from er buying oil and er it also affects er russian exports and by the way also such an interesting thing very recently on china which er is considered well if not an ally then ukraine is a friendly enough country for russia they said that if ah, tankers with russian oil will not be insured - they will be insured only by russian companies like this. and uh, this situation. maybe if sanctions are introduced, the chinese will not accept such tankers , that is, ours is actually a blow to the russian economy. it can be felt. well me too if i me i also heard that turkey also requires these tankers to be insured, otherwise they won't accept them, er,

er , thank you. limiting oil prices on the main russian economic trump card, in principle, the country calls it a little disparagingly a gas station, a country a gas station, and so on. we will see how this will actually affect the russian in them today until things, uh, the record went up a lot, a euro record, that's how the ruble is falling, this is a little bit of nice information for ukrainians, because, well, ukrainians. to be honest, it's nice when in moscow, too, at least a little, but they suffer because of course. unfortunately, in chronic stress, it's already the ninth a month, and by the way, it affects our health, er roberts, such a world-renowned polish biologist, a professor at stepov university, a neurobiologist who studies human behavior and physiology, and actually

he gave a lecture a few months ago for ukrainian psychologists, however, how chronic stress is reflected in our physiology, what happens to our body, eh. and this is so to say, about the chemistry of our body, about the physics of our body, about how hormones work, about how brain neurons work under certain conditions, uh, and there are several several owners of theses, what happens in chronic stress, now we will talk about it with olena shershneva, a psychologist and psychotherapist, what should we do, how should we note, first of all, that this is already chronic stress for us, according to what signs, and what should we do with this is to be done ms. olena good morning to you good morning are you familiar with this lecture mr. roberta sapolsky yes i am familiar and i have good news you that chronic stress is not a sentence but chronic stress is a little better than sudden stress than

momentary stress because when we in chronic stress , we have already adapted a little to what is happening, and our condition on february 24 and probably the first half of march is a much more severe condition than now , even from a physiological point of view, primarily from a physiological point of view, but you correctly said about hormones the fact that the hormonal background is completely disturbed is off the scale from the first adrenaline, then on the contrary, we have such a decline in strength it's all hormones playing with us now hormones are already starting to stabilize a little, as well as our emotional state because our body adapts to stress and this is our superpower that we can adapt and little by little begin to live, learn to live even under such conditions, ms. olena, but how can we note that in our country, not all people are psychologists, and this is also a culture that has not firmly entered into the culture of ukrainians, this is the first

second well, the time is such that here everyone thinks how to survive uh and already later when he is physically safe there, dad. he then thinks what is happening to his brains, what does chronic stress mean, i don't know in practical terms. yes, i see some, now we will try to restore the connection so that it is not only visible to mrs. olena, it is disturbing what roberta polish, this scientist says, says that the hippocampus, which is responsible for learning processes and memorizing, is decreasing, so if you and i see that we remember worse some things that it seems as if we are as stupid as he is, so he is dumber, that is in principle normal. you just need to detach yourself from yourself and not force yourself to learn. when it does not climb, the amygdala

in the brain also increases, which is responsible for fear and anxiety reactions, that is, fear and anxiety become more, sometimes they even they don't have any reason, so it seems that everything is normal , but we start to worry, and it comes back . for example, memory deteriorates not because we have become somehow stupider, it's just that, well, the head does not contain other information because we are stressed and, besides, it starts because the amygdala increases, such anxiety begins. sometimes it has no reason. it begins to increase and we are just getting scared, although it seems that everything around us is okay, there is no air alarm, nothing is exploding, but all the same, we are afraid of everything that is happening to our body and our psyche, listen to the symptoms. and by the way, what

you voiced this is not the worst thing that can happen because the physiology can react more sharply and then you have to think about depression too if a sharp weight loss begins, if a person begins chronic insomnia, again a change in appetite and physiological changes, then he may be depressed or for example, she may be developing post-traumatic stress disorder, therefore, again, it is impossible to make a diagnosis on your own, but listen to yourself and if there are alarm bells , then you should also go to a specialist and solve this issue. i say that you need to go to a psychologist or a psychotherapist when there is discomfort, when something is bad , something does not suit you. when everything is normal, normal sleep, normal appetite, more or less normal, stable mood, then actually there will be no need to be paranoid and worry, what to do when , for example, such unfounded anxiety begins it's just scary. or before going to bed, it often happens to me that i go to bed as if there is nothing so terrible. well, i read the news a little before

