to the wind well, what could the patriotic public of belarus need us, fate exchange about moscow and the candidate, dear ones, successfully, this environment what is it saying that kolesniki, well, let us accept all of this, i say so, and what is the cord, let's hope that it is somehow health everything will be fine. i don't know. i have such and such a dream. you know , it's such a stupid absolute dream. you can share it , so that something would still happen somewhere at the very end. minsk to congratulate him there with flowers and that's it. this is the end of lukashenka's reign, and belarus would simply begin to exist as an independent,

truly state of the belarusian people. life always makes its own corrections, but somehow it will and i think that the victory of ukraine definitely opens up chances for the future, for the future, in fact, of belarus as an independent state and belarusian of the people as a political nation, thank you very much, mr. serhiy serhiy bulba, a public figure, the leader of the white legion, we talked a little about what is happening in belarus, er, now we will talk a little about what is happening in ukraine, er, what is happening in ukraine uh, with the judicial reform, because here even the ambassadors, jason , are already trying to somehow communicate to ukraine to the ukrainian authorities that it is necessary to do this

judicial reform, they are already writing flowers, ukraine, please do the judicial reform, don't play around with fire, these days it is determined whether ukraine will have the rule of law. in the next 25-30 years, whether our victory will not be wasted . money to rebuild sometimes we often hear that it is okay to rebuild, but in order to rebuild we will need to have something to rebuild with, and our partners are closely monitoring what is happening in our country and are waiting for what will be done the judicial reform will wait for it to be carried out . eight new members of the supreme council of justice will be appointed, which ensures that the judicial a-a branch of government, so that those people who in robes pronounce verdicts

, so that they er-er are worthy of being called judges er-er and not were the ones who make the decision , and it has some kind of benefit. by the way, absolutely. well, it's just that you understood, it's practically a thing. for example, just now, the security service of ukraine is there, er, there, er, this is the story of the judge, what is god now i will tell you that at the beginning it is large-scale invasion that he is very sorry that it happened like this and that russian troops did not occupy ukraine that they had to retreat ukrainian judge ukrainian judge and nothing can be done to him because he has judicial immunity and the verkhovna rada should deal with it justice and there are now five people that is, it is not valid and that's all and it's all blocked now that's how the judge is volodymyr kuksov from the commercial court of appeal and the suspicion seems to be from him but that's all and he

even he can even to escape from his country even you cannot restrict movement just now because the supreme council of justice needs a decision, here is a very simple example for you. of the judicial system in ukraine and one of the authors of this article, kateryna butko, who is also the head of the all-ukrainian association avtomaidan, we are now joined by ms. kateryna . kateryna and how many of us are such kuks who should be removed from this bench of judges, and what's more , they would have the opportunity, i think it's even difficult to imagine, because kuks in general, here, the story is even more valuable because he lives right in the suburbs of kyiv and he, his house

, in fact, there was one of the last unoccupied cities of the city, when the russian troops were stationed near kyiv, that is, he can see, i don’t know , a few kilometers from him, russian i still worried about the troops and waited for them when they passed he has already prepared a russian flag at his home, there is already some bread, it must have been from the washing machine, that is, the plaque did not reach him, but he was lucky because it is similar to the russian uh-uh, also the russian avata, the bombs did not actually hit his house. maybe he would have there was a different position then, but there is still a problem in the occupied territories, in the territories that were under occupation, that is, there are a lot of judges who have gone over to the side of the enemy, and

you can’t kill them, you can’t even release them now i.e. kuksov cannot be given permission to defend himself against some kind of preventive measure, which is related to the restriction of will, and those judges cannot be released either, and we are in such a stalemate that we urgently need the supreme council of justice, otherwise the judges are collaborators. here they are like the cook that the russians are waiting for. and they will sit and wait and receive for this even a bigger salary from our taxes, ms. kateryna, but the fact that the ambassadors of the g7 countries are already addressing us as they say, please carry out judicial reform, this is how bad it is already in our country, ah, look , actually, it is obvious to everyone that we need the supreme council of justice, including

