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150 shells and other explosives on the border communities of the sumy region. killed and wounded in the meantime, the russian army continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine, as of the morning of november 30, russia has already lost 88,880 people in ukraine only in the last day, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 500 orks with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 2,914 tanks, 5,872 armored combat vehicles, 1,902 artillery systems, 395 rocket salvo systems, 210 air defense systems, 280 aircraft, 261 helicopters , 4,423 units of automotive equipment, 16 ships, boats, 531 winged aircraft rocket 1562 drones 163 units of

special equipment bakhmut the hottest point on the eastern front the president of the european commission assessed the losses of the ukrainian army and when the united states the americans will supply patriot battery systems to ukraine, we will talk about this in the next hour and we will be in touch with andriy illienko, an officer of the freedom battalion of the national guard of ukraine, who is fighting near bakhmut p. good day to andriy, good health to you, and good evening. thank you for joining our broadcast. so, to the president volodymyr zelenskyi of ukraine yesterday in his evening address to the citizens of ukraine spoke about the state of affairs at the front line, he says the situation is difficult and our soldiers are on the defensive, let's hear from zelenskyi the situation at the front is difficult, despite extremely

large russian losses, the occupiers are still trying to advance on donetsk region, gain a foothold in luhansk region, move on kharkiv region, and they are planning something in the south, but we are holding the defense and most importantly do not allow the enemy to carry out their intentions, they said that they would seize donetsk region in the spring, summer , autumn of this year winter is already starting in a week. they put their regular army there, they lose there every day hundreds of mobilized and mercenaries, they use there for a hail of troops even this year russia will lose 100,000 of its soldiers killed and only god knows how many mercenaries. and ukraine will stand. so, andrei. please tell me what is happening around bakhmut and on the outskirts of the

city . what is the situation on the eastern front ? -e, the enemy does not stop trying to introduce offensive storm actions, e-e, the battles are very intense, artillery shelling is very intense at the moment, e-e, they absolutely do not count with anything, they just roll around the city, e-e , on the very bahmut, on high-rise buildings to the private sector, that is, i understand that in general this is not even any kind of aimed fire, it is just such a chaotic fire, the actual destruction of the city, and at the same time, i want to say that the ukrainian defense in the bahamian direction continues to be strong and indomitable, and, let's say, huge losses the enemy what ukrainian defenders make all the statements there that were there the other day are fake e-e from

russian propagandists who said that bakhmut will be surrounded there soon or something like that is completely untrue bakhmut all the main roads leading to bakhmut from the territory controlled by ukraine are completely under ukrainian control, that is, at the moment, all these statements are absolutely untrue, this is a painful battle, but the situation is difficult because it is difficult, in particular, and here is our svoboda battalion, our fourth brigade of the operational assignment of the national guard, in one of the sections of the bakhmut direction, in brutal and serious battles, it inflicts heavy losses on the enemy, mr. andrii, who is the bakh from whom the road goes in the time of yar a also in the direction of slavyansk and kostiantynivka or

the russian army is clear. why is it trying to occupy this city now? there is some strategic goal. why do they want to take this city so much at the beginning of the great war, a large-scale war, on february 24? well, in fact, bakhmut has become such a direct front-line city somewhere inside, in the middle of summer, probably somewhere in july, bakhmut was actually almost near the front line, and from that time the battle for bakhmut began, that is, the enemies immediately wanted, the russians immediately wanted to advance further to bakhmut and they tried to take it because bakhmut is really a strategic city because it is such a junction of roads, it is actually the key to the whole of

donbas. assault to take bakhmut, although there were several attempts, attempts continue, they were unable to surround the city again, although they threw here almost everything that was combat-ready that they had left, but they could not do it, and in fact, why are they so stubbornly climbing right here? i think that there are a number of reasons, first of all, it is a purely political reason, because the russian occupation army has suffered a series of painful defeats , starting with the defeat near kyiv by chernihiv under the sums of the kharkiv region in september, kherson region very recently, and i think that their logic is that they want somewhere, they want to get at least some local success, they want to show that they are still capable of advancing and are still capable of conducting some offensive operations, that's the first reason, the second reason is actually that what i said, bakhmut is really strategically very

