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it seems like three months ago, but this is all about a certain jealousy of the authorities towards the initiative of the opposition deputies, of course, nothing prevents us from considering the draft law submitted by my colleagues, but you know that it does not matter to me personally who is the author of the draft law here, the main thing is that the process goes on. the main thing is what, uh, now already the nsdc and president zelensky are finally starting to support the rhetoric that we have been pumping out there for the past several years. that is, better late than never. therefore, i really hope that everything that was said and done for the last two weeks will not be just words, but will turn into concrete legal actions, and i really hope that from next year we will finally say goodbye to such a phenomenon as the church of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine, and all the
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parishes and parishioners will be able to use the normal canonical orthodox church of ukraine recognized by constantinople this is an extremely important point - this is an extremely important but different story, finally, mr. andrii, we would like to ask you. what about the mandates of the opz of worms. for example, lyovochkina's sister, people's deputy yuriy lyovochkina seems to have written a mandate about what is happening with the whole matter and whether some so- called legal decision is imminent, well, various voices assure us that the parliament has already come close to what, without a doubt, is a historic decision, ms. lyubochka, but it is not as if she wrote a statement for which was voted by the verkhovna rada of ukraine yesterday, therefore ms. lyobochkina is no longer a deputy of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, which is probably good for other representatives of the ukrainian national assembly. since march, i have been insisting that the
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central election commission should find a way how to remove all mps of the people's party of ukraine from representative mandates at all levels, because they are only about the verkhovna rada of ukraine, we are talking about all local councils, because it cannot be so that the political force that actually directly or indirectly contributed to the war in ukraine had at least some political presence in ukraine this is absurd, the enemies of ukraine have been abusing our democracy for decades , and in fact this continues now in the verkhovna rada. groups and they vote perfectly in unison with the majority and apparently this suits someone. i heard that allegedly yesterday president zelenskyy gave an order and an instruction to stefanchyk to activate this work, this work has actually been going on for a long time, the opposition
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deputies also submitted draft laws and draft resolutions, i understand certain legal complications, but this must be a politician - a legal decision for me, there is no doubt that the deputies who represent the hostile and illegal already banned in ukraine pzh party should leave the premises of the verkhovna rada of ukraine and all the premises of councils throughout ukraine, the sooner it happens, the better for everyone. i really hope that in lviv, under the president and the leadership of the verkhovna rada, there will be enough political strength and will to do this. in our country, it now depends solely on the will of the president and the discretion of the head of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, and finally, mr. andriy, very briefly, the positive things that have been done within the walls of the verkhovna rada for our military personnel on leave. tell me what now from december 1 it was decided on december 1 it was me
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uh the law is changing for our defenders i literally this morning corresponded with my friends my guys who are at the front and explained to them this really good news there everything is very simple uh before the law of leave had to give could only be given according to family circumstances and actually there was a limitation in this, now in fact leave can be granted to any mobilized person by the decision of his leadership of his command. that is, it opens up the possibility of providing periodic periodic rest for our boys and girls, because we perfectly understand how difficult it is there , even in the summer, to be there non-stop for three or four months at the front, and especially now, with the deterioration of weather conditions, it is necessary to give people the opportunity to rest in any work, and even more so in
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such over the difficult work as the current front line and the verkhovna rada when their work in fact, starting in december, the ukrainian military will have the opportunity to have a short-term vacation to meet with relatives, friends, and again to have the opportunity to emotionally recharge the batteries, because everyone understands how difficult it is for boys and girls there . we are doing everything to somehow help them. thank you to you dear mr. people's deputy for this honest conversation on the live air of the espresso tv channel andriy osadchuk, the people's deputy of ukraine, worked with us now, in particular with khrystyna burkovskyi we continue to talk about the plans of the verkhovna rada for the future and the fact that our legislation should continue to be synchronized with the legislation of the
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european union. but sometimes, as we see , there are some different readings regarding the same draft laws, in particular, animal rights activists, for example, call the new draft law 8150, which introduces amendments to the law on animal welfare i would like to note the title of this project in full: the draft law on amendments to certain laws of ukraine on improving the requirements legislation on food products, feed , veterinary medicine and animal welfare, a number of people's deputies speak with the co-authors and initiators of this bill, but the authority on the human rights organization.ua notes that this is really a brutal story that returns to our legislation those things from which we just recently distanced themselves from one of these norms , it’s as if you know the return to the production of foie gras in ukraine, or the killing of animals before
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their hearts stop beating. all this is so sensitive stories, but again, it is important not to forget that sensitive stories can sometimes be successfully manipulated. we asked danylo pavlychenko , a legal expert, to help us understand this issue. danylo, we congratulate you. glory to ukraine glory to the heroes. what did the human rights defenders actually panic about? of course, as you rightly said, society is now very consolidated and very sensitive, there are some things that are difficult to understand due to their legal constructions, there are things which each of us intuitively supports, in particular, this is the treatment of animals, and the safety of life is to really
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be spent. regarding the ban on the production of foie gras, this is article 21 of the law on the protection of animals from cruelty , which stipulates that it is forbidden to make foie gras, it is forbidden to remove the skin , to kill animals before they are deprived consciousness, that is, these are the things that are not very pleasant to say, but which are actually related to each of us, because if a person does not even eat meat, but eats, for example, he is only afraid, he still has a tangential relationship with the agricultural industry that produces these food products and you and i understand that there would even be fish due to the introduction of chickens for the production of eggs, this is not some kind of pleasant entertainment and animals in this case do not always feel comfortable, but the draft law 81 50, which was planned for consideration, was absolutely not intended for any deterioration of the condition of animals. that is, it is a clear
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regulation of the european rules on the management of the economy on the breeding of these animals, compliance with the requirements for their maintenance, the rules for the slaughter of these animals, the rules for the transfer of meat or production products after them, and it had no relation to the deterioration of their condition, the question is only was that we had a legal conflict because the basic law on the protection of animals and cruelty provides that an employee of the national police can draw up a report on of a business entity or a natural person if he sees that she treats the animal in an inappropriate way, i.e. causes some bodily harm or other illegal actions, but if we are talking about agricultural production, we all understand that these are large companies and large enterprises where are thousands of animals, where is the area closed, where are the guards, and just to get there to
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check the condition of the animals, a police officer will not be able to. similarly, with regard to public inspectors , this topic is particularly relevant for public organizations e-e in the 21st year it was provided that public environmental inspectors can also supervise the observance of the rights of wild animals and in the event that they see a violation of the rights of such animals by some physical person and injuries, they can also draw up protocols, but they again still did not have access to agricultural enterprises, an agricultural enterprise is an economic activity that in this direction is regulated by the state production and consumer service and an inspector in order to get to the enterprise to check its condition animals, check compliance with regulations, that they have proper nutrition, lighting, space for movement, everything else must have a legal basis , because in our country, state bodies cannot simply come and enter any enterprise at their own discretion. there must be a clearly written procedure. why did he come there with what inspection of planned
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and unscheduled what stages of production can he check, all this was regulated by the draft law 81:50, which repealed and changed the law on veterinary medicine 12:06 in this way, additional regulation of the industry and a clear understanding in in what way can an agrarian farmer raise an animal, how should he take care of it, what should he do if the animal is sick, how should he isolate, call a veterinarian to provide assistance, other nuances, and we had a certain legal conflict because, on the one hand, we had a general law on protection animals of very temporary origin, on which the police officers could draw up a protocol, on the other hand, we had a law on veterinary medicine, which already provides for specific control over economic entities we all know that according to ukrainian legislation , a person cannot be prosecuted twice for the same offense, that is why the question was, under
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which law to prosecute, what fine was issued because, for example, the fine for ill-treatment ranges from uah 3,400 to uah 5,000 according to the law on veterinary medicine, the fine is from 35 to 50,000 uah, that is, well, for the defenders, on the contrary, it should be a plus in that the economic entity to pay 3,000 uah for him is not money, even for a small farmer to pay 50 at the same time. uhu let's try now, er, well, somehow to summarize, that is, there are no life-threatening norms in the draft law that we are talking about, but at the same time, we have certain moments when the draft law in specific places may somewhat conflict with other legislative norms in our country absolutely true, it is more logical then to bring them
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up to the appropriate level so that this conflict does not arise or to finalize this draft law so that no one has any questions, look at a simple example, i will explain, uh, in our law on veterinary medicine, there are clear rules that the animal must be provided with proper conditions and have access to food. it must be fed naturally. this all implies a ban on game because foie gras is produced in an unnatural way, that is, a duck and a goose are fed food against its will. - game cannot be fed with screws , cannot be fed with rubber and list all these nuances, but why do we do this if we have a generally understood norm that everything should happen in accordance with the natural needs of animals. thus well, finally, i would like to clarify whether your human rights
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environment sometimes considers such a point as, for example, the protection of animals from those who love them excessively, in the literal sense, we understand that there is a category of people, so to speak , who can collect 12-15-20 30 or how many cats are the same, so they are in a small room in a small apartment and so on, they begin to collect them , and we understand that it is extremely difficult to take any legal actions in practice, yes, and accordingly, we understand that it is unlikely that they can provide appropriate support to those animals. i think that if we had such changes, then we would really have more disputes. the case of defenders 81:50 absolutely did not go into the field of treatment of pets with homeless animals. that there is an exclusion of certain trades in the law on the protection of animals, how are they deprived of these rights, they were not deprived of these rights, they were simply