preparing for the next day. the next broadcast and everything, as if she is tired and sleep should come, but it does not come, and some stupid thoughts begin to go around in circles, you are signaling something to us, he is informing us about something, and if you are scared at a certain moment, then it means something to you do you need to take any security measures or have you not done so and subconsciously you feel that you have not completed the work, that you need to protect yourself or take some other actions? we often conclude that the signal was as follows: spend more time with your loved ones, that is, fear can carry different messages to us, the main one is to decipher them, listen to yourself, what exactly am i afraid of, sometimes fear appears after some traumatic event, for example, you heard alarm signals, it traumatized

you , and then the trigger is like this. something starts there, you heard it somewhere, it seems to you that the signals scare you again, then this is a separate topic for working through the trauma, one way or another, it is not just that, it prompts us to take certain actions and it is already a task let everyone understand what exactly his fear prompts him to do, and what to do. what are your simplest tips? well, if there is no depression, you don’t need to go to a psychologist, but the simplest ones are really the ones with which a person can cope with his chemistry , physics, nerves, and everything else very well because in order to normalize the chemical processes in the body, this is a full-fledged sleep, it is the basis of everything and psychological health, first of all, a healthy sleep, normal nutrition, a normal rest regime, because now people often dive into work, thinking that it will save from stress, in fact,

it can only exacerbate stress, because we need a balance of tension and relaxation, but by keeping this balance, we make a great contribution, we are all already in a stable state, and again, listen to your fears, listen to your anxieties, they are telling us about something they signal if there is discomfort somewhere, it means that the body subconsciously draws our attention there and says listen, something is happening here, work on it, do the next thing, protect yourself, don't ignore the russians, there are statistics, what's the latest sometimes they began to buy antidepressants more often because the mobilization that was announced in them, which was supposedly already completed in their country, but still it is going on there secretly, it affected their sense of security, if we speak. and about the ukrainians, they said that they conducted a survey, the ukrainians said that they are happy people despite everything how can it be that we are living in the 9th month of the war started by the russians, our family and

friends are dying because the russians came here with the war and they buy more antidepressants because we are walking towards victory, this is not the way to victory cheers and supports, and they are on the way to defeat , in depression, understand, realize. and of course, this is a very oppressed nervous system. they will help, but you note what problems are more common now. people come and consult psychologists after february 24. have they changed in any way? there were inquiries only about the war, about what was happening in march, april, these were inquiries, well, 90% about whether to go or stay, that's just the number one topic, then, unfortunately, there were more inquiries

about the death of men and sons at the front and a lot of inquiries about fear, as i have already said for the lives of loved ones, anxiety, fear in general, again later we figure out what it is about, and fortunately, now there are more and more questions about relationships in the family, about everyday things, about children, and this is a signal for me that people are starting to come back little by little same adapt stop being in such total stress and go into the plateau stage and learn to live learn to live a normal life even under such abnormal conditions and how long will we have to work through any injuries that this full-scale invasion has caused us how much time hm will have to be spent on recovering mentally and psychologically in everyone has a different nervous system and some, unfortunately, will have ptsd and post-traumatic

stress disorder, some will not, some will have injuries, and some will cope with everything on their own, and this again, it is difficult to say how a person can go through the war and be on the front line and return mentally stable. and he can even be abroad and endure everything so acutely that he will develop pdsm, so everyone should listen to himself, and it will depend on him whether he will turn in time pay attention to certain symptoms or take care of yourself, you don't need to make up diagnoses where there are none, but you also don't need to ignore the signals that our wise body gives us, how to support it to support with some er-e soothing because now many ukrainians have rushed to find all kinds of possible means that will help to actually cope with this anxiety. are some vitamins better after all? what are your tips? i think that medication is the most extreme case and you have

to try on your own for as long as possible cope with the same stress and the same traumatic events why because there are, for example, antidepressants, they oh, they don't let us live through all this they won't let us live, they just dull our feelings and then we again we don't live it, we can't bear our experience, which we need from this situation, so it's better to work out everything with a psychologist without medication, but of course, if it's already such a case that you need a drug, then again go to a psychiatrist, a neurologist, or someone who can prescribe you this drug and none so don't buy it yourself because your girlfriend drinks because an acquaintance helped you. you can't do that. take care of your nervous system as well as your body. only on the recommendation of a doctor. besides,

try to do it with the help of psychological studies, uh, are some programs enough now, because not every person can afford to go to a psychologist, it’s still uh, well, this is the work of a psychologist and it costs money, and we understand that now many people are left without work or without a home, are there any possible volunteer programs that help people, especially those who were close to the front, over whom rockets flew, who saw with their own eyes how houses were being destroyed of the dead. what would be available to them and so that they could cope with the traumas they experienced and today there is a lot of free help offered by organizations and organizations offered by individuals and legal entities, for example, i also do volunteering, i have a 50/50 normal job and volunteer consultations and therapy, so i invite you to come to me. and to

