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their key positions and are therefore forced to determine priority places for the concentration of forces. units that were based in the local police station of one of the educational institutions, and the occupation troops in the labor and engineering department have already left there they leave the houses where they lived and take away the stolen property from there, the general staff claims. i will remind you that earlier there was also information that the russian army was evacuating the maternity hospital to mariupol in burchak. the occupation administration is conducting a census for the so-called voluntary evacuation of the population - this is also data from the general staff. according to melitopol mayor ivan fedorov, there is no talk of retreating from the zaporizhzhia region yet , he says, for example, according to his data , their number, on the contrary, has increased there, in particular in melitopol district and talk about withdrawal from

individual settlements, quoting fedorov, it is too early . well, directly to melitopol, according to the mayor's information, it is completely blocked by russian troops . what is happening in the occupied regions of zaporizhia ? we will talk further. oleg buryak joins the air. good evening good evening i can hear you i can already hear you and even see you let me immediately clarify the information from the general staff because the difference is the day before, she stated that russian troops were withdrawing from the occupied areas of the zaporizhzhia region. well, today the mar of melitopol says that this is not true . the occupiers are definitely not leaving us any settlements.

well, for example, podoliv is a very key such a key place. if we take it, then we have a way to berdyansk, and berdya is already mariupol, and a way to takmak is also opened. so, if we take the next er point - this is melitopol, and melitopol is such a key er for the capture of crimea and control of the entire er until the entire southern route from there to the crimea to odesa , so er if we are giving birth. this will be the first step , uh, which will be as much as possible to develop our us , so you can't say that the occupier is leaving

because he also understands these actions, he is accumulating strength and he is concentrating on those objects and cities that are key in the defense of the occupied territory of the zaporizhzhia region, they said that there are signs that they are grouping together, but what kind of units are these so-called kadyrivets, are they wagnerites, or are they mobilized in the occupied areas of the donetsk luhansk region, what do you know about this? these are ordinary troops. they are mobilized and they are taking them out one at a time. they bring out those who have been there for some time in this place and start another, they also accumulate in such a place as

melitopol and mak vasylivka, they accumulate strength so that they understand that we will prepare an offensive and they accumulate these forces in these cities. cities are the key. and what is happening there with the local population, uh, what kind of information do you get from there, under what conditions do the local population stay there, and there is very little left? also, the occupiers do not allow the local population to leave, or special treatment is given only to men because they are from they need to turn them into so-called volunteer battalions and they are trying to push these men who remained in the occupied territories into these volunteer battalions during the entire war , people who were in the

pro-ukrainian wars were constantly leaving the occupied territories through the village of vasylivka. and those who divided the russian peace there , they left for the crimea or russia through rostov . now there are very few people left. they have nowhere to go or others are simply not allowed out of the occupied territories because they need to live some and what to cover the occupier already needs a living city that will serve the needs there, communal needs, food so that the shops worked, well, the entire infrastructure worked, and it seems that the army, the russian army, it will be very difficult in the occupied territories, which will be left without civilians .

february 24, well, how much is that? well, let's count, if the city of melitopol had approximately 146-160,000 inhabitants by 40%, it will be 4.6,424. well, there are approximately 60,000 inhabitants left, and other cities are much smaller. but none the less, berdyansk is probably berdyansk, if i remember, i think it is 70,000 40% of the population is 28,000, and there are still 28,000 people left, did i understand you correctly? there is no way for people to leave there now, if they are even compared to the terrible event that happened there, like when they fired at a car market in the city of zaporizhzhia and a lot of people died there. until this day, thousands to 2,000 people left a

day. and now, in the last day, 69 people left, including 10 children. you understand the difference, in the last week, approximately 800-810 people left and you associate it with the fact that people they are afraid that they will not be allowed to leave, they are not allowed to leave melitopol, there is a pass system in which people who want to try to leave the occupied territories submit an application in which they provide all their personal data and also tell who is in the unoccupied ukrainian territory, relatives or friends, and they have been standing in this queue for more than a month, and that's why, when the queue even reaches them, their

percentage is very low, so low, so that they can leave, that they get this pass, i understand you. tell me please, is there any opposition from the local population in the occupied territories of the zaporizhzhia region, and maybe you know what it is, if so, please elaborate. if there is such information, well, it is the most valid way of proving that they they exist when we see that another collaborator suddenly took off in his car, apparently i was somewhere passing by and something accidentally exploded and we have one traitor and this same one proves that we are constantly working there, our partisans also work when the artillery of the armed forces of ukraine hits in some

bull and it burns so very well, you need to understand that the coordinates of this arrival must be accurate. further, the gunners are working on these data accurately and we are already seeing the result, i understand you. one more question. it concerns the situation at the zaporizhzhia npp, but today the russian edition of meduza cites its sources in the kremlin wrote that russia is allegedly ready to leave the territory of the occupied zaporozhye nuclear power plant in exchange for allegedly uninterrupted

transit of oil and gas through ukraine. i also share with you such a hope that russia can take and leave with the energy gift, but you understand that you have to remind him of such and such an argument for bargaining for something bigger. i don’t i understand how important it is for e-e in the russian federation. this is the supply of gas and oil to the european union, so um, i don't know. is it possible to leave the nuclear power plant in energodar for oil and gas flows, because it is not possible to test it, the pipelines are working and all the flows are flowing and so it was, i mean. i mean. did you or did you not

receive any information in the last day or so that there are any signs in energodar on the railway station that would indicate that they are really going to leave the station ? you understand as the head of the region that there is a powerful rear for the armed forces, which is waging active military operations in the zaporizhia region, therefore i can only guess or assume from reliable data that i have data that the russian occupiers will give us a nuclear power plant , we do not have such data, i understand we need to take some steps in the direction of melitopol and komaka pelogi, if we are there, plus pelogov, plus, then mak, then, plus molochansk, then a cauldron will be formed in which energodar will be surrounded by ukrainian troops, and then they have

there will be a threat of being captured and then it is possible that the occupiers will flee because of mykhailovka vasilievka, it is clear that there is no here now, but now they have no reason to take such a powerful object and leave it to us, that's why i understood you only from the facts oleg buryak head of the zaporizhia district state administration of the zaporizhia region was on radio svoboda, thank you. i remind you that svoboda live is broadcast live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on the pages of radio svoboda on the internet. if you are currently watching us on youtube, no forget to subscribe to the channel put likes the more your reactions the more people will know about us well, further on in the program oleksandr lukashenko again spoke about the threat from nato, military analysts admit that in this way, no matter how strange it may sound, lukashenko

resists russian pressure to join belarus is at war, are we really going to talk like that, and the number one topic of the day is that volodymyr zelenskyy instructed to find out to what extent the ukrainian orthodox church is the one that the moscow patriarchate is connected with the russian orthodox church. currently, the security service of ukraine continues to search a number of churches and monasteries of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate. what will be the end of these searches and what may be the future fate of this church in ukraine ? of russia within the framework of this decree, zelensky instructed the cabinet of ministers to develop and submit to the parliament bills on the restriction and prohibition of religious organizations that are controlled from russia, the government

should also check the grounds on which these religious organizations use the property of the national kyiv-pechersk historical cultural reserve, the decision of the nsdc also provides for personal sanctions, but zelenskyi in his address yesterday promised to make public the names of the sanctioned persons later, the nsdc instructed the government to submit for consideration by the supreme the council drafts a bill on the impossibility of the activities of religious organizations affiliated with and with centers of influence in the russian federation in ukraine. to the competence which include issues in the field of ensuring national security, intensifying measures to detect and counter the subversive activities of russian special services in the religious environment of ukraine literally a few hours before this announcement by the president, the correspondent of radio svoboda

, sofia sereda, on the sidelines of the kyiv security forum, asked the secretary of the national security council, oleksiy danilov, about his vision for the future of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine, we showed mom a fragment of this conversation yesterday, but in the light of current events i suggest you listen again, i want to say any institution that will er have the goal of destroying our statehood. it should be banned, or does the institution you are talking about belong to this type? it must be found out, and the deputies have all the powers to do it. well, here it is worth stating that in the last month the security service of ukraine took an active interest in the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, the most notable episode being the searches on the territory of the kyiv-pechersk lavra that took place on november 22 i will briefly

remind you of the background. in february and in the ninth month of a full-scale war, a counterintelligence officer checks whether they work for the kremlin and that's why it's so beautiful video from the kiev-pechersk lavra, the largest ukrainian monastery complex, the sbu regarded such chants as praising the russian peace , opened a criminal case and searched the bridge of the holy assumption lavra of the kyiv-pechersk lavra , pavlo assures that the priest removed the connoisseur of secular songs from the prayer service, because in the lavra they say they pray for ukraine and cite for our army, instead, the religious scholar dmytro gorevoy says that i

received information from outsiders that pavlo is waiting for russian tanks in kyiv and is praying for cyril and he secretly supports the russian federation in every possible way, because there were even quarrels with monks and sponsors, the reputation of the vicar of the lavra is specific and because of a not too monastic lifestyle, fashion weeks, luxury cars, where does the nickname pasha mercedes come from, he also cursed people, said that they would die if they did not leave in one day, three people in addition, she died on the territory of the lavra, the journalist of the investigation was beaten after asking the metropolitan about russian aggression towards ukraine, eh, i will not talk to you. let's tell the priest of the lavra who sang about russia the mother in the sbu has already been declared a suspect, and on the territory of the monastery complex they found literature that i quote for the propaganda of the russian world in seminaries and parish schools, he did not have cash in different currencies, also in one of the heads of dioceses in bukovina they found a passport with a double-headed eagle

, a certificate of a hero of russia for the seizure of crimea, a teacher how priests should behave after a full-scale russian invasion spoiler talk about the oppression of their church in addition, several online publications with reference to sources in the special service published these photos of a 17-year-old a young man from the church choir and the secretary of the chernivtsi-bukovyna diocese of the uoc mp were taken in the latter's room by law enforcement officers, the sbu officially did not comment on the circumstances of this situation , the person involved himself commented on the photos. the lord is the judge of all those who wrote this, despite the incident, the archimandrite is awaiting promotion, he should head the ivano-frankivsk and kolomyia branch of the believers of the uoc mp, because the previous leader is now in the suburbs of moscow serves with patriarch kirill serves already after

the latter blessed russia's attack on ukraine, while the uoc mp officially declares that they do not agree with the position of the moscow patriarch, we disagree with the position of patriarch kirill of moscow and all russia regarding the war in ukraine, changes to the statute on the management of the ukrainian orthodox church the churches testify to the complete independence and independence of the ukrainian orthodox church. the resolution of the ukrainian orthodox church dated may 27, 2022, they say one thing, do another. they talk about the uoc mp. of these searches, e-e, the correspondence of metropolitan meletius, who heads the a-a department of external church relations e-e of the ukrainian orthodox church, he writes in the postscript e-e to e-e postscript of the moscow patriarchate in europe e-e

that we are staying further e-e as a part of the russian orthodox church, the state took up the activities of the uoc very late. how many years has it been in existence? it preached, in principle, ordinary gospel things, er, neatly, absolutely, sprinkling it with such interstices of propaganda, er, of the russian world, as if there is a three- united people, a three-united russia, which cannot be 23 criminal proceedings cannot be separated from which there are already 23 criminal proceedings due to the fact that the head of the sbu has classic agents and barks of fire in cassocks and how these cases will end. and what to do with the same kyiv-pechersk pochaiv and svyatohorsk lavras, the ukrainians gathered the necessary number of votes for a petition to the president with a proposal to return these three monastic complexes to the state balance sheet, and on december 1, the national security council initiated a review of the legality of the uoc mp's stay in the kyiv-pechersk

lavra and instructed the government and deputies to prohibit in in ukraine, the activities of religious organizations with centers of influence in russia well, this morning, the security service of ukraine also began searches. in some churches and monasteries of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate in three regions of zhytomyr, rivne, and transcarpathia , it is noted that searches are being conducted as part of countering the subversive activities of russian special services in ukraine. the security service announced today that they have collected indisputable evidence of the former head of the kirovohrad diocese of the uoc mp in subversive activities against ukraine. suspicion was declared, according to the department, the bishop was part of the immediate circle of the moscow patriarch kirill, with whom he coordinated the spread of pro-kremlin views in the region. the metropolitan security service claims that he was in constant contact with the head of the russian orthodox church and carried out his instructions regarding the justification of russian aggression and the seizure of part of the territory of ukraine, in particular

