aesthetically, ukrainian women play a huge role today during the war, and tomorrow they will play an extremely important role in the reconstruction of ukraine. that is why our assembly decided to recognize the extraordinary woman of the deputy prime minister for european theoretical integration, olga stefanishyna, by honoring her with the woman for peace award and safety in ourselves olga, we honor all women of ukraine for their resilience and determination in our recent history, there has never been a greater personal and collective responsibility, and the stakes have never been so high high nato member countries have demonstrated extraordinary unity in support of ukraine and we can all

be proud of this, as well as our assembly , the nato parliamentary assembly and its members representing 30 parliaments of the participating countries stand steadfastly by ukraine and from the very first day we helped to mobilize the necessary support we constantly condemned the illegitimate and illegal attempts of russia to annex the territory of the immune, and we do not recognize these annexations, our chairman jeri konon, who is leaving his post, clearly stated this in his address at the first parliamentary summit of the crimean platform of zagreb. last month, we created a special e-aid fund in the verkhovna rada to strengthen democracy in ukraine now and in the future and in the future, and we

will help ukraine achieve the goals it has set for itself and become a full member of the euro-atlantic community, we have repeatedly reaffirmed their united support in particular at the recent session in madrid and i am doing everything i can as president of the nato parliamentary assembly to continue and strengthen our unwavering support of ukraine today, when we celebrate the 31st anniversary of the referendum on the independence of ukraine, i want to convey the following words to you: you are fighting for your identity, for your sovereignty, for your future , for your children, but you are also fighting for our common values, the values ​​on which

our societies are built, you are fighting for human rights for freedom for democracy for freedom your struggle is just and that is why ukraine will win and that is why we will stand together with ukraine until it wins and according to the words of the great poet of ukraine taras shevchenko to fight and you will fight god helps you for you the truth is for you glory and it is holy thank you very much for your attention glory to ukraine thank you very much mr. president president of the nato parliamentary assembly thank you very much for your constant support concludes optimism enthusiasm for our future

victory on your part if i can ask you if there will be the same support for ukraine among nato, you said that you will be with us and victory is the same. but do you really think that all nato countries will support ukraine until victory itself? something will change, so we will do everything and do everything possible to help you, as i said, we have heard about the so -called energy fatigue of ukraine, of course there are voices in some countries complaining about

inflation and high energy prices other things, but democracy and freedom are much more important and the struggle of ukraine - this is our joint struggle for democracy , for freedom, for our common values, why do i promise you that we parliamentarians, who are actually the voice of our people, will do everything possible to to ensure that this support is permanent so that nato remains united on this issue because this is the most important issue in the world today and we cannot back down er thank you very much mr. president thank you very much for all you do madam er mailam president

of the nato parliamentary assembly, please congratulate thank you, madame jules garrio, the children were with us and spoke about the role of nato. well, i have to say that the role of the western allies, their support, turned out to be absolutely key for ukraine starting from february 24. using only the message of the media to fall into enthusiasm about the fact that the ukrainian army is rearming at an extremely fast pace and sometimes when i read i have time to read the headlines of the newspaper i have the impression that tomorrow we will leave on abrams tanks somewhere around kursk or belgorod region, the reality is of course somewhat different, first of all, because the equipment used by the ukrainian

army continues to be post-soviet, but at the same time, the huge amount of weapons that continues to come to the ukrainian army especially it started around the middle of the summer definitely changed the character of the battle eh hmm in many directions i remember the period of may eh august eh of this year when the enemy in artillery was absolutely impressive for your understanding the ukrainian army in the period for about three summer months had the opportunity to fire about five to a maximum of six thousand artillery shots per day, while the russians fired from 50 to 60,000, that is, they had a tenfold advantage when when for me it was not you know, in such an engaging period, the first thing that happened was that it seemed like a fairly quiet front