contact many organizations on the internet, such as psychological ones, including those that do not give help , only if there was a desire, because very often a person does not i am ready to go to a psychologist and therefore she is looking for a lot of excuses that are expensive and not on time. and i still don’t know what else she will come up with. it’s shorter, but i don’t want to because each of ours can’t be equal. i don’t want to. if you ca n’t go to a psychologist, then figure out what if money stops you, then i will tell you right away that now there are many free offers of ms. olena. tell me, please. it is certain that foreign colleagues of ukrainian psychologists also give some advice. is it already the case that foreign psychologists actually turn to our specialists? by so that they could tell them how to work with people under stress and with people with psychological trauma, what to do with people who have seen a lot of blood in their lives

in a very short period of time uhu well, while we are using, in particular, israeli experience and western experience with trauma therapy, we are trauma therapy, but our specialists are already able not only as a theorist but also as a practitioner to advise western collectors because, unfortunately , so much time has had an effect that there are examples of both the ptsr and the ptsr course. and since those times, too, our psychologists have already practiced with displaced persons from luhansk and donetsk regions, with people who survived hostilities there, that is why we have so much experience, unfortunately , there is so much experience, but nevertheless, it is also possible even in such circumstances to extract something useful that will be useful to us later and there will also be

ukrainian ukrainian psychologists, then conduct trainings for a certain robert sapolsky, who is currently conducting trainings thank you mrs. elena elena shershnyova, psychologist, psychotherapist was and we talked a little about our mental health don't uh don't neglect it when you when something happens to you is not right here you are standing aggressive suddenly no one i want to shout this at the person who goes to cork that he is not going that way or she is not going there, i want to take her by the scruff of the neck, pull her on the jacket, it means that something, some kind of fatigue has already accumulated, or actually anxiety, or everything in a pile, it is accumulating, but it would be very good if you saw every citizen who is now close to us, every singing citizen, as first of all, as one of all my brothers and sisters are in the war with russia, all this is simple, we would be allowed to

do this. now it's this kindness , it's also a certain contribution to victory. i believe it too. well, it's very good. there was advice from a psychologist who was with us recently, that you need to get enough sleep, friends, that 's a guarantee of a good mood for you, and i'm a guarantee, actually. well, actually so clinical it has been proven that people who lack sleep increase their aggressiveness, this is purely due to chemistry , the balance in the body changes a little , the hormonal balance changes a little, and accordingly there are more hormones that cause aggression, irritability, and now a little what else are we going to talk about, let's talk about electricity blackouts and not about the psychological

side of how they affect business, because what losses do they cause, because when the russians hit our energy infrastructure from e-e, not even only on our psyche, but i could say everything about it on the 31st, maybe it’s the one who flew from belarus the other day, and because of that we had to announce the alarm, he finally fell, you know where he managed to fly to vladivostok, it’s a long way, he flew a little 10 kilometers, but the pilots and the plane so far they can't find it, they don't know if it fell somewhere or into the sea or something but they already caught yarosh's business card and it was floating there and that they didn't get into something it was made of high quality it was a big inflatable it's red and black and what's red and it was the blood of a muscovite and black then theirs future fate well somehow yes yes yes friends well and

one more fun and sad news at the same time elton john will give his last concert in london next year he is going to retire that's how he announced it will be at the blastenri festival so if you let's also quickly end the war by in 2023, we will all go to a concert at electron, because he will give the last one. but i think that he will come to a big holiday concert, i see, and the executive director of the european business association is in touch with us at derevyanko young lady, we congratulate you well, of course, dreams of going to elton john's concert, they warm us up but nevertheless, i understand that russia is trying to do this, they could not buy tickets for

that concert, it is hitting our energy infrastructure, you know, i think he will take this step well, in turn, we can issue free tickets to kobzon's concert here, too , it happens every day, literally non-stop , actually. tell us how all these power outages affect business. we see that there are generators near the shops working, but we we understand that there are large networks for whom these generators cannot simplify life as much as some small shops that turned out to be easier to experience this power outage well, first of all, i want to congratulate everyone and pay you a compliment, i listened in our studio and i like it what kind of mood do you have