important because it is a junction of roads, it is a strategic crossroads and it is obvious that it is in their plans, uh, well, if it is their aggression, it plays an important role. well, plus, i think that, again, it is more political a propaganda story because it is obvious that this whole war is a war to destroy ukraine, ukrainians, the ukrainian nation, but you see that the propaganda explanation that the kremlin gives to this war changes all the time, that is, in the beginning, it was denazification, demilitarization, the so-called and now they talk less and less about it at all, they almost don’t talk about it at all, they only talk about donbas, that is, they are emphasizing now and supposedly in general well, it is obvious that it is not so obvious that it is a delusion and an excuse for their defeats, but with their propaganda rhetoric, this is what they present that the whole war was supposed to be necessary in order for them to capture donbass. and now they are really concentrating their forces here in donbass and

trying to show in this way that this is the main direction of the war for them. well, i think somewhere these are the reasons why in this direction the photo from under bakhmut is so hot, those that are published on social networks are very similar to the images of the first world war very often, uh, commentators say that bactor now looks very much like verdun, where one of the biggest battles took place during the first world war in 19816, the village expert mykhailo herself says that the russians, where they use tactics, had groups for bakhmut, that these small groups go against our military, and we had them in groups. they are simply trying to overwhelm the front so that later on these groups, which of our soldiers do you kill there on the front in the east so that in this

situation other people would go. this is what this front line looks like now and how the russians are using this tactic of small groups. is this corresponds to the reality of what mykhailo himself says, well, first of all, it really reminds me of the first world war, it is such a tough positional trench warfare in extremely difficult weather, climate, landscape conditions, because very often it the war is in the fields of rare landings, and i especially want to note the heroism of the ukrainian infantryman who, being in such difficult conditions, continues to hold the front steadfastly, this is actually something that will definitely go down in the history of ukraine as well, one of the key pages of this entire war, the battle for bakhmut i am convinced of this, ah, regarding what you will show about tactics, well, again, what

you wrote is called battle reconnaissance, that is, when some group of infantry is sent, which calls fire on itself, and in this way, the enemy sees where our firing positions are located, and then the artillery starts working there or the assault groups are already moving. let’s say this is more training. and this first wave is actually suicide bombers, whose role is to die, but by calling fire on themselves, in essence, where to mask our positions, that is, it is no different at all from tactics that were used by the red army in world war ii, then they were penalty squads, penalty battalions, which were used for exactly this purpose. now, it is mainly used for this purpose. mobilized prisoners, whom they send all of them in such a senseless frontal attack, which ends with almost all of them being killed, and then

they are already the next waves, they are already trying to act, well, let's say this more professionally. if such a word can be lived in such in the context of a-a, that is, yes. well, if someone thinks that it is. well, if it looks like that there are 500 people performing there at the same time, running across the field and at machine guns. they are trying to get through some kind of landing er and come closer to the position, they are discovered, they start suppressing them with fire, and they die, and then after some time, the artillery barrage starts there, and the next group comes in. that is, it looks something like this, that is, all this mainly takes place at night, and the main combat operations are now at night . firstly because, in principle, the daylight hours are very short. and secondly, well, all these attempts

take place under the cover of darkness, let's say basically. that's why it was even more exhausting, that is, it's really like that. well, it's a special situation because after all, a war in the summer and a war in the winter are very different, including in connection with the length of the light channel, andriy yarmak, the head of the office of the president of ukraine, wrote on his page in a telegram that the russian occupiers first of all send recruits to the pvk to fight in the podmak under bachmut wagner, these are the convicts who go without body armor and stories, their meat is taken to the position without weapons, then the so-called camels bring these weapons even before the order to run forward, then they get a machine gun without gunmen and cashiers raid our the positions of this horde. well, this is the method of the horde when a crowd of people tries to storm the positions of the ukrainian military. do you have a feeling

that sooner or later this horde will end up with those people who are trying to storm our positions? is this going on endlessly, and this endless positional struggle and the battle of the russians for bakhmut continues and will continue well, they will definitely end at some point because we have no other option, we have, we have to finish them. i see, but it’s true, there are quite a few of them, that is, it’s not the majority of them. there are some soldiers there, basically, it’s a similar public, but they have an understanding that they actually use them for this, that is, they don’t expect that these prisoners will be there for a long time. will live it there in the conditions of the intensity that are there now, well, it’s two weeks at most, and it’s