. it was the south then, and the front was located about 15 km from the city of kryvyi rih. the entire kherson region was occupied behind it with minor incidents, and the city succumbed to its surroundings. it was subjected to constant artillery attacks, and i remember i am going on my first combat tour. when the commander of the battalion to which i was assigned at that time promised me, he told me that we would now go on such a small walk around there, those especially they are straining, well, put on a fairy tale with a bulletproof vest, we will leave now . it was only later, when all this was over, that i realized that we had left in the so-called gray zone. opposite us at that time were the units of the so-called dpr crimean brigade and buryats, which were still there at the time . later it was the paratroopers brigade was almost completely destroyed, but it took four long months for this, and when we were in this gray zone, our mortars had to work on the

positions of the so-called dpr, because almost everything was over, we already started to turn our vehicles we left something further there, about 300-400 m from this event, i heard a sound that i will probably remember for the rest of my life, it was such a whistle , as it turned out later, it was the whistle of the arrival of an 80 e-e two-millimeter russian mortar when he whistles, you have about 3-4 seconds to fall somewhere and when the commander gave the command, everyone to land, uh , we got into who where? you know, such explosions began at first you don't understand it, it's a story, it reaches you, so it came to me around the evening, when it really covered me, er. we ran very fast for 300-400 m

. in the evening a-a next time when a similar story happened you already perceive something differently we were just on the outskirts of lysychansk and we were driving along the road that connects bakhmut and novodruzhesk e-e the mine where our unit was located then this road it is located on a little bit the siverskyi donets river flows in the highlands below, behind which severodonetsk is located, on this side is lysychansk, this route was already under the fire control of russian artillery, but we did not understand this, we did not know this, and the firing range of a 120-mm mortar is approximately 7 km e makes up and they had a good shot that the armored personnel carrier that was driving in front of us hit them directly, they were hit by artillery emplacements and were hit by mines, and both sets exploded there. and when it all started

explode, our e-e driver is facing us somewhere right in front of our e-car 60 meters away, such a huge e-e explosion goes up, the ground starts to fly and our e-e driver was so surprised that he just stopped, he screamed. that's how the car was it's people, er, and those seconds , er, when you see that it doesn't reach, but explodes the device directly in front of you, it's very difficult to understand and explain if they enter in this situation, er, and then everyone started beating this driver hit on the head with whatever was at hand shoulders on the back because a person needs to be brought out of a state of shock, otherwise, words do not reach a person, and about seven seconds later, we left. i remember that we left, we reached the position where

ours were already at their place the day before there was an air raid then, unfortunately , the air defense system was not covered reliably and they had the opportunity to drop 500 kg aerial bombs, so you can imagine there 500 kg bomb leaves a hole in the ground with a depth of approximately five meters and a radius of action well somewhere well yes, a radius with a diameter of 15 meters to be exact probably that is the story is long enough and the most important thing is the most important thing is not to ask one question, you know that one question is never asked at the front what are your plans for tomorrow because you can get it for this it is very insulting to people no one makes plans for tomorrow everyone lives one with today, what will happen tomorrow, you will be told about it tomorrow i am happy to invite to this stage oleksiy danilov

, secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine, a person who is one i congratulate you as one of the key speakers for ukraine and for the world of war in to ukraine, so yes and i invite to this stage without a doubt ms. olena kondratyuk, she is the speaker of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, i ask you and arseniy petrovich yatsenyuk , the head of the kyiv security forum. so , oleksiy, let's start with you, then with your permission, you will be our first speaker on this panel today, you comment a lot not only military events, but the story is connected with the russian world, and you already have visas, let's call it that, from that side who constantly comment. do you have a favorite

visavi from that side? i will use the words you like, who gives you the greatest drive in these discussions? well, i would not like to talk about them at all, because they are not worth our time. i would like to say something completely different today, using the opportunity to chat today on this forum. as far as i understand from the name of the forms , we are talking about victory. everything is for victory. i would like you and i to be aware that everyone has their own vision of victory and until such time as we do not have a single vision of victory in the entire war together with our partners about partners separately , but it will be extremely, extremely difficult for us to solve this issue in this issue together. we must always put a full stop because any compromises will win

