this is a 0% region. well, even look at mariupol, which is now occupied, they say that people who were forced to return because someone is guarding their house, because they say that it can be taken away until he is not there, then they, uh, being under occupation, still make lists of collaborators and it is clear. when mariupol, for example, returns to the control of ukraine, people will come with the same lists , they will probably demand the same as in the kherson region, for some kind of fair punishment , and actually, will our system be ready? law enforcement to the point that somehow, well, after all, he would demarcate or show these people that what they did was bad, or that it was still the responsibility of the citizens of ukraine themselves to arrange well, not to burn houses, but at least to arrange such an obstruction so that these people would simply understand that there is no place for them here and they packed their bags and

left for themselves in peace in russia, let them go there and simply not return. of course, the easiest option is let everyone go, it will be easier before that. well, we witnessed how these began traditional measures and stabilization measures, but it is precisely in several communities that it is necessary to understand that the volume of work is large, uh, well, people are left, and it ’s a lot of time and resources to ask everyone, i don’t think that there is enough evidence base. well, the words of a person so that he sees how is someone drinking? well , that won't be enough for the court. here, the situation is usually very difficult and a lot will depend on the local level.

of such a quality of such quality and of such a character that the community defines as collaboration um, i think there will be very different cases, but i just got acquainted with stanislav there, no one has been punished, writes uh, and that's all, no, no, well, we don't have a sbu field cope and we will have a very large variety in different cities and villages, towns , uh, scenarios of how events will unfold, somewhere there will be an impression that there will be no punishment, somewhere somewhere there will be lynchings, somewhere there will not be, somewhere there will be remorse , somewhere people will simply change, for example, even within the limits of the kherson region of their residence well, the lists are now so similar lists, what i see

is that they will soon be in every village, and not only in the cities of the left bank, now in every village there is a chat in telegram where people report such cases, well, that's right also today they mentioned the tortured writer, and volodymyr vakulenko, a children's writer, and in izyum, someone identified the body, and this, too, and the twine will be very informed that they reported on him, that there were some people who pointed to him, after that he was detained, but with another on the other hand, i just think it's just those people, they're boats are left somewhere in izyum for sure. well, if it's really so, but on the other hand, we remember that even a week from now, before the invasion, there was information from american intelligence that in particular, they printed about this, they even asked for a comment to the president’s office, zelenskyy did not receive it then, and about

the fact that siya already has firing lists in case of the occupation of ukraine, that is, lists where, first of all, there were figures of some ukrainian intelligentsia let's call those cultures that had to be exterminated first of all during the occupation, and it is quite likely that such people as vakulenko were on these lists, and those who did not have time to simply leave the occupation, they were first of all arrested and destroyed yes, they definitely had some lists, but you don’t need to exaggerate them either. well, several friends who were detained because of this were held in the kherson pre-trial detention center there or in another city in skadovsky, they say that there is very little coordination between the various forces of the russian units that they have quite this the information was actually that they

acted according to a pattern and hmm, very few of them at the beginning , until they collected new informants. and this happened as late as the summer. that is, they did not know the true state of the case and this is evidence, but the fact that the lists were accurate, but what was the quality of this information, it was pathetic in them, often we now showed photos - this is such a scary story from the kherson region, the village of myrolyubivka, the name is peace-loving, but there. well, actually, about this example of collaboration, and such a very scary one, i don’t even know if it’s a coffin in which a 16-year-old girl is buried, a local girl who was raped by something for 10

years. the girl was in love with a boy, 18 years old, he worked as a security guard at some local to the farm and this one, well, these guys, of course, threatened that stepfather, thinking that they were friends, they didn’t burden him yet, if you continue to behave like this, we will hand you over to the ukrainian authorities, and this stepfather went and told the russians that yes, yes, these must be destroyed. of course , the russians did so, they planted explosives there, they destroyed both these boys and this girl, and what's more , they didn't even let them bury the corpses of the dead for a long time. this is a story and a girl. this is a terrible story, why did he confess in the end that he did it, then they found a bunch of things in his house that he had stolen from his neighbors , taking advantage of the moment while the village was under the muscovites. well, that is, there is no happy ending here, so

he confessed, but did not return it to anya a girl not even those boys who, well, they were for ukraine , moreover, even in such a small example and protected a girl from being raped by her stepfather, well, those are the cases when the russians pulled out such inhumans, there were a lot of them, they gave them a chance to hide on people with the lowest human standards came to them to steal and settle accounts. they tell me about similar cases there in arabatke. there is also a murderer who is now entering. he is smiling. as he says, i will turn you in. yes. spoke and this is exactly such material. now it is the basis