probably still lucky for them. if you lived it for a couple of weeks, in fact, before the first assault , that is, they don’t bother much about it, that is, they are in principles took it as absolutely cannon fodder and i don't think that anyone there is very worried that any of these people are there. and in general, this tactic is actually used, but i say once again that you don't need to think about what is there, only what kind of people are there, well, if there is a different audience and uh, that is, it is also it is necessary to understand that in general it is obvious that different methods are used to drive away these waves. assault targets are treason and it is unambiguous. that is , they are shot for any attempt there. to reveal the reluctance of the goal in the attack uh, there are different methods, including the fact that they can,

for example, not feed them so that they are hungry and tell them to go get food in battle it was during the second world war and the penal battalions were perhaps even harsher in some respects. andrii, please tell me what equipment or what you lack there now, what can we all help, because i saw on your page a call to ukrainians to help -e funds to buy a car that quite often comes under fire and burns on the front line , you can contact ukrainians through our tv channel and explain what is necessary, how we can all help you together, dear society, go to facebook andrii illenko, write in ukrainian letters eh subscribe and see my posts there, i constantly post them there when we have

any need eh or do we need cars that regularly come under fire this applies specifically to sniper rifles, this applies to other things. drones are very important , especially triples with a significant vision, because now in the conditions of the long night, it is very important. madness, censorship on facebook has reached some unprecedented limits, because i just don't post. they are already there in two days, three of their posts , and just those posts where we collected funds for the aid of the battalion, that is, i think that some russians are working. moreover, i see that it is not only well, that’s it, in general, there are ukrainian bloggers who are currently covering the war or collecting some resources to help the army, there is a massive wave of bans, e.e. efforts

to post, and so on. that is, i don’t know what is happening there on facebook, well, it’s simple madness eh well , anyway, please go to my facebook , subscribe to my telegram channel too andrii illienko, there is less censorship there, so in principle there are more opportunities in terms of information and thus if each person has the opportunity or at least something if you help, we will be very grateful, because yes, we provide for ourselves, the state definitely provides, we ourselves find opportunities to buy a lot of things with our own funds, but the intensity of the war is such that, well, we constantly need renewal, renewal , because we need to maintain combat capability, and very often this requires large resources therefore, we will be grateful for any help, friends, now we will show andrii illenko's post on the screen, on his facebook page, you can go to this post and help andrii illenko and his brothers and sisters raise funds to see cars quite often come under fire and

burn, and the freedom battalion of the national guard needs help. you can go to its page and find all the details for replenishing the account and help the freedom fighters and ukrainian soldiers who are now fighting for bakhmut with funds and in order to buy a car at the end of our conversation mr. andrii, i would like to ask how you predict the further development of events on the eastern front, and what can change the situation on the eastern front, that is, when the russians will flee from of the city of bakhmut and not to attack this city. well, it will be obvious that many weeks of intense fighting are 100%, there will not be any quick solution here, because a lot of forces from both sides have been drawn here. let's play because actually bakhmut held on all this time and there was

an opportunity to hide a large, large russian group here and thus gave the opportunity to attack kharkiv oblast, then kherson oblast, and i think that soon it will be donbas' turn for the ukrainian offensive. for this is the general staff, which will make the appropriate decisions. i am convinced that they are timely and adequate. thank you, mr. andriy, and thank you for tuning in to our broadcast . we will be waiting for the best from you, well , new news, sorry for the tautology, but new messages. and we will support the freedom battalion with funds . please join us for this, friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks on youtube and facebook for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook please like this video

so that it can be seen by more viewers. and join our sponsor club under this video on youtube. there is a sponsor button. you can go to this sponsorship resource and choose a sponsorship package that is acceptable to you and help us. to develop our youtube channel well, we will continue to have igor laping on the air, he is an officer of the people's armed forces of ukraine, a deputy of the eighth convocation of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, igor, the glory of ukraine, i am glad to see you on the air hello hello so let's start our conversation with today's information, which was very noisy and made a lot of noise, this is information from the european commission about the fact that the derblain foundation was uh, the president of the commission estimated the losses of ukraine in the war with russia one hundred thousand