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regulated by another law 12:06 it's just difficult to understand because the draft law is 180 pages, you understand why sometimes people make emotional decisions, we hope that it was not with malicious intent, but simply because people emotionally reacted to certain norms of public organizations there and did not fully understand it, in fact, it is quite broad, that is why we took this topic into consideration in general ether because you may not be fully aware of the nuances of this topic, but people are asking and asking for specific answers to specific questions. did you notice that this bill 8150 applies exclusively to the agrarian segment, nevertheless, uh, again this is the thesis. human rights activists say that this draft law allows the mass killing of homeless animals as an example. i explain that article 17 of the law of ukraine on the protection of animals from cruelty gives an exhaustive list of cases in which the
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killing of animals is allowed and for the depopulation of mass killing to regulate the number of animals in this no that is, it is prohibited, and the authors of this draft law propose to make amendments according to which the provisions of article 17 will not apply only to the killing of farm animals but also about depopulation measures, for example, i didn’t understand anything. the first part of the article remains unchanged , that is, mass murders because of what activists of homeless animals experienced there by means of a tour or something else. depopulation measures are prohibited in our country right now. this definition is at the sub-legal level. attention, when some kind of epidemic may happen, it is said, for example , that people are threatened, then decisions can be made, again, by the dps in certain regions. what , for example, is there a certain type of animal that can be the carrier of this rabies may somehow be
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destroyed there, but the first part remains unchanged , that is, no one planned to allow the killing of homeless animals, that is, exclusively with dogs, what to do, that is, how could this be regulated at the legislative level, i am not saying this because i do not i love dogs in particular and stray dogs, but they very often pose a direct threat to people, they are very often aggressive, and see if you take a general approach to a large number of homeless animals er, including through the brain, where is the control so that they do not spread some kind of infectious mass diseases, that is, if there is an outbreak, fixing the outbreak in some place of the spread of the disease, they take measures about them on the other hand, the local authorities, as far as i know, get involved, they tame these animals and hang them they have small keychains on their ears . i think you have seen that they often try to keep track of them on their ears. it doesn't remove the threat, so to speak, in the event of
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something. the question is more for the environmental committee. that is , you can additionally deal with this issue. 81:50 did not apply to this issue. and the ecology committee got into my parish. thank you for explaining some nuances. and the petition e-e regarding the prevention of the approval of the draft law 81 50, which we just talked about, is currently gaining momentum, obviously people need further explanations why this particular draft law is not evil and why it's just about synchronizing our legislation with the european 180 pages of the law of ukraine, just read it like that, in any case, let's move on. well, there's important news from the kyiv region,
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gostomel, vandals cut down and wanted to steal the graffiti of the world-famous artist banksy. those gentlemen have already been found and are being interrogated by the police, this is him we understand that banks is one of the most expensive modern artists, but the importance of his work is not only in the fact that he really came to ukraine. he works anonymously, that is, usually, almost not some images, in particular his personally and his biography, were not fully understood, but the artist is actually recognized well, the police of the kyiv region in ukrainian pravda confirmed the vandalism, reported that a group of criminals had already been detained, the detainees explained, you understand, well , we can’t check it khrystyna yatskiv, what they allegedly wanted sell the work of art and transfer the money, of course, to the needs of the armed forces. well , the police clarified an important point that the responsibility for the preservation and protection of such cultural objects rests with the local authorities, but you can
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to imagine dear tv viewers, and those khrystynas, well , if they really destroyed or stole, this would be the situation when his graffiti was painted over there with various , so to speak, inappropriate elements, in any case, this itself caused an extremely big scandal in the west in particular and not only in ukraine, and accordingly, it would be worthwhile to take these works of art under real protection or somehow ensure that they exist, because, well, banksy is not just a dude who paints a-a masterpieces of modern art that he left in in ukraine, they are already under appropriate protection, i know that there are activists, the local authorities take care of such stories, for example, in borodyanka. but at the same time, it is probably necessary to explain to people that banksy , although an artist and anonymous, is very careful about the fate of those objects that are left in
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other places and if his work is stolen or in some way defamed, at least i read that in this way it can disappear from the official catalog and if the author himself removes from it artistic, cultural, financial, including value, well, an extremely scandalous story, on the other hand, we understand if the attackers were able to dismantle the graffiti with the help of their appropriate tools. well, why not do the same thing with the ministry of culture, for example, and move it , so to speak, to the appropriate museum? i don’t know if there is no place in kyiv so that it can be done but i think that it is possible to communicate. thank god there is such an opportunity and there are entire communities of connoisseurs of banksy's work who communicate such and such stories. well, we are moving on, time to return to