of their organization. these are the ones on whom they are clinging to. unnecessary is well, such is the foundation of the occupying power, uh, the supporters of the russian peace , they uh, well, they are like that, they got a chance, a chance , but finally, bespredelnychaite there, and for this and for this one, there will be nothing uh, so that mr. serhiy, for the last time, what i wonder what is going on there, we were passing it on, we said that one of the nieces was arrested there, and as far as i understand, the disaster will pass, but they have already explained to me that he

has very, very many of those nieces . not much. they can have different political positions. it’s just that, well, about the tests, about the longing, uh, the arrest will apply, uh, it doesn’t mean anything to me, first of all, but it is very revealing from the point of view of the situation in the establishment, one way or another, it’s the plan of the khamenevs er, this is the part here is this continuous of people who are close to the government or are in the government and based on those um, in fact, stingy informational messages, it can be concluded that inside and inside the stampichment, inside the ruling group, raskol is called or it has already happened, and this is a very important signal for the protesters and for those who follow according to the situation, since the popular protest is a split, the

elites are the second important component and the third is political representation, which protesting groups must form in order to win, but two of the three components have already been formed, and the third is being formed now the fourth is not necessary, but also very important, the transfer of the army or certain army units to the side of the protesters. well, this is not enough yet. well, this is evidence of the state in which the ruling groups and groups close to the ruling groups are. there is a brutal internal struggle here, as far as i understand it. one more point that is not obvious to us, but which we are just now beginning to understand that iran is not some mono-ethnic, mono-national country.

she died and the protests started. she is, for example, by nationality. since i understand that she is a jacket and the kurds make up a large minority. it is enough. and in addition, there is a very large minority of azerbaijanis , for example, of other nationalities, so i understand that only persians are about half of the veterans. that means that this also has national characteristics, so all the uprisings or demonstrations that are taking place, can this eventually lead to some other configuration of the very morning, yes, persians are about half but there are smaller peoples people are also very related to the persians. well, there are groups such as, for example, the arabihu zastan, this is a province on the shores of the persian gulf, with an auto-mining plant, who live in very bad conditions, problems with water, terrible environmental problems, and always when the arabihu

zastan came forward, moreover, the sunnis used to advocate for water simply for clean air for the opportunity to live as they were accused of being separatists and that is why the fundamental difference between these protests and the previous ones is for the first time solidarity between the geranium conditionally as a symbol of the persians in fact, with the kurdish regions with georgia with azerbaijan and with the best whitewashers, the national minority that lives in the south of and today from pakistan and now at demonstrations they shout slogans in tehran for support, they say hello, you know how football fans are when one tribune starts shouting and the other is the opposite on the other hand , it picks up so, uh, if we continue the football analogy, now uh, not the reconciliation of the team of

fans and even their pockets, that is, hooligans unite like we did in the 14th year when uh ultras of shakhtar and dynamo together went to the front to defend the independence of ukraine, and now there is a unique situation in iran. when this happened, the same thing happened when in azerbaijan, iranian azerbaijan in dobrizia shouted slogans in support of the kurds, it must be said that between the azerbaijanis, iran and the purds well , this is a rather complicated relationship and there are many mutual negative stereotypes. at the moment, there is a wave of mutual support for solidarity. will this lead to the fact that the national minorities and these ethnic groups , in the event of victory, will claim greater statuses and on other uh, uh, constitutional, even the conditions of functioning in the new early ones from the side

. now men will be in power, they will not resort to such extreme measures, both in relation to their own people and in relation to some international politicians, again, russia has ballistic missiles there too, the pentagon has made some calculations that there are hundreds they say hundreds, they don't say how many drones they received. but is it actually iran to save itself from iran, and the current government of iran to save itself, its own skin, it won't be there already in the mountain. on neighboring

countries at the polish court or on azerbaijan actually, well, it will be a step away from tea to start a war in order to, um, some kind of internal consolidation, change the agenda from domestic to war and call on this terrible experience, and early iraq the war that lasted there for almost 10 years. well, the regime is not lucky, because now it is not possible to attack iraq , there is not, there is definitely not the right government. who wants to give some reasons for such a repetition? i seriously considered the possibility that they would try strike israel but does every day of protests, in my opinion, on the contrary, reduce this probability at the moment, mmm. let