many ambassadors who welcomed and supported the judicial reform and said that it is necessary, they demanded it plus the implementation of judicial reform and, in fact, in the composition of the supreme council of justice - this is one of these requirements that the candidate structures of the european union put to us, so we cannot generate them, in fact, the situation is such that now from the congress there are eight vacant positions of judges and there are 16 candidates among whom you need to choose these eight . that is, there are two people per seat and uh, and all that is needed is to go through the judges and choose these eight people, but we all understand that the course members and other judicial mafias are not you uh it is profitable to leave everything that is profitable and when you can do anything and there is no one to punish you and therefore there are several scenarios that we analyzed what are the possible uh in this situation,

for example, i will not recruit, but take two and then we will need to renegotiate a new competition then somewhere in another year we would find ourselves in such a situation it is now, therefore, it is extremely critical to implement it, but to elect a sufficient number of these eight members, no, for a year, for sure. it is not necessary to postpone it, as valery zaluzhny says, you cannot lose the strategic initiative, you must press on it. our enemy, as you can see, can also be in the robes of a judge. but we elected roman maselko and we were very happy about that. well, how are we? i say we because, well, everyone who had the opportunity to get involved in some way, we got involved as simply as people who can report to people, too. why that it is important to me. are there 16 applicants, two each for the vacant position ? are these people like

maselko ? that well, first of all, we, if there is no, we will say that it is difficult to be agents of change there, because it is a quota that is chosen by the judges and, accordingly, they choose only judges or retired judges. that is, in any case, they are representatives of the judiciary the system is not a human activist lawyer who chooses from the side of such people in general, according to the very structure of the judges of the cabinet, such cannot be, but there are also candidates for whom there are no questions, there are candidates for example a-a p bulgakov , for whom there are questions, including regarding his visits to russia, which is temporarily occupied crimea after the annexation and after the beginning of the war, that

's why, unfortunately, the situation is also difficult because the ethics committee conducted interviews with these candidates, but they are not broadcast. and that's why we don't know if we had questions for these candidates, we sent them to the ethics council or the candidates somehow did they explain denied it, we don't know, we can't, of course we'll select the ethical council, but we can't trust anyone for sure considering the fact that we haven't seen and don't know what answers these candidates gave and whether they simply manipulated , including international partners, that's why have they refuted all the statements? we cannot know , but yes, there are candidates about whom there were no questions, there are candidates about whom there were significant questions, so who else will be chosen, who will be chosen from among the judges? well, we'll see , and there should be a maximum number of 21

representative, the correct number is 21 vacant positions from judges, there are also eight presidents, he has an open quota, and the congress of protection must also elect two and one from scientists, that is, but the biggest problem right now is to fill these eight vacancies from judges because half of the members of the supreme council of justice must be judges or retired judges, otherwise if the president is poured in there, the verkhovna rada has already elected scientists, but they do not hire judges, but they fill these vacancies anyway, eh, without this congress of judges the higher council will not be valid because there will not be this half of the judiciary claude eh well, this is how a closed circle turns out, because the supreme council of justice is the role of appointing and dismissing

judges to monitor how they work they give permission to arrest and detain judges, and here the judges have to choose those who will ensure that they are clean on their hands if you are during iodine and this was a huge problem and that is why we, including the public, called for the judicial reform to provide for the existence of this exotic filter councils where the international experts include respected international experts who already do the first filtering and accordingly then the judges are chosen from among those already recommended by the ethical council unfortunately , given our realities we cannot uh there clearly follow the competition and the interview of the ethical council because they are closed and that's why we still have possible doubts because we don't see these interviews and we don't see the answers and explanations

given by the candidates, but they are really the most odious candidates about whom it was probably ah, isn’t it the most ah reservations we have during the analysis, they simply withdrew their candidacy on one of the last days and it is obvious that they essentially either guessed or knew for sure that they would not be recommended and above it's just that they themselves quietly leave this process, so the fact is that the ethical council worked with the fact that one of the most notorious ones, including the head of the council of judges, bohdan nonich, who, in fact, is now blocking the implementation of this because he has not yet been appointed, they withdrew their candidacy, i did not i will ask what will happen if it is not possible to carry out this reform to the end and renew the composition

of the supreme council of justice , because in principle we have seen for 30 years what is going on with it. who will be the controlling package in this higher council of justice, those people who are both competent and determined to change this system and change it so that it reigns in ukrainian courts, well, if themis, if allowed to say justice, then i can say what is wrong with them there is a lot of work waiting, because for the entire time, the ethics council, the high council of justice, did not function until the high qualification commission of judges, which is now also elected, has received a huge number of applications and vacant positions that must be filled by that is, it is probably not the next year or several years, these people will have a huge titanic

volume of work, because it is necessary to consider complaints, it is necessary to consider complaints against the judge of the scalaborants, to deal with them, it is necessary to consider and judges of the oask, because we cannot forget that this is also a part of this russian measure, which we actually have in the center of kyiv and near the nsdc, because now everyone is very happy about the searches in the churches of the moscow patriarchate. but in fact, the oask also made decisions and defended this is the moscow patriarchate and that's why it's necessary to deal with these judges, and it's a huge responsibility and a huge amount of work, but if everything succeeds , we can really hope that finally the judges who act are dishonest judges judges bribers judges, collaborators, they will be responsible. well, worthy

candidates for the position of judges will fight. this is a tree. andrii didn't ask. and what will happen if suddenly nothing succeeds , because i think it's important to explain to people who don't understand the supreme council of justice . they face judges, maybe there at some time when it comes to their own cases. yes, but if suddenly nothing succeeds, and then what is the light of ukraine, let's continue to live in the arbitrariness of the judges because very often, for example, they write to us, turn to our facebook page, they write that there is such and such a judge, she is acting in general, uh, full of what they call bespredel, but what to do with her. kill because there is no supreme council of justice and there will be even more questions like this, that is, in fact, unfortunately, considering that the request for justice is one of the first among the population of our country according to all the

polls for the last many, many years then well, it won't come true yet, because the judges will be able to do anything but punish and bear responsibility for it. they won't be responsible for it, and we'll live in such a judicial chaos. it is also necessary to mention that, as i have already said, the judicial reform is one of the parts of what we promised our partners for our candidacy for the european union, that is, therefore, it will put a cross on the essence. our integration plan of european integration plan, therefore, we now critically need judicial reform. unfortunately, if this does not happen, it will simply be postponed for several more years and we will live in the same way as we live now, when judges

can do anything. that is, we can relatively speaking win the war, but go back it's 2010, but the country is still broken, and we haven't received enough help for its reconstruction from our european partners. again, we promise something, and it's too high to be concerned about the fate of dishonest people . judges who actually live very well for themselves. thank you very much, mrs. kateryna kateryna butko . winter oleksandr slobozhan, executive director of the association of cities of ukraine, contact us mr. oleksandr good morning good afternoon mr. oleksandr i don't know before we will talk

about preparation and so on all generators i i would like to ask you about these points of inviolability, which at first sounded so beautiful , now people are starting to ironize a little bit by bit and say that they sometimes come to addresses where there should be a point of inviolability. in kyiv, for example, it was organized, here is a photo, and from that point of unbreakable words, you can not break your word and immediately you will be checked or may be placed in a detention center if you somehow did not behave like that there in fact, how far are they, what is stated, how far is it true, they say that there are already several thousand of them, but in fact, well, look, what is it for , well, first of all, we have to understand that this is in a certain

way an extreme measure, not taking into account the fact that we have repeatedly talked with you on the air, and the shelling continues, the destruction of the infrastructure of this critical infrastructure continues. yes, of course . to be in such a state overvoltage is the current state of our energy and heat system in general, the systems for water supply, heating and electricity supply to municipalities is a state of emergency. no country in europe, america , canada, etc., has any ready-made methodologies to

help us. a-a full volume of components, some components need to be produced for a long, long time, er, not only a question of money, not only a question . we all have to realize that this is an extreme measure so that the inhabitants of the country do not freeze and at least in a certain way receive some help in case of any deployment of such points, you gave an example there the isolator does not conclude that these points can be of two types. this is for the purpose of which they are being deployed, and also the state emergency service itself deployed two types of such points of inviolability

. they are stationary, which are located in the units of the state emergency service. that is, this the building directly eh where there is eh the necessary equipment of the premises and it is possible to provide electricity, heat, and others there with hot food, drinks, and temporary residents who need it. the second point is the tents. if we talk about stationary emergency services, there are 741 such points that the emergency services reported to 245 national police . -e offered to use her premises for such purposes. for example, you and i talked about this on the air, and in the summer we said that the best option could be educational institutions, and i will stop at this point. did you ask a question or that scope

deployed isn't the volume deployed a-a if something starts to deploy before debugging e full deployment of this system and full e-e hmm loading of this system and let's be frank e-e that according to visits by residents e-e they are not fully e-e loaded because thanks to our energy and utility workers, there is still that critical period when we sit there for a week without electricity, without water supply, without power supply. we have never had such a complete mess. yes, there are separate points, and here i am using um, on the air, i would like to pay attention it's people, colleagues, people, there is no

injustice in this regard, for someone to do this specifically. it is impossible to restore electricity and heat, the pumps will not be able to work and transfer to the reserve lee in conditions when the load in ukraine as a whole is impossible . this house or neighborhood is simply impossible, well , only one thing can be done for justice to unlock the neighboring street that works from another transformer, but this is, accordingly, not a way out , returning to points e-e about educational institutions e-e such points should be located evenly in the microdistricts of the settlements of the educational institution, which are precisely located e-e evenly so that there is no and a large crowd of people and the second point is the

employees who are responsible for the functioning of these points - these are the same people who have the same families who also sit without heat and there is a rotation order in them and or tent or stationary points because there must always be someone there. when people come there and just recharge or just warm up for 2-3 hours or drink hot tea there. are you interested in working ? well, let's talk, actually, many cafes, er, now people work there, er, restaurants, bars, you can even see on the price tags a certain surcharge for the fact that the generator works in our place, another question, er, on which we are currently working in the association of cities of ukraine and together with central

by the authorities, will there be enough heating for such a system? i mean fuel, because when the light is turned off, such points operate from generators, and this is also a huge task, we directly this is an extraordinary measure. i want to pay attention to this. the main task is to protect this infrastructure and work on its rapid recovery. preparedness for rapid recovery . risk assessment. it seems and a missile attack took place, they need two hours there, 4 hours to repair, well, this is absolutely not the case, you need to understand, what equipment, what couplings , what pipes, what transformer, this is what you are showing on the air right now, it is exactly uhm, tent-type eh tin

cannon a-a daz yes communication e-e we were even approached by individual municipalities e with a request e well such a short list to provide what should be in this respective item as a priority e-e so that they could be able to ensure that, mr. oleksandr, this is roughly understood everyone is there by the way very briefly, if possible, all of them are now uh, some kind of allocations that go to all those things to ensure these needs, not to deploy these points , and so on and so on, and so on american grants, how do they even get to local communities, which are distributed, that everything is understood there and i will speak frankly, first of all, these are the funds of local budgets,

these are the funds of the territorial community, there is, of course, separate support with special equipment from at the state level, why did i do it and always thank you, always made an accent thank you dsns there are huge grant programs, you correctly drew attention to this, they relate primarily to what kind of help is it with generators, but you understand that no grant program it will not buy fuel on a daily basis and will not pay the salaries of those employees who are supposed to ensure the operation of these points and not inviolability , anyway, these will be funds from the local budget, we talked about the fact that the state budget for the next year is provided for from the reserve fund about 20 billion hryvnias, which will be used both for

equipment and for the financing of repair and emergency works, including emergency works. i hope that they will also go to the financing of these items with steadfastness in the in a critical situation, but now, in addition to other strategic things, we are working on the purchase of so-called mobile boiler houses, on receiving help from international partners regarding generators, and on the formation of fuel reserves. please pay attention to these things. for which we will need huge funds for all of us uh, it should be like this conversation oleksandr slobozhan , executive director of the association of cities of ukraine, was the foreign language and thank you for being with us, and the russians, uh, they don't thank you, they are crying and bursting into tears

because what is over in russia, they have problems now, by the way the auto industry started very seriously , we already showed how their corners give out ice to mobilized families, er, well, they are probably stored there for a long time, well, less, but we learned from kursk how we can even show you there to the families of soldiers who have already died local the government distributes such comforting gifts to the wife, they will say that it is impossible to put, i will say briefly here, this is a set of three towels and this and a cake section, the cake was wiped with a towel and cried bitterly again the end of our part of the marathon with andriy seichuk thank you for being with us iryna koval news next