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of military analytics valery ryabikh, military expert de fen-express is in touch with us p valery, we congratulate you glory to ukraine, we are preparing a speech i congratulate you, let's definitely start by outlining the situation in the hottest spots, bakhmut, our defenders are signaling that what is now in fact, the intensity of passions is now at its maximum there and the enemy is pressing and our group is powerful there and is holding back the enemy has advanced, the enemy is trying to change tactics and there are partial successes if we are talking about the south direction from bakhmut as in the near future to your i think the situation in the bakhmut area will be resolved or at least the situation will continue, well, in spite of all the heat around bakhmut, the
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situation is currently under control, and judging by the reports that come from official sources in the form of the general headquarters yes and eh from eh let's say so those who are watching this social networks, including from the enemy, at the moment the situation in this area is stabilized in principle, although it eh remains quite difficult and in essence the matter is eh for individual eh according to separate information currently, the grouping of the armed forces of ukraine, which operates in this direction, has been reinforced, and in fact, the situation is stabilizing, and the powerful concentration that was carried out by the enemy in this direction, and according to various estimates , it is estimated that the operative is right in the oglu
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area, for me there day, and in the area of bakhmut, they have concentrated up to 40 battalion tactical groups, currently the enemy is only increasing the number of lost troops with this concentration, and we can see this from the daily reports of the general headquarters, today is another addition to the list of occupiers killed occupiers destroyed on ukrainian soil , and the majority - it's a few hundred - was just added by the occupiers who are trying to storm bakhmut, and in fact, the situation is currently a stalemate for the occupiers, and that's about it. by the way, the analysts of the institute for the study of war are also being told that there is no
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point in fighting for bakhmut on the part of the enemy at all, and that he is once again stepping on the same rake that he stepped on when he attacked lysychansk and severodonetsk. valeria, they wanted to ask you about nasansi, this is how a signal appeared from the united states addressed to the countries of the near-middle east that they should find an opportunity to lead us to ukraine. there are no unnecessary or redundant or any free systems on sams. do you think it will be possible to check something like this? well, we, for the fact that, in particular, this week it was announced that patagon was spending another tranche of military
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aid in the form of more than 1.2 billion dollars. six e-e sets that should be delivered within the next three years, but e-e in the company e-e rating that i am a manufacturer of one of the manufacturers of these systems is currently conducting e-e work with e-e clients who have currently e-e received or are in the process of obtaining new systems for sanctions, in particular , the company talked about the fact that some customers are making some progress in the matter of giving up these systems to the armed forces of ukraine and, in essence, postponing e-e receiving the final of these systems as the company has
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put er and let's say so that they enter ukraine as soon as possible valeria here as soon as possible, unfortunately, it will not be possible , the timing is set as an approximate 3.6 months, and we understand that we need to do something already well, accordingly, we would like to ask you about the prospects of massive missile strikes by the russian federation, we understand that as it turned out , they already have certain missile capabilities. we don't know for sure . did they manage to resume missile production or is it possible? they still have quite large reserves. what do you say about this ? currently there is a sufficiently high degree of threat and we know that currently a large number of strategic
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bombers of the aggressor country are concentrated at the airfield in the city of engelsa, from which strategic bombers usually take off to strike ukraine, and powerful activity is still noted there er, considering this, we should be ready to er continue the practice of launching missile strikes, however, in the essence of the matter, the adversaries are currently experiencing their own difficulties in particular, with the evaluation of, let's say, ukraine's countermeasures, and the fact that we saw several alarms this week already with the summer of the bomber aviation of the aviation in belarus, this may also indicate that we are currently preparing against them by studying the reaction of our air defense system and in fact, in order to correct these strikes, and in fact, we can
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say that, at the moment, the enemy is becoming more er, such that he is calculating his forces, because, in fact, his stock of missiles is running out and on against the background of the fact that the effectiveness of our air defense system is increasing, it increased from 10-12% in march to 80% at the moment in november, so the effectiveness of those strikes is becoming less and less, let's say, favorable operatives, and the achievement of its goals right away the question of the massiveness of the disposable for well, and the question of the number of air defense systems we have, because for now, so to speak, our existing systems will knock down what is flying, the second wave may arrive and it can already
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be more destructive, that's why and on sams, that's why and about the patriot borkovsky and i dream so . thank you. restored by 75%. this was announced by the chairman ova yaroslav yanushevich, 75% of kherson with light as of this hour, electricity supply has been restored for more than 100,000 household consumers. this stabilized the situation in the energy system, which was very badly damaged during the last missile strike, yes, the news is really good . well, there is one more message.
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