un in the current situation probably did the maximum by voting for a resolution that provides for the possibility of reparations from the russian federation for ukraine, and russia was very offended. well, relatively speaking what can be in the current security architecture in the world the highest there

behind nato and the un. if these two structures cannot help us in such a critical situation, then it arises and what can happen next not only from ukraine but in general, with the whole world, well, let's start with germany, you know, i recently saw a list of military aid that germany provided us, it is powerful, it must be recognized and we must thank the german government for what it is, after all, for seven months has taken a drastic step from uh itself, so to speak, from the idea of ​​denying the fact that it is possible to provide any military aid to the fact that it is now providing us with really powerful weapons that help us defend ourselves against uh rashists and uh, i think that the dynamics will still increase

but in ms. ms. lenya berbuk, i would still advise you to visit your colleague, the minister of defense, and sit down with her at the same table and think about it, you can still do more, and you don’t even need to think much here because you know germany's proposal to hand over to poland the uh petriv system is just and uh well at least one of the answers is that now germany can uh can do uh in this case for ukraine uh stop playing with legal constructions you know that's what i think er, well, only this word drives the heads of many european politicians more than reality, they begin to think about how it will correspond or not correspond to certain

points of certain documents in documents in order to write them in order to change them if necessary, and to change them quickly depending on what is happening around, so if in nato's saints it is written that this is a system that works only for the alliance, which means that in such a document you need to make an asterisk, add one small one and write that but in the event that this happens on the immediate border of nato member countries. the whole country can transfer to another country such means of deterrence. well, for example, this is just a fantasy on the go. therefore, in fact, it is possible to discuss for months how to supply weapons there, invent some circular schemes, we would us and so on, and we can act faster by going out and rising above these legal

formalities, or just changing them quickly, that’s what effective management should do. a strike er, work exclusively as it is written in some paragraph that you accepted er, 50 years ago. well, the efficiency of such a system will be corresponding, so here you are correctly asking the question about the future of the un security system, er, such a system has not existed for a long time. she is actually like that and she was not, and now she just once again confirmed her full eh well, if you want, even i would live with such a word irresponsibly, because very often in un documents, eh sounds eh, both sides eh when our russia wants put schalke on one

libra even to this day, that's why there's nothing to talk about the un. but regarding nato, i still believe in this structure, i believe that after its reorganization to a certain extent, after it begins to respond to events in the world properly. it has a safe future, i think it will become global after all, it will change in essence and will play the role of a good policeman who will punish those who violate international law. by the way, don't talk about what nato can become . in the future security architecture of in the last month or one and a half, we no longer mention, or at least,

the official kyiv. let's put it this way. the authorities do not mention ukraine's desire to join nato. that is, we declared, we said, we submit an application. the alliance is like a wave - the wave -like policy of ukraine does it add confidence to the north atlantic alliance that we want to go there, that we strive to go there, that we are ready to do everything in order to be a member of nato, and if so, can we not to remind periodically to the north atlantic alliance that we are still ready to become members of it, but simply to fulfill all their conditions, which are fulfilled by the countries that are part of this association, and, well, to constantly declare this desire, because uh, these statements come from the mouths of ukrainian officials only in some there are critical moments when

we are uh again uh massively shelled, we say everything, we go to nato, we already sign an application there, something else, and then well, pause, i don’t understand these technical pauses, it’s quite normal, isn’t that all ukraine must lead a dialogue with the world again about nato, of course, this topic deserves special attention, and i agree with you. we must constantly maintain this degree. the only point that we, as realists, have to pay attention to is that, of course, during the hot phase of the war, there is a question of joining. i think, well, it can't be realistic , that is, imagine a situation when ukraine is now , by some kind of er, quickly accepted into nato, and this means that it is a party