it help them and it doesn't look like they hit back, they won't be perceived by veran society as applause in the same way as point applause hit the ukrainian artillery is now being greeted with cheers, but those from skadovska or chaplinka, that is, it is only uh completely delicitizing this last islander , what is their anti-israeli or anti-american agenda, and inside the country they have already taken extreme measures, but today, well , starting from sunday, for sure er, entire cities in the iranian protestant are completely blocked by the army with heavy weapons, heavy machine guns are used , and the places of the city are cleaned with the use of live cartridges and heavy equipment, including helicopters

it will continue, serhiy danilov, deputy director of the middle eastern studies center, was with us, we talked with him about kherson, where he recently visited, about kherson region and about iran, and now we are joined by serhiy zgurets, a military expert and director of the defense express company, mr. sergey good morning good morning i congratulate you here we have finished a bit on the iranian issue with mr. sergey danilov actually there is news that israel and the usa are conducting aviation exercises simulating strikes on iran this is the usa israel sends greetings and hints that the sobran has calmed down and with its question about helping russia to sleep, it’s enough to train on cardboard targets, well, well, try the development of battles. well, we are really talking about the fact that iran supplied drones to russia that were

used across ukraine. now we see that in the latest types of missile attacks by the enemy , the hashids have become minimal. the situation with the delivery of these ballistic missiles that russia was going to purchase in iran, i think that either political pressure on iran or certain measures , the influence of the influence on certain officials, as we can see, led to the result that these missiles are not being delivered yet and probably ran certain exhibitions from the review including the power of israel of the united states, which can actually carry out such strikes on a critical structure , and early on there is talk of the nuclear power that iran is developing, and power that can

to manufacture ballistic missiles or components of the iranian defense-industrial complex, so i think that the leadership takes these factors into account early on, it is probably starting to behave more moderately in the situation with russia, arms deliveries to russia, mr. serhiy, i did not listen to it yesterday. andriy e reported that andriy e said that soon ukraine will receive a whole bunch of f16 e a lot of patriots and a lot of other equipment together with honey 29s, so that by the way they are just like a simple simple deduction i i understood that he probably also read this article on bloomberg, where it was announced that ukraine may soon receive it, but i understand that in the end we have a refutation even regarding the patriots, now it is official, well, this story was able to be on the 29th of us yesterday , it was just eh mr. hnat, he also said that the

spokesman and the military officer of ukraine, he said that he could 29 polish ones in particular, but they won’t make the weather anymore, it’s not that we really need them now. what can you say about the results ? of this entire history in particular and themselves there bucharest, or are we still getting some weapons, because he said in the end at kuleb in bucharest that we now say not three words weapons weapons weapons but three words faster faster faster submit it about the patriot complex and the f-16 publication in the blogs it was a publication there by the former military general stavridis, who said that the united states and nato are discussing the possibility of speeding up the transfer of these weapons, but without details, then there was a report from the puppies

, which said that the pentagon is considering the possibility of transferring patriots to ukraine as one of the priority directions for strengthening the air defense of ukraine, although the issue of planes has not yet been discussed, in turn, there was this certain ping-pong between germany and poland where germany promised to transfer two two batteries there, poland said what would happen it is better if these patriots were immediately handed over to ukraine, for which germany said that it should be decided by nato, and the gense chamber in tottenberg said that actually it should not necessarily be decided by nato - it is their own the transfer of a separate country and such deliveries can be carried out so that this uh-e is quite such a lively discussion around the petrovskys, it suggests that we are really approaching the moment when there will be a decision

on the decision on the transfer of the petrovskys so far this is as i understand it a political discussion it is still did not crystallize into a final decision, but everything will depend primarily on the position of the united states . because now the united states, if i am not mistaken, has about 400 complexes of patriots of various of modifications and actually the united states can transfer them quickly during a short interim period after preparation, the preparation may take several months there, but the air force command said almost there or two weeks, but i think that it was they who significantly over-optimistically assessed the possibilities of mastering, that is, the question of months may be the main thing that among these i wanted there are missiles of different classes that can perform both ballistic functions and aerodynamic functions, so that in fact i think that we are on the verge of approval the decision on the transfer of petri because it will be faster

and easier than the story with the f16s or other aircraft of the western countries. what about the polish mig-29? 29s, which really do not suit us at all anymore, because the question is about a significant number of missiles that we need for these fighters. i think that actually now the stock of missiles for mig-29 is gradually running out in the nato countries, and in fact then there is no point in getting these missiles and that's why the reaction was just like that er yuriy hnata for a statement about whether the polish university will be transferred to us there on the ninth and in general what can we say about the results of the bukharev summit about ukraine as predicted opening