soldiers from 1 uh, it was about the number of dead , then the european commission clarified this information and said that it was about the dead and wounded. well, in a post on twitter, uh, ursula von derleian gave a figure of 20 in more than 20,000 civilians , the spokesperson of the president of ukraine sergey nikiforov says that it is not yet time to talk about the losses of the ukrainian side, well, accordingly, there are a lot of different speculations on this topic, the russians are talking about the fact that we lost a lot of military men, e.e. mili, general mili is talking about exactly that, after losing 100,000 for a few weeks therefore, the statement was in what way according to you can avoid such speculations regarding the losses of the ukrainian army and when according to you the ukrainian authorities will be able to talk about the losses from the ukrainian side, well, look first

about the number that they named the hutsula fund means that you want to pay attention first of all to 100,000 soldiers, and therefore, if you take the rules of the theory of war, then for 100,000 dead , there would always be at least 300,000 wounded somewhere. that we lost 100 brigades. you know, if we lost up to 100 brigades, then how many should we have if there are more than a million people in the armed forces today? of course, this number does not correspond to reality, the danger of such a number is to a completely different well, the first statement that was formulated is 100,000 military and 20,000 civilians. so, the thesis of the russian federation is that they are destroying military facilities, that they are fighting against the armed forces of ukraine, and not against the

civilian population. directly in the spirit on russian television channels and all situations are another danger, listen , before the war, about half a million people lived in mariupol, so she wants to say that in the entire territory of ukraine, including mariupol, there is bucha there are others there, irpin, there are kupyanski and so on that only 20,000 died. that is, this cannot be true even against the background of those statements that 11,000 stolen children have been officially confirmed from ukraine, this is what has been officially confirmed, and many other numbers are unofficial. therefore these figures are some kind of abracadabra, and it is quite difficult to comment on this processing of the gift. the question is why we do not report our losses, you know, one day it will happen and our society will simply be afi

. sorry for the slang from that number of the victims that we laid on the altar of freedom and independence. so these will be colossal numbers, i can only analyze them from some sources, in particular, even taking into account my unit and the approximate losses from the number of people in the unit for a certain number of combat operations there , months and so on. therefore, these will not be the numbers at all what do we have here? and some people may be trying to point out that ukraine lost 9,000 , but russia has almost 100,000. this is panic and it is right that we will find out and we will know how many people died as a result of the failure to detonate the antonov bridge, how many people died as a result of the failure to detonate the chongar mine clearance, how many people died in mariupol

as a result of all actions or inaction, how many people died as a result of the inaction of the relevant structures that should make bookmarks of weapons for the partisan movement in the occupied territory, we will just believe me, the society will find out and it will be in shock, but for today, we have the main principle, we we must win we must end this victorious war so as not to leave it as a legacy to our grandchildren, because our children have already inherited this war. this is the main question . it seems to me that we are doing the right thing so far, that we are not declassifying this information, the question of the commentators of the predictors of missile strikes, that's all, well, this is arrestovych of the brain, and i don't want to comment on him. meanwhile, ursula funderleen

said that the european commission will support the creation of an international tribunal under the guidance of the un to bring all the guilty to justice, she added that russia should pay for its terrible crimes, in particular for its aggression against an independent country . they are talking about russia's responsibility for the crimes that are currently being committed on the territory of our state, according to you, how long should it take to talk about this and launch a real mechanism of an international tribunal that would it is impossible in the future victims of russian aggression, because every day it takes away from us the best fighters in the south east and the hall on other fronts, every day our country is destroyed every

day . of the tribunal - this is not yet the tribunal itself and the question of when it will happen. well, let's do it. i don't. i don't know historically when the nuremberg tribunal was created . i think that this will be connected with the collapse of the empire with the absence of the threat of the collapse of the empire and when all this happens, then there will be an opportunity for such tribunals to be not only, you know , create a tribunal for the sake of a tribunal or create a tribunal for the purpose of convicting russian war criminals and so on , all the issues of ukrainian society will be satisfied in this situation