, this is just the wind washing away the garlic from the next problems that may await our country, that's why when we talk about victory is the return of all our institutions of the state on the border, which were recognized on the first of december, 30 years have passed since that time. yes , today is precisely when we should remember it before that time . well, what kind of victory can’t there be? us to some kind of compromises with people who kill our children, and who committed such atrocities here, and i generally believe that this is not the offspring. i generally believed that we should not talk about it and we should not be scared, there will be a nuclear war, something else will happen, look at our state our country, our people paid

a huge price for the freedom that we hold on our shoulders to this day, not only for ourselves, for the nato countries that are on the border with us, for the whole of europe, and we showed the whole world that there is no need to be afraid of those 30 years and taps 20 and the apartment phase scared the world that they are so powerful they must be reckoned with they just need to be destroyed so that they cease to exist as a country within those limits how do you not exist why because today russia is one of the few countries that has colonies on its territory, which destroyed a huge number of peoples, languages, cultures, traditions, they are just barbarians . and when you say that these barbarians should sit down at the same table and talk about something with them, i generally think that it will be unworthy of our people.

the first thing i would like to emphasize today in the background is the second thing. i would like to say something about our partners, unfortunately, the phrase partners partners partners, we always hear the phrase allies. i want to remind you that at one time when there was the second world war, it was the allies who united they called each other allies, but they were different, but there was one goal of destroying fascist germany, which at that time came out with the thesis that because certain peoples should not exist, there should be the destruction of entire countries, and they wanted to be like russia they are the same, i generally consider putin and hitler to be seance twins. how many was born a little later, but these are similar people, look at the person who makes the decision that it is necessary to bomb the civilian population,

to mock him, that is, to kill children who are not slow in anything , and this is not one, there are hundreds of children who died in this war only because someone wanted something there in the kremlin, er, to have some advantage over you , why are we different, we have nothing to do with you, you makovia, what was in your territory, you are thieves who constantly stole something, your history you are constantly demanding something. and you are not at all unworthy of anyone in the world communicating with you at all, and this worries us a lot, especially lately. will leave our territories and pay all the compensations that we have to fairly calculate to date and eventually get rid of nuclear weapons because by the time nuclear

weapons are on the territory of the russian federation they they will constantly squirm and it won't matter our some other country they are a strategy that was chosen quite a long time ago regarding the fact that russia is, let's say, such an island, it's either water or oppressed peoples well, it's definitely not pleasant for us, let's say so, i'm sorry, i can took a lot of time well, i wanted to burn out, especially today on your forum thank you thank you we will return to the questions now i want to give the floor to the vice-speaker of the verkhovna rada of ukraine mrs. olena kondratyuk eh, we are glad to see you how much are you do you evaluate today the parliamentary dimension of cooperation with the parliaments of partner countries and whether everywhere we have not only words of support but also concrete facts of our help and support to our state thank you thank you mr. taras dear colleagues,

first of all, i am glad to see everyone too and i would like to thank you, the organizers, arseniya petrovych for this opportunity to gather here, of course, thanks to our defenders and all the people who every day make our lives possible and gather right here we recently also had a small forum here, the women's women 's ukrainian congress. i know what it's like to organize at a time like this, during blackouts and during the constant aggression and shelling of our cities and the russian federation by the country and terrorists, and when we talk about the verkhovna rada, we're just talking today, i will not just speak my expert opinions , but i will rather speak in accordance with my current official powers, which i have from the speaker of the ukrainian parliament. and i wanted to start with this, which really 31 years ago to the all-ukrainian referendum, the

question of the territorial integrity of ukraine was absolutely put to the ukrainian people who had been expelled from the war. i actually . i read this bulletin when it was written simply that we confirm the act of proclamation of independence of ukraine, which was proclaimed by the verkhovna rada of ukraine, you know, for whatever it was, if they did not relate to the ukrainian parliament, did not personify it as ukrainian parliament then and now after the full-scale invasion, i definitely want to say played a key role. i remember very well february 24, 6:40 a.m. when mr. oleksiy brought a flash drive and handed it to me. president about the introduction of martial law, we all gathered and for us the

main thing was for the deputy corps for the parliament - it was to preserve the institution, i.e. the institutionality of the state authorities, the legitimacy of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, because it was to this institution that the same as to of the president of ukraine that was sent to the government was incredible. well, you know the pressure and expectations from the russian federation that everyone will not gather, they will move somewhere, not only that, they thought that there would be an evacuation, they would flee and so on. we are gathering as we have the opportunity to gather we have decided for ourselves really key issues that concern this, probably for the first time in the history of the ukrainian parliament, too - this is parliamentary diplomacy because our political statements on behalf of of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, and after all, the parliament is a representative body and we act on behalf of the people of

ukraine, all the statements made by the parliament of ukraine are political, it addresses all the state and parliaments of different countries with, i would say so, key demands, first of all, we had to to talk about countering russian aggression in the form of, well, such forms, for example, not only condemning russian aggression, but recognizing the confederation of the country as a terrorist on april 14 is fast enough, as far as i am concerned, legally formalized what a terrorist country is. that is, we do not have a clear definition of the russian federation as a terrorist country. by the way, in international practice, in fact, there is no definition of what a terrorist state is, and there is no such thing. there is only a sponsor of terrorism. that well, in fact, we are also tangential to this, that after starting such a colossal job,

visiting all the parliaments, constant communications, and so on. now, few countries and parliaments have been recognized as terrorists, at least for at the political level, but these are five parliaments, but we have made progress in that the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe has now recognized the russian federation as a country and a terrorist. my work, too. i absolutely agree with what mr. oleksiy said, what do you know for us? frankly speaking, well, it's just so subjective, now here's a discussion that can be for me, for example, there is now the deficit is that we still haven't named this war by its name, that is, the name of our war in which we are now the russian ukrainian war, is it an existential war, is it realistic, there are a lot of definitions of concepts, but if we even in

such elementary things when we say about substantive discussions and what should we call these wars, in one word, the war of liberation, that is, there are many, many meanings, and everyone can now say for himself that this is his war, because he stands, well, like cuba, no matter what mission he occupies he did not have a profession, he does it anyway and is bringing this victory closer to completion, but you know a lot of such a motley crew. when we say that we are talking about interaction with the parliaments of others, now for us there is another key concept - the creation of an international tribunal, this is the second parallel big the work is a colossal work that is going on because we say that there is an international criminal court of gases, it has already started to work, it has already started to work, and thank god that work has gone on there, but the creation of an international tribunal is this is exactly the main function of the security concept and the formation of the security architecture, because

without it there is no real justice and justice in this matter, the punishment of real guilty war criminals is absolutely absolutely for us a key role. role in the creation of the tribunal is the punishment of the scum of the deputies of the russian federation at the level of the state duma and the council of the federation who voted for the annexation of crimea and the introduction of troops into ukraine for declaring that the so-called lpr, dpr, and the fourth is because they are thinking of annexing our territories, the new zaporizhia , kherson, and so on. we have the opportunity to press the button there, many of us went and defended from our parliaments to defend

ukraine . these agents and so on, i think that we will complete this process, and by the way, we also now have a strategy of how we should now leave this status of people's deputy, those who helped there, who fled, who is not, and so on, we are working on it now, i don't want to, i just think that we will most likely cope with the challenges for the parliament by the end of the year. well, if we take such strategically important points into account , then of course there will be two more important lines of work for the parliament - this is, of course , the approximation of our membership to the european union and the approach of our membership to nato are colossal two works that need to be carried out, not only

that . more persistently we don't have time to talk about classic diplomacy we have to act very quickly very persistently and uh i actually like this rhythm such a rhythm when we fit into the parliament and you know what i also noticed when we we talk there, i have well, i had a lot of meetings with speakers, speakers, and even prime ministers and presidents. and when do you start to have such enthusiasm in them? and here's how we heard reports today, such enthusiasm that they admire the ukrainian people and so on, and then it's actually determined for them what you know this, not only are you changing, not only is your society changing, you are changing our societies. that is, it seems to me a colossal and colossal difference and we must remember about strategic security in the world that our society

when it consolidates, it changes, it passes, well, it pays a big price, but all societies are national. and i repeat once again that parliaments are a reflection of these societies, they also change, and it is nice to state . it is a secret that you had a very frank relationship with the merkel angel at one time. what kind of evolution will take place today? known for his infamous formula in his pants, by the way, he sent a letter of congratulations to the kyiv security forum and roling l. merkel, in your opinion , they have already passed the stage of rethinking the mistakes that they exist and evaluating the actions of russia, whether they will avoid it. i am convinced that

all countries have passed- members of the european union, i will even say here, i will even write down hungary here because i want to divide hungary, which is the hungarian people and hungary as today's government of orbán. we will get to it, i think everyone has come to reconsider everyone came to understand that very big mistakes were made, er, i can cite many facts, but one of the facts is that yesterday germany