, but some draw attention to the fact that there is a promise that immediately after the end of the war, ukraine will become a member of nato . between countries will sign the so-called memorandum between each country to speed up the accession process, and thus you formed such a thing completely in order for ukraine to become a member of nato. i think this process will not be easy, and we also need to avoid such a significant preparatory period as -e from following the example of sweden and finland, what our politicians say that it was more expedient. and from the point of view of the nato countries themselves, i think that simply among the low countries there is simply a fear that, in fact, a country fighting there which is at war with russia there, it imposes

additional obligations on the national side, and this will be a certain such a receiving factor for the low nato countries, on the other hand, there is a completely different correct thesis that ukraine is now carrying out the main mission, which it is not yet able to fulfill on nato is precisely to hold the russian federation and conduct effective combat operations, the example of the ukrainian army demonstrates that actually not every nato country could introduce such intensive actions, so they think that actually now this military success on the battlefield is our strength will be the main factor in order to bring these political skeptics to nato who are afraid of the origin of ukraine to nato in the near future or in the short term, nevertheless , uh, there is the president at the door, he is by the way, oh, also the president under the video, the russian head, the former russian president medvedev immediately reacted to this information about the possible

transfer of the petrines to ukraine and said that if they are found in ukraine, then russia will destroy them, and how to treat this, i.e. and for example, if in we have s300s, so they don’t specifically shoot at them because they are russian-made, or how to interpret it now, thanks to the soviet buk and s-300s, we were able to neutralize all the aspirations of the russian federation to gain dominance in the air, they are afraid to fly into our airspace, they launch their missiles from a distance far from their own territory, and we do this mainly with soviet air defense systems with a slight admixture of western models. there is a range of up to 160 km and actually two batteries there can protect cities such as kyiv or kharkiv not only from cruise missiles

. in fact, even to threaten and in this direction to completely deprive the russian federation of military power and on earth, in the air, in the air, and on the water should actually be a common task of the nato countries and ukraine, where we at the expense of foreign weapons, we do this difficult work with our forces, with our armed forces. and this is because of what we have now, the russians cannot launch missiles at us, i mean all over the territory of ukraine , because one way or another, some parts of ukraine are being shelled now, e- is it because they have nothing to fire at all of ukraine, or is it because they are preparing something again ? i want to invent something to shock us again. well , we know that the number of surface-to-air missiles that

were mainly used in the federation there was the first 555. they have limited quantities . previous ones conclusions that there will be a maximum of 3-4 attacks with this intensity, as it was there a couple of weeks ago, i think that now the enemy is solving two tasks, firstly, it accumulates missiles, secondly, it prescribes programs , uh, on the flight, numbers that, thirdly, for sure we are looking for the possibility of more effective actions, because i understand that actually he cannot penetrate even the defenses that are in ukraine today, weapons that shoot down 80 from 70 to 90 of these cruise missiles . i think that now you are just delaying the moment when it he says, "are you going to chew this one there?" the story about the russian missile threat, that now there will be a massive strike, we will discuss it and in this way, well, spread internal internal anxiety instead of just saying, let's hope that our work will be offered and then after a certain time they will still

carry out such missile gifts strikes with the results that we know, that is, a part is against this, but most of it will be defeated, we understand that this is our current reality, with which we actually have to calmly perceive the surrounding events without a general of the internal company or anxiety, what is it? thank you very much, mr. serhiy serhiy sgorets, military expert , director of the defense express company, was with us at this hour. well, we have less than a minute left, we have less than a minute left, we will remind you that at the beginning of our current part of the marathon we have given you the task to propose your names for russia, and grisha grigoriy suggests calling russia a toilet bowl nestor coffin, i don’t know the last name of the coffin. probably this nickname is suggested by someone who suggests calling it pahanat ripoidi. such interesting names if

do you have any suggestions? the marathon continues for three more hours , andriy kazhy. i want to say that they are watching how in yakutia they distributed ice to a family of mobilized people, that is, they simply cut out ice and distributed it. we will show and tell you about it in our next hour . we always remember all those ukrainians, whether they took their lives or on the battlefield or in their homes, whether russia took their lives, muscovy, a vacuum cleaner plowed by triporepoids, or whatever you want to call the country, a terrorist, a minute of silence, we will observe a minute of silence the memory of ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia