er, it is obvious that er, due to the attempt to reach these frontiers, the russians only worsened the situation for themselves in many directions and suffered significantly greater losses than they could have suffered if they had been more adaptive, this is the fundamental point in fact and is the most original and to be honest, i don’t think that the russians can change it, it contradicts the general natural today not only er and philosophy not only of the military er of their er for well, not only the military but also the political system as a whole, i.e. they have a very high concentration and centralization inherent in them and in the higher echelons, and then this also leads to the fact that there is no trust in well, this is not only a story about the initiative, that is, here is the whole

set of classic moments, for example, this syndrome a messenger yes, that is, a person who brings news, that is, there is a tendency not to bring bad news. that is, it leads to the fact that russian leaders very often do not receive objective intelligence information and generally reports from their subordinates. whatever they highlighted the negative aspects, yes, that is, there is a tendency to improve their reports, assessments of the situation, and so on, and of course, these things are combined. the tasks of the russian commanders. very often they simply accept it and carry it out, although they understand that in reality there will be no prospects for the implementation of this. it is difficult to imagine that such a thing would happen in

ukraine. that is, in ukraine, of course, officers who are responsible for their units and they do not agree with the order, they see in them, er, some miscalculations, they necessarily talk about this even to their highest commanders, and of course it is appropriate that the russians are vulnerable to measures of strategic camouflage, misleading, why because on the one hand they are very capable of conducting such events themselves, but strangely enough, they are probably due to the fact that they have never considered, at least, ukrainians as their equals . which would be aimed not at deceiving the enemy, but at uncovering just such attempts by the

enemy. that is, this is also a very important point, and mr. oleksandr, there are probably three of the most important such shortcomings. thank you for these explanations . for your time and for your comments, and i would like to remind our viewers that oleksandr danyliuk, a military analyst, head of the defense reform center and one of the co-authors of the british institute's e-e study, was on the espresso channel under the name of the previous lessons of combat operations after the russian invasion of ukraine, and now we have vyacheslav tsiluyko, a serviceman of the special operations forces of the armed forces of ukraine, pyaslav, i would like to see you, we have previously discussed this research, are there any interesting and important things which would you single out in this work and

which are important in order to understand the challenges facing the ukrainian army in view of the potential possibility of transformation of the russian army not in the context of the weak points that the russians currently have if they are to be corrected then, of course, there will be certain threats, but in general, what is your assessment of this situation? well, first of all, we see that the russians have decided that without mobilization they cannot effectively conduct combat operations on the territory of ukraine. and regiments, that is, the best personnel, the best equipment, it was transferred to one or two battalions, and those remnants that remained in the brigade or in the regiment were no longer capable of combat, in the best case, they could make up

for the losses with a certain film, so i understood that if this the concept does not work, the russians still decided to go to mobilization, that is, they are trying to deploy full-fledged information, that is, the spiders of the brigade, but here it is another problem for them - it is already a lack of at least modern, but at least such that can be used weapons techniques because the equipment that is removed from the storage bases there may not have sights and so on. and so on. that is, now that the russians have realized that the bet on btgry has lost, they should move to full-fledged formations. they are already facing other problems, this is equipment and this is human potential.

we understand that it is not enough to catch people on the streets of those idiots, they need to be armed, they need to be trained and fed, they need to be managed, and the junior team, the middle team, this is, well, let's say it is an incomplete side of the russian federation, which has already been said, so the russians have a certain understanding that something went wrong but they don't have the ability to quickly correct the situation in that direction in terms of intelligence, well, at least we see a more active use of the same civilian quadcopters by the russians. that is, this is what at the beginning, the russians ignored it and hoped that there would be enough croatians for all occasions, and then it turned out that there are not enough other

reconnaissance drones, and mass and mass are needed not only at the operational-tactical level, but also at the tactical level. and here we see with their own eyes that the russians wanted to adopt the ukrainian experience and more actively use the same quadcopters for reconnaissance and even try to inflict damage on them from the other side and countermeasures from the ukrainian side they that's why the russians are improving here, too, in a certain way , they don't keep up with the trend, that's why they somehow graze the rear well, vyacheslav, it's an interesting point, and this study also mentions how long drones live on the battlefield, and it actually says that the ukrainian army in a certain period in the first there for three weeks it lost 90% of drones that were in combat formations, i actually knew this number, that is, i was

silent, but in fact, when it is now made public , it shows what demand there is today for restoring those losses that were made in the first days of the war, and on the other hand, it is also stated that, relatively speaking, a quadcopter lives on the battlefield for three flights, yes, that is, a drone that has a standard scheme there for six flights, yes, that is, in fact, this means that the need is colossal, the same applies to other types of weapons, none of the conclusions concerns that it is necessary to switch to mass production of cheaper samples of weapons, every country should have the opportunity to reproduce certain samples, it is known that they are from the conclusions of this study, as it is now, on on the battlefield, the situation with the same drones in your units, is there a shortage, and what other conclusions can be drawn there through the prism of your own tactical combat experience, let’s say yes, indeed, drones are quite vulnerable

, especially if we are talking about cheap commercial models, but now, maybe the hottest ones in the areas of the front there in the area of ​​bakhmut soledar, drones live three sorties, our experience, the experience of our other units says much more. well, for example, during the kharkiv literal operation, we lost one quadcopter on the first day, and at the same time, about a hundred sorties were made, i.e. 300c, so significantly different indicators , therefore, despite the fact that these tools are indeed vulnerable, they still have a much longer lifespan well, at least if the operators are first of all experienced, on the other hand, if the quadcopter somehow fell there and it is still possible to get

it, they get it, that is, again, the same kharkiv offensive operation, we lost one quadcopter and somewhere, uh, eight were retrieved from the gray zone because they didn't fly, but we couldn't afford these losses as irreversible, so they were pulled out. so here everything depends on the technical situation of the front section. that is, you can get it, you can't get it. here everything is quite individual and cool - the experience has become absolutely absolutely again the role of artillery is singled out and it is written that kyiv itself was saved only by two artillery brigades that did not allow the enemy to kyiv, which were actually near kyiv, the enemy was just talked out of it, then

it is said that after three months ukraine ran out of ammunition and this just allowed the enemy to start active offensive actions in the donbas and actually secure these conditional victories on the e-e from north donetsk and lysychansk and now it is written there again about the fact that if such intensive actions had not been carried out by germany in particular, there would not have been supplies there for only three days to withstand such an influx that the russian federation is currently carrying out on the front line, or is there already a certain parity in artillery somehow feels that we can compensate for the traditional advantage in the number of artillery, which was usual for the russian army in the first stages of combat operations, it seems to me that it is still too early, but also the trends that we see that the russians are really running out of ammunition, they are already forced to save it somehow

that is, we see that in the hottest areas , for example, the same bakhmut again, the russians actively use artillery there, not counting shells, but this is ensured by the fact that in other areas they provide the necessary the number of munitions in the direction of the main strike , therefore, it can be said that now the russian federation is also approaching, at least in terms of a separate nomenclature of munitions, to the point that the soviet reserves left as its inheritance are beginning to run out and they can only use those munitions that are now produced by the military - the industrial complex, i.e. the supply of passports from wheels or the ammunition that can be bought around the world, north korea, iran, and so on, that is, this russian tactic pays to dump dozens

thousands of shells per day to ensure the advance of their infantry, it has the flip side for the russians that the ammunition starts to run out and here they can find themselves in a situation that and what to do next , that is, if all the tactics were based on the use of massive artillery fire, then how to fight when there are no more shells well, now they are trying to compensate for the lack of artillery at the expense of aviation research russia and it is said that for the first time there in a month at least 100 of the most trained russian pilots were destroyed. this affected the morale of the russian aviation, the impossibility of restoring the quality of personnel, and then what question and how are the dynamics today, is there , relatively speaking, in the area of ​​the front where you are , the use of enemy aircraft, what types and how is the enemy trying to act using this

very aviation component of the military confrontation , yes, the enemy uses aviation, including that we do not allow in a certain way to compensate for the lack of artillery in certain areas of the front, because aviation is used for such a certain the reserve is even at the tactical level, if we are talking about the direct air support of the troops, the tactics of the russians are in principle standard - these are strikes with unguided missiles from the camber, this tactic allows, let's say, to ensure the maximum safety of the aircraft, helicopter and crew but the effectiveness of such strikes is enough juice, that is, russian pilots are here. they are trying to save their lives with technology, to reduce their risks due to the effectiveness of aviatrics,

nevertheless, they miss such strikes and, um, not requires certain adequate tactics of countermeasures and regarding the conclusion of this london institute of joint forces regarding the army of the alliance to create its own defense industry to bet on increasing the number of stocks to use copters to use fish systems to bet on a high-precision weapons system to ensure changes in the management system there to ensure spraying on the battlefield in order to contain the enemy's blows, these are the approaches that russian specialists are now trying to convey to nato countries as quickly as they can to be integrated, when the armies will be more adequate from the point of view of defense construction, according to your estimates, i would like to address this question, but if we position ourselves from the point of view of the armies of the nato countries

from a different angle, it seems to me that ato countries should not to solve these problems and now to provide ukraine with enough modern weapons to finally solve the issue of the russian threat with the hands of ukraine, that is, now for the country there is such a unique situation that, in principle, the threat for which this bloc exists exists, it works with our hands, that is over the years of the ukrainian military, it has been decreasing, and if the ukrainian armed forces are provided with enough modern weapons, then the problem of the threat from russia will be finally solved, that is, russia will be demilitarized and de-natified. perhaps certain buffer zones will be created there and, in principle, this threat will no longer be relevant. therefore,

now for of europeans it is rather a more urgent task to provide ukraine with weapons so that ukraine simply defeats the russian federation and on this issue the threat from russia is closed, well at least if not forever, but for a very long period of time, ms. vyacheslav. thank you for including in such a tense period for you personally and our players. with the aggressor . and now we have vitaliy not merciful , the head of the all-ukrainian association of employers of machine builders of ukraine and the head of low-level defense enterprises in ukraine, mr. vitaly. i congratulate you. i congratulate you. this is part of our program. devoted to the fact that we are evaluating a british study that says how nato countries

can now prepare for war, taking into account the ukrainian experience, and here and there on every page of this study it is said that it is necessary to have a proper defense-industrial complex, a significant amount of artillery, a significant amount of ammunition and on for this, we immediately mention our possibilities in these conditions, uh, for the munitions field, we have uh, several ministries were responsible, we adopted a program for the creation of an munitions industry or industry and now, in a few days, a decision will be made to eliminate the minister of technology, who was one of the people responsible for these programs. for this, how can we now provide a solution to this urgent need for the creation of ammunition, and what measures can speed it up against the background of these organizational changes that are currently taking place in the ukrainian government , you know i believe that if the ministry responsible for industrial policy is again liquidated in our country, then we will postpone the issue

of organizing the production of our own weapons for another eight years. military equipment and other weapons we already had four times when the ministry of the central government was liquidated and they said that it was not needed in order to save money, but i want all citizens of ukraine to understand that the issue is about approximately 5 million e-e dollars per year for decades, the amount for receiving the ministry and its absence and its ability to develop an industrial policy to implement an industrial policy costs the country well billions of dollars. for example, if there is a question, what do we something needs to be done to save money, so let's better liquidate ukroboronprom, which takes money from state-owned enterprises for the development of these enterprises. as

for your specific question, i am informing you and everyone that this is the first time, maybe not the first time. well, i first came under consideration of the government in 2008 program for the development of the munitions industry then there was a question about the need for the urgent production of ammunition caliber 12.7 14.5 mm 23 and 30 mm and when this issue was almost resolved, they took and liquidated the ministry of industry politicians and all the military understand what it really means when we don't have these munitions . and the previous speaker says well, let the western countries provide us, and here the question is. well , first of all, they must have something to provide us a war of such intensity as now has already led to the fact that many countries have nothing else to offer, they must be willing to hand over their

own weapons to us, and it does not always coincide with the interests of the military personnel of those countries, so it is urgently necessary instead to indicate what the ministry of industry must be abolished, it must be strengthened, its functions must be developed. europe, for example, now and the united states have approved strategic documents at the level of legislation regarding the development of their own industry , for example, i can show anyone who wants to go to the internet and open the document european transformation of industry, vision and e it is said here that industry should play a key role in the development of europe for the next decades. in europe, there is a european commissioner for industrial development, that's why i'll interrupt a little because you talk about a really important topic, but when we

talk about our country, ukroboronprom says that i started producing 152 mm ammunition there, everyone there rejoiced, but as a matter of fact, we understand that in fact this is not mass production, but point production there dozens of ammunition who would start walking around on the internet, how can it really be possible to resume the production of ammunition to normal series , connect all the possibilities of the domestic industry, and this is not within the competence ukroboronprom, we have tens of thousands of enterprises could, in cooperation, engage in the production of various types of weapons, ammunition, military equipment, but they are not involved in this process, their leaders are trying to get involved in different ways, they want to help, some even on a free basis, some for money, but they can't do it because ukroboronprom is an organization that manages 35,000 enterprises there and all and another 5,000 enterprises are not involved in this

process and this is exactly the task of the ministry if it complex system was being solved, then we would not say that we are producing a few dozen or a few hundred there or a few thousand or millions produced ammunition and provided our military with the necessary amount, but this is within the competence of the central executive body, which is called the ministry, to add that in the event of the liquidation of the minister of technology, the organization of state programs if the missile industry of the ammunition sphere, it will be suspended again and again we will talk about what we need ammunition, but in fact we will look for them around the world and not on our own means, well, that 's how it will be for at least a year or so, who will hand it over, to whom it will be handed over, who will accept the tasks, and so on and so on. do we have this year or not? and in general, i say once again that all wars were won in the rear, in the first world

war and in the second world war, the role of the state increased many times, tens of times, the state defense order was simply a state order, and all this should be organized by the state and state bodies authorities, so now to say that let's destroy the government body that is responsible for the industry of a warring country, but this, in my opinion, is, at least , a misunderstanding of those people who propose it, what they are saying, to say that this is an organizational weapon against us, someone remove the central body the government that should organize the production of military equipment during the war is, in my opinion, to watch, well, in one of our interviews you talked about the fact that you have a vision of how to organize the production of ammunition for ukraine there within a few months relying on interaction with western or european partners, this process is proceeding in parallel

. has it actually become a dead end, considering that now ukroboronprom decides everything and the ministry of defense simply buys ammunition abroad ? issues, we are moving little by little, but here is the issue of the regulation of issues related to the production of weapons in all countries of the world, not only in ukraine, and for the regulation of transfer and transfer issues technologies and cooperation still exist there, a state specialist-expert-control, which must give a certain permission to transfer the drawings there or receive the writing of the contract, and this drags on for months and months, and here the question is again that the system that works in non-military time must be significant it was changed and it was adapted to the wartime . and this should also be done by the central authorities at the level of the ministry, and not by economic entities , which i want kraboronprom to be,

even if it is a state-owned enterprise, even if it is a private one. enterprise, this is a very significant shortcoming in our country now that our national security and defense committee does not deal with it, that our central authorities do not deal with it how to help business entities of all forms of ownership to establish effective cooperation, the main thing is quick cooperation with foreign partners e-e p congratulations thank you for this inclusion, we will repeatedly repeat this topic because there are urgent problems and needs that must be solved as soon as possible. thank you for your time and for your competence to our viewers let me remind you that on the air of the espresso channel vitaliy was the unkind chairman of the all-ukrainian association of employers of machine builders of ukraine and the head of a number of defense-industrial enterprises. so, if we summarize this conversation, we can say that the conclusions of the british institute are indeed interesting and important, but in order to win on the battlefield, we must take into account first of all on their own, they are provided with the armed forces and the defense

industry, which must be lifted from its knees and new conditions must be created for the production and ammunition of other types of weapons that really will be needed on the battlefield today and tomorrow. i spoke with the guests of the wine program. i am serhiy sgorets , the director of the defect express company, which together with the espresso company produces interesting programs related to defense topics, and then olga landi will continue the espresso channel with her program chronicling the information war, we are looking for nine-year-old anastasia mihno, nothing has been known about the fate of this girl for about seven months . unfortunately, the details of the route of the disappearance are also a lie. i only know that the child lived in the city of luhansk lysychansk, it is likely that nastya was there with her mother, contact with them was cut off at the end of april, in july the city was completely

under the control of the occupiers, did the family manage to leave somewhere or are they still there ? i don't know why, so i'm asking especially the residents of lysychansk, who may be seeing me on social networks now, look carefully at anastasia's photo, she has light blond hair and dark eyes, the girl looks maybe a little older than her 9 years if has anyone suddenly seen her or knows where she might be now, don't delay, call us on the magnolia children's search hotline at the short number 116,000 calls from any mobile operator are free or write to the chatbot of the children's search service in telegram, i have another story of disappearance a child in the luhansk region, attention to the photo. this is five-year-old victoria mokrushyna, whose fate has been unknown for more than six months. i know that the last time the girl was contacted was on

may 7, the child was in the village of belogorivka - this is the severodonetsk district of the luhansk region, fierce fighting took place at that time, but now this territory is already deoccupied, the soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine released a white girl in september, but nothing is known about the fate of this girl, so i am asking especially the residents of the severodonetsk district of the luhansk region to look carefully at the photo of the girl, she has dark hair, her eyes look like this victoria at the age of five, if anyone suddenly saw her and knows where she might be now, do not hesitate to call us on the magnolia children's search hotline at the short number 116 000 from any mobile phone the operator was free of charge, the territory was released, the city is returning to more or less normal life , communication is being restored, but there is no news about the missing child, unfortunately, there are no similar stories at all, so i want to tell you again about the seventeen-year-old elizaveta alyoshina, who disappeared. and 6

months ago, the girl lived before the war in kropyvnytskyi, but for the duration of distance learning she moved to live with her grandmother in the city of liman, this is kramatorsk district of donetsk region, for the first two months it was more or less calm there and elizaveta even regularly joined online broadcasts for training, the last time she got in touch was on april 25, and it was on this day that she told very disturbing news, she said that enemy shells started flying over their house, she was very scared, and the very next day she lost contact with the girl and to this day there is no news from her. lyman was occupied for several months and there was an active jamming of communication there. i really hoped that this was why elizaveta could not call or write to anyone. but when the city was liberated