? i understand that this is the only way to support yourself and, of course, the advice is to get enough sleep. it is also related to blackouts, because if there is no light, what should you do? take a blanket and sleep. but seriously, in for business, of course, the situation is quite difficult. hmm, this is understandable because we are all trying to somehow adapt to the new conditions. we understand that not everyone can do it and there are big losses in business . that hmm, many people lose millions of hryvnias, and some tens of millions, some hundreds of millions of hryvnias. no, this actually happens every month, if we talk about the current situation, the situation can be even more critical, i just don't have recent statistics who can tell you about exactly what kind of losses because

we are not doing it now because the situation changes on a daily basis and therefore we may simply be late with our statistical data but what i feel from the business i see from the business that well, generators really are but that no less, if there is no predictability of power outages, then of course it will affect retail and it will affect production, well, that is, production facilities, well, in fact, everyone. well, honestly, it affects everyone, so let's not pretend, you know, that everything well, if we understand that there is no other way and how to adapt to it because well, it does not depend on the government, it does not depend on business and it depends on the neighbors who will or will not bomb and here are these neighbors. that the business can gradually restore some of its operational processes although not

all are the same, we have repeatedly heard that some companies cannot even pick up corporate mail, but kudos to our electricians kudos to our local government representatives because uh, sometimes even now they don't turn off the electricity, which is also a big plus, that's why you know. well, it's difficult, in a word, it's difficult in business right now, but we're holding on, we're also optimistic about the future. various psychologists in order to support the immediate health of their employees in order to support the corporate spirit in order for people to understand that they have someone to lean on, do you understand that they have some the foundation is under our feet, so our members are trying their best to ensure that almost a thousand

companies are wiped out as much as possible in order to support their teams, and we will see from now on, because now planning for some kind of urgent perspective is difficult enough. i would say that it is generally given because often business has lived a day thank god the next thank god and so on . some calculations of the losses suffered by the companies as a result of those power outages that have already occurred, who suffers the most as well well, the bodies that suffer the most are those whose lights are turned off, well, objectively, is it turned off for all of them, i mean, er, one of the large networks of us said that one day of downtime of the network costs uah 10 million for the network, well, that is, it is one day. simply, if

we are talking about e-e production, well, production , they still try to switch to generators. they can, they try to switch to night shifts. but if it is not possible and will not be possible because the generators will not replace the full operation of power grids and some people said that if there is not even a potential sales market, then they can simply stop for the winter, well, it is not necessary for the state, it is not necessary for our people, of course, but that is not this is less of a ukrainian reality, we heard that arcelorbital stops some of its capacity, we heard that recently kovalska pointed out that they can stop, they can stop, but they can stop for a month and a half their operational processes, production processes, therefore, i think that the business will simply look at the situation, how critical it will be for them to have electricity in general, and how much they will not be able to cover this need for electricity with their generators, that is what i

hear from the business. options that will allow them to adapt to the situation they stock up on fuel they stock up on sterling and various other alternative sources that can give them more autonomy but again, i hope that this will solve the situation, but maybe not 100%. that's why we didn't make the calculations that you know now, that's why i wasn't going to give them. maybe later, in a few weeks, we'll be able to give some calculations because we asked the companies and how they feel. and now we're taking this information. but again after all, everything depends on how massive the next missile strikes will be, how much they will or will not be obvious that they should be well, because the mood of our neighbors does not change

accordingly, in business there is an understanding that victory will come, everyone is waiting for victory. and by the way, in business there are different opinions and expectations about this. some people think that it has been playing for a long time . it gives more , you know, optimistic, no longer expectations, then somehow there is light at the end of the tunnel. but then again, business also does not have a crystal ball, you know. he can't say what will happen, he just adjusts to different processes. let's say it, uh in korea, the war never officially ended, the road accident , however, it was not a reason for the southern part of korea to fold their hands and wait for the end of the war to be announced and they became a superpower, a super economy, this is also for sure for us, i agree and support more than that here simply

for business, it is not the end of the war that is important, but security is important, if the business will see that there is security in the country. what, for example, are there reliable pgus that 100% repel all money blows, then in principle, i think this will greatly affect the situation in that including the investment of our state here with this, if the state will move forward with reforms, which , i think, will progress thanks to our european aspirations, then again , this will also open the way to foreign investments, including the fact that we also see thanks to our new pro-product of the project, well, this is global business, our ukrainians, our territorial unit, when we communicate abroad with investors, with representatives of various sentinks, business, communities, we see that so far image

of ukraine, in addition to the fact that they understand that the armed forces are very strong, that the people are strong and determined, and so on , they still have such perceptions that there is a crisis in ukraine, there is corruption, there is a war, well, that is, there are many such negative connotations, that is why it is very important. it seems to me that when we are all abroad we act especially somewhere, it is desirable to speak very well about our country so that foreigners also have a normal impression of us, i.e. if we ourselves abroad pour mud on ourselves, no one will be able to respect us, no one will be able to come to us because they will think that we continue to be in a crisis and in constant turmoil, you understand, that's why it seems to me that we, as ukrainians, need to work in ukraine on the one hand in order to change our climate, but on the other hand, to think about what to say about ukraine for the border by reliable ambassadors in our country is in that