crimea how can searches in the churches of the ukrainian orthodox church of the ukrainian orthodox church end and are there risks of clashes on religious grounds in ukrainian society? scientists join our broadcast good evening good evening let's talk first about the searches do you have any guesses about who or what became the driver of these processes because before the full-scale war of the uoc mp it seems that neither the authorities nor the security forces were particularly bothered and even after the invasion literally until the fall of 2022. recently, the topic of the cooperation of representatives of the uoc-mp in the occupied territories with russian forces was not particularly covered by the ukrainian security forces, however, in october and november the situation changed radically, what happened? well, i i think that on the day of the events that are currently happening in ukraine, it is clear that this is already a little late

, it should have started, that since the 14th year we know of many cases and collaborations of cooperation with the occupiers, civil society and journalists raised this issue, but they were really ignored of the special services this does not mean that they did not know, they did not know because they were also informed by experts about the fact that the literature of the russian world is filled with them, not church shops , e.e. sermons talked about the language of hatred, which has already become a practical part of this evangelistic activity of the ukrainian orthodox church in unity with the moscow patriarchate, and yet there were no changes. i think that after all, it was not the events of the war and the increase in these cases of open collaboration, in fact

open support of the occupiers, and also clear information came not only from the service of the security of ukraine from our intelligence from other structures and again civil society raised this issue and gradually put the head of our state, the president of ukraine, in front of the fact, and he was forced to turn to specialists, and they actually gave him a complete picture of what the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate actually is, and this in fact stimulated these measures by law enforcement officers, as we call them searches, and seizure of literature and

a large number of facts of such cooperation with our enemy have already been recorded, all this, one way or another, has already become a serious question before the state and before the national security council and before the president of russia. by the way, the state service for ethnopolitics and freedom conduct a religious examination of the statute on the management of the ukrainian orthodox church, they want to find out whether there really are any church-canonical ties with the moscow patriarchate. well, while we are waiting for this examination, i will ask you. how would you describe the current relationship of the uoc mp with by moscow because, for example, the uoc-mp claims every time and now and before that they claim that they are independent from moscow, what do you say? well , first of all, the concept of independence has several

such dimensions: there is legal independence, there is organizational independence and independence canonical church - this is a structure that works in the canonical legal field not only in the field of the legal state of ukraine but also in its canonical space and according to the canons there are several such forms of independence relative to independence or full it is an exarchate - it is autonomy and it is autocephaly a-a ukrainian the orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, it is not an exerkhate, it is not autonomous, and it is not autocephalous, it is not in the diptych a-a, that is, in the list of those canonical orthodox churches that are recognized in this to the orthodox world, such as the orthodox church of ukraine. it is in the diptych, and to declare one's

independence can be simply a matter of lack of such a hybrid form of organization. they said that we are supposedly independent, but we know with you that such independence is not recognized by moscow itself. firstly and secondly, we know that in their charter they wrote that their independence is confirmed by the letter of the second patriarch of moscow in the 90th year, which clearly states that they exist as a canonical structure only as part of the moscow patriarchate and is connected to the world orthodoxy through the moscow patriarchate . that is, they are not in the diptych and they should be part of the world orthodoxy as long as they are actually those who canonically join the moscow

patriarchate, so to say that they have complete independence is that not true and every time after the searches in the churches of the uoc mp in the kremlin, they mention the risks of clashes in ukrainian society, they say on religious grounds. please tell me if you see any risks due to the searches or any other processes that may still be launched since the years of the nsdc, do you see the grounds that there are really risks in talking about something for a long time as a tool of influence if this tool disappears, what remains for them is to create a dangerous situation, we understand that for the bishop herself, it is deadly if they they may take such a step, yes, it is actually to switch to the position of political orthodoxy, now they have a difficult situation, ah, it

is clear. form e-e on behalf of the national security council of the cabinet of ministers of draft laws, in which they must prescribe all the e-e features of limiting their activities, and then it must be accepted by the verkhovna rada, and then they will understand that they will file a lawsuit in court that this is illegal. that is, we will see you again such a long process and this is really for them a space of time that they can use as they like, for example, they can understand that this is final and enter into a dialogue with both the ukrainian state and the orthodox church of ukraine